Guest guest Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Hi, Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic with one patient) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I have been using Simon Mills cream from Principles and Practices for several years with good effect.  J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist ________________________________ To: ukherbal-list Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 9:48:26 AM Subject: Re: Sinusitis  Hi, Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic with one patient) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I use strong Hypericum oil (very carefully) And Gotu cola and Glechoma internally. Sally Owen > I have been using Simon Mills cream from Principles and Practices for several > years with good effect. > J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG > Herbalist > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: ukherbal-list > Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 9:48:26 AM > Subject: Re: Sinusitis > > > Hi, > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with a > tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable sinus > patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + probiotics still not > doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic with one patient) > > Thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Tiger Balm? Lorraine Hodgkinson MNIMH MRCHM HERBS AND HELPERS 6, Butts Fold, Cockermouth, Cumbria, CA13 9HY. UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1900 826392 Mobile: 07761 489838 (O2) www.herbalmedicineuk.com > Hi, > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic with one patient) > > Thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Have you thought about the possible presence of helicobacter in the gut? I am not a herbalist but I do know there is a link between mucus membranes and that helicobacter can be difficult to treat without going down conventional routes. Re: Sinusitis Tiger Balm? Lorraine Hodgkinson MNIMH MRCHM HERBS AND HELPERS 6, Butts Fold, Cockermouth, Cumbria, CA13 9HY. UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1900 826392 Mobile: 07761 489838 (O2) www.herbalmedicineuk.com > Hi, > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with > a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable > sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + > probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic > with one patient) > > Thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 as established a while ago with regard to some other issue I thought this list was for herbalists??!! ( my highlighting in post below) Re: Sinusitis Tiger Balm? Lorraine Hodgkinson MNIMH MRCHM HERBS AND HELPERS 6, Butts Fold, Cockermouth, Cumbria, CA13 9HY. UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1900 826392 Mobile: 07761 489838 (O2) www.herbalmedicineuk.com > Hi, > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with > a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable > sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + > probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic > with one patient) > > Thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 You appear to be more concerned about some sort of members only club than anything else, knowledge is for sharing. I will not respond to your next message. Re: Sinusitis as established a while ago with regard to some other issue I thought this list was for herbalists??!! ( my highlighting in post below) Re: Sinusitis Tiger Balm? Lorraine Hodgkinson MNIMH MRCHM HERBS AND HELPERS 6, Butts Fold, Cockermouth, Cumbria, CA13 9HY. UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1900 826392 Mobile: 07761 489838 (O2) www.herbalmedicineuk.com > Hi, > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with > a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable > sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + > probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic > with one patient) > > Thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 that is not the point - this was set up as a list for qualified herbalists so that we could post freely without having to explain what we do and why to non herbalists - why is there a problem with me querying why someone who says they are not a herbalist is here?? Re: Sinusitis Tiger Balm? Lorraine Hodgkinson MNIMH MRCHM HERBS AND HELPERS 6, Butts Fold, Cockermouth, Cumbria, CA13 9HY. UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1900 826392 Mobile: 07761 489838 (O2) www.herbalmedicineuk.com > Hi, > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with > a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable > sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + > probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic > with one patient) > > Thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 ....especially as a friend of mine [a last-year-herbal-medicine-student] applied to join and she was refused...  Maggie > Hi, > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - with > a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of intractable > sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + > probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic > with one patient) > > Thanks > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 My issue with the original post is as follows Before the link between helicobacter and stomach ulcers/mucous menbrane was established, allowing orthodox medicine to have an alternative method of treating ulcers ,rather than the problematic use of agents to prevent secretion of stomach juices) herbalists had been treating such conditions very effectively, for as long as I have been a herbalist and, I suspect even longer ;-)......), using mucous membrane restoratives and nervines. I feel that the idea that we have to imitate orthodox medicine by eliminating an organism rather than treating the conditions which allow it to proliferate is a major red herring. Sally Owen > ...especially as a friend of mine [a last-year-herbal-medicine-student] applied to join and she was refused... > > Maggie > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - > > with > > > a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of > > intractable > > > sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + > > > probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic > > > with one patient) > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hi All  Don't know why but all the posts with " Sinusitis " in the subject line are ending up in the group spam folder, which is why there have been delays in some of them getting through.  Cheers Graham White, B.Sc. (Herb. Med.) Medical Herbalist -------------------------------- Phone: 01279 305793 Mobile: 07740 766335 www.gcwhite.co.uk > > > >> Hi, > > > > > Does anyone have a good recipe for a topical sinus paste / ointment - > > with > > > a tried and tested track record. I seem to be seeing a lot of > > intractable > > > sinus patients. Normal liver / sinus internal mixes + netti pot + > > > probiotics still not doing it! (though Artemisia annua worked like magic > > > with one patient) > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 , I too have a tricky patient with chronic sinusitis. I've just looked at Simon Mills' sinusitis recipe - do you prescribe it as a cream or a linament, and what quantity should be applied? Thanks Sara signature Sara Southgate BSc., ND, Dip Herb, MURHP Naturopath and Herbalist 07773 392 449 www.sarasouthgate.com " I haven't been ill at all - it's amazing - you're a genius Sara. " Alison Critchlow, Leicestershire, January 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 > I too have a tricky patient with chronic sinusitis. I'm sorry if I state the obvious, but chronic sinusitis is very often (perhaps always) a symptom of one or more fungal infections in the sinuses. The usual med for acute sinusitis is penicillin. Because docs don't know about the fungal nature of chronic sinusitis, they give penicillin for that, too. That again only adds to the fungal flora in the sinuses. To get at the cause of the problem, I'd check for mold in the living or working spaces. Once that is eliminated, the next step is a simple antifungal course, either medical (it'll work), or holistic (with antifungals as teas, tinctures and in small doses in the neti pot). Best, Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Hi Henriette Please could you clarify how you formed this opinion on the fungal nature of chronic sinusitis? Thanks and best wishes Craig From: ukherbal-list [mailto:ukherbal-list ] On Behalf Of Henriette Kress Sent: 03 May 2011 11:14 To: ukherbal-list Subject: Re: Re: Sinusitis > I too have a tricky patient with chronic sinusitis. I'm sorry if I state the obvious, but chronic sinusitis is very often (perhaps always) a symptom of one or more fungal infections in the sinuses. The usual med for acute sinusitis is penicillin. Because docs don't know about the fungal nature of chronic sinusitis, they give penicillin for that, too. That again only adds to the fungal flora in the sinuses. To get at the cause of the problem, I'd check for mold in the living or working spaces. Once that is eliminated, the next step is a simple antifungal course, either medical (it'll work), or holistic (with antifungals as teas, tinctures and in small doses in the neti pot). Best, Henriette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 > Hi Henriette > > Please could you clarify how you formed this opinion on the fungal nature of > chronic sinusitis? http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/74/9/877.full.pdf+html Best, Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I think |I read about the fungal nature of chronic sinusitis in Br Med J about 6 years ago\? Might have been the Lancet - I am on holiday and not inclined to check!  J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist ________________________________ To: ukherbal-list Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 10:13:32 AM Subject: Re: Re: Sinusitis  > I too have a tricky patient with chronic sinusitis. I'm sorry if I state the obvious, but chronic sinusitis is very often (perhaps always) a symptom of one or more fungal infections in the sinuses. The usual med for acute sinusitis is penicillin. Because docs don't know about the fungal nature of chronic sinusitis, they give penicillin for that, too. That again only adds to the fungal flora in the sinuses. To get at the cause of the problem, I'd check for mold in the living or working spaces. Once that is eliminated, the next step is a simple antifungal course, either medical (it'll work), or holistic (with antifungals as teas, tinctures and in small doses in the neti pot). Best, Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I use a cream - usually a comfrey base.  J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist ________________________________ To: ukherbal-list Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 9:47:52 AM Subject: Re: Sinusitis  , I too have a tricky patient with chronic sinusitis. I've just looked at Simon Mills' sinusitis recipe - do you prescribe it as a cream or a linament, and what quantity should be applied? Thanks Sara signature Sara Southgate BSc., ND, Dip Herb, MURHP Naturopath and Herbalist 07773 392 449 www.sarasouthgate.com " I haven't been ill at all - it's amazing - you're a genius Sara. " Alison Critchlow, Leicestershire, January 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Thanks Henriette, looks like an interesting article. Craig > Hi Henriette > > Please could you clarify how you formed this opinion on the fungal nature of > chronic sinusitis? http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/74/9/877.full.pdf+html Best, Henriette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 How long would you say it takes to respond to that topical mix?  Maggie Maggie Pope BSc [Hons] MNIMH MCPPSedgemoor House39 Taunton RoadBridgwaterSomerset TA6 3LP Subject: Sinusitis To: ukherbal-list Date: Monday, 20 June, 2011, 20:11  Bit discouraging. A young man wanted help with sinusitis. How often are young men willing to try herbal medicine? He was in a lot of pain. I tried everything. Warm poultices, hot teas, inhalations, tinctures... In the end he went to his surgery and the nurse prescribed him antibiotics. Why couldn't I help something as simple as sinusitis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 > strange, I'm surprised antibiotics helped since it's an inflammation. They usually give penicillin for acute sinusities; works a treat. Where it doesn't work is chronic sinusitis ... penicillin is fungus-derived, chronic sinusitis is fungal, whoops. H. -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Uusi kirja: http://www.henriettesherbal.com/fi/kayt-laak.html Ny bok: http://www.henriettesherbal.com/sv/prakt-lake.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Fungal infection in sinuses? Are you sure? That would be very serious! Are you sure you don't mean an allergic reaction to fungal spores? Maggie  Maggie Maggie Pope BSc [Hons] MNIMH MCPPSedgemoor House39 Taunton RoadBridgwaterSomerset TA6 3LP > strange, I'm surprised antibiotics helped since it's an inflammation. They usually give penicillin for acute sinusities; works a treat. Where it doesn't work is chronic sinusitis ... penicillin is fungus-derived, chronic sinusitis is fungal, whoops. H. -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Uusi kirja: http://www.henriettesherbal.com/fi/kayt-laak.html Ny bok: http://www.henriettesherbal.com/sv/prakt-lake.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I've helped a couple of folk with chronic sinusitis using herbal snuff that I got from son (http://www.herbalsnuff.co.uk/). A lot less messy than external rubs and packs and seemed to bring fast relief. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Well -I hope you do better than I did! I was unable to contact . Tina. Alder Re: Sinusitis I've helped a couple of folk with chronic sinusitis using herbal snuff that I got from son (http://www.herbalsnuff.co.uk/). A lot less messy than external rubs and packs and seemed to bring fast relief. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 The BMJ reported a high frequency of fungal infections which can co-occur with fungal allergy. J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist ________________________________ To: ukherbal-list Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 9:14:27 AM Subject: Re: Sinusitis Fungal infection in sinuses? Are you sure? That would be very serious! Are you sure you don't mean an allergic reaction to fungal spores? Maggie Maggie Maggie Pope BSc [Hons] MNIMH MCPPSedgemoor House39 Taunton RoadBridgwaterSomerset TA6 3LP > strange, I'm surprised antibiotics helped since it's an inflammation. They usually give penicillin for acute sinusities; works a treat. Where it doesn't work is chronic sinusitis ... penicillin is fungus-derived, chronic sinusitis is fungal, whoops. H. -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Uusi kirja: http://www.henriettesherbal.com/fi/kayt-laak.html Ny bok: http://www.henriettesherbal.com/sv/prakt-lake.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I had several clients complain about using snuff so I invented my own nasal spray based on the ingredients. It works very well for polyps, also client can maintain regular use. Lorraine Lorraine Hodgkinson MNIMH MRCHM HERBS AND HELPERS 6, Butts Fold, Cockermouth, Cumbria, CA13 9HY. UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1900 826392 Mobile: 07761 489838 (O2) www.herbalmedicineuk.com > I've helped a couple of folk with chronic sinusitis using herbal snuff > that I got from son (http://www.herbalsnuff.co.uk/). > > A lot less messy than external rubs and packs and seemed to bring fast > relief. > > a > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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