Re: New member saying hi

Posted August 25, 2009 · August 25, 2009

Wow. You really have a conundrum here. The addiction to morphine and

temazepam alone will make you feel just you describe. Did you know that?

Ask you doctor to wean you off the addictive drugs with non addictive drugs

for pain. There are non narcotic drugs for pain that you could use to kick

those two.

You are taking all the holistic stuff already it seems to me. Until you

quit the alcohol, morphine and temazepam you won¹t be able to differentiate

your symptoms from those addictions.

Can you go to a 12 step program somewhere? That would help you.

Also, I am reading a book that might help you. Its called the mindbody

prescription by Dr Sarno. There is also a site someone keeps

mentioning with musical tones to help you calm your mind and pain. Those

could help you a lot too. Its something like mentallion.com I believe. If

someone else knows the site could you tell this gentleman what it is.

Your mental anguish, your feelings of failure to your children, your

emotions over the weight gain all contribute to feeling poorly as well.

You need multiple approaches to helping you get well. Can you talk to your

doctor about those addictons though? That would be my first step if I was

giving advice to myself or a family member.

I will pray for you and you have my deepest sympathy for your grave

situation. God loves you no matter what you do, what you did and what you

look like. If you can find a ³higher power² of some description that makes

you know you are loved by a source of spiritual comfort that too would help

you get out of bed in the morning.

Good luck and keep writing I think you will find the people here are very

helpful and caring.

rosemarie

On 8/23/09 10:01 PM, " simplytortoise1 "

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,thisismy first posting.

> I am at last going to see a rheumatologist regarding FM.I am male and noticed

> everyone is female on here.I havent worked for nearly 20 years, i take 30mg

> morphine every 12 hours,c0-codamol 8/500mg every 4 hours,a sleeping tablet and

> temazepam every night as well.I also take cod liver oil tablet, multi

> vitamins,st johns wort,damiana,horny goat weed,ginko biloba, siberian

> gingseng,maca,green tea and more and still feel run down.I feel so bad on a

> morning,i am so stiff i lie there knowing i have to go through the process of

> getting up and eating etc before i can take my medication.I drink as much

> alcohol as i can so i can sleep more than 2-3 hours.Is there any males here

> that can relate to me? I really love my wife (married 20 years) but have to

> drink alcohol to get further pain relief to have sex,have to stop on many

> occasions due to the pain and no energy.I take days to recover afterwards.The

> more i worry about getting things done, the worse i feel through stress.I

> really feel like a failure to my kids,i dont even get dressed no more until

> around 6-7pm until my medication kicks in properly. I darent go out because of

> IBS and stress makes things worse.I have done parasite cleanses, colloidal

> silver,every vitamin i can think of,tens machines,back belts,green tea,my

> house is going downhill ,jobs i want to do have been on hold for 2-3 years

> now.The only way i can get things done is if i take kraton for energy.I would

> sell my soul just to be normal again.Everything the doctors give me is to

> relax me and i have piled weight on which makes my problems worse.I am so

> tired, i feel like my arms and legs are being held dowm by weights. Showers do

> help my muscles.I am making orgone to see if that helps.I am usually so

> giving, but have nothing more to give right now until i see a specialist. The

> light at the end of the tunnel is a long way away right now but dont want to

> burden my family, i am suposed to be the head of the family, the strong one.I

> even contemplated asking around for cannabis to see if that would help but its

> illegal in UK and i have never broken the law in my country.

> Any advice would be very helpful and appreciated, i,m already addicted to

> morphine, temazepam and sleeping tablets at 42.Sorry to rant on but the more i

> wait to see a specialist the more stressed i get and the worse i feel.Any

> advice i get, i will be there for you later on as i am normally a very caring

> person, i grow plants and breed endangered reptiles as my contribution to the

> world. I understand many of you will be feeling like me and hope i can be of

> help even if its just a joke now and again to forget for a minute lol.

>

Posted August 25, 2009 · August 25, 2009

I'm an alcoholic and now have over 13 years clean and sober this time. I also

have had long term sobriety in the past.

What I found is that when I took alcohol to help me sleep and for the pain and

stress, but it ended up causing more physical/mental/emotional problems. I

would get some relief and then it would let me down. Due to the cravings, I

would neglect my family even though I thought I was doing all I could.

I can affirm to you that an AA, 12-step spiritual program will help. I remember

the horrible feeling that I wasn't doing what was good for me or my family. Then

the worst thing happened. I tried to stop on my own and couldn't. I was

devastated. I had thought that I was supposed to be able to do it alone. You

know, be strong and able.

The issue with any addictions is that it is beyond any HUMAN help. We are NOT

required to do it alone. We are given weaknesses to give us an opportunity to

experience the grace of God in our lives.

We have nothing to prove to anyone. The burden of the alcohol in my system made

it extremely hard and then impossible for me to function as a mother, friend

etc. All my good intentions meant nothing as I could not follow through.

For the best results in getting off of the alcohol and prescription medications

do it under the supervision of a physician. You will probably need to be

hospitalized to detox as that is safest for you.

By the way, no medication will eliminate all of the pain we feel, we only get it

down to a functional level if we are lucky. And some days will still be better

than others.

Good luck to you, you are in my prayers

Jill in TX

-- In fibromyalgiacured , Rosemarie Tropf wrote:

>

> Wow. You really have a conundrum here. The addiction to morphine and

> temazepam alone will make you feel just you describe. Did you know that?

> Ask you doctor to wean you off the addictive drugs with non addictive drugs

> for pain. There are non narcotic drugs for pain that you could use to kick

> those two.

>

> You are taking all the holistic stuff already it seems to me. Until you

> quit the alcohol, morphine and temazepam you won¹t be able to differentiate

> your symptoms from those addictions.

>

> Can you go to a 12 step program somewhere? That would help you.

>

> Also, I am reading a book that might help you. Its called the mindbody

> prescription by Dr Sarno. There is also a site someone keeps

> mentioning with musical tones to help you calm your mind and pain. Those

> could help you a lot too. Its something like mentallion.com I believe. If

> someone else knows the site could you tell this gentleman what it is.

>

> Your mental anguish, your feelings of failure to your children, your

> emotions over the weight gain all contribute to feeling poorly as well.

>

> You need multiple approaches to helping you get well. Can you talk to your

> doctor about those addictons though? That would be my first step if I was

> giving advice to myself or a family member.

>

> I will pray for you and you have my deepest sympathy for your grave

> situation. God loves you no matter what you do, what you did and what you

> look like. If you can find a ³higher power² of some description that makes

> you know you are loved by a source of spiritual comfort that too would help

> you get out of bed in the morning.

>

> Good luck and keep writing I think you will find the people here are very

> helpful and caring.

>

> rosemarie

>

> On 8/23/09 10:01 PM, " simplytortoise1 "

> wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi everyone,thisismy first posting.

> > I am at last going to see a rheumatologist regarding FM.I am male and

noticed

> > everyone is female on here.I havent worked for nearly 20 years, i take 30mg

> > morphine every 12 hours,c0-codamol 8/500mg every 4 hours,a sleeping tablet

and

> > temazepam every night as well.I also take cod liver oil tablet, multi

> > vitamins,st johns wort,damiana,horny goat weed,ginko biloba, siberian

> > gingseng,maca,green tea and more and still feel run down.I feel so bad on a

> > morning,i am so stiff i lie there knowing i have to go through the process

of

> > getting up and eating etc before i can take my medication.I drink as much

> > alcohol as i can so i can sleep more than 2-3 hours.Is there any males here

> > that can relate to me? I really love my wife (married 20 years) but have to

> > drink alcohol to get further pain relief to have sex,have to stop on many

> > occasions due to the pain and no energy.I take days to recover

afterwards.The

> > more i worry about getting things done, the worse i feel through stress.I

> > really feel like a failure to my kids,i dont even get dressed no more until

> > around 6-7pm until my medication kicks in properly. I darent go out because

of

> > IBS and stress makes things worse.I have done parasite cleanses, colloidal

> > silver,every vitamin i can think of,tens machines,back belts,green tea,my

> > house is going downhill ,jobs i want to do have been on hold for 2-3 years

> > now.The only way i can get things done is if i take kraton for energy.I

would

> > sell my soul just to be normal again.Everything the doctors give me is to

> > relax me and i have piled weight on which makes my problems worse.I am so

> > tired, i feel like my arms and legs are being held dowm by weights. Showers

do

> > help my muscles.I am making orgone to see if that helps.I am usually so

> > giving, but have nothing more to give right now until i see a specialist.

The

> > light at the end of the tunnel is a long way away right now but dont want to

> > burden my family, i am suposed to be the head of the family, the strong

one.I

> > even contemplated asking around for cannabis to see if that would help but

its

> > illegal in UK and i have never broken the law in my country.

> > Any advice would be very helpful and appreciated, i,m already addicted to

> > morphine, temazepam and sleeping tablets at 42.Sorry to rant on but the more

i

> > wait to see a specialist the more stressed i get and the worse i feel.Any

> > advice i get, i will be there for you later on as i am normally a very

caring

> > person, i grow plants and breed endangered reptiles as my contribution to

the

> > world. I understand many of you will be feeling like me and hope i can be of

> > help even if its just a joke now and again to forget for a minute lol.

> >

>

Posted August 25, 2009 · August 25, 2009

Welcome to the site.

First: I always advise new members to go to fibrofix.com. The creator has since

passed but she has left a wonderful treasure of advise and findings.

Second: You need to get off the herbs if you are taking all of the prescribed

medications you mentioned. These together can have adverse affects. Beside the

affects, herbs do not work when mixed with medication. You should either use one

or the other. You shouldn't be mixing alcahol with your medication...that leads

to the negative symptoms you experience each morning. It can also be very

lethal. I can understand how you would go the route you have taken. Many were

the days that I was tempted to get marijuana and get the brief respite of pain.

But this is only a temporary answer. You need to get to the ROOT of the problem.

Jill and Rosemarie have said the rest, my friend. Hope this is the beginning of

a healthy program for you.

And, yes, there have been a couple of men that have appeared on this site.

Welcome again,

M

>

> >

> > Hi everyone,thisismy first posting.

> > I am at last going to see a rheumatologist regarding FM.I am male and

noticed

> > everyone is female on here.I havent worked for nearly 20 years, i take 30mg

> > morphine every 12 hours,c0-codamol 8/500mg every 4 hours,a sleeping tablet

and

> > temazepam every night as well.I also take cod liver oil tablet, multi

> > vitamins,st johns wort,damiana, horny goat weed,ginko biloba, siberian

> > gingseng,maca, green tea and more and still feel run down.I feel so bad on a

> > morning,i am so stiff i lie there knowing i have to go through the process

of

> > getting up and eating etc before i can take my medication.I drink as much

> > alcohol as i can so i can sleep more than 2-3 hours.Is there any males here

> > that can relate to me? I really love my wife (married 20 years) but have to

> > drink alcohol to get further pain relief to have sex,have to stop on many

> > occasions due to the pain and no energy.I take days to recover

afterwards.The

> > more i worry about getting things done, the worse i feel through stress.I

> > really feel like a failure to my kids,i dont even get dressed no more until

> > around 6-7pm until my medication kicks in properly. I darent go out because

of

> > IBS and stress makes things worse.I have done parasite cleanses, colloidal

> > silver,every vitamin i can think of,tens machines,back belts,green tea,my

> > house is going downhill ,jobs i want to do have been on hold for 2-3 years

> > now.The only way i can get things done is if i take kraton for energy.I

would

> > sell my soul just to be normal again.Everything the doctors give me is to

> > relax me and i have piled weight on which makes my problems worse.I am so

> > tired, i feel like my arms and legs are being held dowm by weights. Showers

do

> > help my muscles.I am making orgone to see if that helps.I am usually so

> > giving, but have nothing more to give right now until i see a specialist.

The

> > light at the end of the tunnel is a long way away right now but dont want to

> > burden my family, i am suposed to be the head of the family, the strong

one.I

> > even contemplated asking around for cannabis to see if that would help but

its

> > illegal in UK and i have never broken the law in my country.

> > Any advice would be very helpful and appreciated, i,m already addicted to

> > morphine, temazepam and sleeping tablets at 42.Sorry to rant on but the more

i

> > wait to see a specialist the more stressed i get and the worse i feel.Any

> > advice i get, i will be there for you later on as i am normally a very

caring

> > person, i grow plants and breed endangered reptiles as my contribution to

the

> > world. I understand many of you will be feeling like me and hope i can be of

> > help even if its just a joke now and again to forget for a minute lol.

> >

>

Posted August 25, 2009 · August 25, 2009

Does anyone know what happened to Anne Hillebrand? What did she die of? I'm

just curious, she was such a big part of our discussions here... but everything

about her death seems to be a secret. I don't understand.

>

> >

> > Hi everyone,thisismy first posting.

> > I am at last going to see a rheumatologist regarding FM.I am male and

noticed

> > everyone is female on here.I havent worked for nearly 20 years, i take 30mg

> > morphine every 12 hours,c0-codamol 8/500mg every 4 hours,a sleeping tablet

and

> > temazepam every night as well.I also take cod liver oil tablet, multi

> > vitamins,st johns wort,damiana, horny goat weed,ginko biloba, siberian

> > gingseng,maca, green tea and more and still feel run down.I feel so bad on a

> > morning,i am so stiff i lie there knowing i have to go through the process

of

> > getting up and eating etc before i can take my medication.I drink as much

> > alcohol as i can so i can sleep more than 2-3 hours.Is there any males here

> > that can relate to me? I really love my wife (married 20 years) but have to

> > drink alcohol to get further pain relief to have sex,have to stop on many

> > occasions due to the pain and no energy.I take days to recover

afterwards.The

> > more i worry about getting things done, the worse i feel through stress.I

> > really feel like a failure to my kids,i dont even get dressed no more until

> > around 6-7pm until my medication kicks in properly. I darent go out because

of

> > IBS and stress makes things worse.I have done parasite cleanses, colloidal

> > silver,every vitamin i can think of,tens machines,back belts,green tea,my

> > house is going downhill ,jobs i want to do have been on hold for 2-3 years

> > now.The only way i can get things done is if i take kraton for energy.I

would

> > sell my soul just to be normal again.Everything the doctors give me is to

> > relax me and i have piled weight on which makes my problems worse.I am so

> > tired, i feel like my arms and legs are being held dowm by weights. Showers

do

> > help my muscles.I am making orgone to see if that helps.I am usually so

> > giving, but have nothing more to give right now until i see a specialist.

The

> > light at the end of the tunnel is a long way away right now but dont want to

> > burden my family, i am suposed to be the head of the family, the strong

one.I

> > even contemplated asking around for cannabis to see if that would help but

its

> > illegal in UK and i have never broken the law in my country.

> > Any advice would be very helpful and appreciated, i,m already addicted to

> > morphine, temazepam and sleeping tablets at 42.Sorry to rant on but the more

i

> > wait to see a specialist the more stressed i get and the worse i feel.Any

> > advice i get, i will be there for you later on as i am normally a very

caring

> > person, i grow plants and breed endangered reptiles as my contribution to

the

> > world. I understand many of you will be feeling like me and hope i can be of

> > help even if its just a joke now and again to forget for a minute lol.

> >

>

Posted August 25, 2009 · August 25, 2009

Hi New member, I am kind of new here myself as I have been lurking for awhile

and I don't always have time to look at all my e-mail. I saw your post though

and felt I had to reply. I have fibromyalgia and IBS. I will tell you something

that made my IBS go away and also helped a lot with the pain of Fibro. My

doctor took blood samples and had them tested for what foods I was sensitive to.

It turns out I was sensitive to a lot. Wheat, Corn, milk, and chicken were the

big ones. When I eliminated these foods from my diet my pain levels went way

down and my IBS went AWAY! The experts told me that it didn't matter what I ate

for the IBS, boy were they wrong! I would encourage you to get your blood

tested too. You might have to go to a naturalpathic doctor for this as They MDs

don't seem to know about this.

I have started a new treatment for fibro which also works for a lot of other

problems too. Its called LDN or Low Dose Naltrexone. There have been studies

and a large number of people on the internet who are taking this and are having

positive results. Even people with Multiple Sclerosis! My Naturalpathic doctor

recommeded to me after a great success with a lupus patient. The only problem

for you with this would be the narcotics. One can not take both at the same

time. So Maybe, if you get off the narcotics you could try that.

I hope this information is helpful. Good luck to you.

Rhonda

Posted August 26, 2009 · August 26, 2009

do you have the answer to that question?

>

> Does anyone know what happened to Anne Hillebrand? What did she die of? I'm

> just curious, she was such a big part of our discussions here... but

> everything about her death seems to be a secret. I don't understand.

>

>> >

>>> > >

>>> > > Hi everyone,thisismy first posting.

>>> > > I am at last going to see a rheumatologist regarding FM.I am male and

>>> noticed

>>> > > everyone is female on here.I havent worked for nearly 20 years, i take

>>> 30mg

>>> > > morphine every 12 hours,c0-codamol 8/500mg every 4 hours,a sleeping

>>> tablet and

>>> > > temazepam every night as well.I also take cod liver oil tablet, multi

>>> > > vitamins,st johns wort,damiana, horny goat weed,ginko biloba, siberian

>>> > > gingseng,maca, green tea and more and still feel run down.I feel so bad

>>> on a

>>> > > morning,i am so stiff i lie there knowing i have to go through the

>>> process of

>>> > > getting up and eating etc before i can take my medication.I drink as >>>

much

>>> > > alcohol as i can so i can sleep more than 2-3 hours.Is there any males

>>> here

>>> > > that can relate to me? I really love my wife (married 20 years) but have

to

>>> > > drink alcohol to get further pain relief to have sex,have to stop on >>>

many

>>> > > occasions due to the pain and no energy.I take days to recover

>>> afterwards.The

>>> > > more i worry about getting things done, the worse i feel through

>>> stress.I

>>> > > really feel like a failure to my kids,i dont even get dressed no more

>>> until

>>> > > around 6-7pm until my medication kicks in properly. I darent go out

>>> because of

>>> > > IBS and stress makes things worse.I have done parasite cleanses,

>>> colloidal

>>> > > silver,every vitamin i can think of,tens machines,back belts,green

>>> tea,my

>>> > > house is going downhill ,jobs i want to do have been on hold for 2-3 >>>

years

>>> > > now.The only way i can get things done is if i take kraton for energy.I

>>> would

>>> > > sell my soul just to be normal again.Everything the doctors give me is

to

>>> > > relax me and i have piled weight on which makes my problems worse.I am

so

>>> > > tired, i feel like my arms and legs are being held dowm by weights.

>>> Showers do

>>> > > help my muscles.I am making orgone to see if that helps.I am usually so

>>> > > giving, but have nothing more to give right now until i see a

>>> specialist. The

>>> > > light at the end of the tunnel is a long way away right now but dont

>>> want to

>>> > > burden my family, i am suposed to be the head of the family, the strong

>>> one.I

>>> > > even contemplated asking around for cannabis to see if that would help

>>> but its

>>> > > illegal in UK and i have never broken the law in my country.

>>> > > Any advice would be very helpful and appreciated, i,m already addicted

to

>>> > > morphine, temazepam and sleeping tablets at 42.Sorry to rant on but the

>>> more i

>>> > > wait to see a specialist the more stressed i get and the worse i

>>> feel.Any

>>> > > advice i get, i will be there for you later on as i am normally a very

>>> caring

>>> > > person, i grow plants and breed endangered reptiles as my contribution

>>> to the

>>> > > world. I understand many of you will be feeling like me and hope i can

>>> be of

>>> > > help even if its just a joke now and again to forget for a minute lol.

>>> > >

>> >

Posted August 26, 2009 · August 26, 2009

When I spoke to Mr. Hillebrand, he said she had died, she died of cancer, and

began to weep. I then spoke up on behalf of the group and said our prayers were

with him. If there was anything I could do just to tell me, then I asked if I

could relay the news to the group. His answer came as, " Yes, I guess so. "

I called him this morning to see how he was doing but you only get a message

from Lovely Anne's voice. He truly loved her...he can't even erase her message

on the phone recorder.

That is about the extent of it. I pray for him every morning.

M

>> >

>>> > >

>>> > > Hi everyone,thisismy first posting.

>>> > > I am at last going to see a rheumatologist regarding FM.I am male and

>>> noticed

>>> > > everyone is female on here.I havent worked for nearly 20 years, i take

>>> 30mg

>>> > > morphine every 12 hours,c0-codamol 8/500mg every 4 hours,a sleeping

>>> tablet and

>>> > > temazepam every night as well.I also take cod liver oil tablet, multi

>>> > > vitamins,st johns wort,damiana, horny goat weed,ginko biloba, siberian

>>> > > gingseng,maca, green tea and more and still feel run down.I feel so bad

>>> on a

>>> > > morning,i am so stiff i lie there knowing i have to go through the

>>> process of

>>> > > getting up and eating etc before i can take my medication.I drink as >>>

much

>>> > > alcohol as i can so i can sleep more than 2-3 hours.Is there any males

>>> here

>>> > > that can relate to me? I really love my wife (married 20 years) but have

to

>>> > > drink alcohol to get further pain relief to have sex,have to stop on >>>

many

>>> > > occasions due to the pain and no energy.I take days to recover

>>> afterwards.The

>>> > > more i worry about getting things done, the worse i feel through

>>> stress.I

>>> > > really feel like a failure to my kids,i dont even get dressed no more

>>> until

>>> > > around 6-7pm until my medication kicks in properly. I darent go out

>>> because of

>>> > > IBS and stress makes things worse.I have done parasite cleanses,

>>> colloidal

>>> > > silver,every vitamin i can think of,tens machines,back belts,green

>>> tea,my

>>> > > house is going downhill ,jobs i want to do have been on hold for 2-3 >>>

years

>>> > > now.The only way i can get things done is if i take kraton for energy.I

>>> would

>>> > > sell my soul just to be normal again.Everything the doctors give me is

to

>>> > > relax me and i have piled weight on which makes my problems worse.I am

so

>>> > > tired, i feel like my arms and legs are being held dowm by weights.

>>> Showers do

>>> > > help my muscles.I am making orgone to see if that helps.I am usually so

>>> > > giving, but have nothing more to give right now until i see a

>>> specialist. The

>>> > > light at the end of the tunnel is a long way away right now but dont

>>> want to

>>> > > burden my family, i am suposed to be the head of the family, the strong

>>> one.I

>>> > > even contemplated asking around for cannabis to see if that would help

>>> but its

>>> > > illegal in UK and i have never broken the law in my country.

>>> > > Any advice would be very helpful and appreciated, i,m already addicted

to

>>> > > morphine, temazepam and sleeping tablets at 42.Sorry to rant on but the

>>> more i

>>> > > wait to see a specialist the more stressed i get and the worse i

>>> feel.Any

>>> > > advice i get, i will be there for you later on as i am normally a very

>>> caring

>>> > > person, i grow plants and breed endangered reptiles as my contribution

>>> to the

>>> > > world. I understand many of you will be feeling like me and hope i can

>>> be of

>>> > > help even if its just a joke now and again to forget for a minute lol.

>>> > >

>> >

Posted August 27, 2009 · August 27, 2009

Thanks maria ;D

>

> When I spoke to Mr. Hillebrand, he said she had died, she died of cancer, and

> began to weep. I then spoke up on behalf of the group and said our prayers

> were with him. If there was anything I could do just to tell me, then I asked

> if I could relay the news to the group. His answer came as, " Yes, I guess so. "

> I called him this morning to see how he was doing but you only get a message

> from Lovely Anne's voice. He truly loved her...he can't even erase her message

> on the phone recorder.

> That is about the extent of it. I pray for him every morning.

> M

>

>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > > Hi everyone,thisismy first posting.

>>>>>> >>> > > I am at last going to see a rheumatologist regarding FM.I am male

and

>>>> >>> noticed

>>>>>> >>> > > everyone is female on here.I havent worked for nearly 20 years, i

take

>>>> >>> 30mg

>>>>>> >>> > > morphine every 12 hours,c0-codamol 8/500mg every 4 hours,a >>>>>>

sleeping

>>>> >>> tablet and

>>>>>> >>> > > temazepam every night as well.I also take cod liver oil tablet,

multi

>>>>>> >>> > > vitamins,st johns wort,damiana, horny goat weed,ginko biloba,

>>>>>> siberian

>>>>>> >>> > > gingseng,maca, green tea and more and still feel run down.I feel

so bad

>>>> >>> on a

>>>>>> >>> > > morning,i am so stiff i lie there knowing i have to go through

the

>>>> >>> process of

>>>>>> >>> > > getting up and eating etc before i can take my medication.I drink

as >>>

> much

>>>>>> >>> > > alcohol as i can so i can sleep more than 2-3 hours.Is there any

males

>>>> >>> here

>>>>>> >>> > > that can relate to me? I really love my wife (married 20 years)

>>>>>> but have

> to

>>>>>> >>> > > drink alcohol to get further pain relief to have sex,have to stop

on >>>

> many

>>>>>> >>> > > occasions due to the pain and no energy.I take days to recover

>>>> >>> afterwards.The

>>>>>> >>> > > more i worry about getting things done, the worse i feel through

>>>> >>> stress.I

>>>>>> >>> > > really feel like a failure to my kids,i dont even get dressed no

more

>>>> >>> until

>>>>>> >>> > > around 6-7pm until my medication kicks in properly. I darent go

out

>>>> >>> because of

>>>>>> >>> > > IBS and stress makes things worse.I have done parasite cleanses,

>>>> >>> colloidal

>>>>>> >>> > > silver,every vitamin i can think of,tens machines,back

>>>>>> belts,green

>>>> >>> tea,my

>>>>>> >>> > > house is going downhill ,jobs i want to do have been on hold for

2-3 >>>

> years

>>>>>> >>> > > now.The only way i can get things done is if i take kraton for

>>>>>> energy.I

>>>> >>> would

>>>>>> >>> > > sell my soul just to be normal again.Everything the doctors give

me is

> to

>>>>>> >>> > > relax me and i have piled weight on which makes my problems

>>>>>> worse.I am

> so

>>>>>> >>> > > tired, i feel like my arms and legs are being held dowm by >>>>>>

weights.

>>>> >>> Showers do

>>>>>> >>> > > help my muscles.I am making orgone to see if that helps.I am

>>>>>> usually so

>>>>>> >>> > > giving, but have nothing more to give right now until i see a

>>>> >>> specialist. The

>>>>>> >>> > > light at the end of the tunnel is a long way away right now but

dont

>>>> >>> want to

>>>>>> >>> > > burden my family, i am suposed to be the head of the family, the

strong

>>>> >>> one.I

>>>>>> >>> > > even contemplated asking around for cannabis to see if that would

help

>>>> >>> but its

>>>>>> >>> > > illegal in UK and i have never broken the law in my country.

>>>>>> >>> > > Any advice would be very helpful and appreciated, i,m already

>>>>>> addicted

> to

>>>>>> >>> > > morphine, temazepam and sleeping tablets at 42.Sorry to rant on

but the

>>>> >>> more i

>>>>>> >>> > > wait to see a specialist the more stressed i get and the worse i

>>>> >>> feel.Any

>>>>>> >>> > > advice i get, i will be there for you later on as i am normally a

very

>>>> >>> caring

>>>>>> >>> > > person, i grow plants and breed endangered reptiles as my

>>>>>> contribution

>>>> >>> to the

>>>>>> >>> > > world. I understand many of you will be feeling like me and hope

i can

>>>> >>> be of

>>>>>> >>> > > help even if its just a joke now and again to forget for a minute

lol.

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>> >> >

Posted August 27, 2009 · August 27, 2009

Yes... thanks very much. She was a sweetheart, that's for sure!

Traci

>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > > Hi everyone,thisismy first posting.

>>>>>> >>> > > I am at last going to see a rheumatologist regarding FM.I am male

and

>>>> >>> noticed

>>>>>> >>> > > everyone is female on here.I havent worked for nearly 20 years, i

take

>>>> >>> 30mg

>>>>>> >>> > > morphine every 12 hours,c0-codamol 8/500mg every 4 hours,a >>>>>>

sleeping

>>>> >>> tablet and

>>>>>> >>> > > temazepam every night as well.I also take cod liver oil tablet,

multi

>>>>>> >>> > > vitamins,st johns wort,damiana, horny goat weed,ginko biloba,

>>>>>> siberian

>>>>>> >>> > > gingseng,maca, green tea and more and still feel run down.I feel

so bad

>>>> >>> on a

>>>>>> >>> > > morning,i am so stiff i lie there knowing i have to go through

the

>>>> >>> process of

>>>>>> >>> > > getting up and eating etc before i can take my medication.I drink

as >>>

> much

>>>>>> >>> > > alcohol as i can so i can sleep more than 2-3 hours.Is there any

males

>>>> >>> here

>>>>>> >>> > > that can relate to me? I really love my wife (married 20 years)

>>>>>> but have

> to

>>>>>> >>> > > drink alcohol to get further pain relief to have sex,have to stop

on >>>

> many

>>>>>> >>> > > occasions due to the pain and no energy.I take days to recover

>>>> >>> afterwards.The

>>>>>> >>> > > more i worry about getting things done, the worse i feel through

>>>> >>> stress.I

>>>>>> >>> > > really feel like a failure to my kids,i dont even get dressed no

more

>>>> >>> until

>>>>>> >>> > > around 6-7pm until my medication kicks in properly. I darent go

out

>>>> >>> because of

>>>>>> >>> > > IBS and stress makes things worse.I have done parasite cleanses,

>>>> >>> colloidal

>>>>>> >>> > > silver,every vitamin i can think of,tens machines,back

>>>>>> belts,green

>>>> >>> tea,my

>>>>>> >>> > > house is going downhill ,jobs i want to do have been on hold for

2-3 >>>

> years

>>>>>> >>> > > now.The only way i can get things done is if i take kraton for

>>>>>> energy.I

>>>> >>> would

>>>>>> >>> > > sell my soul just to be normal again.Everything the doctors give

me is

> to

>>>>>> >>> > > relax me and i have piled weight on which makes my problems

>>>>>> worse.I am

> so

>>>>>> >>> > > tired, i feel like my arms and legs are being held dowm by >>>>>>

weights.

>>>> >>> Showers do

>>>>>> >>> > > help my muscles.I am making orgone to see if that helps.I am

>>>>>> usually so

>>>>>> >>> > > giving, but have nothing more to give right now until i see a

>>>> >>> specialist. The

>>>>>> >>> > > light at the end of the tunnel is a long way away right now but

dont

>>>> >>> want to

>>>>>> >>> > > burden my family, i am suposed to be the head of the family, the

strong

>>>> >>> one.I

>>>>>> >>> > > even contemplated asking around for cannabis to see if that would

help

>>>> >>> but its

>>>>>> >>> > > illegal in UK and i have never broken the law in my country.

>>>>>> >>> > > Any advice would be very helpful and appreciated, i,m already

>>>>>> addicted

> to

>>>>>> >>> > > morphine, temazepam and sleeping tablets at 42.Sorry to rant on

but the

>>>> >>> more i

>>>>>> >>> > > wait to see a specialist the more stressed i get and the worse i

>>>> >>> feel.Any

>>>>>> >>> > > advice i get, i will be there for you later on as i am normally a

very

>>>> >>> caring

>>>>>> >>> > > person, i grow plants and breed endangered reptiles as my

>>>>>> contribution

>>>> >>> to the

>>>>>> >>> > > world. I understand many of you will be feeling like me and hope

i can

>>>> >>> be of

>>>>>> >>> > > help even if its just a joke now and again to forget for a minute

lol.

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>> >> >

Posted August 28, 2009 · August 28, 2009

Hi :

I notice you have already had a couple of responses to your email below and

I agree with them about detoxing and the 12 step program.

One other thing, if you are getting off the drugs, you should take your

natural supplements. I know from a previous job I had that when you are

coming off drugs you should have lots of b complex daily and extra vitamin

B1. When yo do not have enough B1 you can have nightmares.

Also, my sister just came off a drug cocktail like yours. She almost died

this week. She was on diazepam, morphine, lyrica, two antidepressants and

sleeping pills. She was dropping things, woke in the middle of the night

screaming, seeing things, bumping into things running around, talking like

she was drunk can¹t remember a thing her hands were shaking, she lost the

use of her legs and was having BM¹s while standing still in her home. She

could not control her bowels. Her husband took her to the emergency room,

they gave her another drug and then she really got sick vomiting etc. so

her husband took all the drugs away from her and in two days she is a

different person. She went to her doctor and told him what happened and he

gave her a name for it, which she can¹t remember but it means her nervous

system was totally messed up and she could have died. I thank God her

husband took those pills away from her. Every time she felt worse she took

another pill of some kind.

So, be grateful that you are still alive. She cannot believe how grateful

she is just to be alive today. She called me as she lives in Canada and I

live in Florida but all my relatives were with her.

As you can tell all those pills are not making you better, you are not pain

free and you suffer from side effects. Is it so much worse to just have

pain and live on vitamins and exercise?

I think you also should buy the book by Dr Sarno called the Mindbody

Prescription or the other he wrote called Back Pain. You will be amazed at

this information.

It will feel terrible for a couple of days but not as terrible as having

that cocktail destroy your nervous system. You can do this. We are all

rooting for you.

Find a good 12 step program, take a long hot shower, and go there. Meet

some people who will support you, and hug you and care about you. Got to

two or three meetings a day. All those meetings will give you back hope and

self love and a program to work on toward regaining your inner strength.

Trust us, it works.

Have a good day

rosemarie

>

> Thanks for everyone's help. I stopped the diazepam and the sleeping tablets 3

> days ago and cut myself down from 60 mg a day of morphine to 40mg a day

> yesterday.

> The pain is bad, i'm hoping its from the cut back of morphine, have the runs,

> runny nose and feel like i have a dozen ferrets squirming around in my

> stomach. After being on diazepam for years my nerves are a mess, im dropping

> things, jumping at every noise and my vision is being affected, the walls look

> to be moving.

> Its only when i come off these tablets that i realise i need them to sleep,

> i,m wide awake right now at 3.38. am. I had 2 bottles of beer tonight so

> that's a big cut down for me. I know things have to get worse before they get

> better, but I'm trying to get off this stuff as someone said these tablets

> give the same side effects as FM.

> On a good note, i am losing weight with the runs and being sick. Rhonda its

> funny but my ibs is caused by wheat and dairy products and spicy foods so i

> know what your saying.I am trying to get off these meds so i can try the other

> meds you all recommend for FM. Its so easy to take the stuff from the docs but

> much harder to leave them alone after-wards. I,m starting to think i have cut

> back too fast but realise it could be the withdrawal wanting me to take them

> again.I have stopped my multi vitamins, ginseng etc as well so having a real

> good detox, just fruit, vegetables and water and a little real meat.

> If anyone needs any help by email, i,m here, i need to keep myself occupied

> without moving around too much at the moment.

> Just to cheer anyone up that cant sleep (like me) i was looking at a dvd for

> sale that shows sheep jumping over a gate to help people sleep.You count the

> sheep rather than having to imagine counting them in your head....whatever

> next

> Hope everyone has a good day tomorrow, if not then a better day than today....

>

> ________________________________

> From: rsonby <rsonby@... <mailto:rsonby%40gmail.com> >

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 2:11:02

> Subject: Re: New member saying hi

>

> Hi New member, I am kind of new here myself as I have been lurking for awhile

> and I don't always have time to look at all my e-mail. I saw your post though

> and felt I had to reply. I have fibromyalgia and IBS. I will tell you

> something that made my IBS go away and also helped a lot with the pain of

> Fibro. My doctor took blood samples and had them tested for what foods I was

> sensitive to. It turns out I was sensitive to a lot. Wheat, Corn, milk, and

> chicken were the big ones. When I eliminated these foods from my diet my pain

> levels went way down and my IBS went AWAY! The experts told me that it didn't

> matter what I ate for the IBS, boy were they wrong! I would encourage you to

> get your blood tested too. You might have to go to a naturalpathic doctor for

> this as They MDs don't seem to know about this.

>

> I have started a new treatment for fibro which also works for a lot of other

> problems too. Its called LDN or Low Dose Naltrexone. There have been studies

> and a large number of people on the internet who are taking this and are

> having positive results. Even people with Multiple Sclerosis! My

> Naturalpathic doctor recommeded to me after a great success with a lupus

> patient. The only problem for you with this would be the narcotics. One can

> not take both at the same time. So Maybe, if you get off the narcotics you

> could try that.

>

> I hope this information is helpful. Good luck to you.

>

> Rhonda

>

Posted August 28, 2009 · August 28, 2009

I don't know if anyone would agree with me but I think you would do better to

cut back each drug a small amount every few(5 -7) days until you're clean.