cognitive therapy

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In a message dated 10/12/04 10:06:01 PM, JUNG-FIRE writes:

<< Just wondering what the current Jungian position is on cognitive

therapy?

My analyst suggested c.t. as a " solving the here and now " questions

of life without excavating old traumas. >>

I can't speak to the official Jungian position on cognitive therapy, but my

personal position is that it literally saved my life, and gave me a roadmap to

walk out of the abyss into which I had fallen. I worked with Emery, one

of the early practicioners of c.t., and he was brilliant.

If you do the work required, you do find the " Why " of your behavior. At least

I did, and lessons learned when I was working with are still with me,

assisting me, 17 years later. And yes, it is a great help in solving " here and

now " problems.

It's probably not for everyone, and may not work for everyone , and is

particularly good with verbal people ( said as much).

You walk through the knives, but you do get through them.

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In a message dated 10/15/2004 10:32:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

zozie@... writes:

In my own experience, the unconscious roots weren't ignored. They flew up

and

hit me in the face, as did the recognition of life patterns. This ain't Dr

Phil, Greg. Or, at least, my experience with Emery wasn't. I do not

mean to

say that it's some sort of miracle cure or silver bullet, but, again, my

experience, it isn't just a bandaid.

The " here and now " is a doorway. The nearly immediate release from pain

pushes that doorway open, and if one can walk through it and confront the

deeper

sources of distress, a meaningful healing begins.

Hi Greg, Phoebe:

I have to agree about cognitive therapy, when in good hands, being very much

about the " here and now. "

I use it in my own work with the handful of clients I see privately in

combination with a " mindfulness based " therapy. It's actually quite effective

when combined with meditation practice. One of the therapies which is quite

effective with adolescents is DBT. (Dialectical Behavior Therapy) which focuses

on developing the " witness " to begin to observe how one's behavior gets in

the way of what we really want and need. Gets to the bottom of how some

behavior is self punishing and self defeating... Very existential, very " here

and

now " coming in the door, but that doesn't prevent the deeper wounds from being

seen..If anything it creates a safe container for that to happen. Nowadays

most people don't have the opportunity to do depth work...most insurance will

only pay for six to eight sessions and helping someone observe the net effect

of their behavior is a very good place to begin.

Love and Blessings,

Suzanne