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Hi Eva, Anne and all,

I agree, Anne, compiling a database according to scientific principles would

be a huge task, but as Eva suggests, not impossible. Exclusion criteria

would need to be developed (e.g. do pharmacological studies count as

evidence, what role do case series play) and critiqued - it is definitely a

task that would require more than 1 or 2 people...

The majority on this list apparently privileges tradition and magical

thinking, with EBM data providing additional bits of info " as far as it

goes " . Compiling said database would require the view that an approach based

on scientific methodologies is superior, that such methodologies are

infinitely better able to provide justified true belief (i.e. knowledge)

than tradition, uncontrolled personal observation, dowsing or other magical

procedures. This view is clearly rejected by the majority here.

The fact that tradition is seen to provide definite knowledge, while all

scientific knowledge is by definition open to challenge and therefore not

only disputable but subject to change ('scientists continually argue' was

given as a reason for preferring tradition), makes tradition a very

reassuring and attractive option. However, as soon as magical

thinking/intuition is included as a source of justification (rather than as

a means of forming hypotheses), rigour goes out the door. 'Traditional

knowledge', while a useful starting point, causes similar problems in regard

to justification.

I may find it depressing, but the reality is that the vast majority on this

list appears to believe that tradition and/or magical thinking/intuition can

provide justification as well as if not better than scientific

methodologies. For them a discussion about an epistemic system based solely

on scientific methodologies is clearly irrelevant, making this forum the

wrong place in which to discuss such a project. In any case, as Graham has

pointed out, this is intended to be a list on which to discuss case

histories.

Thanking you for this discussion and engagement,

best regards,

Sabine

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