Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Hi Lou,Keep an eye on that. Use that pulse oximeter. The docs want you to keep your saturations above 92 on room air. 91 is ok but not great. Running 90 or below chronically will cause stress on the heart and brain. Sounds like you are a shallow breather. If you do the exercise several times a day (15 - 20) it will retrain your body to breathe deeper. I am so lucky that I don't have food allergies. I have enough trouble following dietary restrictions for the GERD and kidneys. I can't imagine having to worry about individual ingredients as well. XOXOXOXOMadelineTo: asthma Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PMSubject: Breathing I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked. "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. Good breathing to all, Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, " You're having an asthma attack! " and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally " all there " to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  " the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach. "  This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Most docs prefer it to be between 95-100, but with a person with known respiratory difficulties, 90-100 is acceptable. Now if a person has COPD and is chronically in the upper 80s/low 90s as a normal thing, they dont usually get too excited with that...giving a person with COPD too much oxygen can actually reduce their drive to breathe. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 im wondering if anyone could tell me why when im having an atack my O2 doesnt drop low? mayb cuz mine is cough variant AND Allergic asthma... does anyone know why thisis,,,,, > I will only be on here for a minute because I am still very sick. When I came home from er & hospital apparently I caught something that turned into a very bad throat (strep) and every single gland swelled. Thought after antibiotics for 3 days that I would be able to shake it but am just as bad. caught strep throat from me and was also put on the z pack and apparently germs are in apartment and can't shake it..... > >You won't believe this but when I complained to rheumy that I was still sick last week she told me to go to an ENT and I did but the day I saw ENT he told me that throat looked much better to him and he sent that note back to rheumy. Well, today I have 99.1 at 4pm and hope it doesn't go up more by tonight but infection is in mouth, glands, throat and chest again. I can't believe this.... Rheumy doesn't have hours on Friday and receptionist had to fax her about my 99.1 and rheumy faxed or called her back to tell her to tell me that I should go back to the ENT. What B.LLS!!!! I can't believe it. Thought she would be telling me to be in Rheumy's office Monday morning but that didn't happen .... > >Sharon > > > > >Subject: Re: Re: quick question >Date: August 19, 2011 11:48:51 AM EDT >To: " asthma " <asthma > >I got my flu shot yesterday. I have been doing well today. I had a rough time with it last year because the seasonal vaccine was combined with the H1N1 vaccine. This year, so far, no problems with feeling bad. > > >From: Wolf >To: asthma >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:35 AM >Subject: Re: Re: quick question > > >Thanks again Jean. Sorry if you get this message twice. >My doctor is very sensitive to my concerns. She said she would give me a small test to see if I responded. Then I would only get 1/2 and we would wait 30 minutes before we administered the next 30 minutes if everything went okay. >I appreciate your prayers and thoughts! >On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:20 AM, gigles_1955 wrote: > >hi . >I just responded to your email..I am the one with a dd who also got frequent resp. infections and who is so much better now after the pneuvax shot....ok...I just read this about your reaction to the flu shot....flu vaccines have thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative) in them..or they use to(not sure if they still do)...could it be you reacted to this? the pneumvax doesnt have this presvative..maybe something you can ask you dr. please note, although my dd who tested possitive to mercury on an allergy test she did not have any reaction to the flu vaccine..you may be more sensitive to things like this...just thought I mention the presvative in case you want to ck into. >Ill keep you in my thoughts and prayers...I know how hard it is to be sick all the time. jean > > > >> >> Thanks. I think the reason I'm a little shy is because I too had the flu >> shot this year and my body went into rejection mode. I'm a little skittish >> now. I used to have no trouble with shots or medication but after really >> getting sick, my body has become super sensitive to medication. > > > > >-- >Take care, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Mine doesn't always drop low either. I don't know.To: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:29 PMSubject: Re: breathing im wondering if anyone could tell me why when im having an atack my O2 doesnt drop low? mayb cuz mine is cough variant AND Allergic asthma... does anyone know why thisis,,,,, > I will only be on here for a minute because I am still very sick. When I came home from er & hospital apparently I caught something that turned into a very bad throat (strep) and every single gland swelled. Thought after antibiotics for 3 days that I would be able to shake it but am just as bad. caught strep throat from me and was also put on the z pack and apparently germs are in apartment and can't shake it..... > >You won't believe this but when I complained to rheumy that I was still sick last week she told me to go to an ENT and I did but the day I saw ENT he told me that throat looked much better to him and he sent that note back to rheumy. Well, today I have 99.1 at 4pm and hope it doesn't go up more by tonight but infection is in mouth, glands, throat and chest again. I can't believe this.... Rheumy doesn't have hours on Friday and receptionist had to fax her about my 99.1 and rheumy faxed or called her back to tell her to tell me that I should go back to the ENT. What B.LLS!!!! I can't believe it. Thought she would be telling me to be in Rheumy's office Monday morning but that didn't happen .... > >Sharon > > > >From: " Canter" >Subject: Re: Re: quick question >Date: August 19, 2011 11:48:51 AM EDT >To: "asthma " <asthma > >I got my flu shot yesterday. I have been doing well today. I had a rough time with it last year because the seasonal vaccine was combined with the H1N1 vaccine. This year, so far, no problems with feeling bad. > > > >To: asthma >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:35 AM >Subject: Re: Re: quick question > > >Thanks again Jean. Sorry if you get this message twice. >My doctor is very sensitive to my concerns. She said she would give me a small test to see if I responded. Then I would only get 1/2 and we would wait 30 minutes before we administered the next 30 minutes if everything went okay. >I appreciate your prayers and thoughts! > > >hi . >I just responded to your email..I am the one with a dd who also got frequent resp. infections and who is so much better now after the pneuvax shot....ok...I just read this about your reaction to the flu shot....flu vaccines have thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative) in them..or they use to(not sure if they still do)...could it be you reacted to this? the pneumvax doesnt have this presvative..maybe something you can ask you dr. please note, although my dd who tested possitive to mercury on an allergy test she did not have any reaction to the flu vaccine..you may be more sensitive to things like this...just thought I mention the presvative in case you want to ck into. >Ill keep you in my thoughts and prayers...I know how hard it is to be sick all the time. jean > > > >> >> Thanks. I think the reason I'm a little shy is because I too had the flu >> shot this year and my body went into rejection mode. I'm a little skittish >> now. I used to have no trouble with shots or medication but after really >> getting sick, my body has become super sensitive to medication. > > > > >-- >Take care, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Hi Karan.It is actually unusual for your oxygen levels to drop during an asthma attack. Many people will have trouble keeping a stable level for 10 or 12 hours once the attack has calmed down (me). However, those people usually have other complications as well. A good deal of the time, your oxygen saturations will even increase during most of the attack. This is because you are really fighting to breathe. Asthmatics have a hard time with the exhale, but your body will gulp air in while struggling to get it back out. This often leads to hyperventilating which has increased blood gas oxygen and decreased carbon dioxide. MadelineTo: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:29 PMSubject: Re: breathing im wondering if anyone could tell me why when im having an atack my O2 doesnt drop low? mayb cuz mine is cough variant AND Allergic asthma... does anyone know why thisis,,,,, > I will only be on here for a minute because I am still very sick. When I came home from er & hospital apparently I caught something that turned into a very bad throat (strep) and every single gland swelled. Thought after antibiotics for 3 days that I would be able to shake it but am just as bad. caught strep throat from me and was also put on the z pack and apparently germs are in apartment and can't shake it..... > >You won't believe this but when I complained to rheumy that I was still sick last week she told me to go to an ENT and I did but the day I saw ENT he told me that throat looked much better to him and he sent that note back to rheumy. Well, today I have 99.1 at 4pm and hope it doesn't go up more by tonight but infection is in mouth, glands, throat and chest again. I can't believe this.... Rheumy doesn't have hours on Friday and receptionist had to fax her about my 99.1 and rheumy faxed or called her back to tell her to tell me that I should go back to the ENT. What B.LLS!!!! I can't believe it. Thought she would be telling me to be in Rheumy's office Monday morning but that didn't happen .... > >Sharon > > > >From: " Canter" >Subject: Re: Re: quick question >Date: August 19, 2011 11:48:51 AM EDT >To: "asthma " <asthma > >I got my flu shot yesterday. I have been doing well today. I had a rough time with it last year because the seasonal vaccine was combined with the H1N1 vaccine. This year, so far, no problems with feeling bad. > > > >To: asthma >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:35 AM >Subject: Re: Re: quick question > > >Thanks again Jean. Sorry if you get this message twice. >My doctor is very sensitive to my concerns. She said she would give me a small test to see if I responded. Then I would only get 1/2 and we would wait 30 minutes before we administered the next 30 minutes if everything went okay. >I appreciate your prayers and thoughts! > > >hi . >I just responded to your email..I am the one with a dd who also got frequent resp. infections and who is so much better now after the pneuvax shot....ok...I just read this about your reaction to the flu shot....flu vaccines have thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative) in them..or they use to(not sure if they still do)...could it be you reacted to this? the pneumvax doesnt have this presvative..maybe something you can ask you dr. please note, although my dd who tested possitive to mercury on an allergy test she did not have any reaction to the flu vaccine..you may be more sensitive to things like this...just thought I mention the presvative in case you want to ck into. >Ill keep you in my thoughts and prayers...I know how hard it is to be sick all the time. jean > > > >> >> Thanks. I think the reason I'm a little shy is because I too had the flu >> shot this year and my body went into rejection mode. I'm a little skittish >> now. I used to have no trouble with shots or medication but after really >> getting sick, my body has become super sensitive to medication. > > > > >-- >Take care, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 When I have an attack my peak flow To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:40 PMSubject: Re: breathing Hi Karan.It is actually unusual for your oxygen levels to drop during an asthma attack. Many people will have trouble keeping a stable level for 10 or 12 hours once the attack has calmed down (me). However, those people usually have other complications as well. A good deal of the time, your oxygen saturations will even increase during most of the attack. This is because you are really fighting to breathe. Asthmatics have a hard time with the exhale, but your body will gulp air in while struggling to get it back out. This often leads to hyperventilating which has increased blood gas oxygen and decreased carbon dioxide. MadelineTo: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:29 PMSubject: Re: breathing im wondering if anyone could tell me why when im having an atack my O2 doesnt drop low? mayb cuz mine is cough variant AND Allergic asthma... does anyone know why thisis,,,,, > I will only be on here for a minute because I am still very sick. When I came home from er & hospital apparently I caught something that turned into a very bad throat (strep) and every single gland swelled. Thought after antibiotics for 3 days that I would be able to shake it but am just as bad. caught strep throat from me and was also put on the z pack and apparently germs are in apartment and can't shake it..... > >You won't believe this but when I complained to rheumy that I was still sick last week she told me to go to an ENT and I did but the day I saw ENT he told me that throat looked much better to him and he sent that note back to rheumy. Well, today I have 99.1 at 4pm and hope it doesn't go up more by tonight but infection is in mouth, glands, throat and chest again. I can't believe this.... Rheumy doesn't have hours on Friday and receptionist had to fax her about my 99.1 and rheumy faxed or called her back to tell her to tell me that I should go back to the ENT. What B.LLS!!!! I can't believe it. Thought she would be telling me to be in Rheumy's office Monday morning but that didn't happen .... > >Sharon > > > >From: " Canter" >Subject: Re: Re: quick question >Date: August 19, 2011 11:48:51 AM EDT >To: "asthma " <asthma > >I got my flu shot yesterday. I have been doing well today. I had a rough time with it last year because the seasonal vaccine was combined with the H1N1 vaccine. This year, so far, no problems with feeling bad. > > > >To: asthma >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:35 AM >Subject: Re: Re: quick question > > >Thanks again Jean. Sorry if you get this message twice. >My doctor is very sensitive to my concerns. She said she would give me a small test to see if I responded. Then I would only get 1/2 and we would wait 30 minutes before we administered the next 30 minutes if everything went okay. >I appreciate your prayers and thoughts! > > >hi . >I just responded to your email..I am the one with a dd who also got frequent resp. infections and who is so much better now after the pneuvax shot....ok...I just read this about your reaction to the flu shot....flu vaccines have thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative) in them..or they use to(not sure if they still do)...could it be you reacted to this? the pneumvax doesnt have this presvative..maybe something you can ask you dr. please note, although my dd who tested possitive to mercury on an allergy test she did not have any reaction to the flu vaccine..you may be more sensitive to things like this...just thought I mention the presvative in case you want to ck into. >Ill keep you in my thoughts and prayers...I know how hard it is to be sick all the time. jean > > > >> >> Thanks. I think the reason I'm a little shy is because I too had the flu >> shot this year and my body went into rejection mode. I'm a little skittish >> now. I used to have no trouble with shots or medication but after really >> getting sick, my body has become super sensitive to medication. > > > > >-- >Take care, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Thanks Madeline for your input. My regular doctor does not ever check your oxygen. I went to a walk-in Clinic a few months back and that's the first thing they did was to check my oxygen, then my blood pressure. I decided to order a pulse oximeter and am really glad I did. I tend to have a very fast pulse at times and the blood pressure medication takes care of that, but its good that I have something to check it. I have continued to do the breathing method. I have a oxygen concentrator that was given to me several years ago and at that time I was on oxygen 24/7. They used to come and check me every six months, but guess they think its a wasted trip. The only time that I am on oxygen in the day time is when something has triggered my asthma and I use it then. I wasn't even sleeping with it but discovered I slept better and I need to be alert in the daytime..lol That does not always work...lol I worry sometimes that I might be getting Alzheimer's but my kids forget things just like I do. Madeline, I really appreciate your friendship and you are so knowledgeable about this asthma. I am so blessed to have found this group. Hugs and thanks for keep an eye out for me. Lou Subject: Re: BreathingTo: "asthma " <asthma >Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 5:46 AM Hi Lou, Keep an eye on that. Use that pulse oximeter. The docs want you to keep your saturations above 92 on room air. 91 is ok but not great. Running 90 or below chronically will cause stress on the heart and brain. Sounds like you are a shallow breather. If you do the exercise several times a day (15 - 20) it will retrain your body to breathe deeper. I am so lucky that I don't have food allergies. I have enough trouble following dietary restrictions for the GERD and kidneys. I can't imagine having to worry about individual ingredients as well. XOXOXOXO Madeline To: asthma Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PMSubject: Breathing I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked. "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. Good breathing to all, Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 I don't know why it is either but my lungs just get inflamed and it is allergic asthma and my O2 doesn't drop either. im wondering if anyone could tell me why when im having an atack my O2 doesnt drop low? mayb cuz mine is cough variant AND Allergic asthma... does anyone know why thisis,,,,, > I will only be on here for a minute because I am still very sick. When I came home from er & hospital apparently I caught something that turned into a very bad throat (strep) and every single gland swelled. Thought after antibiotics for 3 days that I would be able to shake it but am just as bad. caught strep throat from me and was also put on the z pack and apparently germs are in apartment and can't shake it..... > >You won't believe this but when I complained to rheumy that I was still sick last week she told me to go to an ENT and I did but the day I saw ENT he told me that throat looked much better to him and he sent that note back to rheumy. Well, today I have 99.1 at 4pm and hope it doesn't go up more by tonight but infection is in mouth, glands, throat and chest again. I can't believe this.... Rheumy doesn't have hours on Friday and receptionist had to fax her about my 99.1 and rheumy faxed or called her back to tell her to tell me that I should go back to the ENT. What B.LLS!!!! I can't believe it. Thought she would be telling me to be in Rheumy's office Monday morning but that didn't happen .... > >Sharon > > > >From: " Canter " >Subject: Re: Re: quick question >Date: August 19, 2011 11:48:51 AM EDT >To: " asthma " <asthma > >I got my flu shot yesterday. I have been doing well today. I had a rough time with it last year because the seasonal vaccine was combined with the H1N1 vaccine. This year, so far, no problems with feeling bad. > > >From: Wolf >To: asthma >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:35 AM >Subject: Re: Re: quick question > > >Thanks again Jean. Sorry if you get this message twice. >My doctor is very sensitive to my concerns. She said she would give me a small test to see if I responded. Then I would only get 1/2 and we would wait 30 minutes before we administered the next 30 minutes if everything went okay. >I appreciate your prayers and thoughts! >On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:20 AM, gigles_1955 wrote: > >hi . >I just responded to your email..I am the one with a dd who also got frequent resp. infections and who is so much better now after the pneuvax shot....ok...I just read this about your reaction to the flu shot....flu vaccines have thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative) in them..or they use to(not sure if they still do)...could it be you reacted to this? the pneumvax doesnt have this presvative..maybe something you can ask you dr. please note, although my dd who tested possitive to mercury on an allergy test she did not have any reaction to the flu vaccine..you may be more sensitive to things like this...just thought I mention the presvative in case you want to ck into. >Ill keep you in my thoughts and prayers...I know how hard it is to be sick all the time. jean > > > >> >> Thanks. I think the reason I'm a little shy is because I too had the flu >> shot this year and my body went into rejection mode. I'm a little skittish >> now. I used to have no trouble with shots or medication but after really >> getting sick, my body has become super sensitive to medication. > > > > >-- >Take care, > > > > > > -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 WOW! I wonder if it was dangerous for mine to be as low as it was? Especially considering I drove myself there. I remember being barely able to stand sitting up in the waiting room chair...if you can call the position I was in sitting up. I was seriously tempted to lay down on the floor but I was afraid someone might become alarmed if I did. I think it might have been about 88 or 89 and was about 90 or 91 afterward, but it's been two years so I might be off some. Thanks for the info.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:53 PMSubject: Re: Breathing A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 You are always welcome Lou. I feel the same way about you and this group. I have learned so much here as well. I generally sleep with my oxygen as well. You are right. It does make a difference in how I feel. I very rarely need it during the day, only when I am sick or after a hard flare. Hugs.MadelineTo: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:23 PMSubject: Re: Breathing Thanks Madeline for your input. My regular doctor does not ever check your oxygen. I went to a walk-in Clinic a few months back and that's the first thing they did was to check my oxygen, then my blood pressure. I decided to order a pulse oximeter and am really glad I did. I tend to have a very fast pulse at times and the blood pressure medication takes care of that, but its good that I have something to check it. I have continued to do the breathing method. I have a oxygen concentrator that was given to me several years ago and at that time I was on oxygen 24/7. They used to come and check me every six months, but guess they think its a wasted trip. The only time that I am on oxygen in the day time is when something has triggered my asthma and I use it then. I wasn't even sleeping with it but discovered I slept better and I need to be alert in the daytime..lol That does not always work...lol I worry sometimes that I might be getting Alzheimer's but my kids forget things just like I do. Madeline, I really appreciate your friendship and you are so knowledgeable about this asthma. I am so blessed to have found this group. Hugs and thanks for keep an eye out for me. Lou Subject: Re: BreathingTo: "asthma " <asthma >Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 5:46 AM Hi Lou, Keep an eye on that. Use that pulse oximeter. The docs want you to keep your saturations above 92 on room air. 91 is ok but not great. Running 90 or below chronically will cause stress on the heart and brain. Sounds like you are a shallow breather. If you do the exercise several times a day (15 - 20) it will retrain your body to breathe deeper. I am so lucky that I don't have food allergies. I have enough trouble following dietary restrictions for the GERD and kidneys. I can't imagine having to worry about individual ingredients as well. XOXOXOXO Madeline To: asthma Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PMSubject: Breathing I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked. "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. Good breathing to all, Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Maybe you should have pushed the chairs together and had a lie down, and maybe they would have taken you more seriously, the worst that could have happened, I hope, would that you would have been a little embarrassed. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:42 AMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing WOW! I wonder if it was dangerous for mine to be as low as it was? Especially considering I drove myself there. I remember being barely able to stand sitting up in the waiting room chair...if you can call the position I was in sitting up. I was seriously tempted to lay down on the floor but I was afraid someone might become alarmed if I did. I think it might have been about 88 or 89 and was about 90 or 91 afterward, but it's been two years so I might be off some. Thanks for the info.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:53 PMSubject: Re: Breathing A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Based on my experience you were not in the best shape but your O2 level was not dangerous in the high 80's. Mine have registered in the mid 80's and they were concerned and did additional testing but were not even close to talking about ER or anything like that. They also said that the oximeters are not always accurate so they hesitate to overreact without additional information. WOW! I wonder if it was dangerous for mine to be as low as it was? Especially considering I drove myself there. I remember being barely able to stand sitting up in the waiting room chair...if you can call the position I was in sitting up. I was seriously tempted to lay down on the floor but I was afraid someone might become alarmed if I did. I think it might have been about 88 or 89 and was about 90 or 91 afterward, but it's been two years so I might be off some. Thanks for the info. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:53 PMSubject: Re: Breathing A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, " You're having an asthma attack! " and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally " all there " to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  " the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach. "  This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 What Madeline said is right on base. Its usually a late sign of asthma that is not controlled if the o2 sats drop significantly and it happens once your body can no longer compensate for the added stress of the asthma attack. If you are compensating, your sats will generally stay up. Peak flows are a different thing...they drop because they measure what you are putting out of your lungs..since your airways are constricted, you cannot put as much out as normal. Think of your airways as a hose....in a person without asthma picture a fire hose (they obviously arent that big but for the imagery Ill say fire hose). In an asthmatic they might be the size of a garden hose. During an attack the asthmatic persons airways might be the size of an air hose for a fish pump. Obviously they cant move as much air as the fire hose...so the amount of air flowing through them decreases. Once it gets where it needs to go, the air can flow through the air sacs at the end of the airways to the bloodstream...this is generally unimpeded which is why the sats dont decrease. I hope that makes sense to someone other than myself.... Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 makes sense.thanks Ann. What Madeline said is right on base. Its usually a late sign of asthma that is not controlled if the o2 sats drop significantly and it happens once your body can no longer compensate for the added stress of the asthma attack. If you are compensating, your sats will generally stay up. Peak flows are a different thing...they drop because they measure what you are putting out of your lungs..since your airways are constricted, you cannot put as much out as normal. Think of your airways as a hose....in a person without asthma picture a fire hose (they obviously arent that big but for the imagery Ill say fire hose). In an asthmatic they might be the size of a garden hose. During an attack the asthmatic persons airways might be the size of an air hose for a fish pump. Obviously they cant move as much air as the fire hose...so the amount of air flowing through them decreases. Once it gets where it needs to go, the air can flow through the air sacs at the end of the airways to the bloodstream...this is generally unimpeded which is why the sats dont decrease. I hope that makes sense to someone other than myself.... Ann -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 I was in the chair on the end that had a little end table next to it. I made use of the chair and the end table. That's all I'm gonna say about that.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:04 PMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing Maybe you should have pushed the chairs together and had a lie down, and maybe they would have taken you more seriously, the worst that could have happened, I hope, would that you would have been a little embarrassed. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:42 AMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing WOW! I wonder if it was dangerous for mine to be as low as it was? Especially considering I drove myself there. I remember being barely able to stand sitting up in the waiting room chair...if you can call the position I was in sitting up. I was seriously tempted to lay down on the floor but I was afraid someone might become alarmed if I did. I think it might have been about 88 or 89 and was about 90 or 91 afterward, but it's been two years so I might be off some. Thanks for the info.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:53 PMSubject: Re: Breathing A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 okay, thanks!SheriTo: asthma Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:06 PMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing Based on my experience you were not in the best shape but your O2 level was not dangerous in the high 80's. Mine have registered in the mid 80's and they were concerned and did additional testing but were not even close to talking about ER or anything like that. They also said that the oximeters are not always accurate so they hesitate to overreact without additional information. WOW! I wonder if it was dangerous for mine to be as low as it was? Especially considering I drove myself there. I remember being barely able to stand sitting up in the waiting room chair...if you can call the position I was in sitting up. I was seriously tempted to lay down on the floor but I was afraid someone might become alarmed if I did. I think it might have been about 88 or 89 and was about 90 or 91 afterward, but it's been two years so I might be off some. Thanks for the info. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:53 PMSubject: Re: Breathing A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 ,That is not necessarily the case. I have had O2 sats in the 93-94 range and had to refuse the ventilator. I have also had O2 sats in the high 70's when they weren't particularly worried (same ER - same ER doc). The O2 sats are an indicator, but by themselves they don't tell the whole picture. The thing to remember is to base your response on how you feel and your peak flow numbers. Your peak flow is the most valuable and accurate way to gauge the severity of an asthma flare. Even if you peak flow is not completely in the toilet but you feel worse than normal, you should listen to your body and be checked. It is always better safe than sorry.MadelineTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:07 AMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing okay, thanks!SheriTo: asthma Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:06 PMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing Based on my experience you were not in the best shape but your O2 level was not dangerous in the high 80's. Mine have registered in the mid 80's and they were concerned and did additional testing but were not even close to talking about ER or anything like that. They also said that the oximeters are not always accurate so they hesitate to overreact without additional information. WOW! I wonder if it was dangerous for mine to be as low as it was? Especially considering I drove myself there. I remember being barely able to stand sitting up in the waiting room chair...if you can call the position I was in sitting up. I was seriously tempted to lay down on the floor but I was afraid someone might become alarmed if I did. I think it might have been about 88 or 89 and was about 90 or 91 afterward, but it's been two years so I might be off some. Thanks for the info. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:53 PMSubject: Re: Breathing A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Oxygen level that drops into the 80s frequently or doesn't recover after a few minutes of rest (such as sitting) needs to be addressed. When it's that low, some of our body cells are deprived of the oxygen they require and begin to die. This causes damage to all our organs but is especially unwanted in its effect on the two most crucial - our brains and hearts. If it drops below 88 during activity, Medicare and other insurance will pay for supplemental oxygen use. You should probably request additional testing to find out how often and for how long at a time you have levels as low as you describe. Slats > > > > > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on > > me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I > > contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her > > preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, " You're having an asthma > > attack! " and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment > > and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't > > remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had > > no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not > > perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse > > seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I > > don't think I was mentally " all there " to comprehend what was going on. > > > > > > Sheri > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Violet Eudy <walkinglou2002@> > > > To: asthma > > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > > > Subject: Breathing > > > > > > > > >  > > > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. > > It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about > > breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through > > your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and > > then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if > > you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing > > technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your > > breathing. > > >  > > > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one > > paragraph that I liked.  " the muscular spasms, together with increased > > mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system > > during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate > > an asthma attach. "  This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing > > by Weil, M.D. > > >  > > > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I > > took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was > > not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate > > those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my > > opinion. > > > Good breathing to all, > > > Lou > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Take care, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 LOL>To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:04 AMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing I was in the chair on the end that had a little end table next to it. I made use of the chair and the end table. That's all I'm gonna say about that.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:04 PMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing Maybe you should have pushed the chairs together and had a lie down, and maybe they would have taken you more seriously, the worst that could have happened, I hope, would that you would have been a little embarrassed. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:42 AMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing WOW! I wonder if it was dangerous for mine to be as low as it was? Especially considering I drove myself there. I remember being barely able to stand sitting up in the waiting room chair...if you can call the position I was in sitting up. I was seriously tempted to lay down on the floor but I was afraid someone might become alarmed if I did. I think it might have been about 88 or 89 and was about 90 or 91 afterward, but it's been two years so I might be off some. Thanks for the info.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:53 PMSubject: Re: Breathing A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm new to having asthma and at this point it is quite mild compared to other people's. How do you know what your peak flow is?SheriTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:26 PMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing ,That is not necessarily the case. I have had O2 sats in the 93-94 range and had to refuse the ventilator. I have also had O2 sats in the high 70's when they weren't particularly worried (same ER - same ER doc). The O2 sats are an indicator, but by themselves they don't tell the whole picture. The thing to remember is to base your response on how you feel and your peak flow numbers. Your peak flow is the most valuable and accurate way to gauge the severity of an asthma flare. Even if you peak flow is not completely in the toilet but you feel worse than normal, you should listen to your body and be checked. It is always better safe than sorry.MadelineTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:07 AMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing okay, thanks!SheriTo: asthma Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 4:06 PMSubject: Re: Re: Breathing Based on my experience you were not in the best shape but your O2 level was not dangerous in the high 80's. Mine have registered in the mid 80's and they were concerned and did additional testing but were not even close to talking about ER or anything like that. They also said that the oximeters are not always accurate so they hesitate to overreact without additional information. WOW! I wonder if it was dangerous for mine to be as low as it was? Especially considering I drove myself there. I remember being barely able to stand sitting up in the waiting room chair...if you can call the position I was in sitting up. I was seriously tempted to lay down on the floor but I was afraid someone might become alarmed if I did. I think it might have been about 88 or 89 and was about 90 or 91 afterward, but it's been two years so I might be off some. Thanks for the info. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:53 PMSubject: Re: Breathing A normal healthy person has a blood oxygen level between 95 and 100 at rest. By and large it's mainly athletes who stay in training who get as high as 100. Medicare will pay for oxygen if the blood level drops below 88, and I suppose most insurance follows Medicare's lead. Slats > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on. > > Sheri > > > > ________________________________ > > To: asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > Subject: Breathing > > >  > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your breathing. >  > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing by Weil, M.D. >  > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my opinion. > Good breathing to all, > Lou > -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Slats,I believe that it was just when I had the flu two years ago. My asthma is not very bad at all unless I have a respiratory infection or if chemicals are sprayed into the air. As long as those two things don't happen, I am fine. Thanks for the info, though.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:14 PMSubject: Re: Breathing Oxygen level that drops into the 80s frequently or doesn't recover after a few minutes of rest (such as sitting) needs to be addressed. When it's that low, some of our body cells are deprived of the oxygen they require and begin to die. This causes damage to all our organs but is especially unwanted in its effect on the two most crucial - our brains and hearts. If it drops below 88 during activity, Medicare and other insurance will pay for supplemental oxygen use. You should probably request additional testing to find out how often and for how long at a time you have levels as low as you describe. Slats > > > > > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on > > me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I > > contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her > > preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma > > attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment > > and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't > > remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had > > no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not > > perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse > > seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I > > don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on. > > > > > > Sheri > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Violet Eudy <walkinglou2002@> > > > To: asthma > > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM > > > Subject: Breathing > > > > > > > > >  > > > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called. > > It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about > > breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through > > your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and > > then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if > > you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing > > technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your > > breathing. > > >  > > > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one > > paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased > > mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system > > during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate > > an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing > > by Weil, M.D. > > >  > > > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I > > took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was > > not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate > > those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my > > opinion. > > > Good breathing to all, > > > Lou > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Take care, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 When I was in the hospital and they kept checking my oxygen level it was almost 100% and feel that they are overlooking something. When I attempt to fall asleep, just as my lungs and chest start to relax is when I will get all of the pains in my chest and what went through my mind is that I am not taking in the same amount of oxygen as when I am sitting or standing up.SharonFrom:slats222000 Subject: Re: BreathingDate:August 21, 2011 2:14:59 PM EDTTo:asthma Oxygen level that drops into the 80s frequently or doesn't recover after a few minutes of rest (such as sitting) needs to be addressed. When it's that low, some of our body cells are deprived of the oxygen they require and begin to die. This causes damage to all our organs but is especially unwanted in its effect on the two most crucial - our brains and hearts. If it drops below 88 during activity, Medicare and other insurance will pay for supplemental oxygen use.You should probably request additional testing to find out how often and for how long at a time you have levels as low as you describe.Slats > > >> > > I'm curious what the number is supposed to be? I've only had one used on> > me once. I dragged myself to the doctor's office feeling horrible after I> > contracted influenza. When the first nurse came in and was doing her> > preliminary checks, she suddenly exclaimed, "You're having an asthma> > attack!" and rushed out of the room. She returned with a breathing treatment> > and a finger oxygen meter thingee. The number was in the 80s, but I don't> > remember the exact number. It went up after the breathing treatment. I had> > no idea that I was having an asthma attack until she told me. I was not> > perceiving any asthma symptoms at all, just the miserable flu. The nurse> > seemed to be alarmed but I was so out of it and lethargic from the flu I> > don't think I was mentally "all there" to comprehend what was going on.> > >> > > Sheri> > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > > From: Violet Eudy <walkinglou2002@>> > > To: asthma > > > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 PM> > > Subject: Breathing> > >> > >> > > Â> > > I bought an oxygen checker. I can't think what it is really called.Â> > It's getting late for my brain. lol.. I remembered reading about> > breathing and Madeline has also told us how to breathe. Breathe through> > your nose as much as you can and hold it for at least to the count of 8 and> > then put you tongue to your top teeth and blow it out. Making a noise if> > you like. I checked my oxygen...it was 91 so I tried the breathing> > technique and my oxygen came up to 95 so that is a good way to work on your> > breathing.> > > Â> > > I have been researching healthy eating and allergies This is one> > paragraph that I liked.  "the muscular spasms, together with increased> > mucus, are brought on by histamine produced by the body's immune system> > during an allergic response, therefore any kind of allergen can precipitate> > an asthma attach." This paragraph came from the book Spontaneous Healing> > by Weil, M.D.> > > Â> > > I have always believed my allergies were the cause of an asthma attach. I> > took allergy shots for almost three years and worked great, except it was> > not for food allergies. I am always aware of what I eat and try to isolate> > those that bother me. I know this is long but just needed to express my> > opinion.> > > Good breathing to all,> > > Lou> > >> >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > Take care,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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