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In a message dated 1/2/05 9:34:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,

anonymous_animus@... writes:

If thoughts could cause

earthquakes or directly disrupt the weather

as for the weather - there was an americab indian called lame deer who

demonstrated under observation that he cld cause rain to fall n i have a frnd

rod

welles who pers witnessed another rainmaker. then there is a video of a

malaysian causing paper to burn by concentrating on it. the film is one of a

series

done by a reputable woman who has filmed all kinds of anthropological studies.

met her 30 yrs ago, name escapes me, but she appears in sounds true catalogs.

there is no question that thought can affect matter, but earthquakes

...............?

studies have been made statistically that crime goes down in places where

grps are known to meditate.

so i think we need to keep the books open on this one..........

i personally have witnessed a hindu swami, dadaji, a saintly yogi, who asked

walter n me to bring a jar of tap water to a meeting. we filled 2 mayo jars n

br them, not having a clue. in a private sess, he prayed over it, held it in

his hands. did not open it! the outside bec moist. wh we opened our jars, each

water had a different lovely fragrance n taste.

this happ in calif n wh he came east to ct, he did it again. the water was

for healing. his gift is known as padmaganda n gives credence to the 'odor of

sanctity' n mebbe the miracle of jesus n water into wine............i had to

rearrange the furniture in my belief system, let me tell u!

all i cn say is that not only have i exper this but if brewster is still

lurking on j-f, he cn attest to this.

if u suspect hypnotism, don't. wh we brought the jars home, other people cld

smell them too n the fragrance lasted for weeks. the water cld be sipped.

alas dadaji is now gone n so is walter, but brewster n i are still around to

swear to the truth of wh i am relating conc dadaji.

he's the one who said 'god is making love in yr heartbeat 24 hours a day.I

quoted this to a client yrs ago. I was doing her cht in the basement of a J

analyst's house. No sooner had I said this but the pump went on. She was taping

the session n called me latr to say that the pump sounding like a heartbeat

continued fr then on! :]

i have sev bks printed in india ab him. he was married n had a toystore in

calcutta. he was anti-guru guru w/a great sense of humor. he told us THERE IS

ONLY ONE TRUE GURU; IT IS THE SELF [i.e. div guest]. jung wld have loved him for

that. at that center, he said, we 'know' evthing, wh is why wisdom comes in

aha!s - in-tuition. we re-cognize. it occurs to me what a blessing it is that

time for us comes in minutes n rain in drops instead of one big SPLAT! [or

eternity!]

a very lovable n dear man.

so remember - always keep an open mind n a gd crap detector.

ps i remember telling him in ct that i was going to have 6 remaining teeth

pulled the next day. i went to the dentist, dr. person, n he pulled them. i

hardly bled. he gave me painkillers.I went home, felt NO pain, just a slight

fizzing like ginger ale, nxt day, back to dentist, gums healed! dr p cldn't

believe

it, called nurse n walter in to witness it. i was grateful n remember dadaji

winking the day before.

evthing i am writing is the truth.

there's a lot we still don't know. an indian physicist wrote that the

greatest scientific discov of the 20th cent was that science itself can be

fallible!

gotta go

much love

ao

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 4:04:08 PM Central Standard Time,

IonaDove@... writes:

>there is no question that thought can affect matter, but earthquakes

>..............?

Has anybody checked the Princeton Consciousness Study or whatever it's

called to see what effects, if any, were recorded?

Namasté

Sam in Texas §(ô¿ô)§

Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

~mrantho

Minds are like parachutes; they only function when open. - Sir Dewar

A closed mind is a good thing to lose.

Keep an open mind and a great crap detector. - A.O. Howell

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre

minds. - Albert Einstein

It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and expose

lies. - Noam Chomsky

If you don’t use your mind, someone else will. - Author Unknown

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 6:17:33 PM Central Standard Time,

artemis.artemis@... writes:

>I just had a look, they don't seem to mention the tsunami at all.

I found it. I have trouble interpreting their data even with their

explanations but it appears that the quake itself didn't generate much activity,

I

suppose because quakes are not particularly unusual even if they're pretty

destructive. The tsunami, though, seems to have generated some interesting

curves.

What I find most interesting, ever since I first checked it out on 9/11, is

that activity almost always precedes an event as well as during and following

it.

Namasté

Sam in Texas §(ô¿ô)§

Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

~mrantho

Minds are like parachutes; they only function when open. - Sir Dewar

A closed mind is a good thing to lose.

Keep an open mind and a great crap detector. - A.O. Howell

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre

minds. - Albert Einstein

It is the responsibility of intellectuals to speak the truth and expose

lies. - Noam Chomsky

If you don’t use your mind, someone else will.

- Author Unknown

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Hello Sam,

> Has anybody checked the Princeton Consciousness Study or whatever it's

> called to see what effects, if any, were recorded?

>

I just had a look, they don't seem to mention the tsunami at all.

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

Artemis

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In a message dated 1/4/2005 5:08:22 AM Central Standard Time,

artemis.artemis@... writes:

>> What I find most interesting, ever since I first checked it out on 9/11,

>>is that activity almost always precedes an event as well as during and

>>following it.

>>

>I would interprete that as nothing comes " out of the blue " ...

I'd agree with you on that. " Sensitive " people were complaining about

" strange energies " before the occurrence though, as might be surmised, none had

any idea what they presaged.

Namasté

Sam

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> What I find most interesting, ever since I first checked it out on 9/11,

is that activity almost always precedes >an event as well as during and

following it.

>

I would interprete that as nothing comes " out of the blue " ...

Artemis

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Dear Alice,

You could have helped me out on Jung-life, where I am afraid much

headscratching, and I image wonder about my sanity still lurks. It really does

not bother me, and I stick to my experiences also.( how wonderful to be old

enough to speak truth and not worry about the reaction at all.)

I know you speak the truth.Ram Dass told many similar stories. I loved to hear

him preach and miss him.

Toni

Re: thought and matter+

In a message dated 1/2/05 9:34:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,

anonymous_animus@... writes:

If thoughts could cause

earthquakes or directly disrupt the weather

as for the weather - there was an americab indian called lame deer who

demonstrated under observation that he cld cause rain to fall n i have a frnd

rod

welles who pers witnessed another rainmaker. then there is a video of a

malaysian causing paper to burn by concentrating on it. the film is one of a

series

done by a reputable woman who has filmed all kinds of anthropological studies.

met her 30 yrs ago, name escapes me, but she appears in sounds true catalogs.

there is no question that thought can affect matter, but earthquakes

..............?

studies have been made statistically that crime goes down in places where

grps are known to meditate.

so i think we need to keep the books open on this one..........

i personally have witnessed a hindu swami, dadaji, a saintly yogi, who asked

walter n me to bring a jar of tap water to a meeting. we filled 2 mayo jars n

br them, not having a clue. in a private sess, he prayed over it, held it in

his hands. did not open it! the outside bec moist. wh we opened our jars, each

water had a different lovely fragrance n taste.

this happ in calif n wh he came east to ct, he did it again. the water was

for healing. his gift is known as padmaganda n gives credence to the 'odor of

sanctity' n mebbe the miracle of jesus n water into wine............i had to

rearrange the furniture in my belief system, let me tell u!

all i cn say is that not only have i exper this but if brewster is still

lurking on j-f, he cn attest to this.

if u suspect hypnotism, don't. wh we brought the jars home, other people cld

smell them too n the fragrance lasted for weeks. the water cld be sipped.

alas dadaji is now gone n so is walter, but brewster n i are still around to

swear to the truth of wh i am relating conc dadaji.

he's the one who said 'god is making love in yr heartbeat 24 hours a day.I

quoted this to a client yrs ago. I was doing her cht in the basement of a J

analyst's house. No sooner had I said this but the pump went on. She was

taping

the session n called me latr to say that the pump sounding like a heartbeat

continued fr then on! :]

i have sev bks printed in india ab him. he was married n had a toystore in

calcutta. he was anti-guru guru w/a great sense of humor. he told us THERE IS

ONLY ONE TRUE GURU; IT IS THE SELF [i.e. div guest]. jung wld have loved him

for

that. at that center, he said, we 'know' evthing, wh is why wisdom comes in

aha!s - in-tuition. we re-cognize. it occurs to me what a blessing it is that

time for us comes in minutes n rain in drops instead of one big SPLAT! [or

eternity!]

a very lovable n dear man.

so remember - always keep an open mind n a gd crap detector.

ps i remember telling him in ct that i was going to have 6 remaining teeth

pulled the next day. i went to the dentist, dr. person, n he pulled them. i

hardly bled. he gave me painkillers.I went home, felt NO pain, just a slight

fizzing like ginger ale, nxt day, back to dentist, gums healed! dr p cldn't

believe

it, called nurse n walter in to witness it. i was grateful n remember dadaji

winking the day before.

evthing i am writing is the truth.

there's a lot we still don't know. an indian physicist wrote that the

greatest scientific discov of the 20th cent was that science itself can be

fallible!

gotta go

much love

ao

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It is always so tempting to assign some kind of human cause to major

disasters -- be it government conspiracies or negative thinking. It's

much more reassuring than to think that geologic forces could could

combine with population densities and do a number like that on us at any

time, outside of our control.

(We on the U.S. West Coast, who have considerable familiarity with the

effects of plate tectonics, also have some peculiar ideas about

earthquake weather and other such signs which would give us a handle on

The Next Big One.)

Marilyn

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