Re: - GERD testing

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, The test to have done is a 24 hour ph study. It is uncomfortable but not painful. They insert a wire that is lined with electrodes through your nose and down your esophagus. You also wear an electronic device that you record when you eat, lay down, eat, take meds, cough, and have shortness of breath. They combine your input with the input from the wire to tell when you have acid and what type of acid it is. MadelineTo: asthma Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:48 PMSubject: Re: peppermint

I had an endoscopy and he said I might have it because my throat was red but the medication for it made me quite ill.

So just wondering how I would know. It would be great to be able to change some things in my diet and make this all go away.

,I don't know much about it other than my doc told me it exists. That is why it is so important to have the proper testing done. From what I understand it is stomach enzymes escaping the stomach other than the acid. It can cause all the same esophageal damage and lung irritation as the acid. I really have no idea how it works.

Madeline

To: asthma

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:41 PMSubject: Re: peppermint

Interestsing Madeline. I have never heard of non-acid reflux. Do you know anything about it?2011/8/11 piaybyear

You are so right Madeline. I have been having the worst acid reflux for about a year now. Anyhow went to see my gastro and after listening to my complaints he told me to take two nexiums (40mg.). At first when he told me a month or so earlier I refused to and told me that I was not looking for early onset of alzheimers. Also the other side effect is bones and I am not looking for additional problems. I already have osteoporosis from all the prednisone I've been on. Have been taking it daily for 14 1/2 yrs. already and hopefully will be on it for the rest of my life. Anyhow, I broke down with that second visit and took two nexiums the next day. Well, I had the worst stomach cramps and diarrhea and when I finally called gastro's office I was told to only take one pill a day. Meanwhile, when I told my rheumy this she told me exactly what you said and also said to me that

Sjogren's dries out the mucus membranes thereby causing the stomach to sometimes have no acid in it because of the severe dryness and to never take more than the 40mg. a day. Only reason why I'm taking it is because of the damage done to my esophagus from the methotrexate and prednisone.

By my not eating any fattening foods and cutting out so many important foods including certain fruits such as blueberries and strawberries, I am losing out on many vitamins. That is why I have lost all that weight. Another reason is because I had stopped exercising or hardly exercised in this past year because it's been either the acid reflux, the sjogren's/lupus, the asthma or something else and now I'm paying the price for it. Today I did exercise and then did the weights for 20min. and a little later intend to use the treadmill. Wish I could do this on a daily basis because if I do then I could rebuild my muscles.

Because of the acid reflux I stopped eating pasta w/tomato sauce every night, stopped using any dressing or using 1/2 teaspoon of extra virgin olive oil in salad, stopped drinking coffee and what I miss the most - haven't gone near a good old fashioned chocolate cupcake or for that matter a piece of cake and oh do I miss food.... Oh .. also because of my liver problems and sjogren's/lupus I can't go near steak, lambchops or any other good meats.

Take care,Sharon

From:"Madeline Ingram"

Subject:

Re: peppermintDate:

August 11, 2011 6:01:38 AM EDT

To:"asthma " <asthma >

They suspected it because of the severity of some of my asthma symptoms. So, I underwent the 24 hour ph study and a scope. The results were off the charts. I have severe acidic reflux. I was shocked, but the gastro said that for every person that has "heartburn" there is someone who doesn't. He and my pulmo both also said 3/4 of asthma sufferers have GERD. I have come to realize I do have some symptoms. I will get the hiccups from time to time. I will also get a little late night nausea. I never associated hiccups with acid before, but if I go take a Rolaids they will go away. My gastro said it is very important to have the ph study done because there are two types of reflux. Acid and non-acid. He said the meds for the acid reflux (antacids, nexium, protonix, prilosec, vinegar, etc.) will make the non-acid reflux worse.

Madeline

To: asthma

Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:59 PMSubject: Re: peppermint

If you don't have symptoms of GERD how do you know you have it?They suspected I had it but I couldn't take the medication and I think the fact that my stomach wasn't dissolving my coatings for my medication said I had low acid. The doctors wanted to bring that up again but I wouldn't go there again.

Hi all. I was informed yesterday by my doc that peppermint is a GERD trigger. She said peppermint tea should be fine, but to avoid peppermints. Who knew? I have a hard time with the GERD as I don't ever feel it. It just causes damage and upsets my asthma. Lovely.

Madeline-- Take care,

-- Take care,

-- Take care,

[Guest guest]

Thanks Madeline;Does sound quite uncomfortable. I think I will skip this one since I read that if you have asymptomatic gerd its treatment will not improve your asthma. 

 

, The test to have done is a 24 hour ph study.  It is uncomfortable but not painful.  They insert a wire that is lined with electrodes through your nose and down your esophagus.  You also wear an electronic device that you record when you eat, lay down, eat, take meds, cough, and have shortness of breath.  They combine your input with the input from the wire to tell when you have acid and what type of acid it is.  

Madeline

To: asthma

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:48 PMSubject: Re: peppermint

 

I had an endoscopy and he said I might have it because my throat was red but the medication for it made me quite ill.

So just wondering how I would know. It would be great to be able to change some things in my diet and make this all go away. 

 

,I don't know much about it other than my doc told me it exists.  That is why it is so important to have the proper testing done.  From what I understand it is stomach enzymes escaping the stomach other than the acid.  It can cause all the same esophageal damage and lung irritation as the acid.  I really have no idea how it works.

Madeline

To: asthma

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:41 PMSubject: Re: peppermint

 

Interestsing Madeline. I have never heard of non-acid reflux. Do you know anything about it?2011/8/11 piaybyear

 

You are so right Madeline.  I have been having the worst acid reflux for about a year now. Anyhow went to see my gastro and after listening to my complaints he told me to take two nexiums (40mg.).  At first when he told me a month or so earlier I refused to and told me that I was not looking for early onset of alzheimers.  Also the other side effect is bones and I am not looking for additional problems. I already have osteoporosis from all the prednisone I've been on.  Have been taking it daily for 14 1/2 yrs. already and hopefully will be on it for the rest of my life.  Anyhow, I broke down with that second visit and took two nexiums the next day.  Well, I had the worst stomach cramps and diarrhea and when I finally called gastro's office I was told to only take one pill a day.   Meanwhile, when I told my rheumy this she told me exactly what you said and also said to me that

Sjogren's dries out the mucus membranes thereby causing the stomach to sometimes have no acid in it because of the severe dryness and to never take more than the 40mg. a day.  Only reason why I'm taking it is because of the damage done to my esophagus from the methotrexate and prednisone.  

By my not eating any fattening foods and cutting out so many important foods including  certain fruits such as blueberries and strawberries, I am losing out on many vitamins.  That is why I have lost all that weight.  Another reason is because I had stopped exercising or hardly exercised in this past year because it's been either the acid reflux, the sjogren's/lupus, the asthma or something else and now I'm paying the price for it.  Today I did exercise and then did the weights for 20min.  and a little later intend to use the treadmill.  Wish I could do this on a daily basis because if I do then I could rebuild my muscles.  

Because of the acid reflux I stopped eating pasta w/tomato sauce every night, stopped using any dressing or using 1/2 teaspoon of extra virgin olive oil in salad, stopped drinking coffee and what I miss the most - haven't gone near a good old fashioned chocolate cupcake or for that matter a piece of cake and oh do I miss food....   Oh .. also because of my liver problems and sjogren's/lupus I can't go near steak, lambchops or any other good meats.  

Take care,Sharon

Subject:

Re: peppermintDate:

August 11, 2011 6:01:38 AM EDT

To: " asthma " <asthma >

They suspected it because of the severity of some of my asthma symptoms.  So, I underwent the 24 hour ph study and a scope.  The results were off the charts.  I have severe acidic reflux.  I was shocked, but the gastro said that for every person that has " heartburn " there is someone who doesn't.  He and my pulmo both also said 3/4 of asthma sufferers have GERD.  I have come to realize I do have some symptoms.  I will get the hiccups from time to time.  I will also get a little late night nausea.  I never associated hiccups with acid before, but if I go take a Rolaids they will go away.  My gastro said it is very important to have the ph study done because there are two types of reflux.  Acid and non-acid.  He said the meds for the acid reflux (antacids, nexium, protonix, prilosec, vinegar, etc.)  will make the non-acid reflux worse.  

Madeline

From:  Wolf

To: asthma

Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:59 PMSubject: Re: peppermint 

If you don't have symptoms of GERD how do you know you have it?They suspected I had it but I couldn't take the medication and I think the fact that my stomach wasn't dissolving my coatings for my medication said I had low acid. The doctors wanted to bring that up again but I wouldn't go there again.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Madeline Ingram  wrote:

 

Hi all.  I was informed yesterday by my doc that peppermint is a GERD trigger.  She said peppermint tea should be fine, but to avoid peppermints.  Who knew?  I have a hard time with the GERD as I don't ever feel it.  It just causes damage and upsets my asthma.  Lovely.

Madeline-- Take care,

-- Take care,

-- Take care,

-- Take care,

[Guest guest]

I had this 24 hour test about 6 weeks ago. It is quite endurable and gives very clear and usable information. Mike McBrideLive without pretending, love without depending, listen without defending and speak without offending. Anon.To: asthma Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:47 PMSubject: Re: - GERD testing

Thanks Madeline;Does sound quite uncomfortable. I think I will skip this one since I read that if you have asymptomatic gerd its treatment will not improve your asthma.

, The test to have done is a 24 hour ph study. It is uncomfortable but not painful. They insert a wire that is lined with electrodes through your nose and down your esophagus. You also wear an electronic device that you record when you eat, lay down, eat, take meds, cough, and have shortness of breath. They combine your input with the input from the wire to tell when you have acid and what type of acid it is.

Madeline

To: asthma

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:48 PMSubject: Re: peppermint

I had an endoscopy and he said I might have it because my throat was red but the medication for it made me quite ill.

So just wondering how I would know. It would be great to be able to change some things in my diet and make this all go away.

,I don't know much about it other than my doc told me it exists. That is why it is so important to have the proper testing done. From what I understand it is stomach enzymes escaping the stomach other than the acid. It can cause all the same esophageal damage and lung irritation as the acid. I really have no idea how it works.

Madeline

To: asthma

Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:41 PMSubject: Re: peppermint

Interestsing Madeline. I have never heard of non-acid reflux. Do you know anything about it?2011/8/11 piaybyear

You are so right Madeline. I have been having the worst acid reflux for about a year now. Anyhow went to see my gastro and after listening to my complaints he told me to take two nexiums (40mg.). At first when he told me a month or so earlier I refused to and told me that I was not looking for early onset of alzheimers. Also the other side effect is bones and I am not looking for additional problems. I already have osteoporosis from all the prednisone I've been on. Have been taking it daily for 14 1/2 yrs. already and hopefully will be on it for the rest of my life. Anyhow, I broke down with that second visit and took two nexiums the next day. Well, I had the worst stomach cramps and diarrhea and when I finally called gastro's office I was told to only take one pill a day. Meanwhile, when I told my rheumy this she told me exactly what you said and also said to me that

Sjogren's dries out the mucus membranes thereby causing the stomach to sometimes have no acid in it because of the severe dryness and to never take more than the 40mg. a day. Only reason why I'm taking it is because of the damage done to my esophagus from the methotrexate and prednisone.

By my not eating any fattening foods and cutting out so many important foods including certain fruits such as blueberries and strawberries, I am losing out on many vitamins. That is why I have lost all that weight. Another reason is because I had stopped exercising or hardly exercised in this past year because it's been either the acid reflux, the sjogren's/lupus, the asthma or something else and now I'm paying the price for it. Today I did exercise and then did the weights for 20min. and a little later intend to use the treadmill. Wish I could do this on a daily basis because if I do then I could rebuild my muscles.

Because of the acid reflux I stopped eating pasta w/tomato sauce every night, stopped using any dressing or using 1/2 teaspoon of extra virgin olive oil in salad, stopped drinking coffee and what I miss the most - haven't gone near a good old fashioned chocolate cupcake or for that matter a piece of cake and oh do I miss food.... Oh .. also because of my liver problems and sjogren's/lupus I can't go near steak, lambchops or any other good meats.

Take care,Sharon

From:"Madeline Ingram"

Subject:

Re: peppermintDate:

August 11, 2011 6:01:38 AM EDT

To:"asthma " <asthma >

They suspected it because of the severity of some of my asthma symptoms. So, I underwent the 24 hour ph study and a scope. The results were off the charts. I have severe acidic reflux. I was shocked, but the gastro said that for every person that has "heartburn" there is someone who doesn't. He and my pulmo both also said 3/4 of asthma sufferers have GERD. I have come to realize I do have some symptoms. I will get the hiccups from time to time. I will also get a little late night nausea. I never associated hiccups with acid before, but if I go take a Rolaids they will go away. My gastro said it is very important to have the ph study done because there are two types of reflux. Acid and non-acid. He said the meds for the acid reflux (antacids, nexium, protonix, prilosec, vinegar, etc.) will make the non-acid reflux worse.

Madeline

To: asthma

Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:59 PMSubject: Re: peppermint

If you don't have symptoms of GERD how do you know you have it?They suspected I had it but I couldn't take the medication and I think the fact that my stomach wasn't dissolving my coatings for my medication said I had low acid. The doctors wanted to bring that up again but I wouldn't go there again.

Hi all. I was informed yesterday by my doc that peppermint is a GERD trigger. She said peppermint tea should be fine, but to avoid peppermints. Who knew? I have a hard time with the GERD as I don't ever feel it. It just causes damage and upsets my asthma. Lovely.

Madeline-- Take care,

-- Take care,

-- Take care,

-- Take care,