Re: Fears n a small sugg

[Guest guest]

Many probs of ruffled feathers is simply to wait and reread wh one has

written n pretend u are the other person reading it.

I think, Toni, u wld really enjoy reading a life of Buddha. He was a

remarkable practical teacher and one of the few avatars not to be killed for his

gifts

to the world. For me, also, there is something profoundly dignified and

peaceful about the seated Buddha icon. I have such a Buddha in the grotto that

came

w/Rosecroft, given to me by a Catholic Buddhist Jungian analyst. The statue

is one holding a lamp - a light to the world. There is absolutely NOTHING in

his teaching that could offend a person of any persuasion.

I have met the Dalai Lama in person in Dharamsala, India, n he wanted to have

his picture taken holding Woodstock, my ish walking stick. I have met a

gd many lamas in my life n have found one thing they all have in common: they

are merry! They are strong, cheerful, and wise. What they KNOW makes them

joyous. The DL is everything he's cracked up to be - warm, strong, n kind.

Walter

had gashed his forehead on an awning n when the DL saw this, he asked how it

had happened. W expl n then the DL said: " Well, that will help remind u of yr

visit to Dharmsala! " as if meeting HIM were of little consequence.

His remark: My only religion is kindness, says it all.

------------------

Now ab fears, I know that Toni is right, but I confess I have a few. I fear

becoming a 'boiden' to my kids in my old age or that this prob of rememb NAMES!

will get worse, etc. I worry ab humanity, the environment, the endless wars n

my inadequacy to solve the probs of the world etc. So I have not mastered

fear at the ego level. One thing tho, I do not fear my Divine Guest, wh is the

closest I cn come to knowing the mysterium bec I feel the Life-giving Love that

is the source of all love n beauty n true goodness.

Dorothy L. Sayers, detective story writer, fr of the Inkblots Tolkien et al

at Oxford, was also a theologian n wrote something that knocked my socks off:

" The fires of hell are the flames of God's Love rejected! "

My Grandpa King, a clergyman n my image of God as a four yr old, always

referred to God as the " dear Lord " . My Grandfather wrote 28 books, including a

longtime bestseller: THE CONQUEST OF FEAR. His name was Basil King. I adored

him.

He died wh I was 5 n I was far awy in Portugal.

Time for tea.

love, what else:]!

ao

[Guest guest]

ao! your grand is here on the internet! download him at:

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/9944

The Conquest of Fear by Basil King

CONTENTS

INTRODUCTION

I. FEAR AND THE LIFE-PRINCIPLE

II. THE LIFE-PRINCIPLE AND GOD

III. GOD AND HIS SELF-EXPRESSION

IV. GOD'S SELF-EXPRESSION AND THE MIND OF TO-DAY

V. THE MIND OF TO-DAY AND THE WORLD AS IT IS

VI. THE WORLD AS IT IS AND THE FALSE GOD OF FEAR

VII. THE FALSE GOD OF FEAR AND THE FEAR OF DEATH

VIII. THE FEAR OF DEATH AND ABUNDANCE OF LIFE

end:

In the end we come back to that, the eternal struggle whereby that

which is unlike God becomes more and more like Him. In watching the

process, and taking part in it, there is, when all is said and done,

a sense of glorious striving and success. With each generation some

veil which hid the Creator from the creature is torn forever aside.

God, who is always here, is seen a little more clearly by each

generation as being; here. God, who ever since His sun first rose

and His rain first fell has been making Himself known to us, is by

each generation a little better understood. God, whom we have tried

to lock up in churches or banish to Sundays and special holy days,

is breaking through all our prohibitions, growing more and more a

force in our homes and our schools, in our shops and our factories,

in our offices and our banks,in our embassies, congresses,

parliaments, and seats of government. Into His light we advance

slowly, unwillingly, driven by our pain; but we advance.

The further we advance the more we perceive of power. The more we

perceive of power the more we are freed from fear. The more we are

freed from fear the more exultantly we feel our abundance of life.

The more exultantly we feel our abundance of life the more we reject

death in any of its forms. And the more we reject death in any of

its forms the more we reflect that Holy Ghost of Life which urges us

on from conquest to conquest, from strength to strength, to the

fulfilling of ourselves.

!!!

Also: mike asks that people spread the word about this page:

Ashoka the eDharma university

http://www.ashokaedu.net/index.htm

x's

deb

[Guest guest]

Dear Alice,

If " ruffled feathers " pertain to me, I worded my answer wrongly. You have never

so far ruffled something that didn't need ruffling. But on this I am not sure

what you refer to.

I studied Buddhism years ago and went to many temples in Japan where services

were held. I also loved Alan Watts' take .

Alice, on my desk sits a little Buddha. Its been there a long time. I have read

the life of Buddha and am very attracted to much of what he has said. I would

have loved the meeting with the Dali Lama, and have read 2 of his books.

I am not sure how you came up with the idea that I hadn't read ir treasured

Buddhism. I do not meditate as they do. Mine is a more western approach. But who

could ever ignore Buddhism or Buddha. My sentiment was that I had found my path

and the way to go. Buddha was right abouit many things in my mind, but his idea

of G-d 9which i don't think he ever considered) is not mine.

About FEAR, I have learned a lot in the last few years, although I was always an

optomist about the earth and all that is in it. If one knows that G-d's love

resides in one, there can be nothing to fear. What can happen once one has

accepted hiswill. Like you I think reincarnation is a great idea. I don't think

anything can happen to me thaqt I didn't somehow plan, or need.

Fear of death was taken away as with many of us, when I nearly died and found

the most wonderful peace in my soul.

I have to take Rray to the Doctor. Will write the next instalment when I get

home.

Re: Fears n a small sugg

Many probs of ruffled feathers is simply to wait and reread wh one has

written n pretend u are the other person reading it.

I think, Toni, u wld really enjoy reading a life of Buddha. He was a

remarkable practical teacher and one of the few avatars not to be killed for

his gifts

to the world. For me, also, there is something profoundly dignified and

peaceful about the seated Buddha icon. I have such a Buddha in the grotto that

came

w/Rosecroft, given to me by a Catholic Buddhist Jungian analyst. The statue

is one holding a lamp - a light to the world. There is absolutely NOTHING in

his teaching that could offend a person of any persuasion.

I have met the Dalai Lama in person in Dharamsala, India, n he wanted to have

his picture taken holding Woodstock, my ish walking stick. I have met a

gd many lamas in my life n have found one thing they all have in common: they

are merry! They are strong, cheerful, and wise. What they KNOW makes them

joyous. The DL is everything he's cracked up to be - warm, strong, n kind.

Walter

had gashed his forehead on an awning n when the DL saw this, he asked how it

had happened. W expl n then the DL said: " Well, that will help remind u of yr

visit to Dharmsala! " as if meeting HIM were of little consequence.

His remark: My only religion is kindness, says it all.

------------------

Now ab fears, I know that Toni is right, but I confess I have a few. I fear

becoming a 'boiden' to my kids in my old age or that this prob of rememb

NAMES!

will get worse, etc. I worry ab humanity, the environment, the endless wars n

my inadequacy to solve the probs of the world etc. So I have not mastered

fear at the ego level. One thing tho, I do not fear my Divine Guest, wh is the

closest I cn come to knowing the mysterium bec I feel the Life-giving Love

that

is the source of all love n beauty n true goodness.

Dorothy L. Sayers, detective story writer, fr of the Inkblots Tolkien et al

at Oxford, was also a theologian n wrote something that knocked my socks off:

" The fires of hell are the flames of God's Love rejected! "

My Grandpa King, a clergyman n my image of God as a four yr old, always

referred to God as the " dear Lord " . My Grandfather wrote 28 books, including a

longtime bestseller: THE CONQUEST OF FEAR. His name was Basil King. I adored

him.

He died wh I was 5 n I was far awy in Portugal.

Time for tea.

love, what else:]!

ao

[Guest guest]

Dear Alice,

you wrote:

" Now ab fears, I know that Toni is right, but I confess I have a few. I fear

becoming a 'boiden' to my kids in my old age or that this prob of rememb NAMES!

will get worse, etc. I worry ab humanity, the environment, the endless wars n

my inadequacy to solve the probs of the world etc. So I have not mastered

fear at the ego level. One thing tho, I do not fear my Divine Guest, wh is the

closest I cn come to knowing the mysterium bec I feel the Life-giving Love that

is the source of all love n beauty n true goodness.

Like everyone else, I had a lot of things to worry about. Family problems,work

problems, spiritual problems and then the state of the world and my remaining

years.. I could always talk myself into a little bit of worry until the saying; "

don't just stand there, Worry " became part of me.

It is has been not yet completely successful battle within me, to have let

everything just go. But, if one thinks about those one loves, we have to believe

G-d loves them as much and that they have a path to walk and lessons to learn

that no one else can do for them.

Alice, I do understand the niggling worry about being a burden to one's

children. But I solved that for myself, finally by acknowledging that if I do

become their burden, it is because it must be so for their growth as well as

mine. I can't protect them from the side effects of love and family. And as I

stepped up to my roll as daughter, my kids will do what they must...hopefully

willingly. But that is their prolem to solve not mine.It is my pride that wants

to say, I can do it alone, don't worry. maybe my pride needs a little

humility...and being dependent on my kids would certainly do that.

I always thought it my duty to to carry the world on my shoulders because I

thought each of us must do that.I now think, I cann't hold up the world, all I

can do is become as conscious as possible and thereby spread a little

consciousness around. And to unite with others to send healing energy to the

world. I sure was glad to get that off my shoulders.

Now you can laugh at me. I went to the doctor last week and told him I was

loosing my memory and my ability to use words properly. I actually believed I

was on the way to senility, as the women in my family were. He laughed and then

said, if it bothers you that much, I will ask for a complete scan of your head

to see what areas are working, but it is total foolishness. What you describe

happens to all of us. So, yes,I sometimes allow myself to worry about that.

I am not sure when all the other fears suddendly were no longer there, but over

the last years or so, when a worry would come up, and I would fear the future, I

knew that I was encouraging just what i didn't want by spending so much energy

on those thoughts. Remembering my mother's old age, I decided on drastic

discipline for me. I would not think negatively...one item at a time. Since I

am a positive thinker anyway, that made sense to me.

I noticed too that I was always carrying on on one of my daughters whose life is

constantly coming apart at the seams. I decided Ray and I spent too much time on

negative thoughts and possibilities, and those were transferring to her.I feel,

she too has made her own decisions and choices and now walks her own path. I'll

help, but I am not responsible....children age 40 are capable of directing

their own lives. (very hard for this enabler-mother)

I am absolutely convinced That if I am on " outpressing of G-d, I have no need to

be afraid of anything.So far my Image of G-d has been here for every problem,

and everything has worked out beautifully, even when I didn't see it at the

time.I cannot envision a time when this Prescence would not be within me.I

believe we are all One, and that not one hair on my head is in danger as long as

I remember that " all things work for the good of those who love God, and are

conformed to His purposes " (Corinthians,) In everything I read about the

experiences of others, I find this faith built on rock. There is just nothing

that i can even think of fearing...since I believe we have a great deal to do

what what happens in our own lives.

I live in a peaceful, safe world, and I can feel, by the grace of G-d, that we

are walking together. I must learn more about love, and that is all I can do for

the biliions I do not come in contact with. To those in trouble, or pain I can

send healing thoughts, but I must leave them to the mercy of G-d. They are not

in my " basket " . Those close to me and around me, I can approach and try to show

love. But each of us has made his/her life as it was to be, and it is not up to

me to intrude unless I am asked.

We are all One. I feel it, I know it and I love it. I know I cannot go to G-d

alone even if I wanted to, but my brothers and sisters will become part of the

same All. How can I be afraid of anything, when I have already accepted whatever

comes and said my yes?

This is why I talk about fear. If perfect love casts out fear, I want to love

enough. I can't entertain love and fear at the same time anyway. And I have all

the awe, all the love for that which I consider my Image of the Image of G-d.

Fear would only come if I felt I had forgotten Him, but not fear of what would

happen to me, but fear of not having enough devotion. I see therefore exactly

what you say.

I don't know what tomorrow will be like, but I know it will be better than

today, and whatever comes my way...well, I already said " yes " and hope the

strenght to stick to that comes with it. It is a matter of trust, I think. So

far i have never been disappointed.

( Talk about fear on the small level....yes, i am afraid of being misunderstood,

disliked,hurt or shunned. But those are experiences I have come across before,

and I am sure they are just phantoms now.I survived then nd there is no reason

to suppose that help will not be available then. I fear Ray's dying in one way,

because of me, not him. But I know i can get through that too. In fact I don't

think there is anything I can't get through with the grace of G-d.

I do know one thing, what we fear our energy attracts.I intend to allow no fear,

because i do know whose I am.

My reason for writing all this is because I see fear as the most limiting of

man's emotions, and I pray that everyone who actually believes that the Self is

indestructable will think possitively and not end up attracting what they most

fear by thinking and worrying about it. No, that isn't superstition. i think

that is psychology.

Alice, you've been carrying part of the world for a while already...aren't you

due for a recess? or lunch break? Listen if i can attempt to live without fear

with the help of the Divine you should be way ahead of me there! And as a matter

of fact, I think you are. Those worries you mention are tiredness speaking. In

fact, you envelope many around you with your consciousness, and your love.

Any good that I have spoken about comes not from me, I am sure all of you know,

but the grace of G-d who always helps the weak. I do, by his grace live in joy

and contentment most of the time because I have the silence and the leisure to

devote to it . It is available to everyone.

much love,

Toni

By the way, I have. "

Re: Fears n a small sugg

Many probs of ruffled feathers is simply to wait and reread wh one has

written n pretend u are the other person reading it.

I think, Toni, u wld really enjoy reading a life of Buddha. He was a

remarkable practical teacher and one of the few avatars not to be killed for

his gifts

to the world. For me, also, there is something profoundly dignified and

peaceful about the seated Buddha icon. I have such a Buddha in the grotto that

came

w/Rosecroft, given to me by a Catholic Buddhist Jungian analyst. The statue

is one holding a lamp - a light to the world. There is absolutely NOTHING in

his teaching that could offend a person of any persuasion.

I have met the Dalai Lama in person in Dharamsala, India, n he wanted to have

his picture taken holding Woodstock, my ish walking stick. I have met a

gd many lamas in my life n have found one thing they all have in common: they

are merry! They are strong, cheerful, and wise. What they KNOW makes them

joyous. The DL is everything he's cracked up to be - warm, strong, n kind.

Walter

had gashed his forehead on an awning n when the DL saw this, he asked how it

had happened. W expl n then the DL said: " Well, that will help remind u of yr

visit to Dharmsala! " as if meeting HIM were of little consequence.

His remark: My only religion is kindness, says it all.

------------------

Now ab fears, I know that Toni is right, but I confess I have a few. I fear

becoming a 'boiden' to my kids in my old age or that this prob of rememb

NAMES!

will get worse, etc. I worry ab humanity, the environment, the endless wars n

my inadequacy to solve the probs of the world etc. So I have not mastered

fear at the ego level. One thing tho, I do not fear my Divine Guest, wh is the

closest I cn come to knowing the mysterium bec I feel the Life-giving Love

that

is the source of all love n beauty n true goodness.

Dorothy L. Sayers, detective story writer, fr of the Inkblots Tolkien et al

at Oxford, was also a theologian n wrote something that knocked my socks off:

" The fires of hell are the flames of God's Love rejected! "

My Grandpa King, a clergyman n my image of God as a four yr old, always

referred to God as the " dear Lord " . My Grandfather wrote 28 books, including a

longtime bestseller: THE CONQUEST OF FEAR. His name was Basil King. I adored

him.

He died wh I was 5 n I was far awy in Portugal.

Time for tea.

love, what else:]!

ao