Guest guest Posted January 5, 2000 Report Share Posted January 5, 2000 but is 25 grams of carbs for breakfast too many? I have been more or less taking in 180 grams a day.... --- E Levy wrote: > Rick, I used to experience hunger at 84, shocky at 64, that changed in > the summer, the levels lowered, I suppose we have less energy needs in > summer. > I was forced off oral hypoglycemics by repeated low sugars, and on diet > only I got clearer picture of what controlled my sugars. Any starch such > as cereal, oatmeal caused an unacceptable (to me) peak. > I see your bowel as a battleground between to many carbs, and > medication. It seems to me you are piling on the carbs, and then trying > to catch them with medication. The first lesson for me was how little > food I actually needed, probably one tenth of what I ate before, and > certainly had to stop the binges I was on. > My morning fasting sugars seemed dependent on my total carbs the day > before. Glucophage suppresses morning sugars. > This equation has 2 sides, in and out. Less in, less out is a distinct > possibility. I had to give up starch based foods, and limit rice, corn, > potato. I turned to fruits for my carbs, eaten as needed tthrough the > day, to keep my sugar even. You can't do that with glucophage. I have > seen people in a dowwnward spiral of eating anfd medication, it's like > being trapped in a whirlpool, no wway out. Whatever you do, it should > provide a reduction in medication, a logical out from the cycle, Sam > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2000 Report Share Posted January 5, 2000 Rick, Thats a wonderfully normal blood sugar. Keep it Meenie BG Level too low?!?!? >This morning at 7:30 I had 1 cup of honey nut cheerios (no milk), a pepsi 1 (total 25 grams of >carbs) and 1,000mg of Glycophage. At 11:15 my BG's were 86. Is this a little low or is it where >it should be? > >Thanks, >Rick > > >===== > " Very funny y, now, beam me down my clothes... " > Kirk >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2000 Report Share Posted January 5, 2000 Hi Rick, It depends on what works for you . I try to keep my carbs down around 40 grams a day. This keeps my bg's in a great range. Dr Berenstein advocates 6 grams w/bkfst, 12 for lunch and 12 for dinner, same ratio for any snacks. The important thing is how your bg's react. I don't use any meds so have to work with my body, I use that meter and check check check Meenie >but is 25 grams of carbs for breakfast too many? I have been more or less taking in 180 grams a >day.... > >--- E Levy wrote: >> Rick, I used to experience hunger at 84, shocky at 64, that changed in >> the summer, the levels lowered, I suppose we have less energy needs in >> summer. >> I was forced off oral hypoglycemics by repeated low sugars, and on diet >> only I got clearer picture of what controlled my sugars. Any starch such >> as cereal, oatmeal caused an unacceptable (to me) peak. >> I see your bowel as a battleground between to many carbs, and >> medication. It seems to me you are piling on the carbs, and then trying >> to catch them with medication. The first lesson for me was how little >> food I actually needed, probably one tenth of what I ate before, and >> certainly had to stop the binges I was on. >> My morning fasting sugars seemed dependent on my total carbs the day >> before. Glucophage suppresses morning sugars. >> This equation has 2 sides, in and out. Less in, less out is a distinct >> possibility. I had to give up starch based foods, and limit rice, corn, >> potato. I turned to fruits for my carbs, eaten as needed tthrough the >> day, to keep my sugar even. You can't do that with glucophage. I have >> seen people in a dowwnward spiral of eating anfd medication, it's like >> being trapped in a whirlpool, no wway out. Whatever you do, it should >> provide a reduction in medication, a logical out from the cycle, Sam >> >> >> --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2000 Report Share Posted January 5, 2000 Rick, Your carb level is dependent on your energy needs. Off medication I find the meter is the best indicator of what I may eat. when you are on medication, you have to go by the numbers. I found that those who adopted a lower carb level succeeded in control by a factor over those that went the medication route. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Hi Rick, 's doctor tells us that you want to keep them between 70 and 120. That is also what I have been reading. Carl Rick wrote: > This morning at 7:30 I had 1 cup of honey nut cheerios (no milk), a pepsi 1 (total 25 grams of > carbs) and 1,000mg of Glycophage. At 11:15 my BG's were 86. Is this a little low or is it where > it should be? > > Thanks, > Rick > > ===== > " Very funny y, now, beam me down my clothes... " > Kirk > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 So Rick, did you put the pepsi on the cheerios? hehe... just kidding Meenie > >> This morning at 7:30 I had 1 cup of honey nut cheerios (no milk), a pepsi 1 (total 25 grams of >> carbs) and 1,000mg of Glycophage. At 11:15 my BG's were 86. Is this a little low or is it where >> it should be? >> >> Thanks, >> Rick >> >> ===== >> " Very funny y, now, beam me down my clothes... " >> Kirk >> __________________________________________________ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Right on Sam, I've discovered that by goin low carb I can keep from using meds to contrl my bgs. And many people I know have gotten off meds by going low carb. Meenie Re: BG Level too low?!?!? >Rick, >Your carb level is dependent on your energy needs. Off medication I find >the meter is the best indicator of what I may eat. when you are on >medication, you have to go by the numbers. I found that those who >adopted a lower carb level succeeded in control by a factor over those >that went the medication route. Sam > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 Rick - The breakfast you ate was NOT too high in carbs. Sam is on a very low carb way of life, it works for him, but not for everyone. You have to find out what works for you. As far as wanting to know if 86 is too low. Clinically speaking, NO. A normal blood sugar can range anywhere from 70 to 120. 86 is on the low side of normal, and anyone taking insulin or sulfonylureas would not want to be at that level two hours post prandial, but for someone taking glucophage, it's fine. Glucophage does not stimulate your body to produce more insulin like the sulfas, it just keeps your liver from dumping glucose. Your levels may dip to the low side of normal, but they won't bottom out, The best barometer is " how do you feel " did you feel low when you got the reading of 86? if not, then you were fine. in Cincinnati << but is 25 grams of carbs for breakfast too many? I have been more or less taking in 180 grams a day.... --- E Levy wrote: > Rick, I used to experience hunger at 84, shocky at 64, that changed in > the summer, the levels lowered, I suppose we have less energy needs in > summer. > I was forced off oral hypoglycemics by repeated low sugars, and on diet > only I got clearer picture of what controlled my sugars. Any starch such > as cereal, oatmeal caused an unacceptable (to me) peak. > I see your bowel as a battleground between to many carbs, and > medication. It seems to me you are piling on the carbs, and then trying > to catch them with medication. The first lesson for me was how little > food I actually needed, probably one tenth of what I ate before, and > certainly had to stop the binges I was on. > My morning fasting sugars seemed dependent on my total carbs the day > before. Glucophage suppresses morning sugars. > This equation has 2 sides, in and out. Less in, less out is a distinct > possibility. I had to give up starch based foods, and limit rice, corn, > potato. I turned to fruits for my carbs, eaten as needed tthrough the > day, to keep my sugar even. You can't do that with glucophage. I have > seen people in a dowwnward spiral of eating anfd medication, it's like > being trapped in a whirlpool, no wway out. Whatever you do, it should > provide a reduction in medication, a logical out from the cycle, Sam >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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