Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 thanks for posting about the NDs and about this Book BJ! VERY interesting! did you glean any info from reading this book: that changed your own Treamtent deicsions based on reading the book? IOW is it a book you think every hashis/AF patietn on an extreme Budget should still buy cuz it gives useful informaton on lifestyle/nutriitn changes and etc? :^| thanks! -Carol > > I believe that MDs are out to improve lives just like a DO or ND! > > However, most MDs are bombarded and directed by AMA that is bound to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, which direct their practice. And the very traditional way of practicing medicine is nothing more than a pharmaceutical fraternity. If one brother goes out on a limb showing that nutrition is more potent than a drug for removing illness – that brother is expelled and bad-mouthed. > > Naturopathic medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. Traditional medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. > > My main point here is to mention a book that I believe should be required reading by ALL medical professionals and also, should be read by patients and everyone: > > " Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health " , written by Sidney Baker, M.D. > > This book describes medicine the way it should be practiced – by finding the cause and working through it accordingly. This book is very heavy on biochemistry and it also explains how MD's have brought their ideas forward and how they got banned/fired for it. Dr. Baker attended Yale Medical School and also teaches there (or did). It is people like him who make medicine successful (not the letters that come after a name). > > You should like the dialogue on the relationship between the immune system and the CNS, a piece of the puzzle that is clearly missing from almost all the other authors' books on health. > > A small example on page 8: > > " Only in the last three generations have scientists understood how this system, the immune system works at a cellular and molecular level, and only ten years ago (the book was written in 1997-8) did I first hear a professor of immunology ( Dwyer at Yale) state that the immune system and central nervous system share the distinction of being homes for cells that remain intact from infancy to old age…. A 'new discipline' of psychoneuroimmunology has grown up around observations linking the function of the brain and psyche with that of the immune system, which had been considered on anatomical grounds to be quite separate…. an alien being might reasonably ask: 'How does the human perceive the environment?' and 'Where is the memory?' If such a being had the capacity to see that there are nests of cells in our bodies that are permanent while other cells come and go, it would see that these same cells are the basis for the functions of perception and memory; that they are the 'essential cells,' the center of the abiding individual and the basis for the persistence of the self in a human being. " > > Also note: Dr Baker makes this point throughout the book – Although the problem or disease maybe the same for many people - nutritional supplementation is VERY individualized; the optimum in terms of supplementation WILL be different for EACH person. > > Good luck, > ~Bj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 oh i see it is a well priced book http://naturopathicdoctor.wordpress.com/ $8 or so > > > > I believe that MDs are out to improve lives just like a DO or ND! > > > > However, most MDs are bombarded and directed by AMA that is bound to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, which direct their practice. And the very traditional way of practicing medicine is nothing more than a pharmaceutical fraternity. If one brother goes out on a limb showing that nutrition is more potent than a drug for removing illness – that brother is expelled and bad-mouthed. > > > > Naturopathic medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. Traditional medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. > > > > My main point here is to mention a book that I believe should be required reading by ALL medical professionals and also, should be read by patients and everyone: > > > > " Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health " , written by Sidney Baker, M.D. > > > > This book describes medicine the way it should be practiced – by finding the cause and working through it accordingly. This book is very heavy on biochemistry and it also explains how MD's have brought their ideas forward and how they got banned/fired for it. Dr. Baker attended Yale Medical School and also teaches there (or did). It is people like him who make medicine successful (not the letters that come after a name). > > > > You should like the dialogue on the relationship between the immune system and the CNS, a piece of the puzzle that is clearly missing from almost all the other authors' books on health. > > > > A small example on page 8: > > > > " Only in the last three generations have scientists understood how this system, the immune system works at a cellular and molecular level, and only ten years ago (the book was written in 1997-8) did I first hear a professor of immunology ( Dwyer at Yale) state that the immune system and central nervous system share the distinction of being homes for cells that remain intact from infancy to old age…. A 'new discipline' of psychoneuroimmunology has grown up around observations linking the function of the brain and psyche with that of the immune system, which had been considered on anatomical grounds to be quite separate…. an alien being might reasonably ask: 'How does the human perceive the environment?' and 'Where is the memory?' If such a being had the capacity to see that there are nests of cells in our bodies that are permanent while other cells come and go, it would see that these same cells are the basis for the functions of perception and memory; that they are the 'essential cells,' the center of the abiding individual and the basis for the persistence of the self in a human being. " > > > > Also note: Dr Baker makes this point throughout the book – Although the problem or disease maybe the same for many people - nutritional supplementation is VERY individualized; the optimum in terms of supplementation WILL be different for EACH person. > > > > Good luck, > > ~Bj > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hi Carol, This is a MUST read book along with Dr Sherry ' 'Detoxify or Die' to understand why we need to clean up and supplement our daily diet. Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health also covers the proper way to breath for energy and stress relief. It covers almost all things from A-Z such as allergies to zits. I refer back to both these books periodically - and - am so glad I bought them both, cannot say that about most of the other diet/detox books I have bought over the years. You can buy used books or try before you buy at a local library. It will probably be less than that at Amazon.com. I bought This is a must read book along with Dr Sherry ' 'Detoxify or Die' to understand why we need to clean up and supplement our daily diet. 'Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health' also covers the proper way to breath for energy and stress relief. It covers almost all things from A-Z such as allergies to zits. I refer back to both these books periodically - and - am so glad I bought them both, cannot say that about most of the other diet/detox books I have bought over the years. You can buy used books or try before you buy at a local library. It will probably be less than that at Amazon.com. Last Fall I bought 'Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health' at Amazon.com for my two SILs and the cost was $3.98 for each book. Best, ~Bj > > > > > > I believe that MDs are out to improve lives just like a DO or ND! > > > > > > However, most MDs are bombarded and directed by AMA that is bound to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, which direct their practice. And the very traditional way of practicing medicine is nothing more than a pharmaceutical fraternity. If one brother goes out on a limb showing that nutrition is more potent than a drug for removing illness – that brother is expelled and bad-mouthed. > > > > > > Naturopathic medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. Traditional medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. > > > > > > My main point here is to mention a book that I believe should be required reading by ALL medical professionals and also, should be read by patients and everyone: > > > > > > " Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health " , written by Sidney Baker, M.D. > > > > > > This book describes medicine the way it should be practiced – by finding the cause and working through it accordingly. This book is very heavy on biochemistry and it also explains how MD's have brought their ideas forward and how they got banned/fired for it. Dr. Baker attended Yale Medical School and also teaches there (or did). It is people like him who make medicine successful (not the letters that come after a name). > > > > > > You should like the dialogue on the relationship between the immune system and the CNS, a piece of the puzzle that is clearly missing from almost all the other authors' books on health. > > > > > > A small example on page 8: > > > > > > " Only in the last three generations have scientists understood how this system, the immune system works at a cellular and molecular level, and only ten years ago (the book was written in 1997-8) did I first hear a professor of immunology ( Dwyer at Yale) state that the immune system and central nervous system share the distinction of being homes for cells that remain intact from infancy to old age…. A 'new discipline' of psychoneuroimmunology has grown up around observations linking the function of the brain and psyche with that of the immune system, which had been considered on anatomical grounds to be quite separate…. an alien being might reasonably ask: 'How does the human perceive the environment?' and 'Where is the memory?' If such a being had the capacity to see that there are nests of cells in our bodies that are permanent while other cells come and go, it would see that these same cells are the basis for the functions of perception and memory; that they are the 'essential cells,' the center of the abiding individual and the basis for the persistence of the self in a human being. " > > > > > > Also note: Dr Baker makes this point throughout the book – Although the problem or disease maybe the same for many people - nutritional supplementation is VERY individualized; the optimum in terms of supplementation WILL be different for EACH person. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > ~Bj > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Grrrl are you all right? where did you buy your book? (if that was what you started to write? and do you think the Book: Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health " , written by Sidney Baker, M.D. coincides with any or Most? of what the thryoid/immune DR KHarrazian wriets about in his book: (my thyroid tests are normal so why do i feel so bad)? thanks -carol > > > > > > > > I believe that MDs are out to improve lives just like a DO or ND! > > > > > > > > However, most MDs are bombarded and directed by AMA that is bound to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, which direct their practice. And the very traditional way of practicing medicine is nothing more than a pharmaceutical fraternity. If one brother goes out on a limb showing that nutrition is more potent than a drug for removing illness – that brother is expelled and bad-mouthed. > > > > > > > > Naturopathic medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. Traditional medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. > > > > > > > > My main point here is to mention a book that I believe should be required reading by ALL medical professionals and also, should be read by patients and everyone: > > > > > > > > " Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health " , written by Sidney Baker, M.D. > > > > > > > > This book describes medicine the way it should be practiced – by finding the cause and working through it accordingly. This book is very heavy on biochemistry and it also explains how MD's have brought their ideas forward and how they got banned/fired for it. Dr. Baker attended Yale Medical School and also teaches there (or did). It is people like him who make medicine successful (not the letters that come after a name). > > > > > > > > You should like the dialogue on the relationship between the immune system and the CNS, a piece of the puzzle that is clearly missing from almost all the other authors' books on health. > > > > > > > > A small example on page 8: > > > > > > > > " Only in the last three generations have scientists understood how this system, the immune system works at a cellular and molecular level, and only ten years ago (the book was written in 1997-8) did I first hear a professor of immunology ( Dwyer at Yale) state that the immune system and central nervous system share the distinction of being homes for cells that remain intact from infancy to old age…. A 'new discipline' of psychoneuroimmunology has grown up around observations linking the function of the brain and psyche with that of the immune system, which had been considered on anatomical grounds to be quite separate…. an alien being might reasonably ask: 'How does the human perceive the environment?' and 'Where is the memory?' If such a being had the capacity to see that there are nests of cells in our bodies that are permanent while other cells come and go, it would see that these same cells are the basis for the functions of perception and memory; that they are the 'essential cells,' the center of the abiding individual and the basis for the persistence of the self in a human being. " > > > > > > > > Also note: Dr Baker makes this point throughout the book – Although the problem or disease maybe the same for many people - nutritional supplementation is VERY individualized; the optimum in terms of supplementation WILL be different for EACH person. > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > ~Bj > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Hi Carol, Thanks for your concern! Strangely the post repeated in several places, I must have accidentally touched a copy key. So that you can see what I wrote, without confusion, here is what I meant. This is a MUST read book along with Dr Sherry ' 'Detoxify or Die' to understand why we need to clean up and supplement our daily diet. `Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health' also covers the proper way to breathe for energy and stress relief. It covers almost all things from A-Z such as allergies to zits. I refer back to both these books periodically - and - I am so glad I bought them both, cannot say that about most of the other diet/detox books I have bought over the years. You can buy used books or try before you buy at a local library. You may find a copy less than eight dollars. I bought 'Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health' at Amazon.com for my two SILs and the cost was $3.98 for each book, new. Regarding Dr Kharrazian's 'Repairing Your Gut' program - see pages 125-129 of his book 'Why DO I STILL Have Thyroid Symptoms?' His 4 Rs are Remove, Reinoculate, Replace and Repair. He does have a list of nutritional compounds that are supposed to rebalance the gut. However, he does not go into any bug remedy plan. Unlike Dr. Baker and Dr who look at the entire body for healing and rebalancing, Dr K sticks to Hashimoto's. ISTM, if you find the underlying causes and fix them Hashis stabilizes, too. After all that is what most of us with autoimmune thyroid disease patients have to do to regain our quality of life, that is what I had to do. My doctor's directions were NO sugar, NO white flour, and NO refined foods, NO gluten, NO soy and NO dairy. Only eat one ingredient foods -for example, NO processed orange juice, eat an orange instead or squeeze the juice out of an orange myself. Fixing my diet and rebalancing my AF, supplementing thyroid hormone, fixing sex hormones and cortisol along with replenishing stomach acid, eradicating gut bugs, replenishing vitamin and mineral deficiencies or excesses and rebuilding good flora with probiotics. I had to make it a habit to eat meals every few hours and exercise consistently, too, and so on. I think you get the idea. According to Dr Baker each of us needs an individualized plan of action to fix our own problems. Dysfunction in the thyroid can come from a variety of underlying causes. Mine are different than yours, so need to be treated differently. Dr. Baker, Dr , Dr K and my doctor all believe that by improving our bodies' abilities to handle toxic substances, whether those substances originate outside the body or are the result of natural processes of metabolism. If we can strengthen our immune system, which along with our brains, constitute a " memory " system of permanent cells that it is essential to protect. Avoiding toxins can be part of the answer and improved detoxification processes can improve and/or protect anyone's health. Happy hormones, ~Bj > > > > > > > > > > I believe that MDs are out to improve lives just like a DO or ND! > > > > > > > > > > However, most MDs are bombarded and directed by AMA that is bound to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, which direct their practice. And the very traditional way of practicing medicine is nothing more than a pharmaceutical fraternity. If one brother goes out on a limb showing that nutrition is more potent than a drug for removing illness – that brother is expelled and bad-mouthed. > > > > > > > > > > Naturopathic medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. Traditional medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. > > > > > > > > > > My main point here is to mention a book that I believe should be required reading by ALL medical professionals and also, should be read by patients and everyone: > > > > > > > > > > " Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health " , written by Sidney Baker, M.D. > > > > > > > > > > This book describes medicine the way it should be practiced – by finding the cause and working through it accordingly. This book is very heavy on biochemistry and it also explains how MD's have brought their ideas forward and how they got banned/fired for it. Dr. Baker attended Yale Medical School and also teaches there (or did). It is people like him who make medicine successful (not the letters that come after a name). > > > > > > > > > > You should like the dialogue on the relationship between the immune system and the CNS, a piece of the puzzle that is clearly missing from almost all the other authors' books on health. > > > > > > > > > > A small example on page 8: > > > > > > > > > > " Only in the last three generations have scientists understood how this system, the immune system works at a cellular and molecular level, and only ten years ago (the book was written in 1997-8) did I first hear a professor of immunology ( Dwyer at Yale) state that the immune system and central nervous system share the distinction of being homes for cells that remain intact from infancy to old age…. A 'new discipline' of psychoneuroimmunology has grown up around observations linking the function of the brain and psyche with that of the immune system, which had been considered on anatomical grounds to be quite separate…. an alien being might reasonably ask: 'How does the human perceive the environment?' and 'Where is the memory?' If such a being had the capacity to see that there are nests of cells in our bodies that are permanent while other cells come and go, it would see that these same cells are the basis for the functions of perception and memory; that they are the 'essential cells,' the center of the abiding individual and the basis for the persistence of the self in a human being. " > > > > > > > > > > Also note: Dr Baker makes this point throughout the book – Although the problem or disease maybe the same for many people - nutritional supplementation is VERY individualized; the optimum in terms of supplementation WILL be different for EACH person. > > > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > ~Bj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 i was not cnofused abuot the other stuff i just wondered where you had bought yours sounds like a good deal and i will check there. interesting point about (mineral) etc Excesses as well as too low. and I for sure agree that at the cellular/molecalur' systms level , that we do not all have the same problem in the same specific point in the 'workflows'.. i think that is what is confusing many hypot / AF patients who literally get angry if you post any links or info that is complex :/ what does That have to do with thryoid . and why are you posting if you can't provide a specific cure (pill -Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that MDs are out to improve lives just like a DO or ND! > > > > > > > > > > > > However, most MDs are bombarded and directed by AMA that is bound to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, which direct their practice. And the very traditional way of practicing medicine is nothing more than a pharmaceutical fraternity. If one brother goes out on a limb showing that nutrition is more potent than a drug for removing illness – that brother is expelled and bad-mouthed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Naturopathic medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. Traditional medicine is outstanding – if it is practiced correctly. > > > > > > > > > > > > My main point here is to mention a book that I believe should be required reading by ALL medical professionals and also, should be read by patients and everyone: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Detoxification & Healing: The Key to Optimal Health " , written by Sidney Baker, M.D. > > > > > > > > > > > > This book describes medicine the way it should be practiced – by finding the cause and working through it accordingly. This book is very heavy on biochemistry and it also explains how MD's have brought their ideas forward and how they got banned/fired for it. Dr. Baker attended Yale Medical School and also teaches there (or did). It is people like him who make medicine successful (not the letters that come after a name). > > > > > > > > > > > > You should like the dialogue on the relationship between the immune system and the CNS, a piece of the puzzle that is clearly missing from almost all the other authors' books on health. > > > > > > > > > > > > A small example on page 8: > > > > > > > > > > > > " Only in the last three generations have scientists understood how this system, the immune system works at a cellular and molecular level, and only ten years ago (the book was written in 1997-8) did I first hear a professor of immunology ( Dwyer at Yale) state that the immune system and central nervous system share the distinction of being homes for cells that remain intact from infancy to old age…. A 'new discipline' of psychoneuroimmunology has grown up around observations linking the function of the brain and psyche with that of the immune system, which had been considered on anatomical grounds to be quite separate…. an alien being might reasonably ask: 'How does the human perceive the environment?' and 'Where is the memory?' If such a being had the capacity to see that there are nests of cells in our bodies that are permanent while other cells come and go, it would see that these same cells are the basis for the functions of perception and memory; that they are the 'essential cells,' the center of the abiding individual and the basis for the persistence of the self in a human being. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Also note: Dr Baker makes this point throughout the book – Although the problem or disease maybe the same for many people - nutritional supplementation is VERY individualized; the optimum in terms of supplementation WILL be different for EACH person. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > > ~Bj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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