Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 Susie You quoted: >The German Health Association, for example, > estimates that more than half of all Germans are > zinc deficient .... Children, adolescents, pregnant > women and the elderly are most at risk for zinc > deficiency, but it's easy to get enough by eating > certain foods or through supplements. I never heard of the " German Health Association " Susie, but I am very surprised that neither they nor you mentioned its effect on insulin storage. After reading your report that " more than half of all Germans are zinc deficient " I rush to let you know that more than half of all Germans are deficient of almost everything except body fat. Compared with that problem, a little zinc deficiency here and there would not get them excited. > Don't take too much, though. More than 150 milligrams > daily causes stomach pain or even vomiting. The American > Society for Nutritional Sciences states that most people > need between 10 and 15 milligrams daily; nursing mothers > should consume up to 19 milligrams per day. However, Germans could probably all do without the enormous doses you mention. Those are well in excess of the official recommendations for Germany, Austria and Switzerland which are as follows: Babies 0-4 months: 1.0 mg/day Babies 4-12 months: 2.0 mg/day Children 1-4 years: 3.0 mg/day Children 4-7 years: 5.0 mg/day Children 7-10 years: 7.0 mg/day Children 10-13 years: 9.0 mg/day (male), 7.0 mg/day (female) Children 13-15 years: 9.5 mg/day (male), 7.0 mg/day (female) Adults 15 upwards: 10.0 mg/day (male), 7.0 mg/day (female) Pregnant women after 4th month: 10 mg/day Nursing mothers: 11 mg/day The work I am quoting (Referenzwerte fuer die Naehrstoffzufuehr, April 2000) discusses in great detail deficiencies in most other dietary components but makes no mention of a known deficiency of zinc in the German-speaking population. However, it claims that zinc poisoning can result from eating acidic foods containing zinc and from drinking water out of galvanized containers (the good old iron bucket!). Chronic intake of more than 110 mg/day is said to cause microcytic anemia and neutropenia due to interaction with copper [1]. Even a short-term intake of about 50 mg/day is said to result in a disturbance of the iron and copper metabolisms [2]. There is therefore a clear warning over here against a zinc intake exceeding 30 mg/day, yes, " thirty " ! Comparing that with your warning against ingesting more than 150 mg/day I draw the conclusion that once again, what we are getting is only a deficiency if American-recommended levels are applied to us. It might even be possible that Americans are getting a zinc overdose! It might be just a matter of viewpoint. I wonder if American children are being dosed with 10 mg/day through baby food etc. Ingested zinc passes through the pancreas and is a part of the insulin storage mechanism - could that possible overdose be having an adverse effect on American children and account for some of the reported rise in the incidence of type 2 diabetes amongst the very young over there? [1] Gyorffy, E.J., Chan, H.: Copper deficiency and microcytic anemia resulting from prolonged ingestion of over-the-counter zinc. Am. J. Gastroenterol. 87 (1992), 1054-1055. [2] Yadrick, H.K., Kenney, M.A., Winterfield, E.A.: Iron, copper and zinc status: response to supplementation with zinc and iron in adult females. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 49 (1989), 145-150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 Thornton wrote: << ... I wonder if American children are being dosed with 10 mg/day through baby food etc. Ingested zinc passes through the pancreas and is a part of the insulin storage mechanism - could that possible overdose be having an adverse effect on American children and account for some of the reported rise in the incidence of type 2 diabetes amongst the very young over there? >> A zinc deficiency is actually supposed to be harmful for diabetics. And I think the explosion of type 2 among our youngsters is due to them being these lazy little slugs who spend their lives in front of the TV and the computer screen, combined with our incredibly crappy, sucky diet. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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