Re: navicula vs. navicular

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I have used navicular bone or just navicular (pertaining to the bone in the

noun form). By the way, this bone is in the foot.

Jan in CO

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In a message dated 12/11/1999 11:30:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Msjan0000@... writes:

<< I have used navicular bone or just navicular (pertaining to the bone in

the

noun form). By the way, this bone is in the foot.

>>

Yes, I know " navicular " (as I *usually* see it referred) is in the foot.

I'm now wondering, as the doc very clearly is dictating a hand/wrist scan as

indicated not only by the dictation itself but by his routing slip as well.

Since it is a boat-shaped bone, I thought possibly there could be one of

those hangin' out in the wrist since construction is somewhat similar and I

thought (stupid me) that the doc knew what he was talking about and I thought

a boat-shaped bone was a boat-shaped bone regardless of where it was located.

Additionally, later on the very same report (hand/wrist), doc says ... " there

is a small amount of fluid in the lunate-navicular joint. "

Perhaps he meant scaphoid (which sounds nothing like navicular) but it lies

adjacent to a lunate-type bone and, again, according to Gray's Anatomy's

illustration of the bones of the hand as well as a detailed

desription/narrative of all bones, navicular is synonomous with scaphoid.

Now that I'm more confused than before posting my question as I was certain

(which now I am *not*) that there was a navicular-type bone in the wrist, I'm

signing out and will either spend hours researching this or simply slap a

flag on it !!!

I thank you Jan for the eye-opener. If anyone else out there has any ideas

re: this, pls feel free to post. Perhaps I'll check some of this doc's older

" wrist " scans, some of which I've saved, to see he has *ever* dictated

navicular with reference to his hand and/or wrist studies. Will let you know

what I find!

Thanks again Jan,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Here is Taber's definition of navicular... " 1. Shaped liked a boat. 2.

Scaphoid bones in the carpus (wrist) and in the tarsus (ankle) " . Hope this

clears things up for you.

Patty

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Sunday, December 12, 1999, 2:11:19 AM, Swatt7@... wrote:

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Sac> Since it is a boat-shaped bone, I thought possibly there could

Sac> be one of those hangin' out in the wrist since construction is

Sac> somewhat similar and I thought (stupid me) that the doc knew

Sac> what he was talking about and I thought a boat-shaped bone was

Sac> a boat-shaped bone regardless of where it was located.

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Sac> Perhaps he meant scaphoid (which sounds nothing like navicular)

Sac> but it lies adjacent to a lunate-type bone and, again,

Sac> according to Gray's Anatomy's illustration of the bones of the

Sac> hand as well as a detailed desription/narrative of all bones,

Sac> navicular is synonomous with scaphoid.

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You're quite correct ... in fact, if you do a web search with just

the two terms, " navicular " and " wrist, " you'll get back scores of

hits where you'll see that it's the most-commonly-fractured bone in

the wrist, and is frequently referred to as

navicular (scaphoid)

in the text.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

, I have a book which I just love, but would never be able to afford on

my own because it is over $100 but I was able to get it from the hospital where

I work. It is called " A Syllabus for the Surgeon's Secretary " . It lists all of

the anatomic terms used in different kinds of surgery. For this, I went to the

Orthopedics section and looked up wrist surgery and the navicular is mentioned.

The next page shows a detailed photo of the bones of the hand and wrist. The

bone right next to the lunate is the navicular, so the lunate-navicular joint

would be correct. By the way, I see it as navicular, not navicula. Hope this

helps, MG