Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 hi all i just posted these 2 topics on the group (Coalition for Better Thyroid Care (Formerly the Save NTH forum of SHomon's) anyway; i just came across 2 areas of medical science that even the Good " practicing " doctors are ignoring. its really shocking how much medical research science and literature that is not being disseminated or 'practiced' and it is direclty affecting us patients, health and treatments and recovery timeliens. )plus wasting money and basing treatment decisions on the wrong tests. 2 long stories short : 1) the ECM/GRS system sits BETWEEN all our cells and our blood stream and our Lymph System ! **which means our 'circulating hormones " MUST go thru the ECM/GRS to get into our cells/receptors ** etc etc Please note the differetn LInks ()and google for more to learn all the things the ECM/GRS and Connective tissue do ) includnig " Auras' (ANyone have severe foot pian and tightness or fail their Hypothyroid SKIN PINCH TEST?? its the ECM/GRS/connective tissue system ! 2) 2nd topic below: INTRAcrine system of Sex hormones : FACT: the adrenal Glands do NOT make our TestosteroneS and EstrogenS! neither before during or after Menopuase! SO ALL THE CURRENT blood and Saliva tests that DRs are currently focusing on are NOT accurate reflections of TOTAL BODY SEX HORMONE STATUS ! instead the medical fact is: our adrenal glands make DHEA and DHEAS which they release into our blood stream/circulation: and then the DHEA/S go hru our ECM (see above) and into ANY/ALL body cells and PERIPHERAL metabolism/ Converted into Whatever sex hormonse/ that cell needs and once the cell 'uses' its own Estrogens or testosterones then it " metabolizes " it into a DIFFERENT END PRODUCT.. which then gets released back to bloodstream and lympch system for excretion via bladder/bowel etc. SEE the 2 posts BELOW for more details and links **************************************** Re: Coalition x Better (Hormone) Care - Practicing doctors are NOT educated AdChoices Another medical fact/ about another body system/ that even the GOOD doctors are not talking about!! RE: the ECM /GRS/ Fascia /connective tissue and our HYPOTHYROID PINCH TEST i just recently discovered that there are 2 important parts of the body that 99.9% of doctors are not talking about! long story short: MEDICAL FACT: Turns out the BLood Supply and LYmpch system do NOT directly touch all our cells! so this means that _ALL of our hormones__ have to LEAVE OUR BLOOD VESSELS AND __GO THRU THE ECM_ IN ORDER TO GET TO OUR CELLS (all of them! see my picture of the ECM and Groudn sysetm ?? OOOO OOOO OOOO the Os are our cells and SEE the SPACES between the Letter Os? THOSE SPACES are our " Extra Cellualr Matrix " which contains oru " Ground System " http://www.encognitive.com/node/5490 Quantum Medicine Update: Undetected HypoThyroidism and Xenobiotic Toxicity by DR Yanick Townsend Letter for Doctors & Patients. including these bits: " Metabolism is not a single process but rather a linking together of subsystems that regulate a wide variety of physical functions within the body. All metabolic processes require a regular supply of nutrients. If there is a deficiency, excess, an imbalance of nutrients, or an !excess of accumulated pollutants!, , (then) hormonal regulation may be disturbed. " ,,, and then THIS PART: " The accurate assessment of thyroid function should include: 1) rT3, 2) TSH assessment, 3) ***biochemical assessment of **sulfur amino acids* 4) *cofactors needed to support the **trans sulfuration-sulfate pathways of the liver,(*) 5) assessment of cellular redox potential, and 6) *functional assessments* of the liver and the 7) **ground regulation system** (GRS)!!!. " SEe all those other tests ? sulf type tests and GRS tests and FUNCTIONAL test of liver??: this relates to our detox systems adn our ECM/GRS SYMPTOMS OF A MESSED UP ECM/GRS extra cellular matrix /groudn system? 1) Failing the Hypothryodi PINCH TEST 2) painful FEET ! the ECM/GRS is our " CONNECTIVE TISSUE " ! -Carol ECM and faschia in english by some lady 'exerciser " whose focus is our ECM/Groundsystm/ Faschia role in health! http://www.meltmethod.com/blog/fascia-clinical-application " Our connective tissue consists of multiple types of cells which are enclosed in what's known as the Extracellular Matrix (ECM). The ECM contains the majority of collagen fibrils, ground substance, and structures called proteoglycans and macromolecules consisting of proteins and carbohydrates to create structural support to everything from organs, to bones, to muscles and even the tiniest structures like blood vessels and the lymphatic system. Our connective tissue and all of its components provide us the continuous connection from head to toe that forms quite an independent yet interconnected network of elasticity, cushion, pliability, strength, and support. Without it our form would not sustain it's shape at all. " this ECM/GRS/Connective tissue is where ACCUPUNCTUER and AURAS and Massage and Rolfing and ETC work with **************************************** MESSAGE 10958 > > hi > i have been learnign from conventional medical literature and realizing that Doctors know as little about how to assess Sex hormoens as they do any or all of our 6+ Types of THyroid Hormones.. > > yet the confusing part is that the DR " Experts " keep talking/ writing/ advertising like they DO know what they are doing... > > > Cuz of a discussion on Another Thryodi Patient Forum,, made me realize that most folks are not really aware of these medical facts > .. so i thought i would also post these educational facts here on the Save Natural Thryodi: COaliton For Better Thryoid Care > as well > > Note: even the " good " sex hormone Doctors and Thryodi doctors ...apparently do not really " Get this " either! > > so long story short :/ > our Sex hromone status /total body= all cells/ does NOT show up in Saliva any better than it does in blood! > > and its more complex than just Lab Scores any way:/ > > and yes this 'model' follows along with Thryoid hormones model > (IOW doctors are not doing a good thorough job of assessing our totabl body status yet are NOT admitting this is the case: > > AND most they apparently think that they are doing a great job :/ > and are either OVER confidant RE Sex hOmrone treatments or UNDERconfidant > > > there is such a HUGE " Disconnect " between all the actual medical Science/literatuer.. and what the " Practicing " Doctors are saying (EVen the " Good " ones!)? > > ======= > autocrine (localized) production of estroegn adn testosterone in any and all of > our body cells > > http://edrv.endojournals.org/content/26/3/322.full > from Endocrien Review site > Estrogen—the Good, the Bad, and the Unexpected > > " > IN THE LAST DECADE or so, our knowledge of the roles of the steroids referred to > as " sex hormones, " namely testosterone and estradiol, has undergone a quiet > revolution. > ... > > Secondly, the gradual acceptance of the role of local steroid hormone action, > particularly as it applies in postmenopausal women and in men, provides new > insights into the significance of paracrine and intracrine actions and requires > a reevaluation of the importance of circulating steroid hormone levels. > " > II. The Concept of Local Estrogen Biosynthesis > > ... > ********************************************* > " > 1. Women and men make close to equal amounts of testosterone and estradiol (on > the order of 50% rather than 10% in the case of women relative to men), and both > hormones have major physiological roles in both sexes. > > 2. However, in premenopausal women, most of the testosterone is formed, acts, > and is metabolized in specific target tissues. Testosterone is a paracrine and > intracrine factor, whereas in men it circulates as a hormone and acts globally. > > 3. On the other hand, in men most of the estradiol is formed, acts, and is > metabolized in specific target tissues, whereas in women it circulates as a > hormone and acts globally. > > 4. Finally, in postmenopausal women, neither testosterone nor estradiol > functions to any extent as a circulating hormone. Both are mainly formed locally > in target tissues and act and are metabolized therein. > " > *** > > > Which is where (Good?) URINE Lab testing for (Estrogen and Testosteonre > " METABOLITES " would be a good thing . > > eg) couldnt' hurt , might help > > > and BLOOD testing of DHEA and DHEAS is important as that is the 'food' that goes > thru ciruclation to our BODY/BRAIN cells > where they can pick it up when they want to make either estogroens or > testosterone themselves. > > CIrculating refers to BLOOD STREAM. > > so its still worth testing our Blood DHEA and DHEAS and DHT and TestosteroneS > free biovaiablble etc. > > " > As a consequence, _*circulating*__ levels of testosterone and androstenedione as > well as DHEA and DHEAS become extremely important in terms of providing adequate > substrate for estrogen biosynthesis in these sites, and therefore differences in > the levels of circulating androgens are likely to be important determinants for > the maintenance of local estrogen levels in extragonadal sites. > " > > -Carol > > > PS > i am not saying that Saliva testing is not useful! > but it appears that Blood Lab tests and urine testing would be important > ESPECIALLY before and when Taking RX-Sex-Hormones. > > OR Thryoid patinets and their SHBG and sex hromones at PERI/MENOpause (Or pregnancy pre during after)... > > (also to see what THRYOID status is doing to SHBG and our Testosterone !! and > etc > **************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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