Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 April, all full-time caregivers are put out with the family members, because they feel the brunt of the burden, and to them it feels as if no one cares about them, nor the patient. They will step up to the plate, that is the way full-timers are, but they still resent the rest of the family. It seems just about all I have ever heard resent the family for not helping out more. So, you need to understand it from your brother's perspective, and then reassure him, that you want to, but can't. After that do what you can. Anyone with a major surgery, and all that you said your dad was having is a major surgery, the patient doesn't always do well with anesthesia. They may loose what cognition they have, even if the surgery doesn't kill them. My sister had an aorta repaired, when she was sick with ALzheimer's. She did get through it OK. But, my husband with LBD didn't do ok with surgery. He was crazy as a bat for a couple of days. I prayed it wouldn't be permanent. It is usually the hospital's policy is to place a mentally impaired person into a nursing home for maybe up the three month limit on Medicare. It is done for rehabilitation. If no one is there, then that is exactly what they will do. So, whether your brother knows it or not, that is what will be done with your father. He can even request it, because he won't be there to care for your dad. Do what your heart dictates, and not to worry about your brother's feelings too much. Is he really worrying about yours? He wants what he wants. I can understand, but he is not living with your father. That is five times harder on the caregiver, and that would make a bigger difference in giving him some relief. But, in your circumstances, don't worry about your brother. Just you and your dad for now. I don't think your brother knows all the options open to caregivers. There is a program with nursing homes that you can leave a patient up to two weeks while you are on vacation. Has he checked that out? Medicare pick up most the tab. Imogene In a message dated 7/22/2006 3:36:19 PM Central Daylight Time, aswest1021@... writes: I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he called about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up the number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and my brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper. I asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then, asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a nap. I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep- rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be able to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do, but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out the next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told me that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because it may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out from under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not doing my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel that he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that following week when he wants me there. I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for not updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring; it has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise, there has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and I. He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but doesn't do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis. He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed in a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also, feel he resents me for living 11 hours away. Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see my dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop us off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town next week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give anything if it were. So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it helps to get things off my chest. April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 april i will put this very simple and easy and the God's honest truth NO SURGERY IS SIMPLE NOR ROUTINE FOR PEOPLE WITH LBD, AS THEY ADVERSELY REACT TO ANESTHESIA. case in point my daddy broke his hip in jul 05, he was dead less than 3 months later. so you go NOW see your dad before surgery becuase it may be the last time you see him this alert. hugs, sharon m -- Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from fall 7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05, may he rest in peace with his mom and dad, a smile a day keeps the meanies away ---- aswest1021 wrote: I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he called about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up the number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and my brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper. I asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then, asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a nap. I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep- rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be able to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do, but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out the next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told me that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because it may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out from under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not doing my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel that he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that following week when he wants me there. I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for not updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring; it has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise, there has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and I. He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but doesn't do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis. He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed in a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also, feel he resents me for living 11 hours away. Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see my dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop us off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town next week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give anything if it were. So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it helps to get things off my chest. April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Sharon, You have my dad mixed up with my FIL, who has LBD. My dad is 81 and suffered stroke-like symptoms about a week ago. He was found to have fluctuations in his heart rhythm, so he's getting a pacemaker this coming week. I am getting more and more put out with my brother because I've called his cell phone several times, but all I get is his voice mail. He is the one there with my dad everyday while he's been in the hospital. You would think he would call me and update me every evening on how he's doing, but he hasn't. As I said before, I really believe the reason he is discouraging me from coming tomorrow to see my dad is because he wants me to be available to come and take care of Dad while he and his wife are away. Well, I've decided that we're heading to Ark. in the morning, regardless of what my brother thinks. I have to do what is right for myself and for my dad. I can't go another day without seeing him with my own two eyes. Being this far away is about to kill me. It's already been two days since I've been able to talk to him on the phone because no one ever answers it. Wish me well on my journey. April > I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital > for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he called > about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got > settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't > call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up the > number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room > to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I > decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and my > brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper. I > asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then, > asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a nap. > I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided > that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were > planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep- > rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be able > to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do, > but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out the > next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so > after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told me > that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because it > may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out from > under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to > think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not doing > my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel that > he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to > come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that > following week when he wants me there. > I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little > girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about > anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for not > updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to > get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no > one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring; it > has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise, there > has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and I. > He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but doesn't > do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis. > He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed in > a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also, > feel he resents me for living 11 hours away. > > Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see my > dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop us > off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town next > week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give > anything if it were. > > So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it > helps to get things off my chest. > > April > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 I do, I do, You won't regret it. Imogene In a message dated 7/22/2006 8:12:48 PM Central Daylight Time, aswest1021@... writes: Wish me well on my journey. April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 aswest1021 wrote: >...I've decided that we're heading to Ark. in the morning, regardless >of what my brother thinks. I have to do what is right for myself >and for my dad. I can't go another day without seeing him with my >own two eyes. Being this far away is about to kill me. It's already >been two days since I've been able to talk to him on the phone >because no one ever answers it. Wish me well on my journey. > Good luck. By the way, if no one answers the phone in your dad's room, try calling the nurse's station on his floor and letting them know you're trying to call. They can go in and make sure the phone is answered. At least, that is what I had to do when my mother fell and was hospitalized when she broke her clavicle. She couldn't reach the phone to answer it, so the nurse had me call back right away and picked it up for her. jacqui (from Puget Sound) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Hooray to you April! Have a safe trip and we look forward to hearing from you on your return. Hoping for a successful outcome for your dad. > > I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital > > for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he > called > > about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got > > settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't > > call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up > the > > number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room > > to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I > > decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and > my > > brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper. > I > > asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then, > > asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a > nap. > > I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided > > that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were > > planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep- > > rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be > able > > to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do, > > but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out > the > > next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so > > after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told > me > > that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because > it > > may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out > from > > under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to > > think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not > doing > > my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel > that > > he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to > > come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that > > following week when he wants me there. > > I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little > > girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about > > anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for > not > > updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to > > get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no > > one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring; > it > > has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise, > there > > has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and > I. > > He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but > doesn't > > do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis. > > He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed > in > > a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also, > > feel he resents me for living 11 hours away. > > > > Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see > my > > dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop > us > > off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town > next > > week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give > > anything if it were. > > > > So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it > > helps to get things off my chest. > > > > April > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Good for you. You won't regret it. <snip> Well, I've decided that we're heading to Ark. in the morning, regardless of what my brother thinks. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 april, oops i guess a case of sometimers hit me then, sorry about that, i feeel that you have made the right decision, take care adn be safe, hugs, sharon m -- Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from fall 7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05, may he rest in peace with his mom and dad, a smile a day keeps the meanies away ---- stimtimminss wrote: Hooray to you April! Have a safe trip and we look forward to hearing from you on your return. Hoping for a successful outcome for your dad. > > I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital > > for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he > called > > about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got > > settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't > > call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up > the > > number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room > > to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I > > decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and > my > > brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper. > I > > asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then, > > asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a > nap. > > I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided > > that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were > > planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep- > > rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be > able > > to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do, > > but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out > the > > next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so > > after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told > me > > that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because > it > > may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out > from > > under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to > > think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not > doing > > my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel > that > > he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to > > come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that > > following week when he wants me there. > > I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little > > girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about > > anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for > not > > updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to > > get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no > > one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring; > it > > has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise, > there > > has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and > I. > > He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but > doesn't > > do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis. > > He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed > in > > a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also, > > feel he resents me for living 11 hours away. > > > > Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see > my > > dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop > us > > off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town > next > > week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give > > anything if it were. > > > > So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it > > helps to get things off my chest. > > > > April > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 April- You sound so much better now that you have made your decision. You are with your Dad right now and that is what is important. I wish you well and hope it turns out as a positive trip. XOXOXO Gerry Re: Re: Another " Dear Abby " Moment From Me aswest1021 wrote: >...I've decided that we're heading to Ark. in the morning, regardless >of what my brother thinks. I have to do what is right for myself >and for my dad. I can't go another day without seeing him with my >own two eyes. Being this far away is about to kill me. It's already >been two days since I've been able to talk to him on the phone >because no one ever answers it. Wish me well on my journey. > Good luck. By the way, if no one answers the phone in your dad's room, try calling the nurse's station on his floor and letting them know you're trying to call. They can go in and make sure the phone is answered. At least, that is what I had to do when my mother fell and was hospitalized when she broke her clavicle. She couldn't reach the phone to answer it, so the nurse had me call back right away and picked it up for her. jacqui (from Puget Sound) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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