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April, all full-time caregivers are put out with the family members, because

they feel the brunt of the burden, and to them it feels as if no one cares

about them, nor the patient. They will step up to the plate, that is the way

full-timers are, but they still resent the rest of the family. It seems just

about all I have ever heard resent the family for not helping out more.

So, you need to understand it from your brother's perspective, and then

reassure him, that you want to, but can't. After that do what you can.

Anyone with a major surgery, and all that you said your dad was having is a

major surgery, the patient doesn't always do well with anesthesia. They may

loose what cognition they have, even if the surgery doesn't kill them.

My sister had an aorta repaired, when she was sick with ALzheimer's. She did

get through it OK. But, my husband with LBD didn't do ok with surgery. He

was crazy as a bat for a couple of days. I prayed it wouldn't be permanent.

It is usually the hospital's policy is to place a mentally impaired person

into a nursing home for maybe up the three month limit on Medicare. It is done

for rehabilitation. If no one is there, then that is exactly what they will

do. So, whether your brother knows it or not, that is what will be done with

your father. He can even request it, because he won't be there to care for

your dad.

Do what your heart dictates, and not to worry about your brother's feelings

too much.

Is he really worrying about yours? He wants what he wants. I can understand,

but he is not living with your father. That is five times harder on the

caregiver, and that would make a bigger difference in giving him some relief.

But, in your circumstances, don't worry about your brother. Just you and your

dad for now.

I don't think your brother knows all the options open to caregivers. There

is a program with nursing homes that you can leave a patient up to two weeks

while you are on vacation. Has he checked that out? Medicare pick up most the

tab.

Imogene

In a message dated 7/22/2006 3:36:19 PM Central Daylight Time,

aswest1021@... writes:

I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital

for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he called

about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got

settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't

call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up the

number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room

to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I

decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and my

brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper. I

asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then,

asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a nap.

I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided

that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were

planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep-

rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be able

to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do,

but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out the

next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so

after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told me

that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because it

may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out from

under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to

think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not doing

my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel that

he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to

come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that

following week when he wants me there.

I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little

girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about

anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for not

updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to

get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no

one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring; it

has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise, there

has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and I.

He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but doesn't

do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis.

He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed in

a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also,

feel he resents me for living 11 hours away.

Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see my

dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop us

off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town next

week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give

anything if it were.

So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it

helps to get things off my chest.

April

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april i will put this very simple and easy and the God's honest truth

NO SURGERY IS SIMPLE NOR ROUTINE FOR PEOPLE WITH LBD, AS THEY ADVERSELY REACT TO

ANESTHESIA.

case in point my daddy broke his hip in jul 05, he was dead less than 3 months

later. so you go NOW see your dad before surgery becuase it may be the last time

you see him this alert. hugs, sharon m

--

Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from fall

7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration

pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05,

may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

a smile a day keeps the meanies away

---- aswest1021 wrote:

I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital

for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he called

about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got

settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't

call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up the

number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room

to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I

decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and my

brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper. I

asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then,

asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a nap.

I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided

that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were

planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep-

rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be able

to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do,

but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out the

next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so

after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told me

that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because it

may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out from

under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to

think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not doing

my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel that

he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to

come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that

following week when he wants me there.

I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little

girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about

anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for not

updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to

get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no

one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring; it

has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise, there

has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and I.

He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but doesn't

do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis.

He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed in

a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also,

feel he resents me for living 11 hours away.

Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see my

dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop us

off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town next

week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give

anything if it were.

So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it

helps to get things off my chest.

April

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Sharon,

You have my dad mixed up with my FIL, who has LBD. My dad is 81 and

suffered stroke-like symptoms about a week ago. He was found to

have fluctuations in his heart rhythm, so he's getting a pacemaker

this coming week. I am getting more and more put out with my

brother because I've called his cell phone several times, but all I

get is his voice mail. He is the one there with my dad everyday

while he's been in the hospital. You would think he would call me

and update me every evening on how he's doing, but he hasn't. As I

said before, I really believe the reason he is discouraging me from

coming tomorrow to see my dad is because he wants me to be available

to come and take care of Dad while he and his wife are away. Well,

I've decided that we're heading to Ark. in the morning, regardless

of what my brother thinks. I have to do what is right for myself

and for my dad. I can't go another day without seeing him with my

own two eyes. Being this far away is about to kill me. It's already

been two days since I've been able to talk to him on the phone

because no one ever answers it. Wish me well on my journey.

April

> I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital

> for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he

called

> about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got

> settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't

> call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up

the

> number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room

> to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I

> decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and

my

> brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper.

I

> asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then,

> asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a

nap.

> I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided

> that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were

> planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep-

> rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be

able

> to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do,

> but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out

the

> next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so

> after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told

me

> that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because

it

> may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out

from

> under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to

> think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not

doing

> my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel

that

> he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to

> come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that

> following week when he wants me there.

> I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little

> girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about

> anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for

not

> updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to

> get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no

> one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring;

it

> has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise,

there

> has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and

I.

> He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but

doesn't

> do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis.

> He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed

in

> a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also,

> feel he resents me for living 11 hours away.

>

> Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see

my

> dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop

us

> off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town

next

> week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give

> anything if it were.

>

> So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it

> helps to get things off my chest.

>

> April

>

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I do, I do, You won't regret it.

Imogene

In a message dated 7/22/2006 8:12:48 PM Central Daylight Time,

aswest1021@... writes:

Wish me well on my journey.

April

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aswest1021 wrote:

>...I've decided that we're heading to Ark. in the morning, regardless

>of what my brother thinks. I have to do what is right for myself

>and for my dad. I can't go another day without seeing him with my

>own two eyes. Being this far away is about to kill me. It's already

>been two days since I've been able to talk to him on the phone

>because no one ever answers it. Wish me well on my journey.

>

Good luck.

By the way, if no one answers the phone in your dad's room, try calling

the nurse's station on his floor and letting them know you're trying to

call. They can go in and make sure the phone is answered. At least,

that is what I had to do when my mother fell and was hospitalized when

she broke her clavicle. She couldn't reach the phone to answer it, so

the nurse had me call back right away and picked it up for her.

jacqui (from Puget Sound)

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Hooray to you April! Have a safe trip and we look forward to hearing from you

on your

return. Hoping for a successful outcome for your dad.

> > I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital

> > for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he

> called

> > about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got

> > settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't

> > call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up

> the

> > number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room

> > to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I

> > decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and

> my

> > brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper.

> I

> > asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then,

> > asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a

> nap.

> > I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided

> > that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were

> > planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep-

> > rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be

> able

> > to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do,

> > but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out

> the

> > next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so

> > after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told

> me

> > that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because

> it

> > may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out

> from

> > under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to

> > think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not

> doing

> > my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel

> that

> > he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to

> > come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that

> > following week when he wants me there.

> > I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little

> > girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about

> > anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for

> not

> > updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to

> > get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no

> > one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring;

> it

> > has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise,

> there

> > has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and

> I.

> > He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but

> doesn't

> > do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis.

> > He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed

> in

> > a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also,

> > feel he resents me for living 11 hours away.

> >

> > Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see

> my

> > dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop

> us

> > off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town

> next

> > week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give

> > anything if it were.

> >

> > So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it

> > helps to get things off my chest.

> >

> > April

> >

>

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Good for you. You won't regret it.

<snip> Well, I've decided that we're heading to Ark. in the morning,

regardless of what my brother thinks. <snip>

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april,

oops i guess a case of sometimers hit me then, sorry about that, i feeel

that you have made the right decision, take care adn be safe, hugs, sharon m

--

Daugher of Leonard, diag May 2004, had lbd since 1993, had hip surgery from fall

7/05, aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, had aspiration

pneumonia and uti 8/05, died of blood pressure drop on 9/25/05,

may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

a smile a day keeps the meanies away

---- stimtimminss wrote:

Hooray to you April! Have a safe trip and we look forward to hearing from you

on your

return. Hoping for a successful outcome for your dad.

> > I posted yesterday about my dad being moved to another VA Hospital

> > for his surgery. Well, my brother told me yesterday (when he

> called

> > about Dad being transferred) that he'd call me as soon as Dad got

> > settled so that I'd know how to get in touch with him. He didn't

> > call me last night or this morning. In fact, I had to search up

> the

> > number for the VA Hospital on the internet and call my dad's room

> > to try and speak to him. Unfortunately, he didn't pick up, so I

> > decided to try again later. I just called a few minutes ago and

> my

> > brother picked up the phone. He was talking almost in a whisper.

> I

> > asked how Dad was doing and he said, " Oh, just fine. " I, then,

> > asked if I could talk to him and he said that he was taking a

> nap.

> > I told my brother that after talking to my husband, I had decided

> > that I needed to be there before his surgery. I told him we were

> > planning to come see him tomorrow. I explained that I had a deep-

> > rooted fear that if something happened to him, I would never be

> able

> > to forgive myself. He said, " You have to do what you have to do,

> > but this is a routine operation where you're in one day and out

> the

> > next " . He really has changed his perspective. Just a day or so

> > after Dad went in the hospital about a week ago, my brother told

> me

> > that he thought I should see Dad when he got transferred because

> it

> > may very well be my last time. Talk about knocking my feet out

> from

> > under me! Now, he tells me it isn't urgent. I don't know what to

> > think. I sometimes get the sense that he's mad at me for not

> doing

> > my part in caring for Dad, but there are also times when I feel

> that

> > he really doesn't want me there, afterall. He may not want me to

> > come tomorrow because he knows I won't be able to come back that

> > following week when he wants me there.

> > I could ask my dad what he wants me to do, but being his " little

> > girl " , he'll tell me that he'll be fine and not to worry about

> > anything. I'm starting to get really put out at my brother for

> not

> > updating me regularly on how Dad's doing. I actually attempted to

> > get in touch with my dad the other day 17 different times, but no

> > one would answer the phone. Apparently, the phone doesn't ring;

> it

> > has a little light that flashes. As you can probably surmise,

> there

> > has been a long history of ups and downs between my brother and

> I.

> > He's wonderful to step up to the plate during a crisis, but

> doesn't

> > do much for maintaining familial relationships on a daily basis.

> > He's 12 years older than me and I think he resents being placed

> in

> > a position of being the primary caregiver for our dad. I, also,

> > feel he resents me for living 11 hours away.

> >

> > Imogene, as far as my husband being able to drive us over to see

> my

> > dad for a few days, that isn't a problem. However, he can't drop

> us

> > off and come back to pick us up because he's flying out of town

> next

> > week. Unfortunately, it just isn't that simple, though, I'd give

> > anything if it were.

> >

> > So sorry to ramble on and on about this continuing saga, but it

> > helps to get things off my chest.

> >

> > April

> >

>

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April-

You sound so much better now that you have made your decision. You are with

your Dad right now and that is what is important. I wish you well and hope it

turns out as a positive trip.

XOXOXO

Gerry

Re: Re: Another " Dear Abby " Moment From Me

aswest1021 wrote:

>...I've decided that we're heading to Ark. in the morning, regardless

>of what my brother thinks. I have to do what is right for myself

>and for my dad. I can't go another day without seeing him with my

>own two eyes. Being this far away is about to kill me. It's already

>been two days since I've been able to talk to him on the phone

>because no one ever answers it. Wish me well on my journey.

>

Good luck.

By the way, if no one answers the phone in your dad's room, try calling

the nurse's station on his floor and letting them know you're trying to

call. They can go in and make sure the phone is answered. At least,

that is what I had to do when my mother fell and was hospitalized when

she broke her clavicle. She couldn't reach the phone to answer it, so

the nurse had me call back right away and picked it up for her.

jacqui (from Puget Sound)

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