Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Ron, I had wondered why you were home when you had siblings. But, through time, I have learned that you are a CNA and still earning enough to sustain you, and can care for your Mom at the same time. That is exactly what your siblings are seeing. They are seeing their mother being cared for by a qualified person, and that eases their burden, while not thinking for a minute that you also need help. Ron, I am so sorry. You will have to put your foot down with your siblings. Everyone gets time off from work, and work around the clock is what you are doing. Without that time off you will break. You need refreshing time for you. Totally away from this responsibility for a couple of days a week. Also, some way, you Mom could use something to help her sleep, so you can sleep. NO one can continue the way you are and not burnout. Fire your Doctor, and get another that understands your problem. When you are about to crumble you don't need scolding. You need help. Now, if it sounds like I am scolding, I am not. I love you Ron, and felt terrible about your burden. This is what I am facing. But, right now my Man sleeps. Ron, I am so terribly sorry. You need to cry on someone's shoulder, that understands. Believe me we do. We are here for you. I am glad you wrote. Please keep us posted on your situation. I really worry for you. Love so much, Imogene In a message dated 10/15/2007 3:30:19 PM Central Daylight Time, dawgg4456@... writes: Hi everyone.Went back to the doctor today for myself because Im not having much luck at feeling better.Wanted to discuss staying tired, forgetting,dramatic weight gain and loss and basically I guess I was hoping that I could treat some of this with medication of some sort.My big thing is I dont want to get sick and not be able to take care of mom. Since starting the lewy trip Ive been put on zoloft for depression and prevacid for stomache woes.So Im thinking we will treat these new symtoims and go from there. Well when I get there I find that my blood pressure is 175 over 115.And Ive gained 34 pounds in a month after losing over 70 pounds in 6 months.So I have my list of what to talk to the dr about and I read it off to her and she instantly goes into a long tyrade of me not taking care of myself.So I try to explain to her that Im a 24 hour caregiver and it just basically gets worse.We never did see eye to eye and I got nothing to help me with my problems so basically I just got more stress from being so irate at the lack of understanding I get in my life.So Im laying it out to anyone hear that will listen.And i respect oppinions and reeally would like to know if Im wrong and if I really can change my situation; 1.Its very important to me not to put mom in the care of a stranger.I could explain it but its long and just hate to go into it now 2If I could get more help from family members I would its that simple there is a million things Id like to do but If the help isnt there then I cant change that. 3.I really feel like if it isnt me doin this then mom is screwed and in a nh. 4.I dont think Id enjoy my life anyway if I turned my back like the rest of my siblings seem to be able to do. Basically thats how I feel I just wanted something to help me cope with all this and keep me from getting sick and instead Im feeling like Im wrong for being this way AND I got absolutely no help today at all to deal with the memory, sleep, fatigue, and weight fluxuations.Can someone just tell me how the hell I am supposed to change my lifestyle doing this?If I could wake the hell up in the morning and be a famous rock star I would but Im ron and I take care of my mom and everytime I ask for help I get advice that just doesnt even apply to my life. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hi, Ron, I would really like to pinch your doctor's head off at the moment. I am sure she means well, but she definitely doesn't get it. Most doctors have no idea what caregiving really is - especially 24/7. I had many of the same feeling you are having now when I was taking care of my dad. I didn't want to put Dad's care in the hands of strangers either. I tried having a few people, and Dad didn't respond very well to anyone but me. I have siblings, too, and mine were about as much help as yours are. I would ask for help, and both of them would always have some excuse or pitch a fit, so I stopped asking. You are right - if the help isn't there, it just isn't there. As Dad got progressively worse, my mother was always trying to put Dad in a nursing home, and that was always uncomfortable. I had power of attorney for my dad so my mother was not in charge of making decisions for him. I know, it all sounds strange - it was strange. My dad and I had always been really close, and I guess he knew who he wanted making decisions on his behalf. I felt like you do, that I had my reasons for doing what I was doing, and it just wasn't worth explaining anything to anyone because they wouldn't understand it anyway. It was between my dad and I, and that is all that mattered - just like it is between you and your mom. I wish I had some great advice to give you. I don't have a lot of advice, but I have a tremendous amount of understanding. I eventually did find a lady to who my dad responded well. She would come two afternoons per week for a few hours and be with my dad. I wouldn't leave the house, but it would give me some time to do my work or whatever else I could do - maybe even rest. This lady couldn't do any heavy lifting with my dad, but he liked being with her. I would be home to do anything that was physical if he needed it. Would your siblings that won't help with your mom's care be willing to pitch in towards hiring a small amount of outside help to give you a break? You could still be home so you would know what was going on with your mom, but you wouldn't have to be totally with her during that time. I gained weight when I was taking care of my dad, too. Comfort food did just that for me - it comforted me. Don't worry too much about the weight gain. You will straighten that out in time. I just know it is near impossible to " take care of yourself " when you are caring for someone 24/7. We know we are supposed to take care of ourselves, but we can just do what we can do for ourselves. I do know that you will be really glad that you took care of your mom, and you will never regret it. I am going to stop rambling now. I just wish you weren't having to go through what you are going through. Please come here and rant whenever you need to. We are here for you. Big hugs, Piper ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Ron, where to start! I found looking after my granda was very much like taking care of my children when they were babies. when i was cooking for my granda i made sure i ate too, when he slept i would maybe nap too. don't get bogged down in household chores. a house is always standing when your not. I know it can sound simplistic and it's not. We become consumed with the job we have to do wtth our LO's and sometimes it's at the expense of our own health. People will say 'don't worry so much' but we do, we project into the future and think that we don't have our LO for a very long time so we'll go all out to do everything we can to make sure their remaining years/months are comfortable and not spent with strangers. Everyones situation is unique. The only suggesion i have is to ask yourself, if you saw someone you cared about in the exact situation your in..what would your advice be to them. Would you tell them to slow down and look after themselves? Probably but the short of it is that we all do what we feel we have to to get by each day. Your not wrong for feeling the way you do or getting sick. Your only human. Keep coming here. I know it's not the same as having a face to face with another caregiver or getting some time to chill but we're open 24/7 365 days a year. We never close. Take care .xx sorry off topic, (just need to vent a little) Hi everyone.Went back to the doctor today for myself because Im not having much luck at feeling better.Wanted to discuss staying tired, forgetting,dramatic weight gain and loss and basically I guess I was hoping that I could treat some of this with medication of some sort.My big thing is I dont want to get sick and not be able to take care of mom. Since starting the lewy trip Ive been put on zoloft for depression and prevacid for stomache woes.So Im thinking we will treat these new symtoims and go from there. Well when I get there I find that my blood pressure is 175 over 115.And Ive gained 34 pounds in a month after losing over 70 pounds in 6 months.So I have my list of what to talk to the dr about and I read it off to her and she instantly goes into a long tyrade of me not taking care of myself.So I try to explain to her that Im a 24 hour caregiver and it just basically gets worse.We never did see eye to eye and I got nothing to help me with my problems so basically I just got more stress from being so irate at the lack of understanding I get in my life.So Im laying it out to anyone hear that will listen.And i respect oppinions and reeally would like to know if Im wrong and if I really can change my situation; 1.Its very important to me not to put mom in the care of a stranger.I could explain it but its long and just hate to go into it now 2If I could get more help from family members I would its that simple there is a million things Id like to do but If the help isnt there then I cant change that. 3.I really feel like if it isnt me doin this then mom is screwed and in a nh. 4.I dont think Id enjoy my life anyway if I turned my back like the rest of my siblings seem to be able to do. Basically thats how I feel I just wanted something to help me cope with all this and keep me from getting sick and instead Im feeling like Im wrong for being this way AND I got absolutely no help today at all to deal with the memory, sleep, fatigue, and weight fluxuations.Can someone just tell me how the hell I am supposed to change my lifestyle doing this?If I could wake the hell up in the morning and be a famous rock star I would but Im ron and I take care of my mom and everytime I ask for help I get advice that just doesnt even apply to my life. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Dear Ron, OMG, I am so sorry to hear all of this. I have experienced something similar to this but not quite. I have had depression and anxiety problems since my mid-twenties, I'm 46 now. Anyway, when I first went down and brought mom up here from FL I put her in assisted living and later got her an apartment directly downstairs from me. I thought I was going to lose my mind!!! It was a very tough adjustment! She was suddenly sooo needy, and was so good at giving the guilt trips.( I don't think this is the case with you but I think the result was the same) I became very depressed and tired and lost 30 pounds in just a few months, I was no longer able to work because mom took up almost all of my time and plus I just became no good at dealing with people. I hate to admit this part but I ended up really not taking care of myself to the point that I was no good for anybody. Well I decided to pull myself together and start taking care of myself. I went on a 3 day vacation(it would have been longer if I could have afforded it) I didn't even go out of town but very few people knew where I was. I got someone to sit with mom, and spent the entire 3 days just thinking of what I needed. Somehow during that time I learned not to let my mom " guilt trip " me. I don't know how that happened but it was a liberating experience. I somehow just figured out how to balance my life better. I went to the doctor and was prescribed prozac and klonopin for depression and anxiety. Thank God I had a doctor that would do that! She's not a good doctor for anything else but she listened to what I felt that I needed. And oh how it has helped me. I have now gained back all the weight I lost and then some, but I am doing so much better. Well then there's my husband. He is now having a hard time adjusting to the Lewy coaster that's going on. As long as my mom didn't live with us he didn't have to deal with much. Well now he has high blood pressure, depression and anxiety. The doctor has given him something for the bp and depression but won't prescribe anything for anxiety or sleeping problems. He has lost about 10 pounds this month and watching him is like seeing myself back when I first started caring for mom. I think it is a very normal reaction to this kind of situation. This is just not easy and I don't think anybody would want to see their loved one suffer from this. Like your siblings, my sister has nothing to do with care for my mom. In fact she lived in the town that I had to go and get my mom from. I would have loved for mom to be able to stay in the state that she loved among familiar people. But my sister needs her own kind of help. and that's a whole other story. Anyway, I don't think there's anything that I can actually say to make anything any better, but don't let anybody make you feel any worse! If there's any way to go to a different doctor? Ron, just know I'm here when ever you need to vent. Like I said, you have been a good shoulder for me, I'm here for you. Please take good care of yourself! Let me know how you're doing! Hugs to you, Keli ron frye wrote: Hi everyone.Went back to the doctor today for myself because Im not having much luck at feeling better.Wanted to discuss staying tired, forgetting,dramatic weight gain and loss and basically I guess I was hoping that I could treat some of this with medication of some sort.My big thing is I dont want to get sick and not be able to take care of mom. Since starting the lewy trip Ive been put on zoloft for depression and prevacid for stomache woes.So Im thinking we will treat these new symtoims and go from there. Well when I get there I find that my blood pressure is 175 over 115.And Ive gained 34 pounds in a month after losing over 70 pounds in 6 months.So I have my list of what to talk to the dr about and I read it off to her and she instantly goes into a long tyrade of me not taking care of myself.So I try to explain to her that Im a 24 hour caregiver and it just basically gets worse.We never did see eye to eye and I got nothing to help me with my problems so basically I just got more stress from being so irate at the lack of understanding I get in my life.So Im laying it out to anyone hear that will listen.And i respect oppinions and reeally would like to know if Im wrong and if I really can change my situation; 1.Its very important to me not to put mom in the care of a stranger.I could explain it but its long and just hate to go into it now 2If I could get more help from family members I would its that simple there is a million things Id like to do but If the help isnt there then I cant change that. 3.I really feel like if it isnt me doin this then mom is screwed and in a nh. 4.I dont think Id enjoy my life anyway if I turned my back like the rest of my siblings seem to be able to do. Basically thats how I feel I just wanted something to help me cope with all this and keep me from getting sick and instead Im feeling like Im wrong for being this way AND I got absolutely no help today at all to deal with the memory, sleep, fatigue, and weight fluxuations.Can someone just tell me how the hell I am supposed to change my lifestyle doing this?If I could wake the hell up in the morning and be a famous rock star I would but Im ron and I take care of my mom and everytime I ask for help I get advice that just doesnt even apply to my life. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Ron, I'm sorry to hear about this. I don't have much to say except you must find some YOU time. Is there any way even a neighbor or family friend can visit for an hour or two on a regular basis just for you to do something for you? And I agree w/ Imogene -- I bet your siblings are finding they have the easy way out w/ your CNA experience. And you must do as Imogene suggests and put your foot down and request help -- even if it's having them do the groceries for the house, research online for you, yard work or something. And I agree w/ others that your doctor isn't that useful and if possible find another. I wish I had the answers that you need. And you have no need to be sorry - this board is for you to vent as much as you need to or like. Sometimes just writing the words down and seeing them in black & white helps a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 We wish we could hug you too, Ron. But, we try to do the next best thing and that is to talk to you. You can say it like it is because you know that we feel exactly what you are feeling. Caregivers are a very caring group. That is why everyone on this list is so kind and understanding. They all have a lot of love to share, and we all share it with you, Ron. Love a bunch, Imogene In a message dated 10/15/2007 8:28:52 PM Central Daylight Time, dawgg4456@... writes: Hi everyone, Thank you all so much for reaching out and I cant tell you how great it feels to really be understood as if I am not from another planet.You all mean so much to me you could just never know.Whishing you all peace and happiness tonight and always and again Thank you so much for caring , I was deeply moved this evening when I saw all of the posts.Seriously wish I could just hug you all ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hi everyone, Thank you all so much for reaching out and I cant tell you how great it feels to really be understood as if I am not from another planet.You all mean so much to me you could just never know.Whishing you all peace and happiness tonight and always and again Thank you so much for caring , I was deeply moved this evening when I saw all of the posts.Seriously wish I could just hug you all ppark4915@... wrote: Hi, Ron, I would really like to pinch your doctor's head off at the moment. I am sure she means well, but she definitely doesn't get it. Most doctors have no idea what caregiving really is - especially 24/7. I had many of the same feeling you are having now when I was taking care of my dad. I didn't want to put Dad's care in the hands of strangers either. I tried having a few people, and Dad didn't respond very well to anyone but me. I have siblings, too, and mine were about as much help as yours are. I would ask for help, and both of them would always have some excuse or pitch a fit, so I stopped asking. You are right - if the help isn't there, it just isn't there. As Dad got progressively worse, my mother was always trying to put Dad in a nursing home, and that was always uncomfortable. I had power of attorney for my dad so my mother was not in charge of making decisions for him. I know, it all sounds strange - it was strange. My dad and I had always been really close, and I guess he knew who he wanted making decisions on his behalf. I felt like you do, that I had my reasons for doing what I was doing, and it just wasn't worth explaining anything to anyone because they wouldn't understand it anyway. It was between my dad and I, and that is all that mattered - just like it is between you and your mom. I wish I had some great advice to give you. I don't have a lot of advice, but I have a tremendous amount of understanding. I eventually did find a lady to who my dad responded well. She would come two afternoons per week for a few hours and be with my dad. I wouldn't leave the house, but it would give me some time to do my work or whatever else I could do - maybe even rest. This lady couldn't do any heavy lifting with my dad, but he liked being with her. I would be home to do anything that was physical if he needed it. Would your siblings that won't help with your mom's care be willing to pitch in towards hiring a small amount of outside help to give you a break? You could still be home so you would know what was going on with your mom, but you wouldn't have to be totally with her during that time. I gained weight when I was taking care of my dad, too. Comfort food did just that for me - it comforted me. Don't worry too much about the weight gain. You will straighten that out in time. I just know it is near impossible to " take care of yourself " when you are caring for someone 24/7. We know we are supposed to take care of ourselves, but we can just do what we can do for ourselves. I do know that you will be really glad that you took care of your mom, and you will never regret it. I am going to stop rambling now. I just wish you weren't having to go through what you are going through. Please come here and rant whenever you need to. We are here for you. Big hugs, Piper ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hi Ron, My heart goes out to you. I couldn't agree with Imogene more especially when she writes about your siblings: They are seeing their mother being cared for by a qualified person, and that eases their burden, while not thinking for a minute that you also need help. I know that your sisters are a little bit more supportive of you. Is there anyway you can speak to them and tell them that you all need to sit down and put a schedule together? Even if you get 5-6 hours to yourself one day a weekend something is better than nothing. Is your mom able to attend Adult day care for a day or so during the week? Just throwing things out there. I wish I knew what to say but no matter how much help we need we just can't force our siblings to do the right thing. A few caregivers on this list have had to go on anti-depressants because of all the stress and from personal experience I can tell you that you don't have to stay of them forever. I took them for about 5 years but was finally able to wean myself off them completely when I felt ready. However, they did help me so very much when I needed that help. Is there another doctor you can go to? Hopefully this one will be more supportive and may even have a few ideas???? Ron, wish I lived near you because I'd come over and help you. Courage Re: sorry off topic, (just need to vent a little) Ron, I had wondered why you were home when you had siblings. But, through time, I have learned that you are a CNA and still earning enough to sustain you, and can care for your Mom at the same time. That is exactly what your siblings are seeing. They are seeing their mother being cared for by a qualified person, and that eases their burden, while not thinking for a minute that you also need help. Ron, I am so sorry. You will have to put your foot down with your siblings. Everyone gets time off from work, and work around the clock is what you are doing. Without that time off you will break. You need refreshing time for you. Totally away from this responsibility for a couple of days a week. Also, some way, you Mom could use something to help her sleep, so you can sleep. NO one can continue the way you are and not burnout. Fire your Doctor, and get another that understands your problem. When you are about to crumble you don't need scolding. You need help. Now, if it sounds like I am scolding, I am not. I love you Ron, and felt terrible about your burden. This is what I am facing. But, right now my Man sleeps. Ron, I am so terribly sorry. You need to cry on someone's shoulder, that understands. Believe me we do. We are here for you. I am glad you wrote. Please keep us posted on your situation. I really worry for you. Love so much, Imogene In a message dated 10/15/2007 3:30:19 PM Central Daylight Time, dawgg4456@... writes: Hi everyone.Went back to the doctor today for myself because Im not having much luck at feeling better.Wanted to discuss staying tired, forgetting,dramatic weight gain and loss and basically I guess I was hoping that I could treat some of this with medication of some sort.My big thing is I dont want to get sick and not be able to take care of mom. Since starting the lewy trip Ive been put on zoloft for depression and prevacid for stomache woes.So Im thinking we will treat these new symtoims and go from there. Well when I get there I find that my blood pressure is 175 over 115.And Ive gained 34 pounds in a month after losing over 70 pounds in 6 months.So I have my list of what to talk to the dr about and I read it off to her and she instantly goes into a long tyrade of me not taking care of myself.So I try to explain to her that Im a 24 hour caregiver and it just basically gets worse.We never did see eye to eye and I got nothing to help me with my problems so basically I just got more stress from being so irate at the lack of understanding I get in my life.So Im laying it out to anyone hear that will listen.And i respect oppinions and reeally would like to know if Im wrong and if I really can change my situation; 1.Its very important to me not to put mom in the care of a stranger.I could explain it but its long and just hate to go into it now 2If I could get more help from family members I would its that simple there is a million things Id like to do but If the help isnt there then I cant change that. 3.I really feel like if it isnt me doin this then mom is screwed and in a nh. 4.I dont think Id enjoy my life anyway if I turned my back like the rest of my siblings seem to be able to do. Basically thats how I feel I just wanted something to help me cope with all this and keep me from getting sick and instead Im feeling like Im wrong for being this way AND I got absolutely no help today at all to deal with the memory, sleep, fatigue, and weight fluxuations.Can someone just tell me how the hell I am supposed to change my lifestyle doing this?If I could wake the hell up in the morning and be a famous rock star I would but Im ron and I take care of my mom and everytime I ask for help I get advice that just doesnt even apply to my life. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Boy, Ron, I was an only caregiver and I use to hate it when people asked to take care of myself. I knew I should, I just didn't know when I could. Hope you find a real MD. who will help you and not be so critical. You need lots of support right now. Like you don't know you aren't feeling good? Did you get over the pneumonia? Or is that still a part of it. I gained a lot of weight when I had Mom at home because I never ate as much as I did when I was fixing it for her. Hope there is someone who can regularly give you a hand. I did do what I could of day care and it helped. Just have to take those breaks. And when I couldn't I would walk into the AD offices and ask to talk to a Social Worker. I would scream, holler and do what ever I had to for an hour straight and then I could do some more time. They would be ever so patient and listen to me cry. My good thoughts come your way tonight. You can worry about weight another day. Maybe some BP bills would help? I hope she gave you those. Sorry and lots of hugs coming your way. Donna R Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other than mine. sorry off topic, (just need to vent a little) Hi everyone.Went back to the doctor today for myself because Im not having much luck at feeling better.Wanted to discuss staying tired, forgetting,dramatic weight gain and loss and basically I guess I was hoping that I could treat some of this with medication of some sort.My big thing is I dont want to get sick and not be able to take care of mom. Since starting the lewy trip Ive been put on zoloft for depression and prevacid for stomache woes.So Im thinking we will treat these new symtoims and go from there. Well when I get there I find that my blood pressure is 175 over 115.And Ive gained 34 pounds in a month after losing over 70 pounds in 6 months.So I have my list of what to talk to the dr about and I read it off to her and she instantly goes into a long tyrade of me not taking care of myself.So I try to explain to her that Im a 24 hour caregiver and it just basically gets worse.We never did see eye to eye and I got nothing to help me with my problems so basically I just got more stress from being so irate at the lack of understanding I get in my life.So Im laying it out to anyone hear that will listen.And i respect oppinions and reeally would like to know if Im wrong and if I really can change my situation; 1.Its very important to me not to put mom in the care of a stranger.I could explain it but its long and just hate to go into it now 2If I could get more help from family members I would its that simple there is a million things Id like to do but If the help isnt there then I cant change that. 3.I really feel like if it isnt me doin this then mom is screwed and in a nh. 4.I dont think Id enjoy my life anyway if I turned my back like the rest of my siblings seem to be able to do. Basically thats how I feel I just wanted something to help me cope with all this and keep me from getting sick and instead Im feeling like Im wrong for being this way AND I got absolutely no help today at all to deal with the memory, sleep, fatigue, and weight fluxuations.Can someone just tell me how the hell I am supposed to change my lifestyle doing this?If I could wake the hell up in the morning and be a famous rock star I would but Im ron and I take care of my mom and everytime I ask for help I get advice that just doesnt even apply to my life. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Dear Ron, I'm sorry but when I read this last night I don't think I was very helpful!!! This morning I was going over some of the mail from yesterday and as I re-read the last part of your letter I realized that I was just another one of those saying " wake up and be a rock star " . I sometimes just get caught up in what works or worked for me that I forget that everyone has their own unique circumstances. Lifestyle changes are sometimes next to impossible. Everyone does the best they can do, and really the best you can do is all that you CAN do. As far as the meds go though, I really wish you were able to get what you need. I hope things get a little easier for you, and I'm sending all positive thoughts and energy your way, lots of prayer too. Hugs to you Ron, Keli ron frye wrote: Hi everyone.Went back to the doctor today for myself because Im not having much luck at feeling better.Wanted to discuss staying tired, forgetting,dramatic weight gain and loss and basically I guess I was hoping that I could treat some of this with medication of some sort.My big thing is I dont want to get sick and not be able to take care of mom. Since starting the lewy trip Ive been put on zoloft for depression and prevacid for stomache woes.So Im thinking we will treat these new symtoims and go from there. Well when I get there I find that my blood pressure is 175 over 115.And Ive gained 34 pounds in a month after losing over 70 pounds in 6 months.So I have my list of what to talk to the dr about and I read it off to her and she instantly goes into a long tyrade of me not taking care of myself.So I try to explain to her that Im a 24 hour caregiver and it just basically gets worse.We never did see eye to eye and I got nothing to help me with my problems so basically I just got more stress from being so irate at the lack of understanding I get in my life.So Im laying it out to anyone hear that will listen.And i respect oppinions and reeally would like to know if Im wrong and if I really can change my situation; 1.Its very important to me not to put mom in the care of a stranger.I could explain it but its long and just hate to go into it now 2If I could get more help from family members I would its that simple there is a million things Id like to do but If the help isnt there then I cant change that. 3.I really feel like if it isnt me doin this then mom is screwed and in a nh. 4.I dont think Id enjoy my life anyway if I turned my back like the rest of my siblings seem to be able to do. Basically thats how I feel I just wanted something to help me cope with all this and keep me from getting sick and instead Im feeling like Im wrong for being this way AND I got absolutely no help today at all to deal with the memory, sleep, fatigue, and weight fluxuations.Can someone just tell me how the hell I am supposed to change my lifestyle doing this?If I could wake the hell up in the morning and be a famous rock star I would but Im ron and I take care of my mom and everytime I ask for help I get advice that just doesnt even apply to my life. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 <snip> ...I use to hate it when people asked to take care of myself. I knew I should, I just didn't know when I could. <snip> I remember that too. Or when people would ask how are YOU doing? Me? ME? What about Mumsie! Of course they were well-intentioned and thinking about my best interest - but when you're in the active caregiving role, in the moment -- life just seems to revolve around your LO and I'd be bitter when questions about me and my well-being were mentioned... Of course they're right. There are many here who have suffered the consequences of NOT taking care of themselves. Minor for me, thankfully - still have dental issues that needs resolving - had I not procrastinated myself during the journey - but when your 'in the moment' 'in the active caregiver role' it's difficult to find the time, energy, thought process on yourself. You figure, well I'll just deal w/ myself later. But sometimes, it's best to put yourself in first spot - only to avoid issues in the future. Another was postponing a doctors appt. w/ a dermatologist, again, remembered all of mom's appointments, but forgot my own. And had to deal w/ a biopsy - was benign - but again we gotta stop and think about ourselves. So, even though it's annoying when people mention YOU - take their advice and remember YOU. You know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Ron, If you don't mind, I have a few quick questions: 1) Is there any possibility whatsoever that one of your siblings would help out for two hours a week? 2) If the answer to the above question is NO (or even if it's YES), is there someone else (a neighbor, friend, another CNA) who could work 2 hours a day or a few hours every few days? If so, would you be able to pay them? 3) How much time (literally) do you have for yourself to: a) go for a walk, to the gym buy healthy food c) cook some healthy food 4) I don't know if you have ever in your life done any meditation. If you have, have you been doing some? If you never have, would you like to try? Thinking of you and wishing you well, Norma ron frye <dawgg4456yahoo (DOT) com> To Sent by: lbdcaregivers LBDcaregivers@yah cc oogroups.com Subject sorry off topic, 10/15/2007 04:30 (just need to vent a little) PM Please respond to LBDcaregivers@yah oogroups.com Hi everyone.Went back to the doctor today for myself because Im not having much luck at feeling better.Wanted to discuss staying tired, forgetting,dramatic weight gain and loss and basically I guess I was hoping that I could treat some of this with medication of some sort.My big thing is I dont want to get sick and not be able to take care of mom. Since starting the lewy trip Ive been put on zoloft for depression and prevacid for stomache woes.So Im thinking we will treat these new symtoims and go from there. Well when I get there I find that my blood pressure is 175 over 115.And Ive gained 34 pounds in a month after losing over 70 pounds in 6 months.So I have my list of what to talk to the dr about and I read it off to her and she instantly goes into a long tyrade of me not taking care of myself.So I try to explain to her that Im a 24 hour caregiver and it just basically gets worse.We never did see eye to eye and I got nothing to help me with my problems so basically I just got more stress from being so irate at the lack of understanding I get in my life.So Im laying it out to anyone hear that will listen.And i respect oppinions and reeally would like to know if Im wrong and if I really can change my situation; 1.Its very important to me not to put mom in the care of a stranger.I could explain it but its long and just hate to go into it now 2If I could get more help from family members I would its that simple there is a million things Id like to do but If the help isnt there then I cant change that. 3.I really feel like if it isnt me doin this then mom is screwed and in a nh. 4.I dont think Id enjoy my life anyway if I turned my back like the rest of my siblings seem to be able to do. Basically thats how I feel I just wanted something to help me cope with all this and keep me from getting sick and instead Im feeling like Im wrong for being this way AND I got absolutely no help today at all to deal with the memory, sleep, fatigue, and weight fluxuations.Can someone just tell me how the hell I am supposed to change my lifestyle doing this?If I could wake the hell up in the morning and be a famous rock star I would but Im ron and I take care of my mom and everytime I ask for help I get advice that just doesnt even apply to my life. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 ron -- a. i'm wondering what the doc does say about a. your going off the anti-d's ,b. about your bp -- and did she put u on meds? c. any other treatements/follow-ups, etc? you aren't going to be any help to your mom if you are dead. period. so -- what's your plan for your good health. want to train for that run togehter? is making a health/fitness plan soething you need/want help with and/or can do in the next week? (at least food, sleep, exercise) is building in a weekly food plan something you can add to your life? b. i know folks are saying to ditch the doc -- but you really like the doc, right? and it sounds like in the end (based on our conversation you and i had by phone last night) that you are actually going to take some/much of her advice. do you really want to terminate that relationship or is it one worth revisiting with another conversation with her letting her know how you feel. i didn't like it when my grandfather would fuss at me to eat and sleep properly when i was going to school/working a zillion hours/partying like a rock star -- but in the end, he was right, and maybe the only way he could be heard over my clamorings of denial that i was fine and there was no choice and absolutely NO solution to my situation was to be stern and a little gruff --- and loud. lol -- unusaual for him, but sometimes the only way to get through to me. c. sounds like you've identified some excellent solutions -- to try and get 25% of your time back (42 hours a week.) 1. to ask at least 2 and maybe 3 of your siblings to committ to caregive for your mom according to a set schedule weekly. 2. to investigate whether or not you can get paid for more of the time you do cg for your mom as a cna. 3. to make contact with the local chapter of the alz. assn. and get in their program for caregivers inccluding their one on one caregiver casemanager program -- where they work to identify all options for the CAREGIVER to get respite. 4. to investigate other resources available for respite care via hospice, other area organizations, churches, community groups, etc. d. i really urge you to get to the local caregivers support meetings once a month at least. as great as this group is, i think there's something to be said for being in the room live with folks, too AND you can pick up some handy tips about the local system from the locals! big love, anna --- Donna Mido wrote: > Boy, Ron, > > I was an only caregiver and I use to hate it when > people asked to take care of myself. I knew I > should, I just didn't know when I could. > > Hope you find a real MD. who will help you and not > be so critical. You need lots of support right now. > Like you don't know you aren't feeling good? Did > you get over the pneumonia? Or is that still a part > of it. > > I gained a lot of weight when I had Mom at home > because I never ate as much as I did when I was > fixing it for her. > > Hope there is someone who can regularly give you a > hand. I did do what I could of day care and it > helped. Just have to take those breaks. > > And when I couldn't I would walk into the AD offices > and ask to talk to a Social Worker. I would scream, > holler and do what ever I had to for an hour > straight and then I could do some more time. They > would be ever so patient and listen to me cry. > > My good thoughts come your way tonight. You can > worry about weight another day. Maybe some BP bills > would help? I hope she gave you those. > > Sorry and lots of hugs coming your way. > > Donna R > > Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) > for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. > She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other > than mine. > > > sorry off topic, (just need > to vent a little) > > Hi everyone.Went back to the doctor today for myself > because Im not having much luck at feeling > better.Wanted to discuss staying tired, > forgetting,dramatic weight gain and loss and > basically I guess I was hoping that I could treat > some of this with medication of some sort.My big > thing is I dont want to get sick and not be able to > take care of mom. > Since starting the lewy trip Ive been put on > zoloft for depression and prevacid for stomache > woes.So Im thinking we will treat these new symtoims > and go from there. > Well when I get there I find that my blood > pressure is 175 over 115.And Ive gained 34 pounds in > a month after losing over 70 pounds in 6 months.So I > have my list of what to talk to the dr about and I > read it off to her and she instantly goes into a > long tyrade of me not taking care of myself.So I try > to explain to her that Im a 24 hour caregiver and it > just basically gets worse.We never did see eye to > eye and I got nothing to help me with my problems so > basically I just got more stress from being so irate > at the lack of understanding I get in my life.So Im > laying it out to anyone hear that will listen.And i > respect oppinions and reeally would like to know if > Im wrong and if I really can change my situation; > 1.Its very important to me not to put mom in the > care of a stranger.I could explain it but its long > and just hate to go into it now > 2If I could get more help from family members I > would its that simple there is a million things Id > like to do but If the help isnt there then I cant > change that. > 3.I really feel like if it isnt me doin this then > mom is screwed and in a nh. > 4.I dont think Id enjoy my life anyway if I turned > my back like the rest of my siblings seem to be able > to do. > Basically thats how I feel I just wanted something > to help me cope with all this and keep me from > getting sick and instead Im feeling like Im wrong > for being this way AND I got absolutely no help > today at all to deal with the memory, sleep, > fatigue, and weight fluxuations.Can someone just > tell me how the hell I am supposed to change my > lifestyle doing this?If I could wake the hell up in > the morning and be a famous rock star I would but Im > ron and I take care of my mom and everytime I ask > for help I get advice that just doesnt even apply to > my life. > > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? 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Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Don't sweat if Ron. You'll get through this knowing you did what was right and honorable. My doc got on me for gaining weight and not having several tests she recommended. I know she's right but she's also very wrong. I simply don't have time or tolerance for her lack of understanding so I haven't been back. When things simmer down on the homefront, I will find another doctor. I do need to take better care of myself and deal with several health issues but when there's a constant state of emergency, my health is not at the top of my to-do list. Dimwits, twits and the uniformed will say you need to take a vacation, you need to do something for yourself, you need to do this or that. What you really need is 72 hours in a day, siblings that share responsibility equally, limitless energy, the ability to live without eating, sleeping or spending money AND to have Poppins float by to clean your house, cook all meals and transform your mom to the person she was 20 years ago ... but since that's not going to happen this week, keep doing what you're doing because it's right and you're not going to neglect your responsibilities because of the shortcomings and stupidity of others. Have a great day despite LBD. You've earned it. Unfortunately, I can't help you with the forgetfulness. LBD is contagious and that's just the way it is. My brain is shot. I used to write things down in a notebook because there was so much to keep track of but I can never find the notebook so I stopped trying.to keep track of things. ron frye wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you all so much for reaching out and I cant tell you how great it feels to really be understood as if I am not from another planet.You all mean so much to me you could just never know.Whishing you all peace and happiness tonight and always and again Thank you so much for caring , I was deeply moved this evening when I saw all of the posts.Seriously wish I could just hug you all See what's new at Figure Photos & Anacostia Fine Art Be my friend on MySpace http://www.myspace.com/figurephotos --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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