Re: MRIs

[Guest guest]

For generic health info , I usually go to Merck first.

I was going to post some info, but I don't know if my links

are ever read or not (no offense).

http://www.merck.com/mmhe/index.html

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I found some of this information on the

> Internet, but I don't know the degree or how this information

> relates to my condition. I wish they would put it in laymen's

terms!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The bad news is you've got MS. You are in tune with your body and are doing

good, better than most, looking after yourself. Why put yourself through the

stress of an MRI just so your Neuro's can diagnose another " symptom " call it

another complaint and send you for more tests making more money on the way.

Knowing there is nothing they can do about it. If they had offered you a

drug that " might " help would you have taken it?

I've never had an MRI or Lumber Puncture, don't take drugs, don't have a

Neuro now, but I've still got the dreaded MS.

Not worth beating yourself up about. Keep up your good work.

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Don't get bent out of shape over your MRI results. In my opinion, what

appears on the readings might account for some mild back pain, but

probably has little or nothing to do with your ability to walk.

With best wishes,

Dudley

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

[Guest guest]

>mild facet degenerative changes???!!!

In other words, arthritis :-). Nothing to worry about. Pretty much everyone

over 40 has it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Allsion,

It sure seems to be taking alot of testing to determine what the cause

of your pain is. I did not think back things were so hard to figure out.

I want my husband to go and get his back looked at and would love if he

had an xray but he won't. He is convinced its bone on bone and no one is

going to tell him different. I think accupuncture would help him and

that its mostly muscle spasm related but he thinks differently. He is

going to be increasing somem of his supplements to 3x what he normally

takes to see if things will change. He was actualy doing well until he

fell from a ladder severl months ago. I hope you can get some answers, I

know that you are not going to do surgery or drugs but its good to know

for sure what is going on with the spine.

Pugh wrote:

> I had a series of MRIs taken yesterday (of my head and neck) and I

> got copies of the readings from the last series. Here are the

> results. I don't have the results from yesterday yet. One of them

> talked about a calcium deposit at the 12th rib on the right. It

> said it could be in the kidneys or bowel and that a CT scan would

> show a better picture. That could be a kidney stone and no one

> told me! I'm glad I got copies of the readings because I'm going to

> ask what they mean next week. There are several joints that

> are " slightly compromised " , whatever that means. One report said

> there were no discernable compressions but that there are some mild

> facet degenerative changes???!!! What does that mean in terms of my

> ability to walk? There was also nothing remarkable! (I think not

> walking is pretty remarkable.) There were 4 MRIs , one of each

> section of the spine. Where I feel back pain is where there were

> some mild facet degenerations. The report said they were compatible

> with my history of MS, but there were no discernable " outlined "

> lesions. There was mild discogenic change in the superior endplate

> of L-4 and subtle patchy increase of signal intensity. It goes on a

> little bit about a sequela of demyelination, but I don't have

> stenosis. I'm anxious to talk with the spine specialist and MS

> specialist next week. I found some of this information on the

> Internet, but I don't know the degree or how this information

> relates to my condition. I wish they would put it in laymen's terms!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , I too have been suffering from back problems for the last

2 1/2yrs. Herniated L5 disk and sciatica in the right leg. After two

rounds of PT, acupuncture, and two diff chiro's I found a PT who

within a month helped me get rid of the sciatica, and have made good

progress on the lumbar pain---still have periodic bad pain filled

days but I'm getting better. Once again two docs including a neuro

surgeon said these back problem could not be fixed w/o surgery, or a

very least steroid shots in the back. They were wrong!!

My back problems have slowed my MS healing, there are so many

exercises to help with learning to walk again and helping with

balance issues. Strengthening the core is the key to helping both

minor low back pain and also learning to walk again. Here is a good

website which really explains back problems and provides some

solutions.

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/category.cfm?topcategory=Spine

Also, I would recommend this book " healing back pain naturally " Art

Brownstein MD... He says in most cases you should never have surgery

for lower back problems..

Good luck with the pending results and your doc consult. You have

such a great attitude towards life.

Doug

>

> I had a series of MRIs taken yesterday (of my head and neck) and I

> got copies of the readings from the last series. Here are the

> results. I don't have the results from yesterday yet. One of them

> talked about a calcium deposit at the 12th rib on the right. It

> said it could be in the kidneys or bowel and that a CT scan would

> show a better picture. That could be a kidney stone and no one

> told me! I'm glad I got copies of the readings because I'm going

to

> ask what they mean next week. There are several joints that

> are " slightly compromised " , whatever that means. One report said

> there were no discernable compressions but that there are some mild

> facet degenerative changes???!!! What does that mean in terms of

my

> ability to walk? There was also nothing remarkable! (I think not

> walking is pretty remarkable.) There were 4 MRIs , one of each

> section of the spine. Where I feel back pain is where there were

> some mild facet degenerations. The report said they were

compatible

> with my history of MS, but there were no discernable " outlined "

> lesions. There was mild discogenic change in the superior endplate

> of L-4 and subtle patchy increase of signal intensity. It goes on

a

> little bit about a sequela of demyelination, but I don't have

> stenosis. I'm anxious to talk with the spine specialist and MS

> specialist next week. I found some of this information on the

> Internet, but I don't know the degree or how this information

> relates to my condition. I wish they would put it in laymen's

terms!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi all,

another good book on back pain is " healing back pain, the mind-body

connection " by dr. john sarno. he talks about non-surgical treatments

for many ailments. check it out!

michelle

[Guest guest]

Well by the time you get qualified for a mobilized scooter you will

already be mobilized and scooting around on your own 2 legs!!You can

always give the scooter away to someone who needs it more when you are

done with it. Everything is so specialized these day which is good and

bad. Once you know whats wrong you want a specialist, but unfortunately

the GP's are way behind in knowing about what to look for in all the

disease now days. There is just too much and they cannot keep up, so

diagnosis is really hard. Look at cancer you have to be 6 months from

dying before they can tell you that you have it, something wrong with

the diagnostics we have. I think way to much effort time and money is

being spent on new magical drugs and it should be spent on helping

people prevent and then if necessary diagnose them better.

Pugh wrote:

> Thanks . It seems like I've only ever been to the doctors for

> diagnosis. I've never used any medications. It seems like I only go

> to be approved for financial assistance or a referral for physical

> therapy. I haven't gotten any clear answers from allopathic doctors.

> I've only been for MRIs three times in three years, but the last

> couple were for several pics of my lower spine. The one I went for

> yesterday was to be able to get films for comparison to see if I have

> any new lesions or any cervical issues. I agreed to do this for my

> parents. I may also qualify for a mobilized scooter so I can get

> around outside. To do this, it has to be approved by a neurologist.

> They all get a piece of the pie.

>

> " Gin

[Guest guest]

I agree about preventative med, but big pharma has spent decades

developing the current business model, radically changing would be to

costly---besides sickly people are more profitable in their eyes..We

as consumers have to demand change. I see it happening here is St

Louis, the major hospitals are realizing their losing money to

alternative medical, so they've started incorporating alternatives as

options for paients. It will take time but change is happening.

Doug

>

> > Thanks . It seems like I've only ever been to the doctors

for

> > diagnosis. I've never used any medications. It seems like I only

go

> > to be approved for financial assistance or a referral for

physical

> > therapy. I haven't gotten any clear answers from allopathic

doctors.

> > I've only been for MRIs three times in three years, but the last

> > couple were for several pics of my lower spine. The one I went

for

> > yesterday was to be able to get films for comparison to see if I

have

> > any new lesions or any cervical issues. I agreed to do this for

my

> > parents. I may also qualify for a mobilized scooter so I can get

> > around outside. To do this, it has to be approved by a

neurologist.

> > They all get a piece of the pie.

> >

> > " Gin

>

[Guest guest]

, very good point....

Doug

>

> > I agree about preventative med, but big pharma has spent

decades

> > developing the current business model, radically changing would

be to

> > costly---besides sickly people are more profitable in their

eyes..We

> > as consumers have to demand change. I see it happening here is St

> > Louis, the major hospitals are realizing their losing money to

> > alternative medical, so they've started incorporating

alternatives as

> > options for paients. It will take time but change is happening.

> >

> > Doug

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie. There are exercises you can do that don't require standing. Doug

sent a link to a site that might help you.

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/fact/thr_report.cfm?Thread_ID=17 & topcategory=Spine

debbie Walter wrote: HI,

MYNAME IS DEBBIE. I AM 5ft 155 LBS. I CAN'Y WALK BECAUSE I'M SHORT * & FAT.

SO I CAN'T RXCERISE.

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