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Lilly, what patch do you use and what doseage. I heard they fall

off, or people are allergic to the adhesive, or that they wear off

sooner than they are supposed to. What has been your experience?

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> >

> > Val,

> >

> > I'm wondering if you apply your Oestrogel only once per day, in

the

> > a.m. or twice. I'm wanting to apply just nce in the a.m. but am

> > wondering if it might be too uch per application. I'm using 1.30

> g.

> > of Oestrogel 2x per day. I ent up from 1.25 twice per day and I

> > believe I feel a little better with a bit more, more energetic,

clear

> > headed and better outlook. I'm also still cycling Cyclogest 50

mg.

> > vaginally every 4-6 weeks.Thanks,

> >

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Val, I hve a small scale where I can weigh my Oestrogel. I've been

using the Cyclogest for 10 days and it is working well for me,

excepting that I get cravings for a few days. Haven't gained any

weight though. What are you using instead of Oestrogel?

When you applied the gel only once per day, did it wear off by

evening and did you have difficulty with sleeping or hot flashes at

night?

Thanks,

>

> You use 1.3 g 2x/day up from 1.25g 2x/day? How do you measure

1.3 g vs.

> 1.25 g?

>

> I am not using Estrogel right now. When I was using it, I used 1.5

mg

> estradiol once a day. That is = to 1 stick or 2 pumps.

>

> How many days do you use the Cyclogest 50 mg?

>

> Val

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

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> On Behalf Of menomama

>

> Val,

>

> I'm wondering if you apply your Oestrogel only once per day, in the

> a.m. or twice. I'm wanting to apply just nce in the a.m. but am

> wondering if it might be too uch per application. I'm using 1.30

g.

> of Oestrogel 2x per day. I ent up from 1.25 twice per day and I

> believe I feel a little better with a bit more, more energetic,

clear

> headed and better outlook. I'm also still cycling Cyclogest 50 mg.

> vaginally every 4-6 weeks.Thanks,

>

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If that is working for you, that is really wonderful. I felt a little OD'd

on 50 mg Cyclogest for 10 days/month. My chemistry is all messed up so I'm

probably not a good example.

I am not using any estrogen right now, but when I did use it once/day, I

never felt it wore off. I put it on fat parts. I am off all estrogen and

progesterone for the time being. I have an appointment at Mayo Clinic in

August. I'm going to have adrenal vein sampling to see of an aldosterone

over-producing adrenal can be localized. I've been pretty sick with high

aldosterone, low potassium, etc. (Conn's Syndrome).

Val

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Val, I hve a small scale where I can weigh my Oestrogel. I've been

using the Cyclogest for 10 days and it is working well for me,

excepting that I get cravings for a few days. Haven't gained any

weight though. What are you using instead of Oestrogel?

When you applied the gel only once per day, did it wear off by

evening and did you have difficulty with sleeping or hot flashes at

night?

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Thanks, . Yes, I do intend to go back on estrogen again. If one side

cannot be identified as the tumor side, I will have no choice but to take an

aldosterone blocker for the rest of my life. Aldactone blocks aldosterone

but it also blocks progesterone. There is one other called Inspra that

doesn't mess with the female hormones. I tried it but got quite nauseous on

it. If I have to stay on a blocker, I will just work up to a needed level

of that so I can safely use estrogen and P again.

I have some patches but by the time I tried them, I was already quite sick

with primary aldosteronism. I eventually got to the point where any

Estrogel or patch gave me terrible heart arrythmias. That stopped while on

Aldactone and I re-started Estrogel for a month. Prometrium didn't produce

a period so I was advised to stay off estrogen for the time being.

Thank you for your prayers. I pray that a aldosterone-producing tumor can

be located and removed. I could conceivably be well again.

Val

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Thanks Val. Do you plan to go back on estrogen? Did you try any

other forms of estradiol other than Oestrogel, that worked better for

you. What do you think of the dots or patches? Do you think they

tend to keep the serum level higher. I don't have side effects or

symptoms with the Oestrogel and feel pretty good. I tried using it

2.50 g (1.5 mg estradiol) 1x per day in the a.m. and it seems to

carry over fine and I can still sleep well and don't have hot

flashes.

I hope you can get to the bottom of what is wrong with you. I will

pray for you.

Thanks again,

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Val, what is aldosteronism? I have never heard of it before?

Thanks,

>

> Thanks, . Yes, I do intend to go back on estrogen again. If

one side

> cannot be identified as the tumor side, I will have no choice but

to take an

> aldosterone blocker for the rest of my life. Aldactone blocks

aldosterone

> but it also blocks progesterone. There is one other called Inspra

that

> doesn't mess with the female hormones. I tried it but got quite

nauseous on

> it. If I have to stay on a blocker, I will just work up to a

needed level

> of that so I can safely use estrogen and P again.

>

> I have some patches but by the time I tried them, I was already

quite sick

> with primary aldosteronism. I eventually got to the point where any

> Estrogel or patch gave me terrible heart arrythmias. That stopped

while on

> Aldactone and I re-started Estrogel for a month. Prometrium didn't

produce

> a period so I was advised to stay off estrogen for the time being.

>

> Thank you for your prayers. I pray that a aldosterone-producing

tumor can

> be located and removed. I could conceivably be well again.

>

> Val

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

[mailto:rhythmicliving ]

> On Behalf Of menomama

>

> Thanks Val. Do you plan to go back on estrogen? Did you try any

> other forms of estradiol other than Oestrogel, that worked better

for

> you. What do you think of the dots or patches? Do you think they

> tend to keep the serum level higher. I don't have side effects or

> symptoms with the Oestrogel and feel pretty good. I tried using it

> 2.50 g (1.5 mg estradiol) 1x per day in the a.m. and it seems to

> carry over fine and I can still sleep well and don't have hot

> flashes.

>

> I hope you can get to the bottom of what is wrong with you. I will

> pray for you.

>

> Thanks again,

>

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Another name is Conn's Syndrome. It is a condition where one or both

adrenals over-produce aldosterone. If one is over-producing, it is curable

by removing the adrenal with the tumor. If both are over-producing, it is

idiopathic hyperplasia and is treatable only with an aldosterone-blocking

med.

Val

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Val, what is aldosteronism? I have never heard of it before?

Thanks,

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Oh Crap! Val I didn't know this was going on with you. I'm so sorry.

I read about this when I was " losing it " with my own health, not

knowing what was going on. And thought it would be just aweful to

face something like that! Thyroids and adrenal glands are

not " appendexes " ... they're necessary to keep ... that sucks.

Please let us know how it turns out. And break a leg for the best

outcome. (cuz you know a broken leg is much easier to fix!) :)

warm wishes,

julie

>

> Another name is Conn's Syndrome. It is a condition where one or

both

> adrenals over-produce aldosterone. If one is over-producing, it is

curable

> by removing the adrenal with the tumor. If both are over-

producing, it is

> idiopathic hyperplasia and is treatable only with an aldosterone-

blocking

> med.

>

> Val

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

[mailto:rhythmicliving ]

> On Behalf Of menomama

>

> Val, what is aldosteronism? I have never heard of it before?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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Thanks, . I'd rather have a broken leg. I have been on an

aldo-blocking med for three months. It did drop my blood pressure way low

but it did not block all of the negative effects of excess aldosterone. I'm

praying for a tumor to be found.

Val

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From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

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Oh Crap! Val I didn't know this was going on with you. I'm so sorry.

I read about this when I was " losing it " with my own health, not

knowing what was going on. And thought it would be just aweful to

face something like that! Thyroids and adrenal glands are

not " appendexes " ... they're necessary to keep ... that sucks.

Please let us know how it turns out. And break a leg for the best

outcome. (cuz you know a broken leg is much easier to fix!) :)

warm wishes,

julie

>

> Another name is Conn's Syndrome. It is a condition where one or

both

> adrenals over-produce aldosterone. If one is over-producing, it is

curable

> by removing the adrenal with the tumor. If both are over-

producing, it is

> idiopathic hyperplasia and is treatable only with an aldosterone-

blocking

> med.

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