Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 This is very interesting to me since I lived on antihistamines for years prior to my most debilitating symptoms kicked in. I am researching this some more and have asked a doctor I know about histamine. I will see what he has to say. Pugh wrote: > > > Multiple Sclerosis: A Revival of Hope > > by V. , MD© > > reprinted from Nutrition and Healing newsletter > > October 1999 > > > Imagine watching a woman with multiple sclerosis of many years > duration (who had previously needed a " walker " to help her get > around) walking unaided several times around a room at good speed, > and with no balance problems. Imagine listening to her say she's > sleeping better, her energy is much improved, and that she's able to > think more clearly. She attributes her dramatic improvement to the > natural amino acid derivative she's been using for the previous two > to three weeks. Imagine hearing another woman, much more seriously > afflicted, report that she's able to feed herself again, and that > her friends and relatives had all noticed her speech is easier to > understand. Both of these improvements occurred within a month of > starting the " new " natural amino acid derivative. > > Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 I have been so busy. At a horse show all day yesterday and busy last night. Daughter did really good at show, won championship in her division and over all high point, got lots of prizes and ribbons. I am of course very proud mama. The mystery of most illness will never be revealed in our lifetime, we just have to be diligent in trying everything in our power to get well and not poison ourselves anymore then we have to. Happy Mothers days to all the moms too! Pugh wrote: > Hi . I found it to be very interesting too. It seems like it's a > matter of fixing the small things and the big issues fall into place. > Kind of like " watch your pennies " . You've been away for awhile. > Welcome back. > > Happy Mother's Day, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Adam. The article is saying that people with MS often need increased histamines because the body is either not making them or they're being blocked by something. Anti-histamines are not recommended by the author of this article. Histamine therapy is what is being suggested. finnfan05 wrote: Hi Is the original article suggesting that Anti-Histamines are having a bad effect on MS etc? Apologies for the confusion. Thanks, Adam --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi OK, thanks for this. I was asking as my Brother (who has MS) takes a lot of Anti-Histamines and allergy tablets as they seem to help his sinuses/eyes/nose irratations. Thanks, Adam Hi > > Is the original article suggesting that Anti-Histamines are having a > bad effect on MS etc? Apologies for the confusion. > > Thanks, Adam > > > --------------------------------- > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Adam, I have asked a doctor I know about this since I lived on anti histamines for years. He has not responded back to me, but when he does I will let you know what he says. I had asked him specifically about colustrum also because there is a link between that and histamine and I do take colustrum and I no longer have allergies. Just so much to understand!! finnfan05 wrote: > Hi > > Is the original article suggesting that Anti-Histamines are having a > bad effect on MS etc? Apologies for the confusion. > > Thanks, Adam > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Thank you , I would be grateful for this. Thanks, Adam > > > Hi > > > > Is the original article suggesting that Anti-Histamines are having a > > bad effect on MS etc? Apologies for the confusion. > > > > Thanks, Adam > > > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hi Adam, He got back to me and did not reply to the lack of histamine in relation to MS. He only answered my question on Colostrum saying the following: Colostrum regulates/balances EVERY metabolic and physiological function in the body, including this histamine. So this was my answer on why I have no allergies but don't know if taking antihistamines for years had anything to do with my other MS symptoms. I am sure taking any kind of drug for years certainly is not a good idea. finnfan05 wrote: > Thank you , I would be grateful for this. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Hi OK, thanks for this. The problem is the anti-histamines are the only thing that seem to help my Brother's eyes/nose. Thanks, Adam > > > Thank you , I would be grateful for this. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Hi Adam, Antihistamines are all that I used too until I learned that there are ways you can actually get rid of allergies instead of treating symptoms. Right now is the worse allergy year ever in my area since we had so much continued rain, the grasses and pollens are horrible. I see people every day that are just miserable like I used to be and think its such a shame that they are suffering when they do not need to be. I wish your brother was more open to this kind of thinking. I don't know how long your brother has been taking the anti-histamines but for me they quit working after around 3 - 4 years. I was taking huge amounts and they would not even phase me, that is when I decided time for a change! finnfan05 wrote: > Hi > > OK, thanks for this. The problem is the anti-histamines are the only > thing that seem to help my Brother's eyes/nose. > > Thanks, Adam > > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hi OK, thanks. My Brother is very sceptical of allergy tests because one test 8 years ago totally destroyed his confidence in eating which, as he was/is having vomiting due to Gastroparesis, only added to the problems. If there are any immediate suggestions though re eyes/sinuses I am open minded and am grateful. Thanks , Adam > > > Hi > > > > OK, thanks for this. The problem is the anti-histamines are the only > > thing that seem to help my Brother's eyes/nose. > > > > Thanks, Adam > > > > --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hi Adam. Serrapeptase is good for inflammation and sinus problems. It's an enzyme that also digests scar tissue. I've taken it for quite awhile now and it's been good for edema in my feet and sinus headaches. finnfan05 wrote: Hi OK, thanks. My Brother is very sceptical of allergy tests because one test 8 years ago totally destroyed his confidence in eating which, as he was/is having vomiting due to Gastroparesis, only added to the problems. If there are any immediate suggestions though re eyes/sinuses I am open minded and am grateful. --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hey , this is interesting, every so often I'll take some advil when my back is bothering me, what I notice is the next day my ms related mobility issues decrease. This makes since to me, reduce inflammation and symptons improve. I realize the diet and food supplements I'm on are geared towards reducing inflammation, if I could help that along w/o the side effects of drugs that would be a good thing. Has Serrapeptase helped your ms?? How much are you taking, and what brand are you using. Any side effects---hard on any of the major organs?? Thanks doug > > Hi Adam. Serrapeptase is good for inflammation and sinus problems. It's an enzyme that also digests scar tissue. I've taken it for quite awhile now and it's been good for edema in my feet and sinus headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hi Doug. I take Serra Ezyme mega caps at 40,000iu (400 mg). I initially started with 3/day and increased to 3x3. Eventually I tapered off and now take 3/day again. Sometimes I skip a week or so. What it has helped me with is edema. I don't have many of the symptoms I used to have. Whether it's solely because of diet, glyconutrients, serrapeptase, vitamins/minerals/enzymes, Padma 28 (Adaptrin) or determination, I can't tell you. I believe it's the combination. I don't have chronic pain anymore and I don't get many sinus headaches (like I used to). I still get backaches from sitting too long or twisting when I walk, but I don' t have leg pains very often. I can also tell when I don't take serrapeptase because my feet swell. I got headaches when I first started taking serrapeptase, but I was going through an exacerbation/herxheimer reaction at the time and other things could have caused the headaches. I don't get any negative side effects from serrapeptase now. I buy mine from Good Health Naturally. They always have a deal, buy 3 get one free. There is some information on their site that might help you. I initially started with a lower dose and quickly switched to the 40,000 iu. http://goodhealthusa.com msmonew wrote: Hey , this is interesting, every so often I'll take some advil when my back is bothering me, what I notice is the next day my ms related mobility issues decrease. This makes since to me, reduce inflammation and symptons improve. I realize the diet and food supplements I'm on are geared towards reducing inflammation, if I could help that along w/o the side effects of drugs that would be a good thing. Has Serrapeptase helped your ms?? How much are you taking, and what brand are you using. Any side effects---hard on any of the major organs?? Thanks doug --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 thanks Doug > Hey , this is interesting, every so often I'll take some advil > when my back is bothering me, what I notice is the next day my ms > related mobility issues decrease. This makes since to me, reduce > inflammation and symptons improve. I realize the diet and food > supplements I'm on are geared towards reducing inflammation, if I > could help that along w/o the side effects of drugs that would be a > good thing. > > Has Serrapeptase helped your ms?? How much are you taking, and what > brand are you using. Any side effects---hard on any of the major > organs?? > > Thanks > doug > > > > --------------------------------- > Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Thanks you for this. Very much appreacited. Do you know if it clashed with any other meds or supplements? Thanks again, Adam Hi > > OK, thanks. My Brother is very sceptical of allergy tests because one > test 8 years ago totally destroyed his confidence in eating which, as > he was/is having vomiting due to Gastroparesis, only added to the > problems. > > If there are any immediate suggestions though re eyes/sinuses I am > open minded and am grateful. > > > > --------------------------------- > Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 You're welcome Adam. It's an enzyme from silk worms. I didn't find any contraindications. There are a lot of studies on the Internet. I've never seen any negative ones. finnfan05 wrote: Thanks you for this. Very much appreacited. Do you know if it clashed with any other meds or supplements? Thanks again, Adam --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hi Adam, I am sure the allergies are most likely caused by bowel problems and lack of nutrition because of his other illnesess. Its really hard to sometime get out of the cycle of ill health. If he is not on board with supporting the systems of his body that need help the only options are the drugs that make you feel better. These are short term fixes at best but like I said even the drugs did not work for me after a few years. Digestive enzymes, pro-biotics, would help his bowel and the Manna-C would all help him feel better now. finnfan05 wrote: > Hi > > OK, thanks. My Brother is very sceptical of allergy tests because one > test 8 years ago totally destroyed his confidence in eating which, as > he was/is having vomiting due to Gastroparesis, only added to the > problems. > > If there are any immediate suggestions though re eyes/sinuses I am > open minded and am grateful. > > Thanks , Adam > > --- In Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hi Doug, Have you tried the SPORT yet, and are you taking the PLUS??? Those two things can really help along with what you are taking already. msmonew wrote: > Hey , this is interesting, every so often I'll take some advil > when my back is bothering me, what I notice is the next day my ms > related mobility issues decrease. This makes since to me, reduce > inflammation and symptons improve. I realize the diet and food > supplements I'm on are geared towards reducing inflammation, if I > could help that along w/o the side effects of drugs that would be a > good thing. > > Has Serrapeptase helped your ms?? How much are you taking, and what > brand are you using. Any side effects---hard on any of the major > organs?? > > Thanks > doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Thank you again . Take care, Adam Thanks you for this. Very much appreacited. Do you know if it > clashed with any other meds or supplements? > > Thanks again, Adam > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Hi Thank you once again for the info and your suggestions. Take Care, Adam > > > Hi > > > > OK, thanks. My Brother is very sceptical of allergy tests because one > > test 8 years ago totally destroyed his confidence in eating which, as > > he was/is having vomiting due to Gastroparesis, only added to the > > problems. > > > > If there are any immediate suggestions though re eyes/sinuses I am > > open minded and am grateful. > > > > Thanks , Adam > > > > --- In > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 I forgot to say my Brother does take Bromalein which he thinks helps his digestion after meals. Thanks, Adam > > > Hi > > > > OK, thanks. My Brother is very sceptical of allergy tests because one > > test 8 years ago totally destroyed his confidence in eating which, as > > he was/is having vomiting due to Gastroparesis, only added to the > > problems. > > > > If there are any immediate suggestions though re eyes/sinuses I am > > open minded and am grateful. > > > > Thanks , Adam > > > > --- In > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Hi Adam, Perhaps if he is accepting of enzymes you could get him a more broad spectrum enzyme and some pro-biotics, or a combo product, these can be so helpful in replenishing the gut and when the gut is more happy then other functions will be better. Bromalein is good but for me it was not enough to make a big difference. finnfan05 wrote: > I forgot to say my Brother does take Bromalein which he thinks helps > his digestion after meals. > > Thanks, Adam > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Hi Thanks again for this. Can you recommend any that are suitable for people with Coeliac's Disease and that are lactose free? Also, do they clash with any meds and when is best to take them? So may questions! Thanks, Adam > > > I forgot to say my Brother does take Bromalein which he thinks helps > > his digestion after meals. > > > > Thanks, Adam > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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