Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 TSH is a thyroid hormone. The pituitary makes it to stimulate the thyroid...hence the name Thyroid stimulating hormone. The pituitary is kind of the brains of our hormones...it reacts to different levels of different hormones by secreting more or less of other hormones. We get that your asthma went away when you treated the thyroid issue..and that your hives went away after you avoided yellow #5. I just wish you would also understand or accept that it is not going to work for every asthmatic. Im glad your asthma went away...but for alot of people with asthma, the reality is that it is not always related to a secondary condition and that it will not ever go away.Ann Re: Prednisone effects These are my "normal" thyroid labs when I was whistling and wheezing every night, while taking 1.5 grain Armour Thyroid. (My dose was reduced from 1.75 grain because at that dose, my TSH went below range.) TSH .59 (.4-5.5) Free T3 323 (230-420) Free T4 .8 (.8-1.8) These are my latest labs taking 1-1/8 grain Erfa Thyroid + 75 mcg levothyroxine. TSH .01 L (.4-4.5) Free T3 400 (230-420) Free T4 1.4 (.8-1.8) Now my labs are "abnormal" if you believe in the TSH, which is not even a thyroid, but pituitary hormone. Free T3 and Free T4 are actually still in range, just much higher in range. And my body's response? Nightly asthma with the first set of labs, NONE (I don't own an inhaler) with the second set. If you want to explore this further, check out the medical journal references #11-14 here: http://tiredthyroid.com/asthma.html Then read some of the other sections so you can talk intelligently to your doctor about this and maybe get more testing. I felt compelled to share this because I no longer have hives since avoiding yellow #5, and no longer have asthma since I brought my thyroid levels up. But I can only present the information as something worth looking into. You are all free to believe what you want and to make your own health choices. Wishing everyone better health, Barb > > > > > > > > > Barb and > > > Some people who take oral bisphosphonates (Fosamax, Boniva, etc) get a sore > > >stomach or esophagus, especially if they don't take them on an empty stomach > >or > > > > >lay down without first waiting 1/2 hour for them to get through the stomach. I > > > > >already had stomach problems so my endocrinologist gives me IV bisphosphonates > > > > >(pamidronate, Zometa, ec) a couple of times a year and bypasses the stomach > > >altogether. > > > > > > > > > Some people get a flu-like feeling right after the IV. People can get > > >osteonecrosis of the jaw as a side effect but they're usually not taking it > >the > > > > >way we would. Necrosis seems mostly to happen to people who take huge > >quantities > > > > >as part of their cancer treatment, much more than you need for bone density. I > > > > >opted for IV pamidronate, a small dose of 30 mg 4X a year, then after my bone > > > >density went up, 2X a year. No side effects at all. > > > > > > > > > The N-telopeptide test has no side effects. You simply give them your second > > > >morning urine and they tell you if your bone is breaking down too fast or not. > > > > >If you want to get fancy they have another test to tell you how well you're > > >forming new bone - a bone specific alkaline phosphatase blood test. No side > > >effects with that either. > > > > > > I really don't want to sound obnoxious or like a know it all but people > >should > > > > >carefully weigh the side effect potential against the devastation of > > >osteoporosis. For me it was a no brainer. My hips and spine were in bad shape. > > > > >Approx 50% of men with broken hips die within a year. I had already tried > > >calcium and vitamin D. They weren't enough and the endocrinologist said it's > > >usually not when you're on prednisone. Sorry for the preaching. > > > Larry > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 TSH is NOT a thyroid hormone. A thyroid hormone is something made by the thyroid, which would be T4, T3, T2, T1, etc. TSH is made by the pituitary, which makes hormones for multiple organs, including the thyroid, ovaries, testes, etc. LH and FSH are other pituitary hormones, estrogen and testosterone are the actual hormones made by the organs. Hypothyroidism is grossly underdiagnosed, because western medicine believes that TSH is a good diagnostic, because it is what western medicine preaches when it is, in fact, incorrect. I get that your asthma may not be thyroid related, but you are not the only one on this board. I just wish you would also understand or accept that it might be the problem for some. Some have already hinted that it could be, and they just can't get properly tested or treated, and are told, of course, that their TSH is " normal. " And of course, a condition never goes away if the cause is never fixed. How ironic that I'm wasting my breath on an asthma board. Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barb and > > > > > Some people who take oral bisphosphonates (Fosamax, Boniva, etc) get a sore > > > > >stomach or esophagus, especially if they don't take them on an empty stomach > > > >or > > > > > > > > >lay down without first waiting 1/2 hour for them to get through the stomach. I > > > > > > > > >already had stomach problems so my endocrinologist gives me IV bisphosphonates > > > > > > > > >(pamidronate, Zometa, ec) a couple of times a year and bypasses the stomach > > > > >altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people get a flu-like feeling right after the IV. People can get > > > > >osteonecrosis of the jaw as a side effect but they're usually not taking it > > > >the > > > > > > > > >way we would. Necrosis seems mostly to happen to people who take huge > > > >quantities > > > > > > > > >as part of their cancer treatment, much more than you need for bone density. I > > > > > > > > >opted for IV pamidronate, a small dose of 30 mg 4X a year, then after my bone > > > > > > > >density went up, 2X a year. No side effects at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The N-telopeptide test has no side effects. You simply give them your second > > > > > > > >morning urine and they tell you if your bone is breaking down too fast or not. > > > > > > > > >If you want to get fancy they have another test to tell you how well you're > > > > >forming new bone - a bone specific alkaline phosphatase blood test. No side > > > > >effects with that either. > > > > > > > > > > I really don't want to sound obnoxious or like a know it all but people > > > >should > > > > > > > > >carefully weigh the side effect potential against the devastation of > > > > >osteoporosis. For me it was a no brainer. My hips and spine were in bad shape. > > > > > > > > >Approx 50% of men with broken hips die within a year. I had already tried > > > > >calcium and vitamin D. They weren't enough and the endocrinologist said it's > > > > >usually not when you're on prednisone. Sorry for the preaching. > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Everyone is different. I have to agree with Ann - you have found a cause behind your asthma, but it isn't the case for everyone. Each time I read one of your posts I get a sense of déjà vu as you keep mentioning this over and over again. For people for whom this may be the case they have already read it several times. There are also a lot of people for whom it isn't going to be the case.You say the problem won't go away if the cause isn't fixed - for some people there just isn't a cause, or certainly not one that can be fixed. I developed asthma after living in a badly damp flat at uni, where the wallpaper fell off the wall at one point as the mould was that bad. But the asthma remained when I moved out, even though I've been living since in places with no damp problem. That's one where the 'cause', therefore, cannot be fixed, other than turn back time 4 years and I'll put more pressure on the landlord to sort it. Madeline's issues were caused by an ozone leak; that again is something that isn't going to go away other than being treated. For some illnesses there just isn't a cause that can be treated, much as some people would love there to be. I'm sure there are lots of type 1 diabetics (as type two there often is an underlying cause that can be rectified) would love there to be a cure... but there isn't. Same goes for asthma for most people. JennTha can tek t'lass outta Yorkshire...! Don't brand me, don't classify me, don't tell me what to wear. I'll be who I want to be, and I'm proud to be me.Subject: Re: Prednisone effectsTo: asthma Date: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011, 3:50TSH is NOT a thyroid hormone. A thyroid hormone is something made by the thyroid, which would be T4, T3, T2, T1, etc. TSH is made by the pituitary, which makes hormones for multiple organs, including the thyroid, ovaries, testes, etc. LH and FSH are other pituitary hormones, estrogen and testosterone are the actual hormones made by the organs. Hypothyroidism is grossly underdiagnosed, because western medicine believes that TSH is a good diagnostic, because it is what western medicine preaches when it is, in fact, incorrect.I get that your asthma may not be thyroid related, but you are not the only one on this board. I just wish you would also understand or accept that it might be the problem for some. Some have already hinted that it could be, and they just can't get properly tested or treated, and are told, of course, that their TSH is "normal." And of course, a condition never goes away if the cause is never fixed. How ironic that I'm wasting my breath on an asthma board.Barb> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Barb and > > > > > Some people who take oral bisphosphonates (Fosamax, Boniva, etc) get a sore> > > > >stomach or esophagus, especially if they don't take them on an empty stomach> > > >or> > > >> > > > >lay down without first waiting 1/2 hour for them to get through the stomach. I> > > >> > > > >already had stomach problems so my endocrinologist gives me IV bisphosphonates> > > >> > > > >(pamidronate, Zometa, ec) a couple of times a year and bypasses the stomach> > > > >altogether.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Some people get a flu-like feeling right after the IV. People can get> > > > >osteonecrosis of the jaw as a side effect but they're usually not taking it> > > >the> > > >> > > > >way we would. Necrosis seems mostly to happen to people who take huge> > > >quantities> > > >> > > > >as part of their cancer treatment, much more than you need for bone density. I> > > >> > > > >opted for IV pamidronate, a small dose of 30 mg 4X a year, then after my bone> > >> > > > >density went up, 2X a year. No side effects at all.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The N-telopeptide test has no side effects. You simply give them your second> > >> > > > >morning urine and they tell you if your bone is breaking down too fast or not.> > > >> > > > >If you want to get fancy they have another test to tell you how well you're> > > > >forming new bone - a bone specific alkaline phosphatase blood test. No side> > > > >effects with that either.> > > > >> > > > > I really don't want to sound obnoxious or like a know it all but people> > > >should> > > >> > > > >carefully weigh the side effect potential against the devastation of> > > > >osteoporosis. For me it was a no brainer. My hips and spine were in bad shape.> > > >> > > > >Approx 50% of men with broken hips die within a year. I had already tried > > > > >calcium and vitamin D. They weren't enough and the endocrinologist said it's> > > > >usually not when you're on prednisone. Sorry for the preaching.> > > > > Larry> > > > >> > > >> > >>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 , thank you for your polite and explanatory post. Knowing where you all are coming from instead of just being dimissive is helpful to me. I'm sorry to anyone I've offended and wish you all well. Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barb and > > > > > > > Some people who take oral bisphosphonates (Fosamax, Boniva, etc) get a sore > > > > > > >stomach or esophagus, especially if they don't take them on an empty stomach > > > > > >or > > > > > > > > > > > > >lay down without first waiting 1/2 hour for them to get through the stomach. I > > > > > > > > > > > > >already had stomach problems so my endocrinologist gives me IV bisphosphonates > > > > > > > > > > > > >(pamidronate, Zometa, ec) a couple of times a year and bypasses the stomach > > > > > > >altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people get a flu-like feeling right after the IV. People can get > > > > > > >osteonecrosis of the jaw as a side effect but they're usually not taking it > > > > > >the > > > > > > > > > > > > >way we would. Necrosis seems mostly to happen to people who take huge > > > > > >quantities > > > > > > > > > > > > >as part of their cancer treatment, much more than you need for bone density. I > > > > > > > > > > > > >opted for IV pamidronate, a small dose of 30 mg 4X a year, then after my bone > > > > > > > > > > > >density went up, 2X a year. No side effects at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The N-telopeptide test has no side effects. You simply give them your second > > > > > > > > > > > >morning urine and they tell you if your bone is breaking down too fast or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > >If you want to get fancy they have another test to tell you how well you're > > > > > > >forming new bone - a bone specific alkaline phosphatase blood test. No side > > > > > > >effects with that either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really don't want to sound obnoxious or like a know it all but people > > > > > >should > > > > > > > > > > > > >carefully weigh the side effect potential against the devastation of > > > > > > >osteoporosis. For me it was a no brainer. My hips and spine were in bad shape. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Approx 50% of men with broken hips die within a year. I had already tried > > > > > > >calcium and vitamin D. They weren't enough and the endocrinologist said it's > > > > > > >usually not when you're on prednisone. Sorry for the preaching. > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Same with me, after living in a succession over a large number of years of cold apartments, I developed asthma. Now, I don't blame it all on that, when I was growing up, my father smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day around all of us children. Plus through most of my life everyone around me smoked. I didn't. Also I and several members of my family worked in a U.S. steel mill, with asbestos, which my father died from, the asbestos that is, mesothelioma. So I just think that the whole life time of breathing in this stuff, plus, the damp cold in the last few apartments, just was sort of the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak...............To: asthma Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 3:03:39 AMSubject: Re: Re: Prednisone effects Everyone is different. I have to agree with Ann - you have found a cause behind your asthma, but it isn't the case for everyone. Each time I read one of your posts I get a sense of déjà vu as you keep mentioning this over and over again. For people for whom this may be the case they have already read it several times. There are also a lot of people for whom it isn't going to be the case.You say the problem won't go away if the cause isn't fixed - for some people there just isn't a cause, or certainly not one that can be fixed. I developed asthma after living in a badly damp flat at uni, where the wallpaper fell off the wall at one point as the mould was that bad. But the asthma remained when I moved out, even though I've been living since in places with no damp problem. That's one where the 'cause', therefore, cannot be fixed, other than turn back time 4 years and I'll put more pressure on the landlord to sort it. Madeline's issues were caused by an ozone leak; that again is something that isn't going to go away other than being treated. For some illnesses there just isn't a cause that can be treated, much as some people would love there to be. I'm sure there are lots of type 1 diabetics (as type two there often is an underlying cause that can be rectified) would love there to be a cure... but there isn't. Same goes for asthma for most people. JennTha can tek t'lass outta Yorkshire...! Don't brand me, don't classify me, don't tell me what to wear. I'll be who I want to be, and I'm proud to be me.Subject: Re: Prednisone effectsTo: asthma Date: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011, 3:50TSH is NOT a thyroid hormone. A thyroid hormone is something made by the thyroid, which would be T4, T3, T2, T1, etc. TSH is made by the pituitary, which makes hormones for multiple organs, including the thyroid, ovaries, testes, etc. LH and FSH are other pituitary hormones, estrogen and testosterone are the actual hormones made by the organs. Hypothyroidism is grossly underdiagnosed, because western medicine believes that TSH is a good diagnostic, because it is what western medicine preaches when it is, in fact, incorrect.I get that your asthma may not be thyroid related, but you are not the only one on this board. I just wish you would also understand or accept that it might be the problem for some. Some have already hinted that it could be, and they just can't get properly tested or treated, and are told, of course, that their TSH is "normal." And of course, a condition never goes away if the cause is never fixed. How ironic that I'm wasting my breath on an asthma board.Barb> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Barb and > > > > > Some people who take oral bisphosphonates (Fosamax, Boniva, etc) get a sore> > > > >stomach or esophagus, especially if they don't take them on an empty stomach> > > >or> > > >> > > > >lay down without first waiting 1/2 hour for them to get through the stomach. I> > > >> > > > >already had stomach problems so my endocrinologist gives me IV bisphosphonates> > > >> > > > >(pamidronate, Zometa, ec) a couple of times a year and bypasses the stomach> > > > >altogether.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Some people get a flu-like feeling right after the IV. People can get> > > > >osteonecrosis of the jaw as a side effect but they're usually not taking it> > > >the> > > >> > > > >way we would. Necrosis seems mostly to happen to people who take huge> > > >quantities> > > >> > > > >as part of their cancer treatment, much more than you need for bone density. I> > > >> > > > >opted for IV pamidronate, a small dose of 30 mg 4X a year, then after my bone> > >> > > > >density went up, 2X a year. No side effects at all.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The N-telopeptide test has no side effects. You simply give them your second> > >> > > > >morning urine and they tell you if your bone is breaking down too fast or not.> > > >> > > > >If you want to get fancy they have another test to tell you how well you're> > > > >forming new bone - a bone specific alkaline phosphatase blood test. No side> > > > >effects with that either.> > > > >> > > > > I really don't want to sound obnoxious or like a know it all but people> > > >should> > > >> > > > >carefully weigh the side effect potential against the devastation of> > > > >osteoporosis. For me it was a no brainer. My hips and spine were in bad shape.> > > >> > > > >Approx 50% of men with broken hips die within a year. I had already tried > > > > >calcium and vitamin D. They weren't enough and the endocrinologist said it's> > > > >usually not when you're on prednisone. Sorry for the preaching.> > > > > Larry> > > > >> > > >> > >>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Should have put this on the other reply. So there you have it, cause and effect.To: asthma Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 3:03:39 AMSubject: Re: Re: Prednisone effects Everyone is different. I have to agree with Ann - you have found a cause behind your asthma, but it isn't the case for everyone. Each time I read one of your posts I get a sense of déjà vu as you keep mentioning this over and over again. For people for whom this may be the case they have already read it several times. There are also a lot of people for whom it isn't going to be the case.You say the problem won't go away if the cause isn't fixed - for some people there just isn't a cause, or certainly not one that can be fixed. I developed asthma after living in a badly damp flat at uni, where the wallpaper fell off the wall at one point as the mould was that bad. But the asthma remained when I moved out, even though I've been living since in places with no damp problem. That's one where the 'cause', therefore, cannot be fixed, other than turn back time 4 years and I'll put more pressure on the landlord to sort it. Madeline's issues were caused by an ozone leak; that again is something that isn't going to go away other than being treated. For some illnesses there just isn't a cause that can be treated, much as some people would love there to be. I'm sure there are lots of type 1 diabetics (as type two there often is an underlying cause that can be rectified) would love there to be a cure... but there isn't. Same goes for asthma for most people. JennTha can tek t'lass outta Yorkshire...! Don't brand me, don't classify me, don't tell me what to wear. I'll be who I want to be, and I'm proud to be me.Subject: Re: Prednisone effectsTo: asthma Date: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011, 3:50TSH is NOT a thyroid hormone. A thyroid hormone is something made by the thyroid, which would be T4, T3, T2, T1, etc. TSH is made by the pituitary, which makes hormones for multiple organs, including the thyroid, ovaries, testes, etc. LH and FSH are other pituitary hormones, estrogen and testosterone are the actual hormones made by the organs. Hypothyroidism is grossly underdiagnosed, because western medicine believes that TSH is a good diagnostic, because it is what western medicine preaches when it is, in fact, incorrect.I get that your asthma may not be thyroid related, but you are not the only one on this board. I just wish you would also understand or accept that it might be the problem for some. Some have already hinted that it could be, and they just can't get properly tested or treated, and are told, of course, that their TSH is "normal." And of course, a condition never goes away if the cause is never fixed. How ironic that I'm wasting my breath on an asthma board.Barb> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Barb and > > > > > Some people who take oral bisphosphonates (Fosamax, Boniva, etc) get a sore> > > > >stomach or esophagus, especially if they don't take them on an empty stomach> > > >or> > > >> > > > >lay down without first waiting 1/2 hour for them to get through the stomach. I> > > >> > > > >already had stomach problems so my endocrinologist gives me IV bisphosphonates> > > >> > > > >(pamidronate, Zometa, ec) a couple of times a year and bypasses the stomach> > > > >altogether.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Some people get a flu-like feeling right after the IV. People can get> > > > >osteonecrosis of the jaw as a side effect but they're usually not taking it> > > >the> > > >> > > > >way we would. Necrosis seems mostly to happen to people who take huge> > > >quantities> > > >> > > > >as part of their cancer treatment, much more than you need for bone density. I> > > >> > > > >opted for IV pamidronate, a small dose of 30 mg 4X a year, then after my bone> > >> > > > >density went up, 2X a year. No side effects at all.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The N-telopeptide test has no side effects. You simply give them your second> > >> > > > >morning urine and they tell you if your bone is breaking down too fast or not.> > > >> > > > >If you want to get fancy they have another test to tell you how well you're> > > > >forming new bone - a bone specific alkaline phosphatase blood test. No side> > > > >effects with that either.> > > > >> > > > > I really don't want to sound obnoxious or like a know it all but people> > > >should> > > >> > > > >carefully weigh the side effect potential against the devastation of> > > > >osteoporosis. For me it was a no brainer. My hips and spine were in bad shape.> > > >> > > > >Approx 50% of men with broken hips die within a year. I had already tried > > > > >calcium and vitamin D. They weren't enough and the endocrinologist said it's> > > > >usually not when you're on prednisone. Sorry for the preaching.> > > > > Larry> > > > >> > > >> > >>------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I understood what you were referring to Willow...but thank you! Ann Re: Prednisone effects To: asthma Date: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011, 3:50 TSH is NOT a thyroid hormone. A thyroid hormone is something made by the thyroid, which would be T4, T3, T2, T1, etc. TSH is made by the pituitary, which makes hormones for multiple organs, including the thyroid, ovaries, testes, etc. LH and FSH are other pituitary hormones, estrogen and testosterone are the actual hormones made by the organs. Hypothyroidism is grossly underdiagnosed, because western medicine believes that TSH is a good diagnostic, because it is what western medicine preaches when it is, in fact, incorrect. I get that your asthma may not be thyroid related, but you are not the only one on this board. I just wish you would also understand or accept that it might be the problem for some. Some have already hinted that it could be, and they just can't get properly tested or treated, and are told, of course, that their TSH is "normal." And of course, a condition never goes away if the cause is never fixed. How ironic that I'm wasting my breath on an asthma board. Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barb and > > > > > Some people who take oral bisphosphonates (Fosamax, Boniva, etc) get a sore > > > > >stomach or esophagus, especially if they don't take them on an empty stomach > > > >or > > > > > > > > >lay down without first waiting 1/2 hour for them to get through the stomach. I > > > > > > > > >already had stomach problems so my endocrinologist gives me IV bisphosphonates > > > > > > > > >(pamidronate, Zometa, ec) a couple of times a year and bypasses the stomach > > > > >altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people get a flu-like feeling right after the IV. People can get > > > > >osteonecrosis of the jaw as a side effect but they're usually not taking it > > > >the > > > > > > > > >way we would. Necrosis seems mostly to happen to people who take huge > > > >quantities > > > > > > > > >as part of their cancer treatment, much more than you need for bone density. I > > > > > > > > >opted for IV pamidronate, a small dose of 30 mg 4X a year, then after my bone > > > > > > > >density went up, 2X a year. No side effects at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The N-telopeptide test has no side effects. You simply give them your second > > > > > > > >morning urine and they tell you if your bone is breaking down too fast or not. > > > > > > > > >If you want to get fancy they have another test to tell you how well you're > > > > >forming new bone - a bone specific alkaline phosphatase blood test. No side > > > > >effects with that either. > > > > > > > > > > I really don't want to sound obnoxious or like a know it all but people > > > >should > > > > > > > > >carefully weigh the side effect potential against the devastation of > > > > >osteoporosis. For me it was a no brainer. My hips and spine were in bad shape. > > > > > > > > >Approx 50% of men with broken hips die within a year. I had already tried > > > > >calcium and vitamin D. They weren't enough and the endocrinologist said it's > > > > >usually not when you're on prednisone. Sorry for the preaching. > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Oh, I didn't mean it was that way for you, just myself. That was my story. LOL.To: asthma Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 8:32:07 PMSubject: Re: Re: Prednisone effects I understood what you were referring to Willow...but thank you! Ann Re: Prednisone effects To: asthma Date: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011, 3:50 TSH is NOT a thyroid hormone. A thyroid hormone is something made by the thyroid, which would be T4, T3, T2, T1, etc. TSH is made by the pituitary, which makes hormones for multiple organs, including the thyroid, ovaries, testes, etc. LH and FSH are other pituitary hormones, estrogen and testosterone are the actual hormones made by the organs. Hypothyroidism is grossly underdiagnosed, because western medicine believes that TSH is a good diagnostic, because it is what western medicine preaches when it is, in fact, incorrect. I get that your asthma may not be thyroid related, but you are not the only one on this board. I just wish you would also understand or accept that it might be the problem for some. Some have already hinted that it could be, and they just can't get properly tested or treated, and are told, of course, that their TSH is "normal." And of course, a condition never goes away if the cause is never fixed. How ironic that I'm wasting my breath on an asthma board. Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barb and > > > > > Some people who take oral bisphosphonates (Fosamax, Boniva, etc) get a sore > > > > >stomach or esophagus, especially if they don't take them on an empty stomach > > > >or > > > > > > > > >lay down without first waiting 1/2 hour for them to get through the stomach. I > > > > > > > > >already had stomach problems so my endocrinologist gives me IV bisphosphonates > > > > > > > > >(pamidronate, Zometa, ec) a couple of times a year and bypasses the stomach > > > > >altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people get a flu-like feeling right after the IV. People can get > > > > >osteonecrosis of the jaw as a side effect but they're usually not taking it > > > >the > > > > > > > > >way we would. Necrosis seems mostly to happen to people who take huge > > > >quantities > > > > > > > > >as part of their cancer treatment, much more than you need for bone density. I > > > > > > > > >opted for IV pamidronate, a small dose of 30 mg 4X a year, then after my bone > > > > > > > >density went up, 2X a year. No side effects at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The N-telopeptide test has no side effects. You simply give them your second > > > > > > > >morning urine and they tell you if your bone is breaking down too fast or not. > > > > > > > > >If you want to get fancy they have another test to tell you how well you're > > > > >forming new bone - a bone specific alkaline phosphatase blood test. No side > > > > >effects with that either. > > > > > > > > > > I really don't want to sound obnoxious or like a know it all but people > > > >should > > > > > > > > >carefully weigh the side effect potential against the devastation of > > > > >osteoporosis. For me it was a no brainer. My hips and spine were in bad shape. > > > > > > > > >Approx 50% of men with broken hips die within a year. I had already tried > > > > >calcium and vitamin D. They weren't enough and the endocrinologist said it's > > > > >usually not when you're on prednisone. Sorry for the preaching. > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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