Re: Swallowing Update on Jim

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Thanks for the update Jan. Whew!! Re: your question. Yes, my mom

saw my deceased dad in the early and mid stages. He was one of mom's

regular hallucinations. Kinda made me jealous.

>

> Hi all,

> Thank you for all your responses. It seems that Jim is fine. Today,

he was drinking his thickened liquids as usual. The water that I

gave him to rinse his mouth after brushing caused him to aspirate

when he swallowed it instead of spitting it out. Things seem back to

normal for him today. He ate and drank very well today.

> I do want to comment on one other observation that I had. After Jim

had been aspirating, he was reaching down to the

> side of his wheelchair and I asked what he was trying to do and he

said his mom was there and calling him.

> When Jim was with Hospice last year, he saw his deceased brother at

the foot of his bed drive a golf ball and it made him smile to see

the ball fly. He saw his brother come into visit almost always on a

daily basis while with Hospice. It was so vivid to him, he believed

his brother was there. Are there LOs here that see their deceased

family when they are not near death, but on a rather normal day for

them or is this a near death experience only that they seem to have.

I have read where other LOs near death see someone from their family.

I think Carol mentioned it about Millie.

> Just curious........................Jan

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If Darrell " saw or talked " with anyone previously, he

never mentioned it. The last two weeks or so when he

was in the hospital, they brought his lunch or dinner,

and he appeared to be asleep. I woke him up to feed

him, and he said: " Why did you wake me up? I was

talking with Doris, " who was his deceased sister and

who was quite close to him. He often talked about his

mother and some of the other siblings but never

mentioned seeing or talking with them. I think

sometimes their hallucinations are so real to them but

they aren't harmful, such as his weren't--children,

animals, etc., that they don't mention them. I'm sure

he probably hallucinated long before I knew it, but

they were normal things. He never had scary ones that

he talked about.

June

--- Janet Colello wrote:

> Hi all,

> Thank you for all your responses. It seems that Jim

> is fine. Today, he was drinking his thickened

> liquids as usual. The water that I gave him to

> rinse his mouth after brushing caused him to

> aspirate when he swallowed it instead of spitting it

> out. Things seem back to normal for him today. He

> ate and drank very well today.

> I do want to comment on one other observation that I

> had. After Jim had been aspirating, he was reaching

> down to the

> side of his wheelchair and I asked what he was

> trying to do and he said his mom was there and

> calling him.

> When Jim was with Hospice last year, he saw his

> deceased brother at the foot of his bed drive a golf

> ball and it made him smile to see the ball fly. He

> saw his brother come into visit almost always on a

> daily basis while with Hospice. It was so vivid to

> him, he believed his brother was there. Are there

> LOs here that see their deceased family when they

> are not near death, but on a rather normal day for

> them or is this a near death experience only that

> they seem to have. I have read where other LOs near

> death see someone from their family. I think Carol

> mentioned it about Millie.

> Just curious........................Jan

>

>

>

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So glad to hear such a positive change in Jim.

About 3-4 years before Mom died she told me of " dreams " she would have about her

deceased mother. She claimed they were very real and unsettling, could describe

them to

me. I'm not sure whether to put this into the hallucination category or seeing

dead loved

ones. At the end of life, the last 6 weeks, she could not communicate enough to

share,

but I do wonder what she was looking at over my shoulder with her blank eyes

when she

could get them open.

>

> Hi all,

> Thank you for all your responses. It seems that Jim is fine. Today, he was

drinking his

thickened liquids as usual. The water that I gave him to rinse his mouth

after brushing

caused him to aspirate when he swallowed it instead of spitting it out. Things

seem back

to normal for him today. He ate and drank very well today.

> I do want to comment on one other observation that I had. After Jim had been

aspirating, he was reaching down to the

> side of his wheelchair and I asked what he was trying to do and he said his

mom was

there and calling him.

> When Jim was with Hospice last year, he saw his deceased brother at the foot

of his bed

drive a golf ball and it made him smile to see the ball fly. He saw his brother

come into

visit almost always on a daily basis while with Hospice. It was so vivid to him,

he believed

his brother was there. Are there LOs here that see their deceased family when

they are not

near death, but on a rather normal day for them or is this a near death

experience only

that they seem to have. I have read where other LOs near death see someone from

their

family. I think Carol mentioned it about Millie.

> Just curious........................Jan

>

>

>

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Hi Jan, My mother visited with her brothers and sisters, and mostly her

mother months before she died. I think she had gone back in her mind to her

childhood days. To days that were fun and full of love. The days of being stress

free. The rest of her life was forgotten, yet, she always knew me when I

visited. She always came around to talk to me. That did me Goood!

Isn't it because older or earlier memories are the last to go? Golf and

Jim's brother were important to him, and things he enjoyed, so he naturally

held

those memories longer.

What do I know? But, my guess is as good and anyones. (grin)

Love you,

Imogene

In a message dated 3/17/2008 12:05:52 AM Central Standard Time,

janetcolello@... writes:

Hi all,

Thank you for all your responses. It seems that Jim is fine. Today, he was

drinking his thickened liquids as usual. The water that I gave him to

rinse his mouth after brushing caused him to aspirate when he swallowed it

instead of spitting it out. Things seem back to normal for him today. He ate

and

drank very well today.

I do want to comment on one other observation that I had. After Jim had been

aspirating, he was reaching down to the

side of his wheelchair and I asked what he was trying to do and he said his

mom was there and calling him.

When Jim was with Hospice last year, he saw his deceased brother at the foot

of his bed drive a golf ball and it made him smile to see the ball fly. He

saw his brother come into visit almost always on a daily basis while with

Hospice. It was so vivid to him, he believed his brother was there. Are there

LOs

here that see their deceased family when they are not near death, but on a

rather normal day for them or is this a near death experience only that they

seem to have. I have read where other LOs near death see someone from their

family. I think Carol mentioned it about Millie.

Just curious........................Jan

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Dear Janet,

What wonderful news about Jim! My mom has " seen " and dreamed about deceased

family members for many years. She is certainly sick with this disease, but

nowhere near death. From what we see here where I work - and what we're taught

by the clinicians - the near death experiences seem to be associated with

somehow being beckoned into eternity by a departed dear one. My mom will say her

sister is calling her, or mom sees her own mom working in the kitchen, etc. This

seems to be in part related to remembering where she is now and that her dear

ones are dead. Mom's MD and I chalk those " visitations " up to the LBD.

You and Jim remain in my thoughts and prayers.

Lin

stimtimminss wrote:

So glad to hear such a positive change in Jim.

About 3-4 years before Mom died she told me of " dreams " she would have about her

deceased mother. She claimed they were very real and unsettling, could describe

them to

me. I'm not sure whether to put this into the hallucination category or seeing

dead loved

ones. At the end of life, the last 6 weeks, she could not communicate enough to

share,

but I do wonder what she was looking at over my shoulder with her blank eyes

when she

could get them open.

>

> Hi all,

> Thank you for all your responses. It seems that Jim is fine. Today, he was

drinking his

thickened liquids as usual. The water that I gave him to rinse his mouth after

brushing

caused him to aspirate when he swallowed it instead of spitting it out. Things

seem back

to normal for him today. He ate and drank very well today.

> I do want to comment on one other observation that I had. After Jim had been

aspirating, he was reaching down to the

> side of his wheelchair and I asked what he was trying to do and he said his

mom was

there and calling him.

> When Jim was with Hospice last year, he saw his deceased brother at the foot

of his bed

drive a golf ball and it made him smile to see the ball fly. He saw his brother

come into

visit almost always on a daily basis while with Hospice. It was so vivid to him,

he believed

his brother was there. Are there LOs here that see their deceased family when

they are not

near death, but on a rather normal day for them or is this a near death

experience only

that they seem to have. I have read where other LOs near death see someone from

their

family. I think Carol mentioned it about Millie.

> Just curious........................Jan

>

>

>

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