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Hi ,

The destruction in Hashimoto's is limited to the thyroid gland. Once the gland

is demised completely the antibodies disappear from the blood stream, sometimes

this can be a slow gradual process. However, in Graves' disease the abs go on

and damage other tissue.

Sometimes Hashis can get other disease along with Hashis. Many Hashis have

Celiac disease, sjogren's syndrome, B-12 anemia and so on. So when one

autoimmune disease is present there is a higher risk of contacting another AI

disease. Our AI systems are already haywire.

Hope this helps,

~Bj

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> Hello I'm a 63 year old grandmother of 4. Less than a year ago I was diag.

with Hashimoto " s Thyroiditis. I was surprised. I still feel like I don't know

much about it. I have my good days and bad days. I also was curious what

happens when your immune system finally destroy your thyroid. Does your immune

system start to attact other things.

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the autoimmune process still continues in Hashis tho! and most hashis patients

still have Some gland left. that the DRs can still Locate and feel... (a few may

only have a few cells left,, just like Thryodi gladn Surgery patients still have

some Thryodi cells left behind)

anyway; RE Hashimoto's

once a person gets Hashimoto's , those autoimmune Genes will always be Switched

On " and you will always have an autoimmune disease called Hashimoto's.

here in 2011, we and " they " :/ are just beginning to learn the past decades of

mediacl research (in ALL Areas) and just recently figuring out how to help real

life patients get a good handle and better 'rebalance' on teh AUtoimmune/Immune

/brain/body processes tho!

IOW there is GOOD NEWS :)

the autoimmune process , which is a total body /brain process, can be managed to

the point that folks start feeling better and regain Quality of Life

and many even restored to full health and a full life.

but it is complex and multifactorial and that is the challenge for each unique

patient,, which of your cellular/molecular systems are going wrong and in what

way...

FWIW:

Hashis patients can also have issues with their eyes, to a lesser extent than

Graves do; something about the tissues of eyes being 'related' histologically to

the thryoid tissue.

i would not agree that we have Graves Antibodies,, for the obvious and simple

fact that 99.9% of hashis patients in history have never had ANY Graves

ANtibody testing!!

so statistically speaking any doctor who claims that is not being very

scientific or smart or logical or truthful..

Lots of " Paraphrasing " goes on in the Thryoid medical science and Practice of

medicine

so :) measure twice and cut once :)

to save time energy money and peace of mind :)

-Carol

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> > Hello I'm a 63 year old grandmother of 4. Less than a year ago I was diag.

with Hashimoto " s Thyroiditis. I was surprised. I still feel like I don't know

much about it. I have my good days and bad days. I also was curious what

happens when your immune system finally destroy your thyroid. Does your immune

system start to attact other things.

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I have been a member of this group for about a month. I have Hashimotos as

diagnosed in July by a endocrinologist. She has me on Levoxyl but not adrenal

support. I had been taking a thyroid supplement and an adrenal supplement sold

to me by a nurse since my doctor didn't feel, as a result or normal looking

blood testing results, that I had any problem. I also have a milk allergy AND

celac sprue. In my last post I was encouraged to buy the book Why Do I Still

Have Thyroid Symptoms which I am about half-way through. In re-reading the

replies to my initial post I was told to go to the following web site to find

out help for the adrenals. www.drian.com/articles/adrenalexhaustion.asp BUT

that site doesn't exist. I am doing much better with my health BUT whenever

someone says something to me that might be slightly mean I think my adrenals

shut down for a day until someone tells me that the other person is wrong OR it

takes me about 2-3 days to see through the situation. I have very sensitive

feelings and wish I could get past that. Any suggestions? I already gave up

caffein, sodas, coffee, all sugars, all white types of flour (even white gluten

free flour) and sugar substitutes. ANy suggestion what I do next to support the

adrenal glands and help out my emotions?

Carole

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You are right - the website you quote does not exist. But this one does:

http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenalexhaustion.asp

Rod

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> I have been a member of this group for about a month. I have Hashimotos as

diagnosed in July by a endocrinologist. She has me on Levoxyl but not adrenal

support. I had been taking a thyroid supplement and an adrenal supplement sold

to me by a nurse since my doctor didn't feel, as a result or normal looking

blood testing results, that I had any problem. I also have a milk allergy AND

celac sprue. In my last post I was encouraged to buy the book Why Do I Still

Have Thyroid Symptoms which I am about half-way through. In re-reading the

replies to my initial post I was told to go to the following web site to find

out help for the adrenals. www.drian.com/articles/adrenalexhaustion.asp BUT

that site doesn't exist. I am doing much better with my health BUT whenever

someone says something to me that might be slightly mean I think my adrenals

shut down for a day until someone tells me that the other person is wrong OR it

takes me about 2-3 days to see through the situation. I have very sensitive

feelings and wish I could get past that. Any suggestions? I already gave up

caffein, sodas, coffee, all sugars, all white types of flour (even white gluten

free flour) and sugar substitutes. ANy suggestion what I do next to support the

adrenal glands and help out my emotions?

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> Carole

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Hi Carole - LDN (low dose Naltrexone) has been shown to have some success with

treating autoimmune disease and even cancer. This person was just making a

general suggestion. You can learn more here:

http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/

I asked an integrative doc about it a couple years ago and he said so far any

success with it for Hashimotos was only anecdotal (no clinical studies). But I'm

not sure how up on it he really was and that could have changed.

If anyone here has experience with LDN, our group would love to hear about it.

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hi again susan and bj and all,

i've been reading and learning from your posts and i thank you for taking the

time to help us new people. also thank you for sending so many helpful links

to info.

to bring you up to date: i have now increased my dose of synthroid from 6.25,

to 12.5 with no symptoms this time, except for feeling more energetic and

spirited. that's a big change for me.

in less than two weeks i will be adding cytomel 5 mcgs. although dr haskil

said to add it twice a day, my doc wants me to start taking it once a day in

the evening. so it will be 12.5 mcgs of synthroid, 30 mins before breakfast

and then 5 mcg of cytomel in the evening.

i read somewhere that i should wait until i get regulated with the synthetic

thyroid hormones before i add the nutrients like the selenium, zinc, iodide and

the q one. so i stopped them for now.

i know that avoiding allergic food is very important for hashis, from what i've

read. i started off pefectly avoinding gluten and even most dairy products.

that didn't last long.

the greatest problem for me is that i have a food addiction. even tho i know

i'm harming my thyroid, i often binge eat, including foods containing gluten

and dairy.

i even wonder if this could have caused my hashis to begin with. if any of

you have any knowledge of this, i would sure appreciate reading about it.

again i thank you for your continued help along this new road for me and love

hearing any advice you may have for me. lois

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Hi Lois,

Glad to hear the increased dosage is helping you. That is one hurdle already

crossed. Malnutrition, vitamin and mineral deficiencies will NOT improve with T4

meds.

From what I understand bingeing comes from emotional and physical motivation.

This stems from emotional behaviors such as guilt, fear, worry, anger, sadness,

or boredom. Being overly hungry or deprived of calories can lead to bingeing

such as not eating for long periods of time. Also, wanting something you are

disallowed to have or should not have aka -The forbidden fruit can led to

binging as well.

This can be due to you wanting something that you KNOW you shouldn't eat. You

probably feel like it is unfair and you want to eat the food YOU want to eat.

Studies on restrained eaters have shed a lot of psychological light in the world

of dieting. They show how ineffective outlawing particular foods can be, and how

it sets you up for overeating.

You need to find substitutions for the foods you should NOT eat. Then the food

will no longer be " forbidden " , and thus, it will lose its appeal.

The best advise I received was Get GLUTEN OUT OF THE HOUSE (and other

problematic foods). If these foods are NOT in your house, then you cannot eat

them, even if you are tempted.

Good luck,

~Bj

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