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Hi April-

This seems to be a case of when it rains it pours. I

appreciate that you are asking for prayers. I shall

definitely keep you and your family in my prayers.

In answer to your question regarding the neurologist

and appointment schedules...my dad was seen no

earlier than 3 months apart. There were times in

the journey that he was seen every 6 months as well.

I would be surprised if a neurologist would agree to

every month appointments.

I would guess that the gurgling your MIL hears is

due to swallowing. This has to do with muscles in

the throat not working well from a Parkinson's

symptom. Unless it is in the lungs of course.

Thank you for posting and continuing to give

reports on your FIL.

Remeber too, that as long as there is life, there

is hope.

Hugs-

Sandie

Des Moines, IA

dad, Merle, passed from LBD 9-20-02, age 65

-- More About My FIL...Any MY Dad

My MIL sent me a copy of a detailed letter last night that she'd

written to the neurologist my FIL has an appointment with in the

morning. I thought I had a pretty good grip on all of my FIL's

problems, but they go deeper than what I realized. For example, she

said he has recently started to make a gurgling noise at night when

he goes to bed. That is especially worrisome to me. She said his

breathing has become labored. His favorite cousin came for a visit

two days ago and my MIL said my FIL couldn't sit still long enough

to visit with her. He wanted to be moved from one place to the next

constantly. She wants to ask the doctor if my FIL should be in some

sort of program where he can be around other people besides his

family. She also opened the letter stating that, due to his rapid

decline, she thinks my FIL needs to be seen more often than every 2-

3 months. I'm not sure why she's pushing that so hard. She stated

in her letter several times that the meds are not helping him.

Plus, it is such a huge chore to drive the 3 hours to Atlanta with

my FIL from their house that I can't imagine her wanting to do that

monthly. I'll ask again, but have any of you had the experience of a

neurologist seeing your LO month-to-month? I just don't think

that's going to happen, especially at a busy place like Emory.

I would like to ask for your prayers regarding my own dad. He is 81

years old, a widow, and lives about 15 miles from my brother. Well,

I spoke to my brother last night and he said he's certain my dad

suffered a stroke. He can't use his left hand, the left side of his

face is droopy, and he's dragging is left foot. His speech has also

become slurred. So, my brother is going to take my dad to the

doctor today for a full evaluation. It's very upsetting because my

brother said my dad has reached a point where he isn't able to live

on his own anymore and he's talking about placing him in an assisted

living facility. That has always been my dad's biggest fear, so

it's very hard to deal with, especially since I live 11 hours from

him.

I'm amazed that my husband and I are about the learn our father's

fates in just a day apart. We both understand the emotions the other

one is experiencing, so that makes it easier to cope. No matter how

young or old one's parent is, though, you're just never ready to say

goodbye.

I'll be in touch,

April

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It may be because our Doctor is new to us, or rather we are new to him, but

we have seen him every month this first three months. We will see him again

Thursday. Thank goodness he is only one mile from us.

Imogene

In a message dated 7/10/2006 8:58:38 AM Central Daylight Time,

sanclown@... writes:

Hi April-

This seems to be a case of when it rains it pours. I

appreciate that you are asking for prayers. I shall

definitely keep you and your family in my prayers.

In answer to your question regarding the neurologist

and appointment schedules...my dad was seen no

earlier than 3 months apart. There were times in

the journey that he was seen every 6 months as well.

I would be surprised if a neurologist would agree to

every month appointments.

I would guess that the gurgling your MIL hears is

due to swallowing. This has to do with muscles in

the throat not working well from a Parkinson's

symptom. Unless it is in the lungs of course.

Thank you for posting and continuing to give

reports on your FIL.

Remeber too, that as long as there is life, there

is hope.

Hugs-

Sandie

Des Moines, IA

dad, Merle, passed from LBD 9-20-02, age 65

-------Original Message-------

From: aswest1021

Date: 07/10/06 07:49:01

To: LBDcaregivers

Subject: More About My FIL...Any MY Dad

My MIL sent me a copy of a detailed letter last night that she'd

written to the neurologist my FIL has an appointment with in the

morning. I thought I had a pretty good grip on all of my FIL's

problems, but they go deeper than what I realized. For example, she

said he has recently started to make a gurgling noise at night when

he goes to bed. That is especially worrisome to me. She said his

breathing has become labored. His favorite cousin came for a visit

two days ago and my MIL said my FIL couldn't sit still long enough

to visit with her. He wanted to be moved from one place to the next

constantly. She wants to ask the doctor if my FIL should be in some

sort of program where he can be around other people besides his

family. She also opened the letter stating that, due to his rapid

decline, she thinks my FIL needs to be seen more often than every 2-

3 months. I'm not sure why she's pushing that so hard. She stated

in her letter several times that the meds are not helping him.

Plus, it is such a huge chore to drive the 3 hours to Atlanta with

my FIL from their house that I can't imagine her wanting to do that

monthly. I'll ask again, but have any of you had the experience of a

neurologist seeing your LO month-to-month? I just don't think

that's going to happen, especially at a busy place like Emory.

I would like to ask for your prayers regarding my own dad. He is 81

years old, a widow, and lives about 15 miles from my brother. Well,

I spoke to my brother last night and he said he's certain my dad

suffered a stroke. He can't use his left hand, the left side of his

face is droopy, and he's dragging is left foot. His speech has also

become slurred. So, my brother is going to take my dad to the

doctor today for a full evaluation. It's very upsetting because my

brother said my dad has reached a point where he isn't able to live

on his own anymore and he's talking about placing him in an assisted

living facility. That has always been my dad's biggest fear, so

it's very hard to deal with, especially since I live 11 hours from

him.

I'm amazed that my husband and I are about the learn our father's

fates in just a day apart. We both understand the emotions the other

one is experiencing, so that makes it easier to cope. No matter how

young or old one's parent is, though, you're just never ready to say

goodbye.

I'll be in touch,

April

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sandra_dil wrote:

>...Get your Dad checked for a UTI, but also take seriously that some form of

dementia might be involved and deal with that too. You have learned a lot due

to your FIL, so use it to help your Dad. Take care.

>

Good advice, ! Infections such as UTI can indeed alter body and

brain chemistry and bring on behaviors which are often misdiagnosed.

April thinks the anesthesia would not be an issue since it was local

rather than general. Certainly the side effects would be less than

those that come with general anesthesia, I agree. However, when a loved

one begins to act out of character with what presents as confusion,

delusions or psychosis, it is always a good idea to review the

medications they are taking or to which they have been exposed.

Mom's first episodes of confusion, delusions and psychotic behavior came

following a fall for which she was taken to the emergency room. She

suffered from vertigo and believed that was the reason for her fall

(keep in mind she was completely lucid and mentally alert up to this

time). They gave her Ativan for the nausea she had with the vertigo and

it sent her into full blown psychosis - hearing and seeing things,

paranoia, and disorientation. She was admitted and received some other

medications to which she reacted just as badly. Once they quit giving

her the medications to which she was sensitive, she reovered (for the

most part) in a matter of three days.

It is very common in nursing homes to see patients who are suffering

from overmedication, leading patients to exhibit what appears to be

symptoms of dementia.

Considering the relatively short period of time since April's father

appeared to be fully lucid and cognizant before surgery and the issues

he now has, I'd want him to be professionally evaluated to determine a

diagnosis for his curent behavior - and that includes having blood work,

urine specimen, and evaluation of medications both current and from the

time he was hospitalized as well as a brain scan for possible stroke.

Emboli following cardiac procedures are not uncommon.

This is the very kind of situation which requires advocacy to ensure

appropriate diagnosis and care of our LOs. My uncle (age 80) recently

had a knee replacement surgery and subsequent to it went through exactly

what April's father is going through. It turns out that at the nursing

home to which he was sent for rehab, he was chewing his pain medications

because in the haze residual from the morphine in the hospital he

thought that was what they wanted. After a week or 10 days of his

confusion and his kids thinking he had become demented and driving

themselves nuts trying to figure out how to bring him out of it, one of

the nurses finally noticed what he was doing and he was told to swallow

the medicine whole. Upon doing so, after one day, the fog lifted and he

was again himself.

Amazing how little it takes to alter someone's mental state, eh?

jacqui (from Puget Sound)

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, I have been reading your post and the UTI is something I will consider.

My mother who has LBD/ Parkinson's dx 8/2003, has on 5/5/06 fallen and broke her

right hip and then on 7/9/06 fell and broke her left hip. She has done therapy

fairly well, and she thinks she can walk on her own, but forgets she can not.

Now she is in a wheelchair and keeps trying to get up thinking she can walk (

that's how she broke the left hip).

Just yesterday night and tonight the nursing home has called to say my mother

has crawled out of bed from the bottom end (the sides have railings) and they

find her sitting on the floor near the door about 5 feet from the bed.

Any suggestions on what to do? I have thought about lowering the bed to prevent

a hard fall. Putting rugs around the bed to pad the area. Also this is a

sudden change in her behavior, maybe I should check with the neurologist about

her meds. She is on Stelevo, Aricept, Namenda, Paxil, and Seroquel at night.

I do not want to drug her up, but if I can I want to prevent falling as much as

possible. It is a fine line on what to do. Thank you to anyone with any

suggestions. I will consider checking for the UTI infection also. Thanks!

Carol B. Elk Grove Vlg IL

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Hi Carol-

I purchased online both a bed and chair alarm for my Dad. They both functioned

well, but there were 2 particular drawbacks. #1 My Mom would forget to turn the

alarm on the bed alarm. (I really don't think she was too thrilled with it.

She thought it was not necessary. #2 My Dad who liked many men loved to fool

with gadgets, was able to dismantle the alarm, so the alarms went by the

wayside. I really thought they were worthwhile, but I could not get the

cooperation from my Mother. To this day, I cannot get the importance of safety

through to my elderly Mother. .

Also, the idea of lowering the height of the bed is excellent. In many

hospitals it is now probtocol to keep the bed in the lowest position to prevent

falls.

I hope this helps.

Gerry

Wilmington, De.

Daughter and caregiver of Dick Deverell, who died on 9/11/05 after a more than 4

yr. battle with LBD.

Re: April

, I have been reading your post and the UTI is something I will

consider. My mother who has LBD/ Parkinson's dx 8/2003, has on 5/5/06 fallen and

broke her right hip and then on 7/9/06 fell and broke her left hip. She has done

therapy fairly well, and she thinks she can walk on her own, but forgets she can

not. Now she is in a wheelchair and keeps trying to get up thinking she can walk

( that's how she broke the left hip).

Just yesterday night and tonight the nursing home has called to say my mother

has crawled out of bed from the bottom end (the sides have railings) and they

find her sitting on the floor near the door about 5 feet from the bed.

Any suggestions on what to do? I have thought about lowering the bed to

prevent a hard fall. Putting rugs around the bed to pad the area. Also this is a

sudden change in her behavior, maybe I should check with the neurologist about

her meds. She is on Stelevo, Aricept, Namenda, Paxil, and Seroquel at night. I

do not want to drug her up, but if I can I want to prevent falling as much as

possible. It is a fine line on what to do. Thank you to anyone with any

suggestions. I will consider checking for the UTI infection also. Thanks!

Carol B. Elk Grove Vlg IL

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