Re: MUTTerings!

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I had to laugh! Thoth is the Egypt equiv of Hermes/Mercury. All the

personification of the process of communicating.: so words/semantics = Trickster

of

dualities.

Naming is the origin of all particular things.

Merc rules Gemini. Glyph=II. Ex: quot marks. is a good woman means one

thing but is a " good " woman reverses meaning.

Just a tease - early n cold this morn.

love

ao

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In a message dated 2/25/2004 5:52:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

IonaDove@... writes:

I had to laugh! Thoth is the Egypt equiv of Hermes/Mercury. All the

personification of the process of communicating.: so words/semantics =

Trickster of

dualities.

Good to hear you laugh Alice, and I thought it would have been because my

post was peppered with all of those " really " s, as in " Valley Girl " vernacular.

Oh well, just another night of too much Wine, and not enough Wimmen and Song,

as our old pal Shadowcatcher would have probably lamented, not that I'm

complaining about that though.

Thoth -Theta Omicron Theta - 9 + 70 +9 = 88 = Sidereal orbital period of

Mercury, 88 days.

Yes, most religions have their roots in Astronomy/Astrology, so why is it do

you suppose that all these Fundamentalist preachers want to keep treating

their respective flocks like a bunch of " mushrooms " , fed a big pile of crap and

kept in the dark, LOL! The answer is all too painfully obvious to me, because

that's how its alway been. I personally won't be going to see Mel's spectacle

of the day, because it is as Toni described it, just another sado-machochistic

reinforcement of that same old crap, and I guess the Pope must think humanity

is about a " Quart " low on that right now. Not that the principal behind that

spectacle is all that unsound mind you. Anyone who know that to love someone

usually entails a certain degree of sacrifice of one's coveted ass or assets

as the case may be, as any parent will agree towards helping their children, as

the most common example I can think of anyhow.

Semantics/Languages/The Art of Writing/communication in general are stepping

stones designed to ease the journey through Life, but one has to keep a wary

eye on those stones, specially the slippery ones that only appear sound and

solid. Word have a tendency to shift meanings or rather people tend to overturn

traditional meanings of words to suit their own purposes, which is all too

prevailent in today's fast moving, fast talking, society. Our society keeps

moving faster everyday because it is being conveyed by that slippery substance

called oil, and yeah, that fast moving, Mercury is another slippery fellow isn't

he? LOL!

The Mutt

[Guest guest]

Well spoke, Mutt.

No, I won't be going to see the flick. The Religious Right has long been hoping

to break into the cinema in some major LOTR -- POtter -- Star Wars way. Why? The

power, the potential to obsess and indoctrinate. The merchandising! Left Behind

just didn't do it. ( even sued the film company of it.) But now they have

Mel.

Many folks will see the Passion. It will open doors and make them hungry for

more because of the emotions it arouses. It mainlines the unconscious. From what

I've heard about the film, the Rabbi's are right to criticize its potential for

anti-Semitism. It is anti-Semitic by nature. As brought up,

divorcing the Christian Zionists from their need to manipulate Israel can only

be a good thing -- but, O! the potential for this to blow up in everyone's face.

They WANT a Rapture; that wanting is creating an apocalypse. And they aim to be

the last people standing.

They've created something sinister. I've felt it, living in those Red States

where the glare it casts hits my heathen eyes at an angle to see it. And it's

made me as crazy as Cassandra; it's slipped my hours and days from me, trying to

understand it, to help people see it and -- above all -- to help people turn

away from its power, its rape of Self. But I have no power, no wisdom. Jung has

been the only one, it seems, to understand and see it coming.

It's a sort of reprisal in his case. He'd lived through its dress rehearsal.

Eusebius was Constantine's Goebbels. And now the art of propaganda in our time

has hit sublime heights. It rules everything, and it's inescapable. We've made

it our economic system. Our living.

Mass culture. Mass mind. Like the ants and the lemmings, it's always been here,

the 30,000 (really?) making the pilgrimage to the Temple. The outer mysteries

activate it.

The religious impulse is an unavoidable part of being human. The Divine Guest,

the Daemon, the Genius: the highest heart of the Psyche itself. But now we have

this time of a mass-mind twisting of the impulse into literal instinct on a

massive level. The Fundamentalist Cult in the US is some quarter of the

population strong .... Hitler came to power with just 14 % of the vote and his

Brownshirt Free Republic firmly in place. That's all it takes. The only way to

survive this -- and it's a sickness just now, damaging the whole earth -- is a

massive getting beyond the literal.

It's trying to happen. A psychosis is a symptom, the psyche's attempt to heal

itself.

Individuation Harry, is what will defeat Lord Voldermort.

You and Toni put your finger on the suffering as an important feature of the

religious instinct. The catharsis, the dying to the old self to be reborn to the

new. I hear the faithful coning out of the movie saying we all killed Christ

with our sins... that that is what they're projecting onto the spectacle. That

jacks it all up to momentous potential, an energy gradient that can release an

enormous power. Who is in control of it? If not individuals, whole and

unfettered -- how dangerous. It can be moved, has been move, manipulated to do

great damage.

A Dark Age... a great sleep...

I live on 7 acres in the mountains. This winter, I've had roses blooming in the

snow . I keep thinking of what spoke to me in my Catholic upbringing. I was,

after all, Confirmed by Cardinal O'Boyle. What did I take from it? Why am I

not like Mel? From earliest times it was a liberal Catholicism that taught me

that Christ is to be found in everyone by looking in their eyes, that their

suffering is what is portrayed on the cross, that standing on the snake is

love overcoming all. It was simple, because it was given to me as something

symbolic from the start. Kids DO get it.

I take it with me. I find it in all religions.

The Jesus Mysteries says it is dedicated to " the Christ in you. " I think that

says it perfectly.

When I see the Virgin with the child on her lap, I say : AhHa. Her eyes.

means sorrow. It's the symbol of each of us: our predicament in being human and

having the knowledge that we will die, that we are born to lose all that we have

loved so dearly. That knowledge: like Dionysus, Osiris, we are split into piece

with it. It is unbearable. We go about our whole lives trying to deal with it.

We ignore it, we deny it, we distract ourselves with shiny things, bigger toys,

better lays, bigger cars, more important titles. But it's always there. Only

love makes any sense of it. Only love transcends and transforms. So the cross,

if it can be mounted so that you are firmly centered in it, you can become the

Stillpoint, the exactly heart of that quaternity: The Self, the time-defying

love. *You become your loving.* If we die into that, we merely and always go

back into and become what we came out of.

We take with us what we are.

Difficult times. Hang on, center the best you can. We have to love each and

every shard of heaven as it falls to earth. The task of the age.

Again: Jung wrote a letter on 9/14/1960, nine months before his death. There's

little doubt he was speaking to us all.

Excerpt:

[...] my main tenet contains nothing more than: Follow that will and that way

which experience confirms to be your own, i.e., the true expression of your

individuality. [...] None believes in the blossoming and unfolding of the

individual as the experimental, doubtful, and bewildering work of the living

God, to whom we have to lend our eyes and ears and our discriminating mind, to

which end they have been incubated upon for millions of years and brought to

light since about 6,000 years ago, viz. at the moment when the historical

continuity of consciousness became visible through the invention of script.

We are sorely in need of a Truth or a self-understanding similar to that of

Ancient Egypt, which I have found still living with the Taos Pueblos. Their

chief of ceremonies old Ochwiay Biano (Mountain Lake) said to me : 'We are the

people who live on the roof of the world, we are the sons of the Sun, who is our

father. We help him daily to rise and to cross the sky. We do not do this for

ourselves, but for the Americas also. Therefore they should not interfere with

our religion. But if they continue to do so (by missionaries) and hinder us,

then they will see in ten years the sun will rise no more.' He correctly assumes

that their day, their light, their consciousness and their meaning will die,

when destroyed through the narrow-mindedness of American Rationalism, and the

same will happen to the whole world, when subjected to such treatment. That is

the reason I tried to find the best truth and the clearest light I could attain

to, and since I have reached my highest point and can't transcend any more, I am

guarding my light and my treasure, convinced that nobody would gain and I myself

would be badly, even hopelessly injured, if I should lose it. It is the most

precious not only to me, but above all to the darkness of the creator, who needs

man to illuminate his creation. If God had foreseen his world, it would be a

mere senseless machine and Man's existence a useless freak. My intellect can

envisage the latter possibility, but the whole of my being says 'No' to it...

deborah

[Guest guest]

Dear Deborah,

" Pulcritudo? " Well, self confidence is a good thing, I guess :-).

You wrote:

> Jung has been the only one, it seems, to understand and see it coming.

>

And also the only one, it seems, to understand that it cannot be forestalled.

Regards,

Dan

[Guest guest]

Best regards, indeed.

I'll answer this quickly and now because it was personal and not

well intended. (Let's be honest, shall we?) The rest I'll steep

(dear ).

I was blessed with beauty. So what? But alice said when I moved to

my new home, I should name it. I did. Pulchritudo is my home:

http://www.jungcircle.com/muse/pulchritudo/page1.htm

http://jungcircle.com/muse/apollo.html

http://www.jungcircle.com/muse/sept19Album/album.htm

" The Beautiful is difficult "

Leave me alone, Dan.