Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 I know a few of you have mentioned to me that Isabella might have sensory issues, you were right. I honestly do not think I was understand the complexity of sensory issues and how they can effect a person differently, with so many different sense involved. On Friday OT came to evaluate her. The findings were very strange, but that does not shock me any more. She scored Isabella and as a whole the scoring showed Isabella did not have sensory issues, but when she broke down each category she had sensory issues in all categories and some were pretty extreme. Needless to say they added OT to her list of therapy. There was so much they covered on Friday I could not grasp it all so I started looking on the web to find out all I could. I found a really good web site and thought I would pass it on to all of you. http://www.sensory-processing-disorder.com/index.html They also started her on brushing therapy and showed me how to do it. Isabella loves it and goes to sleep shortly after each session. This seems to have a very calming effect on her. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Hi Fiona, I would have Hunter get an OT eval. If he has SI, it will help him get a head start. From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On Behalf Of Fiona & Lee Price Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:07 AM To: MosaicDS Group Subject: Sensory issues A support list for parents whose babies/children/adult children have been diagnosed with Mosaic Down Syndrome!Hi everyone I've been reading all the blogs lately and have noticed a couple of people mention sensory issues. As Hunter is only 8 months old I haven't really had any troubles or come across any issues yet, however, now I realise he probabloy has a sensory issue because whenever I try and wash his hair or wet his face he screams. At first I thought this was just because the water was getting in his eyes so I tried using my hands to cover his face but this didn't work. Then I thought it was because I wasn't giving him a bath or shower every day so I started showering with him everyday, but this hasn't made it any easier either. Can I ask those who also have a problem with this, is there anything I can do to help or will he just hate having his hair washed forever. I wanted to start taking him to swimming classes but now I'm a bit worried as I know they dunk the babies under the water (which he will hate). I also wanted to ask what other sensory issues can develop. Sorry if I'm a bit vague bit this is still all very new to us. I also wanted to let Kristy know how much I'm enjoying your blogs on DS and MDS. You write things that are very easy to understand and are a joy to read. Thank you for educating me all over again! Fiona Hunter mds 8mths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Other issues that can develop that can occur and develop late on are language loss, sensory to food, touch, not playing with toys, loud noises, haircuts, brushing teeth and so on. All of this can delay developmental learning and speech. From: MosaicDS [mailto:MosaicDS ] On Behalf Of Fiona & Lee Price Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 2:07 AM To: MosaicDS Group Subject: Sensory issues A support list for parents whose babies/children/adult children have been diagnosed with Mosaic Down Syndrome!Hi everyone I've been reading all the blogs lately and have noticed a couple of people mention sensory issues. As Hunter is only 8 months old I haven't really had any troubles or come across any issues yet, however, now I realise he probabloy has a sensory issue because whenever I try and wash his hair or wet his face he screams. At first I thought this was just because the water was getting in his eyes so I tried using my hands to cover his face but this didn't work. Then I thought it was because I wasn't giving him a bath or shower every day so I started showering with him everyday, but this hasn't made it any easier either. Can I ask those who also have a problem with this, is there anything I can do to help or will he just hate having his hair washed forever. I wanted to start taking him to swimming classes but now I'm a bit worried as I know they dunk the babies under the water (which he will hate). I also wanted to ask what other sensory issues can develop. Sorry if I'm a bit vague bit this is still all very new to us. I also wanted to let Kristy know how much I'm enjoying your blogs on DS and MDS. You write things that are very easy to understand and are a joy to read. Thank you for educating me all over again! Fiona Hunter mds 8mths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 I wet a soapy washcloth ahead of time and keep his hair buzzed short. When he first steps in the tub, I do it very fast. I went thru the same thoughts you did and wondered if it was because I bathed him every other day. Then I wondered about the water temperature, the soap, water in eyes and ears. This is the weird thing...although he is cautious in a pool of water, and he does get some perturbed about the water if you put it upon his head, he seems to be able to brush it off faster in public water than at home in the bathtub. Hair brushes are a no-no for us as well. Toothbrushes are getting better, as we let him do his own (usually). I do not know for sure, and I am not sure anyone will ever know for sure, but it seems to be te " touch " rather than the water. (If that makes any sense whatsoever?) Simply splashing water on his head does not perturb him as much as " touching his head " to shampoo it. I even thought it was a " fear of water " , because I was extremely fearful of water as a child. (But I had good reason...drowning or near drowning and resuscitated at 2 or 3.) I cannot say I remember that he was sensitive to touch as a baby. It seemes to just occur one day. Now that I have been hearing from speech therapists and basic reading and information gathering all around from all sources, I am beginning to see that it is something else and not a fear of water in itself. <br> BTW, he has no problems with eating, never has. Breastfed well, feeds self well, and etc... He did get a reflux issue after a needless NG tube (an insurance money maker). So we think this was the cause. And between 15 months and two, we discovered he had an aversion to gluten- containing products when he kept spitting up tremendous amounts of foul smelling bile stuff. Still he ate all the time. We eliminated the gluten and no more issue with that. We are not sure why he responds this way. He also detests loud train hons and the baby crying. Yet, he will kill our ears with a loud TV (perhaps he is drowning us out?) You are not alone. > > A support list for parents whose babies/children/adult children have been diagnosed with Mosaic Down Syndrome!Hi everyone > > I've been reading all the blogs lately and have noticed a couple of people mention sensory issues. As Hunter is only 8 months old I haven't really had any troubles or come across any issues yet, however, now I realise he probabloy has a sensory issue because whenever I try and wash his hair or wet his face he screams. At first I thought this was just because the water was getting in his eyes so I tried using my hands to cover his face but this didn't work. Then I thought it was because I wasn't giving him a bath or shower every day so I started showering with him everyday, but this hasn't made it any easier either. > > Can I ask those who also have a problem with this, is there anything I can do to help or will he just hate having his hair washed forever. I wanted to start taking him to swimming classes but now I'm a bit worried as I know they dunk the babies under the water (which he will hate). > > I also wanted to ask what other sensory issues can develop. > > Sorry if I'm a bit vague bit this is still all very new to us. > > I also wanted to let Kristy know how much I'm enjoying your blogs on DS and MDS. You write things that are very easy to understand and are a joy to read. Thank you for educating me all over again! > > Fiona > Hunter mds 8mths > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Fiona, I agree with the other have Hunter tested for sensory issues. I was speaking with my daughters OT the other day and she said most people have some for of sensory issues. The way I look at it the more therapy we give our children when they are young the better it is. I also like the fact that I have other people more experienced then myself seeing my daughter all of the time. This way they might pick up on something that I miss. Sue Fiona & Lee Price wrote: A support list for parents whose babies/children/adult children have been diagnosed with Mosaic Down Syndrome!Hi everyone I've been reading all the blogs lately and have noticed a couple of people mention sensory issues. As Hunter is only 8 months old I haven't really had any troubles or come across any issues yet, however, now I realise he probabloy has a sensory issue because whenever I try and wash his hair or wet his face he screams. At first I thought this was just because the water was getting in his eyes so I tried using my hands to cover his face but this didn't work. Then I thought it was because I wasn't giving him a bath or shower every day so I started showering with him everyday, but this hasn't made it any easier either. Can I ask those who also have a problem with this, is there anything I can do to help or will he just hate having his hair washed forever. I wanted to start taking him to swimming classes but now I'm a bit worried as I know they dunk the babies under the water (which he will hate). I also wanted to ask what other sensory issues can develop. Sorry if I'm a bit vague bit this is still all very new to us. I also wanted to let Kristy know how much I'm enjoying your blogs on DS and MDS. You write things that are very easy to understand and are a joy to read. Thank you for educating me all over again! Fiona Hunter mds 8mths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hi Fiona, Hailey has SID (sensory disorder) I have done alot of research on this subject and have come across a treatment called brushing. I spoke with Haileys therapist and she is gonna start doing this her next visit. Ill let you know how that goes. I wish they would have started it at a younger age. Thinking back when Hailey was little she didnt like to be held and doesnt like her face to be touched or her hands and feet. Some children are sensitive to light touch and some to a more firm touch. I wish I would have known about this disorder when she was a baby but I didnt. I thought all these behaviours were just because she wanted to be on the go. Hailey will move away from touch. This breaks my heart. I hope the brushing works. Her therapist said that most kids dont like it at first but then grow to love it. It becomes very soothing to them and calms them down. There are some great websites out there to help reconize the symptoms and educate. Another thing I have noticed with Hailey is she doesnt seem to feel pain the same way. Its like she has a delay in her reaction to pain. If she even reacts at all. She ran into the table and hit her head really hard and just sat down and stared at the floor. She never cried and yet she had a big goose egg on her head. She also is sensitive to hot and cold. Warm food feels really hot to her. A warm bath feels really hot to her. They just dont process these feelings the same way we do. Well those are a few things you can look out for I hope it helps. I do recommend research. If I would have had access to a computer back then I could have helped Hailey so much more. No one ever told me about this disorder when she was little and I didnt no all of these were symptoms of sensory integration disorder. I just thought it was behaviour issues.If you have any other question feel free to ask. Have a good day. Becky & #65007; & #65007; & #65007; & #65007; & #65007; & #65007; >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â A support list for parents whose babies/children/adult children have been diagnosed with Mosaic Down Syndrome!Hi everyone & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > I've been reading all the blogs lately and have noticed a couple of people mention sensory issues. As Hunter is only 8 months old I haven't really had any troubles or come across any issues yet, however, now I realise he probabloy has a sensory issue because whenever I try and wash his hair or wet his face he screams. At first I thought this was just because the water was getting in his eyes so I tried using my hands to cover his face but this didn't work. Then I thought it was because I wasn't giving him a bath or shower every day so I started showering with him everyday, but this hasn't made it any easier either. & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > Can I ask those who also have a problem with this, is there anything I can do to help or will he just hate having his hair washed forever. I wanted to start taking him to swimming classes but now I'm a bit worried as I know they dunk the babies under the water (which he will hate). & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > I also wanted to ask what other sensory issues can develop. & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > Sorry if I'm a bit vague bit this is still all very new to us. & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > I also wanted to let Kristy know how much I'm enjoying your blogs on DS and MDS. You write things that are very easy to understand and are a joy to read. Thank you for educating me all over again! & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > Fiona & #65007; & #65007; > Hunter mds 8mths & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 This is the message I was trying to send the other day. It still has not posted and Yahoo is still " investigating. " It was still in my sent items, so I decided to try and re-send it! A. Special Educator Simon Kenton HS 11132 Madison Pk. Independence, KY 41051 (859)960-0348 cynthia.jones@... ________________________________ From: , - Kenton County Sent: Tue 6/10/2008 9:41 AM To: MosaicDS Subject: RE: Sensory issues They brush Molly at school and it really seems to help her focus. The first time I heard a child being brushed, I thought it sounded HORRIBLE, because I could hear it from across the room! So, when the suggested it for Molly I was really hesitant. Then, they let me feel the brush and it's really extremely soft! In fact, I'D love to be brushed for a few minutes a day! LOL! They also use a Hug vest -- it's sort of a weighted vest for 30 minutes a day. The thing with the vest, though, is if you leave it on them for more than 30 minutes, they will fall asleep! I was a big skeptic at first, but these things really do work. A. Special Educator Simon Kenton HS 11132 Madison Pk. Independence, KY 41051 (859)960-0348 cynthia.jones@... ________________________________ From: MosaicDS on behalf of Becky Sent: Tue 6/10/2008 9:09 AM To: MosaicDS Subject: Re: Sensory issues Hi Fiona, Hailey has SID (sensory disorder) I have done alot of research on this subject and have come across a treatment called brushing. I spoke with Haileys therapist and she is gonna start doing this her next visit. Ill let you know how that goes. I wish they would have started it at a younger age. Thinking back when Hailey was little she didnt like to be held and doesnt like her face to be touched or her hands and feet. Some children are sensitive to light touch and some to a more firm touch. I wish I would have known about this disorder when she was a baby but I didnt. I thought all these behaviours were just because she wanted to be on the go. Hailey will move away from touch. This breaks my heart. I hope the brushing works. Her therapist said that most kids dont like it at first but then grow to love it. It becomes very soothing to them and calms them down. There are some great websites out there to help reconize the symptoms and educate. Another thing I have noticed with Hailey is she doesnt seem to feel pain the same way. Its like she has a delay in her reaction to pain. If she even reacts at all. She ran into the table and hit her head really hard and just sat down and stared at the floor. She never cried and yet she had a big goose egg on her head. She also is sensitive to hot and cold. Warm food feels really hot to her. A warm bath feels really hot to her. They just dont process these feelings the same way we do. Well those are a few things you can look out for I hope it helps. I do recommend research. If I would have had access to a computer back then I could have helped Hailey so much more. No one ever told me about this disorder when she was little and I didnt no all of these were symptoms of sensory integration disorder. I just thought it was behaviour issues.If you have any other question feel free to ask. Have a good day. Becky & #65007; & #65007; & #65007; & #65007; & #65007; & #65007; > A support list for parents whose babies/children/adult children have been diagnosed with Mosaic Down Syndrome!Hi everyone & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > I've been reading all the blogs lately and have noticed a couple of people mention sensory issues. As Hunter is only 8 months old I haven't really had any troubles or come across any issues yet, however, now I realise he probabloy has a sensory issue because whenever I try and wash his hair or wet his face he screams. At first I thought this was just because the water was getting in his eyes so I tried using my hands to cover his face but this didn't work. Then I thought it was because I wasn't giving him a bath or shower every day so I started showering with him everyday, but this hasn't made it any easier either. & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > Can I ask those who also have a problem with this, is there anything I can do to help or will he just hate having his hair washed forever. I wanted to start taking him to swimming classes but now I'm a bit worried as I know they dunk the babies under the water (which he will hate). & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > I also wanted to ask what other sensory issues can develop. & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > Sorry if I'm a bit vague bit this is still all very new to us. & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > I also wanted to let Kristy know how much I'm enjoying your blogs on DS and MDS. You write things that are very easy to understand and are a joy to read. Thank you for educating me all over again! & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > Fiona & #65007; & #65007; > Hunter mds 8mths & #65007; & #65007; > & #65007; & #65007; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I forgot to mention that along with Charlie Hart's head and face sensitivity, he also cannot stand his " back " to be washed. I got reminded very quickly when he had his bath last night. What I have started doing is using a " sponge " soaked in water and squeezing it so the water " drips " like rain. At first he jumps, but then it seems to be less traumatic than scrubbing or washing with a washcloth. We play a game with the water pitcher that " sprinkles " water from the spout and we sing " It's Raining, It's Pouring " - This seems to work well also. The " music " from the song stimulates a different part of the brain. While the brain is " busy " in that area, he seems to be somewhat distracted from what I am doing. Since I am into studying neural pathways, I have also studied what parts of the brain do what (Speech, language, music, etc...)In doing so, I am able to determine and apply the method of what I call " brain distaction " or " changing the neural pathways " . It is similar to treating a stroke patient. With a stroke patient, for instance, te patient may be able to talk on a telephone, but not face-to-face. (The reason is because they take diffeent pathways in the brain. Someone who cannot speak via face-to-face, can more than likely learn to speak with a phoneto their ear. I discovered this back in 1996, when my reat aunt had a stroke. I just remembered it after Charlie Hart was born.) You all may want to get a simple illustration of the brain and the areas that control each function. (Easily found online.) If you are having a problem in one area, stimulate the other areas on the opposite side of the brain in order to try and fix or remedy your issues. Lanuage is in more than one area and " foreign language " is in a different area than " native speech language " . I hope this helps. <br> -- In MosaicDS , " Fiona & Lee Price " wrote: > > A support list for parents whose babies/children/adult children have been diagnosed with Mosaic Down Syndrome!Hi everyone > > I've been reading all the blogs lately and have noticed a couple of people mention sensory issues. As Hunter is only 8 months old I haven't really had any troubles or come across any issues yet, however, now I realise he probabloy has a sensory issue because whenever I try and wash his hair or wet his face he screams. At first I thought this was just because the water was getting in his eyes so I tried using my hands to cover his face but this didn't work. Then I thought it was because I wasn't giving him a bath or shower every day so I started showering with him everyday, but this hasn't made it any easier either. > > Can I ask those who also have a problem with this, is there anything I can do to help or will he just hate having his hair washed forever. I wanted to start taking him to swimming classes but now I'm a bit worried as I know they dunk the babies under the water (which he will hate). > > I also wanted to ask what other sensory issues can develop. > > Sorry if I'm a bit vague bit this is still all very new to us. > > I also wanted to let Kristy know how much I'm enjoying your blogs on DS and MDS. You write things that are very easy to understand and are a joy to read. Thank you for educating me all over again! > > Fiona > Hunter mds 8mths > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Hi Kristy, Thanks for the sites. I have been on a couple of them already but will check them all out. Every little bit helps in some way or another. ty again > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; A support list for parents whose babies/children/ adult children > & gt; have been diagnosed with Mosaic Down Syndrome!Hi everyone > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I've been reading all the blogs lately and have noticed a couple > of > & gt; people mention sensory issues. As Hunter is only 8 months old I > & gt; haven't really had any troubles or come across any issues yet, > & gt; however, now I realise he probabloy has a sensory issue because > & gt; whenever I try and wash his hair or wet his face he screams. At > & gt; first I thought this was just because the water was getting in his > & gt; eyes so I tried using my hands to cover his face but this didn't > & gt; work. Then I thought it was because I wasn't giving him a bath or > & gt; shower every day so I started showering with him everyday, but this > & gt; hasn't made it any easier either. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Can I ask those who also have a problem with this, is there > & gt; anything I can do to help or will he just hate having his hair > washed > & gt; forever. I wanted to start taking him to swimming classes but now > & gt; I'm a bit worried as I know they dunk the babies under the water > & gt; (which he will hate). > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I also wanted to ask what other sensory issues can develop. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Sorry if I'm a bit vague bit this is still all very new to us. > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; I also wanted to let Kristy know how much I'm enjoying your blogs > & gt; on DS and MDS. You write things that are very easy to understand > and > & gt; are a joy to read. Thank you for educating me all over again! > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Fiona > & gt; & gt; Hunter mds 8mths > & gt; & gt; > & gt; & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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