Re: This is what is working so far!!

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Jeanie,

Oh....I never even thought of trying alphalpha? Is that what your son takes? Can you tell me all what your son takes and what's working for you at the moment? Is it just the kirkmans that really has done the job for you? I want to stay as natural as I can with getting my son cleared up.

Cayce

From: cayceus <cayceusyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:08 PM

Hello all! Sorry I have not been around much but been very busy with life. My son has been off of miralax since Janruary! It was very scary at first and we've had many difficulties when we took him off. We took him off cold turkey after telling the GAstro doc that we were not satisfied with the side effects, etc. He went to the bathroom regularly after that for several weeks....still in his diaper of course. He is three years old and two months old! We found that after the miralax had left his system and wore off that he had a HARD time pushing out the poo on his own even when it was relatively soft. He would become frustrated, etc. Almost like his bowels were paralyzed! We ended up using over the counter stool softeners, senna strips for another month and this is what worked for us for a while. Over time though my son got good at holding it in...this was our biggests struggle. He was having reactions to the pedi-lax stool softener so we took him

off of it. Little did we know that it contained a small amount of PEG and red dye which he is allergic to we just found out.I found myself feeling pushed to use suppositories, etc and it only took once for my son to realize that he would rather sit on the potty and try to go rather than have these awful things daily. So....that night after having a horrible fight with him and having to resort to an enema that night because he refused to poop in his diaper anymore....he cried as he announced that he wanted to try the potty! Little did I know that this was a blessing in disguise and now looking back I feel SURE that it was impossible to potty train him while on a laxative and he got so tired of pooping in his pants and us having to change him. He pooped in the potty from that day on! I have tried to drop all laxatives, etc but once he has had a hard poop things seem to reverse again. Fear sets in and then he starts witholding again. So this is

what we are doing at the moment that seems to be working:I daily give him a teaspoon of Bowel formula #3 by Dr. Schulze....which is an herbal formula to help with constipation and to prevent it. Seems to be working marvelously.Along with that I give him one capsule of colace daily which is just a stool softener without all the laxative stuff, stimulants in it. I think over time as he gets past the fear of going we can then take him off the stool softener, etc and gradually take him off the bowel formula as well. Along with this we are doing a really healthy diet with lots of fiber, juice, probiotics, supplements like aloe vera and daily potty sits. We do potty sits after breakfast and dinner. Some days he cries and does not want to go and then some days is fine! Im just so happy to be off the miralax this long. We will keep going and see what the next steps will be. We are doing antifungals, etc and working on his tummy issues. One day

hoping he will be home free! Once it warms up we will go all out with the potty training and train him to also pee pee in the potty instead of a pull up. This is a HUGE leap for us! We never want to go back to miralax or harsh laxatives.

[Guest guest]

Jeanie,

Where can I find the juice boxes you mentioned? Is this something I can find at the healthfood store? Im getting tired of the balancing act! We did order the fruit-eze a few days ago before we got a chance to discuss the kirkmans probiotoc so im guessing that might help with bulking the stool up also. Im eager to try the probiotics you mentioned! The fruit-eze is supposed to help balance the gut flora as well and making it an good environment for the good bacteria.

From: cayceus <cayceusyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:08 PM

Hello all! Sorry I have not been around much but been very busy with life. My son has been off of miralax since Janruary! It was very scary at first and we've had many difficulties when we took him off. We took him off cold turkey after telling the GAstro doc that we were not satisfied with the side effects, etc. He went to the bathroom regularly after that for several weeks....still in his diaper of course. He is three years old and two months old! We found that after the miralax had left his system and wore off that he had a HARD time pushing out the poo on his own even when it was relatively soft. He would become frustrated, etc. Almost like his bowels were paralyzed! We ended up using over the counter stool softeners, senna strips for another month and this is what worked for us for a while. Over time though my son got good at holding it in...this was our biggests struggle. He was having reactions to the pedi-lax stool softener so we took him

off of it. Little did we know that it contained a small amount of PEG and red dye which he is allergic to we just found out.I found myself feeling pushed to use suppositories, etc and it only took once for my son to realize that he would rather sit on the potty and try to go rather than have these awful things daily. So....that night after having a horrible fight with him and having to resort to an enema that night because he refused to poop in his diaper anymore....he cried as he announced that he wanted to try the potty! Little did I know that this was a blessing in disguise and now looking back I feel SURE that it was impossible to potty train him while on a laxative and he got so tired of pooping in his pants and us having to change him. He pooped in the potty from that day on! I have tried to drop all laxatives, etc but once he has had a hard poop things seem to reverse again. Fear sets in and then he starts witholding again. So this is

what we are doing at the moment that seems to be working:I daily give him a teaspoon of Bowel formula #3 by Dr. Schulze....which is an herbal formula to help with constipation and to prevent it. Seems to be working marvelously.Along with that I give him one capsule of colace daily which is just a stool softener without all the laxative stuff, stimulants in it. I think over time as he gets past the fear of going we can then take him off the stool softener, etc and gradually take him off the bowel formula as well. Along with this we are doing a really healthy diet with lots of fiber, juice, probiotics, supplements like aloe vera and daily potty sits. We do potty sits after breakfast and dinner. Some days he cries and does not want to go and then some days is fine! Im just so happy to be off the miralax this long. We will keep going and see what the next steps will be. We are doing antifungals, etc and working on his tummy issues. One day

hoping he will be home free! Once it warms up we will go all out with the potty training and train him to also pee pee in the potty instead of a pull up. This is a HUGE leap for us! We never want to go back to miralax or harsh laxatives.

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Im actually using the oregano oil in a diluted form! It's highly diluted and I only give him one drop a day. I was told by an herbalists that it would not harm the good bacteria but only the mutated forms. Like it has a mind of it's own! I only give more if he's sick or ill. This is just a maintence dosage to keep the fungal load down.

Cayce

From: cayceus <cayceusyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:08 PM

Hello all! Sorry I have not been around much but been very busy with life. My son has been off of miralax since Janruary! It was very scary at first and we've had many difficulties when we took him off. We took him off cold turkey after telling the GAstro doc that we were not satisfied with the side effects, etc. He went to the bathroom regularly after that for several weeks....still in his diaper of course. He is three years old and two months old! We found that after the miralax had left his system and wore off that he had a HARD time pushing out the poo on his own even when it was relatively soft. He would become frustrated, etc. Almost like his bowels were paralyzed! We ended up using over the counter stool softeners, senna strips for another month and this is what worked for us for a while. Over time though my son got good at holding it in...this was our biggests struggle. He was having reactions to the pedi-lax stool softener so we took him

off of it. Little did we know that it contained a small amount of PEG and red dye which he is allergic to we just found out.I found myself feeling pushed to use suppositories, etc and it only took once for my son to realize that he would rather sit on the potty and try to go rather than have these awful things daily. So....that night after having a horrible fight with him and having to resort to an enema that night because he refused to poop in his diaper anymore....he cried as he announced that he wanted to try the potty! Little did I know that this was a blessing in disguise and now looking back I feel SURE that it was impossible to potty train him while on a laxative and he got so tired of pooping in his pants and us having to change him. He pooped in the potty from that day on! I have tried to drop all laxatives, etc but once he has had a hard poop things seem to reverse again. Fear sets in and then he starts witholding again. So this is

what we are doing at the moment that seems to be working:I daily give him a teaspoon of Bowel formula #3 by Dr. Schulze....which is an herbal formula to help with constipation and to prevent it. Seems to be working marvelously.Along with that I give him one capsule of colace daily which is just a stool softener without all the laxative stuff, stimulants in it. I think over time as he gets past the fear of going we can then take him off the stool softener, etc and gradually take him off the bowel formula as well. Along with this we are doing a really healthy diet with lots of fiber, juice, probiotics, supplements like aloe vera and daily potty sits. We do potty sits after breakfast and dinner. Some days he cries and does not want to go and then some days is fine! Im just so happy to be off the miralax this long. We will keep going and see what the next steps will be. We are doing antifungals, etc and working on his tummy issues. One day

hoping he will be home free! Once it warms up we will go all out with the potty training and train him to also pee pee in the potty instead of a pull up. This is a HUGE leap for us! We never want to go back to miralax or harsh laxatives.

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Subject: Re: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:54 PM

Jeanie,

Oh....I never even thought of trying alphalpha? Is that what your son takes? Can you tell me all what your son takes and what's working for you at the moment? Is it just the kirkmans that really has done the job for you? I want to stay as natural as I can with getting my son cleared up.

Cayce

From: cayceus <cayceusyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:08 PM

Hello all! Sorry I have not been around much but been very busy with life. My son has been off of miralax since Janruary! It was very scary at first and we've had many difficulties when we took him off. We took him off cold turkey after telling the GAstro doc that we were not satisfied with the side effects, etc. He went to the bathroom regularly after that for several weeks....still in his diaper of course. He is three years old and two months old! We found that after the miralax had left his system and wore off that he had a HARD time pushing out the poo on his own even when it was relatively soft. He would become frustrated, etc. Almost like his bowels were paralyzed! We ended up using over the counter stool softeners, senna strips for another month and this is what worked for us for a while. Over time though my son got good at holding it in...this was our biggests struggle. He was having reactions to the pedi-lax stool softener so we took him

off of it. Little did we know that it contained a small amount of PEG and red dye which he is allergic to we just found out.I found myself feeling pushed to use suppositories, etc and it only took once for my son to realize that he would rather sit on the potty and try to go rather than have these awful things daily. So....that night after having a horrible fight with him and having to resort to an enema that night because he refused to poop in his diaper anymore....he cried as he announced that he wanted to try the potty! Little did I know that this was a blessing in disguise and now looking back I feel SURE that it was impossible to potty train him while on a laxative and he got so tired of pooping in his pants and us having to change him. He pooped in the potty from that day on! I have tried to drop all laxatives, etc but once he has had a hard poop things seem to reverse again. Fear sets in and then he starts witholding again. So this is

what we are doing at the moment that seems to be working:I daily give him a teaspoon of Bowel formula #3 by Dr. Schulze....which is an herbal formula to help with constipation and to prevent it. Seems to be working marvelously.Along with that I give him one capsule of colace daily which is just a stool softener without all the laxative stuff, stimulants in it. I think over time as he gets past the fear of going we can then take him off the stool softener, etc and gradually take him off the bowel formula as well. Along with this we are doing a really healthy diet with lots of fiber, juice, probiotics, supplements like aloe vera and daily potty sits. We do potty sits after breakfast and dinner. Some days he cries and does not want to go and then some days is fine! Im just so happy to be off the miralax this long. We will keep going and see what the next steps will be. We are doing antifungals, etc and working on his tummy issues. One day

hoping he will be home free! Once it warms up we will go all out with the potty training and train him to also pee pee in the potty instead of a pull up. This is a HUGE leap for us! We never want to go back to miralax or harsh laxatives.

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here's the multi-vitamin

http://www.shaklee.net/thehealthyway/product/20007---

Subject: Re: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:54 PM

Jeanie,

Oh....I never even thought of trying alphalpha? Is that what your son takes? Can you tell me all what your son takes and what's working for you at the moment? Is it just the kirkmans that really has done the job for you? I want to stay as natural as I can with getting my son cleared up.

Cayce

From: cayceus <cayceusyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:08 PM

Hello all! Sorry I have not been around much but been very busy with life. My son has been off of miralax since Janruary! It was very scary at first and we've had many difficulties when we took him off. We took him off cold turkey after telling the GAstro doc that we were not satisfied with the side effects, etc. He went to the bathroom regularly after that for several weeks....still in his diaper of course. He is three years old and two months old! We found that after the miralax had left his system and wore off that he had a HARD time pushing out the poo on his own even when it was relatively soft. He would become frustrated, etc. Almost like his bowels were paralyzed! We ended up using over the counter stool softeners, senna strips for another month and this is what worked for us for a while. Over time though my son got good at holding it in...this was our biggests struggle. He was having reactions to the pedi-lax stool softener so we took him

off of it. Little did we know that it contained a small amount of PEG and red dye which he is allergic to we just found out.I found myself feeling pushed to use suppositories, etc and it only took once for my son to realize that he would rather sit on the potty and try to go rather than have these awful things daily. So....that night after having a horrible fight with him and having to resort to an enema that night because he refused to poop in his diaper anymore....he cried as he announced that he wanted to try the potty! Little did I know that this was a blessing in disguise and now looking back I feel SURE that it was impossible to potty train him while on a laxative and he got so tired of pooping in his pants and us having to change him. He pooped in the potty from that day on! I have tried to drop all laxatives, etc but once he has had a hard poop things seem to reverse again. Fear sets in and then he starts witholding again. So this is

what we are doing at the moment that seems to be working:I daily give him a teaspoon of Bowel formula #3 by Dr. Schulze....which is an herbal formula to help with constipation and to prevent it. Seems to be working marvelously.Along with that I give him one capsule of colace daily which is just a stool softener without all the laxative stuff, stimulants in it. I think over time as he gets past the fear of going we can then take him off the stool softener, etc and gradually take him off the bowel formula as well. Along with this we are doing a really healthy diet with lots of fiber, juice, probiotics, supplements like aloe vera and daily potty sits. We do potty sits after breakfast and dinner. Some days he cries and does not want to go and then some days is fine! Im just so happy to be off the miralax this long. We will keep going and see what the next steps will be. We are doing antifungals, etc and working on his tummy issues. One day

hoping he will be home free! Once it warms up we will go all out with the potty training and train him to also pee pee in the potty instead of a pull up. This is a HUGE leap for us! We never want to go back to miralax or harsh laxatives.

[Guest guest]

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Subject: Re: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:58 PM

Jeanie,

Where can I find the juice boxes you mentioned? Is this something I can find at the healthfood store? Im getting tired of the balancing act! We did order the fruit-eze a few days ago before we got a chance to discuss the kirkmans probiotoc so im guessing that might help with bulking the stool up also. Im eager to try the probiotics you mentioned! The fruit-eze is supposed to help balance the gut flora as well and making it an good environment for the good bacteria.

From: cayceus <cayceusyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:08 PM

Hello all! Sorry I have not been around much but been very busy with life. My son has been off of miralax since Janruary! It was very scary at first and we've had many difficulties when we took him off. We took him off cold turkey after telling the GAstro doc that we were not satisfied with the side effects, etc. He went to the bathroom regularly after that for several weeks....still in his diaper of course. He is three years old and two months old! We found that after the miralax had left his system and wore off that he had a HARD time pushing out the poo on his own even when it was relatively soft. He would become frustrated, etc. Almost like his bowels were paralyzed! We ended up using over the counter stool softeners, senna strips for another month and this is what worked for us for a while. Over time though my son got good at holding it in...this was our biggests struggle. He was having reactions to the pedi-lax stool softener so we took him

off of it. Little did we know that it contained a small amount of PEG and red dye which he is allergic to we just found out.I found myself feeling pushed to use suppositories, etc and it only took once for my son to realize that he would rather sit on the potty and try to go rather than have these awful things daily. So....that night after having a horrible fight with him and having to resort to an enema that night because he refused to poop in his diaper anymore....he cried as he announced that he wanted to try the potty! Little did I know that this was a blessing in disguise and now looking back I feel SURE that it was impossible to potty train him while on a laxative and he got so tired of pooping in his pants and us having to change him. He pooped in the potty from that day on! I have tried to drop all laxatives, etc but once he has had a hard poop things seem to reverse again. Fear sets in and then he starts witholding again. So this is

what we are doing at the moment that seems to be working:I daily give him a teaspoon of Bowel formula #3 by Dr. Schulze....which is an herbal formula to help with constipation and to prevent it. Seems to be working marvelously.Along with that I give him one capsule of colace daily which is just a stool softener without all the laxative stuff, stimulants in it. I think over time as he gets past the fear of going we can then take him off the stool softener, etc and gradually take him off the bowel formula as well. Along with this we are doing a really healthy diet with lots of fiber, juice, probiotics, supplements like aloe vera and daily potty sits. We do potty sits after breakfast and dinner. Some days he cries and does not want to go and then some days is fine! Im just so happy to be off the miralax this long. We will keep going and see what the next steps will be. We are doing antifungals, etc and working on his tummy issues. One day

hoping he will be home free! Once it warms up we will go all out with the potty training and train him to also pee pee in the potty instead of a pull up. This is a HUGE leap for us! We never want to go back to miralax or harsh laxatives.

[Guest guest]

Thank you!

From: cayceus <cayceusyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: This is what is working so far!!To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 4:08 PM

Hello all! Sorry I have not been around much but been very busy with life. My son has been off of miralax since Janruary! It was very scary at first and we've had many difficulties when we took him off. We took him off cold turkey after telling the GAstro doc that we were not satisfied with the side effects, etc. He went to the bathroom regularly after that for several weeks....still in his diaper of course. He is three years old and two months old! We found that after the miralax had left his system and wore off that he had a HARD time pushing out the poo on his own even when it was relatively soft. He would become frustrated, etc. Almost like his bowels were paralyzed! We ended up using over the counter stool softeners, senna strips for another month and this is what worked for us for a while. Over time though my son got good at holding it in...this was our biggests struggle. He was having reactions to the pedi-lax stool softener so we took him

off of it. Little did we know that it contained a small amount of PEG and red dye which he is allergic to we just found out.I found myself feeling pushed to use suppositories, etc and it only took once for my son to realize that he would rather sit on the potty and try to go rather than have these awful things daily. So....that night after having a horrible fight with him and having to resort to an enema that night because he refused to poop in his diaper anymore....he cried as he announced that he wanted to try the potty! Little did I know that this was a blessing in disguise and now looking back I feel SURE that it was impossible to potty train him while on a laxative and he got so tired of pooping in his pants and us having to change him. He pooped in the potty from that day on! I have tried to drop all laxatives, etc but once he has had a hard poop things seem to reverse again. Fear sets in and then he starts witholding again. So this is

what we are doing at the moment that seems to be working:I daily give him a teaspoon of Bowel formula #3 by Dr. Schulze....which is an herbal formula to help with constipation and to prevent it. Seems to be working marvelously.Along with that I give him one capsule of colace daily which is just a stool softener without all the laxative stuff, stimulants in it. I think over time as he gets past the fear of going we can then take him off the stool softener, etc and gradually take him off the bowel formula as well. Along with this we are doing a really healthy diet with lots of fiber, juice, probiotics, supplements like aloe vera and daily potty sits. We do potty sits after breakfast and dinner. Some days he cries and does not want to go and then some days is fine! Im just so happy to be off the miralax this long. We will keep going and see what the next steps will be. We are doing antifungals, etc and working on his tummy issues. One day

hoping he will be home free! Once it warms up we will go all out with the potty training and train him to also pee pee in the potty instead of a pull up. This is a HUGE leap for us! We never want to go back to miralax or harsh laxatives.