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Hello to the group,

My name is Charlie. Will I have been lurking for some time may be

making an occasional post but no one knows who I am. First of all

my multiple sclerosis story. In 1993 they found one brain lesion

of which was not enough to say that multiple sclerosis. They washed

up for three years and it did not change. They said that if it was

multiple sclerosis that it would only be a nuisance in my life.

They were wrong but it least they helped me not stop my life. I

knew that I had it I went further in education. I am a

chiropractor. As I was going through school from 95 through 2000 I

noticed more symptoms that I knew what the cause was. I was however

in severe denial and just thought that may be it was just me being

too absorbed in what I was studying. I can specifically remember

that day when my partner in a lab practical foundt he Babinski sign

in my foot and ankle clonus. In 2000 they fd eight lesions are by

brain and finally called it multiple sclerosis. Well in the last

five years the progression has occurred at lightspeed. I kinda felt

that what happened so I opened up my own private practice break

after school.I also got married and divorced with the last five

years. I have to close my business due to the fact that I could not

see the volume of patients to support to support it. I will never

forget my ex-wife telling me that when she left she wanted a husband

who could take walks with her. I swam for exercise and she did not

like this. I can blame multiple sclerosis for all the bad things

that happen to me. It's hard not to do this. Will I still have

some ability in my mind is not affected so I teach anatomy and

physiology and nutrition at a massage therapy school in town. I

have tried a lot of alternative therapies as well as the medical

therapies. I would like to share them even though I do not think

they have been answers to my MS.

2000 through 2002 copaxone with a brief trial of avonex. One round

of IV steroids

2003 Rebif

2004 Copaxone one round of IV steroids Lipitor

2004 Naltrexone

2005 Cladribine five days of chemotherapeutic four times this year

with IV steroids

this is different and not talked about much. They did this

at Rush University medical Center in Chicago at the multiple

sclerosis clinic they have. I was admitted five days in the

hospital each time. They were about to start me on Tysabri. They

also do another chemo called Cytoxan and that is only three days in

a hospital however the side effects of infertility is more likely.

Being that I am only 32 and no kids I chose not to do this

medication.

for symptoms

Baclofen

Amantadine

Wellbutrin

4 AP stll use

Provigil still use

Botox

I will write more as I unfortunately get tired with this typing.

Ideally use Dragon NaturallySpeaking hunt is not the best so forgive

any fanatic errors. I guess that I don't have it trained well

enough. I did not pay $900 I only paid $90. I got it at computer

show back in 2002. I wonder if an upgrade version is better mine is

version 6.

Happy Thanksgiving to all

Charlie

PS I will write about my alternative therapies soon. I have done

many and spent a lot of money. And traveled far.

Next up for me is Lyme's disease testing. Everyone look at QribB

testing at www.bowen.org thet are a not for profit co., but then

again so are a lot of hospitals.

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Hi Charlie!

I am a chiropractor, too, but I used Edgar Cayce's remedies to

successfully treat my MS. I never did go the medical route: no

drugs--just alternatives. For more information about natural treatments

that are helping MSers, visit the Multiple Sclerosis Alternatives

webring at

http://i.webring.com/hub?ring=multiplescleros1

All the best,

Dudley Delany

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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Dear ,

Whatever back problems you have, surgery should be a last resort. There

is only one way to know whether chiropractic would help you and that is

to try it. But make sure you get someone really good. It may indeed help

your mobility, along with massage, exercise, and the other things you

are doing.

All the best,

Dudley

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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If you did not go the medical route how were you diagnosed with MS?

--- DudleyDelany@... wrote:

>

> Hi Charlie!

>

> I am a chiropractor, too, but I used Edgar Cayce's remedies to

> successfully treat my MS. I never did go the medical route: no

> drugs--just alternatives. For more information about natural treatments

> that are helping MSers, visit the Multiple Sclerosis Alternatives

> webring at

>

> http://i.webring.com/hub?ring=multiplescleros1

>

> All the best,

>

> Dudley Delany

>

>

> http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

>

>

Never give up!

Never give up!

Never give up!

Dr. Charlie Roessler

303 E. High St.

A

Sycamore, IL 60178

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Hi All,

I am sort of new, I have been reading your interesting mail for a few

months,

now to tell you my story.

I was diagnosed with M.S. in 1973, I have never had an MRI or spinal tap. I

went to my Gp and told him that I had MS. My previous problems had been

Optic Neuritis, lead boot feet and unstable hands. I think he thought so

too. So

what was I to do, we had plans to go on vacation, I was unable to eat or

drink without spills. He sent me to see a neuro privately. Who tested my

leg reflexes, hand coordination and walking a straight line.

That was enough for him to Dx MS. If I wanted a second opinion I could have

a spinal tap. I know what I've got, you know what I've got, that's good

enough for me. He did not believe in the spinal tap, it was an intrusive

test, that

can cause damage.

Next week I returned to my Gp to be told " There is no cure for MS, so don't

call me I'll call you when there is a cure " . In the mean time here is a list

of Vitamins that will help you. So that started my quest with Vitamins and

Alternatives, I got MacDougall's booklet, that got me started on diet

..

In '81 we went to live in Canada, again I was Dxed with MS, again

without an MRI or spinal tap. My previous problems from '73 did not show. I

worked on for another 7 years, the first Canadian problem that I solved was

the leg spasms, I found vitamin B6 worked and still does. A regular visit to

a Chiropractor certainly kept me going because my job included a lot of

walking.

I lived drug free for 20 years, now living back in the U.K. I was talked

into a course of IV steroids, something new with great results for M.S.

Two days after I was rushed to hospital with Septicaemia, I lost the use of

my bladder and ended up in a wheel chair. All the neuro said was, well it

doesn't suit every one, as you can guess I don't have a neuro any more. Now

I am the one who has to live with the mistake I made, if I make a mistake

with herbs or vitamins I stop taking them and no damage done.

We all have are own ideas of looking after ourselves, this is mine.

. York U.K.

> Dudley,

> Have you had an MRI or spinal tap? With all due respect,even though

> you're a chiropractor, how can you know for sure it's MS you have with so

> many other things that can mimic it?

> Just curious

> Desinie

> wrote:

> If you did not go the medical route how were you diagnosed with MS?

>

--- DudleyDelany@... wrote:

>

>>

>> Hi Charlie!

>>

>> I am a chiropractor, too, but I used Edgar Cayce's remedies to

>> successfully treat my MS. I never did go the medical route: no

>> drugs--just alternatives. For more information about natural treatments

>> that are helping MSers, visit the Multiple Sclerosis Alternatives

>> webring at

>>

>> http://i.webring.com/hub?ring=multiplescleros1

>>

>> All the best,

>>

>> Dudley Delany

>>

>>

>> http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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Hi ,

That is awful what happend to you, I am so sorry. Steroids are used so much

that I don't think doctors remember to talk about the possible side effects.

I learned by watching things with my horses. They use steroids in horses

alot, and I have seen some really bad side effects and the owners of the

horses were devastated. When they wanted to put me on them I just threw away

the prescription and walked out.

Are you working on regaining some of your health back?? It might take awhile

but I am sure you can do it.

-- Fw: Sort of New

Hi All,

I am sort of new, I have been reading your interesting mail for a few

months,

now to tell you my story.

I was diagnosed with M.S. in 1973, I have never had an MRI or spinal tap. I

went to my Gp and told him that I had MS. My previous problems had been

Optic Neuritis, lead boot feet and unstable hands. I think he thought so

too. So

what was I to do, we had plans to go on vacation, I was unable to eat or

drink without spills. He sent me to see a neuro privately. Who tested my

leg reflexes, hand coordination and walking a straight line.

That was enough for him to Dx MS. If I wanted a second opinion I could have

a spinal tap. I know what I've got, you know what I've got, that's good

enough for me. He did not believe in the spinal tap, it was an intrusive

test, that

can cause damage.

Next week I returned to my Gp to be told " There is no cure for MS, so don't

call me I'll call you when there is a cure " . In the mean time here is a list

of Vitamins that will help you. So that started my quest with Vitamins and

Alternatives, I got MacDougall's booklet, that got me started on diet

...

In '81 we went to live in Canada, again I was Dxed with MS, again

without an MRI or spinal tap. My previous problems from '73 did not show. I

worked on for another 7 years, the first Canadian problem that I solved was

the leg spasms, I found vitamin B6 worked and still does. A regular visit to

a Chiropractor certainly kept me going because my job included a lot of

walking.

I lived drug free for 20 years, now living back in the U.K. I was talked

into a course of IV steroids, something new with great results for M.S.

Two days after I was rushed to hospital with Septicaemia, I lost the use of

my bladder and ended up in a wheel chair. All the neuro said was, well it

doesn't suit every one, as you can guess I don't have a neuro any more. Now

I am the one who has to live with the mistake I made, if I make a mistake

with herbs or vitamins I stop taking them and no damage done.

We all have are own ideas of looking after ourselves, this is mine.

. York U.K.

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Hi ,

My story is eerily similar to yours but only up until seeing the

neurologist because of the optic neuritis and MS like symptoms. I

refused to accept the diagnosis and thanks to my dad's determination

I didn't have the spinal tap either. Instead we started searching

for answers rather than following the list of suggestions which

included preparing myself for a life in a wheelchair. This all

happened in late seventies with 2 toddlers and a baby of only 3 months old.

It took me 10 years to figure out, all the while getting weaker,

thinner and more miserable. I ended up with the conclusion that it

had to be mercury poisoning. After the procedure (in 1988) to have

all amalgam in my teeth removed and replaced , my health started to

pick up almost immediately. My eye sight returned in blind eye. My

overall health improved but the mercury poisoning of many years had

left me with enough damage that I need to be constantly aware of

eating the right foods, need to be aware of taking extra care to

keep immune system as strong as possible. My immune system was shot

as I called it due to long term poisoning. Multiple allergies,

fibro, difficulty to keep on weight, severe mood swings, brain fog,

being fatigued so severe that it would make me cry, extremely low on

energy... all these and many more I have forgotten about, are things

of the past since I self diagnosed with mercury poisoning and took

the action that saved my life. I had to do it myself as my doctors

and neurologists looked at me with a look on their face which

indicated they thought I was a poor deluded woman with the ideas

about mercury poisoning.

In 2001, I was working as a volunteer on the local ambulance and as

part of this work I was required to have 3 Hep B vaccinations. I

had no objections, how ignorant I was. After the third vaccination

my blood test came back with no antibodies, a puzzling thing for

which no explanation was given but was told not to worry. Have a

fourth one and that would 'fix things'. I had however noticed subtle

neurological problems... leg giving way.. tremors in hand plus some

of the probs I had experienced before as in fatigue, insomnia...all

slight but it dawned on me that they had slowly grown worse after

each of the 3 vacs.... still nothing like 20 years earlier and I

thought more along the lines of probes due to ageing. It was only

after NE Hep B blood test that I asked to know what was in the

vacs. Thimerosal... I kindly declined the offer of 4th

vaccination. Although my action in the late eighties came about

because of self diagnosis, to have a recurrence of symptoms of MS,

however slight, due to Thimerosal - a derivative of mercury - is

enough for me to say that I was spot on with saying it was mercury poisoning.

I guess what I am saying is: in spite of receiving a diagnosis by one

neurologist, or perhaps 2 or even 3... still, keep looking for more

information. It is your health, your life you are talking

about. Learn from whatever you can get your hands on, read and

read, and dare to take responsibility. Doctors know an awful lot,

but there is still an awful lot more they don't know about.

Cheers

Hannah ~ Australia

At 04:29 AM 26/11/2005, you wrote:

>Hi All,

>

>I am sort of new, I have been reading your interesting mail for a few

>months,

>now to tell you my story.

>I was diagnosed with M.S. in 1973, I have never had an MRI or spinal tap. I

>went to my Gp and told him that I had MS. My previous problems had been

>Optic Neuritis, lead boot feet and unstable hands. I think he thought so

>too. So

>what was I to do, we had plans to go on vacation, I was unable to eat or

>drink without spills. He sent me to see a neuro privately. Who tested my

>leg reflexes, hand coordination and walking a straight line.

>That was enough for him to Dx MS. If I wanted a second opinion I could have

>a spinal tap. I know what I've got, you know what I've got, that's good

>enough for me. He did not believe in the spinal tap, it was an intrusive

>test, that

>can cause damage.

>Next week I returned to my Gp to be told " There is no cure for MS, so don't

>call me I'll call you when there is a cure " . In the mean time here is a list

>of Vitamins that will help you. So that started my quest with Vitamins and

>Alternatives, I got MacDougall's booklet, that got me started on diet

>.

>In '81 we went to live in Canada, again I was Dxed with MS, again

>without an MRI or spinal tap. My previous problems from '73 did not show. I

>worked on for another 7 years, the first Canadian problem that I solved was

>the leg spasms, I found vitamin B6 worked and still does. A regular visit to

>a Chiropractor certainly kept me going because my job included a lot of

>walking.

>I lived drug free for 20 years, now living back in the U.K. I was talked

>into a course of IV steroids, something new with great results for M.S.

>Two days after I was rushed to hospital with Septicaemia, I lost the use of

>my bladder and ended up in a wheel chair. All the neuro said was, well it

>doesn't suit every one, as you can guess I don't have a neuro any more. Now

>I am the one who has to live with the mistake I made, if I make a mistake

>with herbs or vitamins I stop taking them and no damage done.

>We all have are own ideas of looking after ourselves, this is mine.

>

>. York U.K.

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