Re: pancreatic dysfunction

[Guest guest]

Regarding the dysfunctional pancreas, the healthy pancreas puts out large

volumes of sodium bicarbonate to neutralise stomach acid and create an alkaline

environment for enzyme output beyond the stomach. I do wonder if this could be a

factor in chronic acid reflux - there seems to be an epidemic of this now with

all those prescriptions for proton pump inhibitors. (Whatever happened to the

old and frequent diagnosis of peptic ulcer?)

These are just thoughts based on my own deductions/observations. What do others

think?

Helen

Re: pancreatitis

Just to echo Helen, have had some good success, despite poor conventional

prognosis. Chionanthus, herb of choice. As a tincture.

However, issues will always be individual - How acute was original episode?

Was it associated with drinking? Has it rumbled on ever since, or is this a new

episode? Have symptoms such as wind, pain , flatulence, floating stools (fat

malabsorption) ever resolved, how are they now etc.

I also agree, since the learning curve that particular patient brought, I do

look to the pancreas more now in relation to digestive issues. But perhaps more

in relation to sugar metabolism stuff.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Interesting. In men, pancreatitis is linked to peptic ulcers, so I

guess that a reduced function of exocrine pancreas could lead to

more acidic contents at the top of the small intestine which may have

repercusions further up the gi tract, especially if sphincters are

weak. Pancreatitis is also, in men, linked to trauma (physical) and

alcohol. In women, it is linked to biliary tract disease. There is a

poor prognosis if related to alcohol. A link with gall stones is

possible, or even with the processes that lead to the development of

gall stones, which makes sense given the use of hepatics and bitters

in the treatment of this condition. Hoffmann somewhere

suggested marshmallow root, balmony, fringe tree and barberry bark or

golden seal. Winston recommends milk thistle, fringe tree and

ceanothus. Also it may make sense to use digestive enzymes if the

pancreas is not able to produce enough or if their movement is

blocked. Even if the cause is 'idiopathic' it seems to make sense to

work in a similar way. Plenty of althea (cold, long infusion) sounds

useful.

best wishes,

Guy Waddell

> Regarding the dysfunctional pancreas, the healthy pancreas puts out

> large volumes of sodium bicarbonate to neutralise stomach acid and

> create an alkaline environment for enzyme output beyond the

> stomach. I do wonder if this could be a factor in chronic acid

> reflux - there seems to be an epidemic of this now with all those

> prescriptions for proton pump inhibitors. (Whatever happened to the

> old and frequent diagnosis of peptic ulcer?)

>

> These are just thoughts based on my own deductions/observations.

> What do others think?

>

> Helen

>

> Re: pancreatitis

>

> Just to echo Helen, have had some good success, despite poor

> conventional prognosis. Chionanthus, herb of choice. As a tincture.

> However, issues will always be individual - How acute was original

> episode? Was it associated with drinking? Has it rumbled on ever

> since, or is this a new episode? Have symptoms such as wind, pain ,

> flatulence, floating stools (fat malabsorption) ever resolved, how

> are they now etc.

> I also agree, since the learning curve that particular patient

> brought, I do look to the pancreas more now in relation to

> digestive issues. But perhaps more in relation to sugar metabolism

> stuff.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I tend to think the acid reflux could be down to too much coffee,

chocolate, fatty foods and chronically eating " on the go " ......

Sally Owen

Helen Duxbury wrote:

> Regarding the dysfunctional pancreas, the healthy pancreas puts out large

volumes of sodium bicarbonate to neutralise stomach acid and create an alkaline

environment for enzyme output beyond the stomach. I do wonder if this could be a

factor in chronic acid reflux - there seems to be an epidemic of this now with

all those prescriptions for proton pump inhibitors. (Whatever happened to the

old and frequent diagnosis of peptic ulcer?)

>

> These are just thoughts based on my own deductions/observations. What do

others think?

>

> Helen

>

> Re: pancreatitis

>

>

>

> Just to echo Helen, have had some good success, despite poor conventional

prognosis. Chionanthus, herb of choice. As a tincture.

> However, issues will always be individual - How acute was original episode?

Was it associated with drinking? Has it rumbled on ever since, or is this a new

episode? Have symptoms such as wind, pain , flatulence, floating stools (fat

malabsorption) ever resolved, how are they now etc.

> I also agree, since the learning curve that particular patient brought, I do

look to the pancreas more now in relation to digestive issues. But perhaps more

in relation to sugar metabolism stuff.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm Helen- I have a patient, autistic spectrum, so loads of food sensitivity

issues, severe epigastric pain, at one point relieved temporarily by

anti-acids, now responding to atropa at last but it's taken me months to get a

grip on in, and have felt really dissatisfied that I didn't really understand

what was going on, or be seeming to make much impression. Simultaneously big

severe mood issues, but also sugar cravings she describes as completely bonkers

and extreme. There are all sorts of other complicated things going on, but have

felt drawn to treating pancreas, haven't done particularly- and now feel to be

kicking myself! Partly let myself be sidetracked by mental health stuff and

wasn't listening carefully enough to what she was saying..

m

Re: pancreatitis

Just to echo Helen, have had some good success, despite poor conventional

prognosis. Chionanthus, herb of choice. As a tincture.

However, issues will always be individual - How acute was original episode?

Was it associated with drinking? Has it rumbled on ever since, or is this a new

episode? Have symptoms such as wind, pain , flatulence, floating stools (fat

malabsorption) ever resolved, how are they now etc.

I also agree, since the learning curve that particular patient brought, I do

look to the pancreas more now in relation to digestive issues. But perhaps more

in relation to sugar metabolism stuff.

[Guest guest]

Hi

I've not had much success treating the pancreas for sugar cravings, but perhaps

others have. Hopefully you're supporting the adrenals and giving nutritional

supplements?

Helen

Re: pancreatitis

Just to echo Helen, have had some good success, despite poor conventional

prognosis. Chionanthus, herb of choice. As a tincture.

However, issues will always be individual - How acute was original episode?

Was it associated with drinking? Has it rumbled on ever since, or is this a new

episode? Have symptoms such as wind, pain , flatulence, floating stools (fat

malabsorption) ever resolved, how are they now etc.

I also agree, since the learning curve that particular patient brought, I do

look to the pancreas more now in relation to digestive issues. But perhaps more

in relation to sugar metabolism stuff.

[Guest guest]

Re: pancreatitis

Just to echo Helen, have had some good success, despite poor conventional

prognosis. Chionanthus, herb of choice. As a tincture.

However, issues will always be individual - How acute was original episode?

Was it associated with drinking? Has it rumbled on ever since, or is this a new

episode? Have symptoms such as wind, pain , flatulence, floating stools (fat

malabsorption) ever resolved, how are they now etc.

I also agree, since the learning curve that particular patient brought, I do

look to the pancreas more now in relation to digestive issues. But perhaps more

in relation to sugar metabolism stuff.

[Guest guest]

Morning, yes to both. I think the issue is less about treating the pancreas for

sugar cravings, as seeing them as a clue to what is going on.

m

Re: pancreatitis

Just to echo Helen, have had some good success, despite poor conventional

prognosis. Chionanthus, herb of choice. As a tincture.

However, issues will always be individual - How acute was original episode?

Was it associated with drinking? Has it rumbled on ever since, or is this a new

episode? Have symptoms such as wind, pain , flatulence, floating stools (fat

malabsorption) ever resolved, how are they now etc.

I also agree, since the learning curve that particular patient brought, I do

look to the pancreas more now in relation to digestive issues. But perhaps more

in relation to sugar metabolism stuff.