Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi, Maggie, Ugh! Your mom sounds very determined. These things usually pass after a while, but she has stuck to her guns about the pajamas for over a year. Is there any way she would wear even slipper socks or something like that instead of shoes. Is there any way you can take her shoes off after she falls asleep? I am kind of at a loss for good suggestions on this one. I will be keeping you in my thoughts. Hugs, Piper ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular clothes. I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one day. But Nothing. Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go thru this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath and your need to relax., let's take your shoes off, i even take them off and she will put them back on. Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. Anyone have any ideas? Maggie/So California ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Maggie, our LO's can go through so many of these weird things. My granda refused to take his slippers off when he went to bed also. How about gently slipping into the conversation at bedtime that she'd asked you earlier on to have her shoes re-soled or heeled and if she takes them off then you can take them first thing in the morning. .xx Feedback please My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular clothes. I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one day. But Nothing. Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go thru this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath and your need to relax., let's take your shoes off, i even take them off and she will put them back on. Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. Anyone have any ideas? Maggie/So California __________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 HI Maggie, What a time you must be having. Would you mother wear those leisure suits - track pants and tops? Maybe if you brought in a set for her as a present and asked her to wear it you may slowly be able to replace her wearing her regular clothes with these - a lot more comfy I'm sure. You've got me stumped on the shoes. Best of luck and please let us know how you make out. Courage Feedback please My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular clothes. I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one day. But Nothing. Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go thru this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath and your need to relax., let's take your shoes off, i even take them off and she will put them back on. Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. Anyone have any ideas? Maggie/So California __________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi, maggie - Maybe this is pretty widespread - I don't know. And I don't know " why " it happens - just another odd twist of LBD. My mom goes through phases like you're describing. The pj thing from time to time. So sometimes she sleeps in regular clothes - I don't really care as long as she sleeps. Does your mom say " why " she won't wear pjs? My mom said they were for babies! And she doesn't want to put on shoes. I can't convince her to do anything at such times, so I no longer try. I have taken her out to restaurants without shoes (she doesn't walk anymore)! I'm probably suspected of elder abuse. Would your mom take shoes off during the day for awhile? If so, this would give them the breathing time you want. Let us know how it goes. Lin M Sumner wrote: My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular clothes. I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one day. But Nothing. Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go thru this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath and your need to relax., let's take your shoes off, i even take them off and she will put them back on. Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. Anyone have any ideas? Maggie/So California ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 Welcome to LBDcaregivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 maggie wrote: > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular clothes. > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one day. > But Nothing. > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go thru > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes off, > i even take them off and she will put them back on. > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > Does she say why she needs her shoes on? Mom usually has a reason (however odd it may be) for what she does. I try to remember that just because it seems uncomfortable for me doesn't mean it is for Mom, and sometimes I think she just wants to retain some sense of independence and doing things her way. jacqui (in Puget Sound) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thank you Jacqui, I has been so hot in so california..105 most of the day and now 7 still 100 degree. They must be making her HOT. She will say they have to stay on, and she is suppose to keep them on when she sleeps. I can not figure this one out. Maggie --- jacqui wrote: > maggie wrote: > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > clothes. > > > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one > day. > > But Nothing. > > > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > thru > > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath > > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > off, > > i even take them off and she will put them back > on. > > > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > > > > > Does she say why she needs her shoes on? Mom > usually has a reason > (however odd it may be) for what she does. > > I try to remember that just because it seems > uncomfortable for me > doesn't mean it is for Mom, and sometimes I think > she just wants to > retain some sense of independence and doing things > her way. > > jacqui (in Puget Sound) > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thank you Lin, The only time she takes them off, is during shower and after for 5 minutes till i use blow dryer to make sure they are totally dry and not be wearing shoes with wet feet. I think she does not know why she does it. She will go, OHH NO, OHH NO and if i slip them off, she gets out of bed and he has them on 1 minute later. It is so strange Maggie --- l pratt wrote: > Hi, maggie - > Maybe this is pretty widespread - I don't know. > And I don't know " why " it happens - just another odd > twist of LBD. My mom goes through phases like you're > describing. The pj thing from time to time. So > sometimes she sleeps in regular clothes - I don't > really care as long as she sleeps. Does your mom say > " why " she won't wear pjs? My mom said they were for > babies! And she doesn't want to put on shoes. I > can't convince her to do anything at such times, so > I no longer try. I have taken her out to restaurants > without shoes (she doesn't walk anymore)! I'm > probably suspected of elder abuse. Would your mom > take shoes off during the day for awhile? If so, > this would give them the breathing time you want. > Let us know how it goes. > Lin > M Sumner wrote: > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > clothes. > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one day. > But Nothing. > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go thru > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes off, > i even take them off and she will put them back on. > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Maggie/So California > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > Welcome to LBDcaregivers. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thank you Courage, I will not give up. I am more worried about her feet's health...If she might get infection or something. Like i said in other e mails, the temperature here has been over 100, these are not open shoes, they are closed shoes, they must be getting sweatty and all. Just don 't know what to do, i tried changing her shoes to sandals and same thing she will go OHHH NO and put them back. Strange. Maggie --- gaat wrote: > HI Maggie, > > What a time you must be having. > Would you mother wear those leisure suits - track > pants and tops? Maybe if you brought in a set for > her as a present and asked her to wear it you may > slowly be able to replace her wearing her regular > clothes with these - a lot more comfy I'm sure. > You've got me stumped on the shoes. > Best of luck and please let us know how you make > out. > Courage > > Feedback please > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > clothes. > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one > day. > But Nothing. > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > thru > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > off, > i even take them off and she will put them back > on. > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Maggie/So California > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thank you for feedback , Even more than the shoes, i am worried about what is next?...What will doing this do to her feet, bacteria? Infection? It has been HOT here. So confused, but i will try eveything recommended and see how things go. What a dilema ??? Maggie --- daniel campbell wrote: > Maggie, our LO's can go through so many of these > weird things. My granda refused to take his slippers > off when he went to bed also. How about gently > slipping into the conversation at bedtime that she'd > asked you earlier on to have her shoes re-soled or > heeled and if she takes them off then you can take > them first thing in the morning. > .xx > Feedback please > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > clothes. > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one > day. > But Nothing. > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > thru > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > off, > i even take them off and she will put them back > on. > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Maggie/So California > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Have you tried taking them off after she is asleep and then putting them where she can't see them? If she asks for them, tell her you had to take them to the repairman for repairs and see what happens. --- M Sumner wrote: > Thank you Courage, > > I will not give up. I am more worried about her > feet's health...If she might get infection > or something. > > Like i said in other e mails, the temperature > here has been over 100, these are not open > shoes, they are closed shoes, they must be > getting sweatty and all. > > Just don 't know what to do, i tried > changing her shoes to sandals and same thing > she will go OHHH NO and put them back. > > Strange. > > Maggie > --- gaat wrote: > > > HI Maggie, > > > > What a time you must be having. > > Would you mother wear those leisure suits - track > > pants and tops? Maybe if you brought in a set for > > her as a present and asked her to wear it you may > > slowly be able to replace her wearing her regular > > clothes with these - a lot more comfy I'm sure. > > You've got me stumped on the shoes. > > Best of luck and please let us know how you make > > out. > > Courage > > > > Feedback please > > > > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > > clothes. > > > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one > > day. > > But Nothing. > > > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > > thru > > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to > breath > > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > > off, > > i even take them off and she will put them back > > on. > > > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Maggie/So California > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - > Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Jacqui, You would think she would want them off due to heat, but no, it changes nothing and she is not bothered by it either. She only goes to day care 4 hours a few times a week and no one has told her to keep them on, it is something she has made up on her own. Very worried about infection or bacteria causing problem. No sign of overheated either. I told her i needed to clean them and i would bring them back, she went into a mini rage She went crazy as if i was assaulting her very strange. maggie --- jacqui wrote: > M Sumner wrote: > > >I has been so hot in so california..105 most of > >the day and now 7 still 100 degree. They must > >be making her HOT. > > > > > > One would think, but Mom's thermostat is broken and > she wears a > sweatshirt and a sweater in 90 degree weather and > still complains of > being cold. When I hold her hand, it is indeed on > the cool side. Do > you see her flushing or showing signs of being > overheated? > > >She will say they have to stay on, and she is > >suppose to keep them on when she sleeps. > > > > > > Mom thought there were things she was required to do > at the nursing home > by someone, I am not quite sure who it was. I > generally ask her to tell > me who it is that has given these instructions and > if it is something > I'd like to have done differently, I ask her if she > would like me to > talk to them and see if they can change the order > (Mom is a retired RN > and so " doctor's orders " is meaningful to her). > > The issue of problems with the feet that will be > tough to observe > because of the shoes is valid, and if she won't buy > into the doctor or > some other authority saying she needs to have them > off at night or to > wear something like slippers instead, then it is a > dilemma. > > With Mom, I am able to do things like taking her > shoes and telling her > they need to be adjusted, and giving her something > more suitable in > their place. I don't know if this would work for > you. > > jacqui (in Puget Sound) > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 June, Thank you. I have tried that, but will try again tonight. She will actually wake up from sleep and she will go crazy looking for them, one time i put them high up inside her closet, she picked another pair of shoe and put those on to bed. Maggie --- June Christensen wrote: > Have you tried taking them off after she is asleep > and > then putting them where she can't see them? If she > asks for them, tell her you had to take them to the > repairman for repairs and see what happens. > > > --- M Sumner wrote: > > > Thank you Courage, > > > > I will not give up. I am more worried about her > > feet's health...If she might get infection > > or something. > > > > Like i said in other e mails, the temperature > > here has been over 100, these are not open > > shoes, they are closed shoes, they must be > > getting sweatty and all. > > > > Just don 't know what to do, i tried > > changing her shoes to sandals and same thing > > she will go OHHH NO and put them back. > > > > Strange. > > > > Maggie > > --- gaat wrote: > > > > > HI Maggie, > > > > > > What a time you must be having. > > > Would you mother wear those leisure suits - > track > > > pants and tops? Maybe if you brought in a set > for > > > her as a present and asked her to wear it you > may > > > slowly be able to replace her wearing her > regular > > > clothes with these - a lot more comfy I'm sure. > > > You've got me stumped on the shoes. > > > Best of luck and please let us know how you make > > > out. > > > Courage > > > > > > Feedback please > > > > > > > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on > her > > > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > > > clothes. > > > > > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas > one > > > day. > > > But Nothing. > > > > > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > > > thru > > > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to > > breath > > > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > > > off, > > > i even take them off and she will put them > back > > > on. > > > > > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do > it. > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > Maggie/So California > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - > > Check it out. > > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 M Sumner wrote: >I has been so hot in so california..105 most of >the day and now 7 still 100 degree. They must >be making her HOT. > > One would think, but Mom's thermostat is broken and she wears a sweatshirt and a sweater in 90 degree weather and still complains of being cold. When I hold her hand, it is indeed on the cool side. Do you see her flushing or showing signs of being overheated? >She will say they have to stay on, and she is >suppose to keep them on when she sleeps. > > Mom thought there were things she was required to do at the nursing home by someone, I am not quite sure who it was. I generally ask her to tell me who it is that has given these instructions and if it is something I'd like to have done differently, I ask her if she would like me to talk to them and see if they can change the order (Mom is a retired RN and so " doctor's orders " is meaningful to her). The issue of problems with the feet that will be tough to observe because of the shoes is valid, and if she won't buy into the doctor or some other authority saying she needs to have them off at night or to wear something like slippers instead, then it is a dilemma. With Mom, I am able to do things like taking her shoes and telling her they need to be adjusted, and giving her something more suitable in their place. I don't know if this would work for you. jacqui (in Puget Sound) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 M Sumner wrote: >I told her i needed to clean them and i would >bring them back, she went into a mini rage >She went crazy as if i was assaulting her >very strange. > *hug* jacqui (in Puget Sound) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Maggie, I empathize with your frustrations. Maybe we just pick the battles that we can win. If she wants to wear her clothes and shoes , then let her. That will just be one less thing you have to contend with. The clothes and the shoes are not hurting her; they even give her a sense of control. I know from the history books that wearing your clothes was done in Europe in previous centuries. My prayers are with you. You have great courage. Don't let this clothing issue get you down. Hugs and good wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Maggie - Okay, now i understand better your concern - you're worried about fungal infections. Are her feet bathed as part of her hygiene along with body bath? If so, then someone is keeping an eye on her feet. If not, and if she likes " getting clean " or " smelling good " or whatever might appeal to her - how about asking her to help you give her shoes and her feet a bath? I don't know if these shoes can be dampened or not - if no, you may have to use powder or anything that resembles cleaning solution. If you aren't invested in your mom having her shoes off specifically at night, you could do this during the day. You just need an approach and props your mom would go for, but this kind of circuitous route might work better than the direct " you have to do it. " Could just be my mom, but she will automatically disagree whenever I - or anyone - gives instructions. Guess she needs to feel in charge, so I engage her help and guidance instead -and let her show me " how to do it. " meanwhile, I get done whatever it is that needs doing. Obviously your mom " needs " her shoes on - is there a way to figure out why? If so, then you'll know what kind of " trick " you can perform. Keep us posted. Lin Donna Mido wrote: Maggie, Have you told the MD and had him tell her she can't wear them to bed. Sometimes it just takes the right person. Does she have a favorite person, even a little one? Have them ask her how come she is wearing her shoes. Somewhere in her head she has a good reason and if you can find out what it is, it might be easier to solve. Some times they are worried they won't be " ready " in time. These are just a few of my thoughts.Hope things work out. Hugs, Donna R Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other than mine. Re: Feedback please June, Thank you. I have tried that, but will try again tonight. She will actually wake up from sleep and she will go crazy looking for them, one time i put them high up inside her closet, she picked another pair of shoe and put those on to bed. Maggie --- June Christensen wrote: > Have you tried taking them off after she is asleep > and > then putting them where she can't see them? If she > asks for them, tell her you had to take them to the > repairman for repairs and see what happens. > > > --- M Sumner wrote: > > > Thank you Courage, > > > > I will not give up. I am more worried about her > > feet's health...If she might get infection > > or something. > > > > Like i said in other e mails, the temperature > > here has been over 100, these are not open > > shoes, they are closed shoes, they must be > > getting sweatty and all. > > > > Just don 't know what to do, i tried > > changing her shoes to sandals and same thing > > she will go OHHH NO and put them back. > > > > Strange. > > > > Maggie > > --- gaat wrote: > > > > > HI Maggie, > > > > > > What a time you must be having. > > > Would you mother wear those leisure suits - > track > > > pants and tops? Maybe if you brought in a set > for > > > her as a present and asked her to wear it you > may > > > slowly be able to replace her wearing her > regular > > > clothes with these - a lot more comfy I'm sure. > > > You've got me stumped on the shoes. > > > Best of luck and please let us know how you make > > > out. > > > Courage > > > > > > Feedback please > > > > > > > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on > her > > > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > > > clothes. > > > > > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas > one > > > day. > > > But Nothing. > > > > > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > > > thru > > > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to > > breath > > > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > > > off, > > > i even take them off and she will put them > back > > > on. > > > > > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do > it. > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > Maggie/So California > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! 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Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Dear maggie, i missed your post from yesterday when replying to today's message. When you bathe her feet, do you see any sign of infection? If not, you can probably relax. My mom becomes hysterical if I hide anything or try to tell her " why' she needs to do any given thing. So like I said elsewhere, I take a very circuitous route. What about two foot baths a day during this heat that worries you? And has your mom seen - or have you consulted - a podiatrist? You can explain your concern and what you are able to do with the foot bath. Of course we know our feet are supposed to " breathe. " And only you can judge to what degree this needs to be an issue. But perhaps getting an expert opinion from a podiatrist who works with elders and the demented would be helpful. Peace, Lin M Sumner wrote: Thank you Lin, The only time she takes them off, is during shower and after for 5 minutes till i use blow dryer to make sure they are totally dry and not be wearing shoes with wet feet. I think she does not know why she does it. She will go, OHH NO, OHH NO and if i slip them off, she gets out of bed and he has them on 1 minute later. It is so strange Maggie --- l pratt wrote: > Hi, maggie - > Maybe this is pretty widespread - I don't know. > And I don't know " why " it happens - just another odd > twist of LBD. My mom goes through phases like you're > describing. The pj thing from time to time. So > sometimes she sleeps in regular clothes - I don't > really care as long as she sleeps. Does your mom say > " why " she won't wear pjs? My mom said they were for > babies! And she doesn't want to put on shoes. I > can't convince her to do anything at such times, so > I no longer try. I have taken her out to restaurants > without shoes (she doesn't walk anymore)! I'm > probably suspected of elder abuse. Would your mom > take shoes off during the day for awhile? If so, > this would give them the breathing time you want. > Let us know how it goes. > Lin > M Sumner wrote: > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > clothes. > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one day. > But Nothing. > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go thru > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes off, > i even take them off and she will put them back on. > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Maggie/So California > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > Welcome to LBDcaregivers. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Would it help if the dr told her it would be best now to leave them off? Re: Feedback please Jacqui, You would think she would want them off due to heat, but no, it changes nothing and she is not bothered by it either. She only goes to day care 4 hours a few times a week and no one has told her to keep them on, it is something she has made up on her own. Very worried about infection or bacteria causing problem. No sign of overheated either. I told her i needed to clean them and i would bring them back, she went into a mini rage She went crazy as if i was assaulting her very strange. maggie --- jacqui wrote: > M Sumner wrote: > > >I has been so hot in so california..105 most of > >the day and now 7 still 100 degree. They must > >be making her HOT. > > > > > > One would think, but Mom's thermostat is broken and > she wears a > sweatshirt and a sweater in 90 degree weather and > still complains of > being cold. When I hold her hand, it is indeed on > the cool side. Do > you see her flushing or showing signs of being > overheated? > > >She will say they have to stay on, and she is > >suppose to keep them on when she sleeps. > > > > > > Mom thought there were things she was required to do > at the nursing home > by someone, I am not quite sure who it was. I > generally ask her to tell > me who it is that has given these instructions and > if it is something > I'd like to have done differently, I ask her if she > would like me to > talk to them and see if they can change the order > (Mom is a retired RN > and so " doctor's orders " is meaningful to her). > > The issue of problems with the feet that will be > tough to observe > because of the shoes is valid, and if she won't buy > into the doctor or > some other authority saying she needs to have them > off at night or to > wear something like slippers instead, then it is a > dilemma. > > With Mom, I am able to do things like taking her > shoes and telling her > they need to be adjusted, and giving her something > more suitable in > their place. I don't know if this would work for > you. > > jacqui (in Puget Sound) > __________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Thank you so much Lin, I greatly appreciate all your in put . Today i took a better approach and after her bath had her sit on a chair and took away her shoes while i dried her feet and while a blow dryed her hair, so today she got 1/2 hour without her shoes. Another thing i did today, during the drive to her day care, told her to please at night, remove your shoes...I will try to mention each day, and see if after the end of the month, one of those comments maybe stick . I can only hope. She has been doing this for 2 months, so i have not notice any damage, but it is just not natural i know, i can not stand to have shoes on that long. She does have appointment in 15 days with doctor i will see what he says, that is a good idea you had to check with a doctor, but it sure worries me. We talk all day long, we probably only connect 4 minutes a day, so if i can tap in and let her know about her shoes at times like that, i will have won the battle. Even more than shoes, i am just horrified what else she might have coming in similar style or whatever you might call it. Take care and thank you Maggie - l pratt wrote: > Dear maggie, i missed your post from yesterday when > replying to today's message. When you bathe her > feet, do you see any sign of infection? If not, you > can probably relax. My mom becomes hysterical if I > hide anything or try to tell her " why' she needs to > do any given thing. So like I said elsewhere, I take > a very circuitous route. What about two foot baths a > day during this heat that worries you? And has your > mom seen - or have you consulted - a podiatrist? You > can explain your concern and what you are able to do > with the foot bath. Of course we know our feet are > supposed to " breathe. " And only you can judge to > what degree this needs to be an issue. But perhaps > getting an expert opinion from a podiatrist who > works with elders and the demented would be helpful. > > Peace, Lin > > M Sumner wrote: > Thank you Lin, > > The only time she takes them off, is during > shower and after for 5 minutes till i use blow > dryer to make sure they are totally dry and not > be wearing shoes with wet feet. > > I think she does not know why she does it. > > She will go, OHH NO, OHH NO and if i slip them > off, she gets out of bed and he has them on > 1 minute later. > > It is so strange > > Maggie > --- l pratt wrote: > > > Hi, maggie - > > Maybe this is pretty widespread - I don't know. > > And I don't know " why " it happens - just another > odd > > twist of LBD. My mom goes through phases like > you're > > describing. The pj thing from time to time. So > > sometimes she sleeps in regular clothes - I don't > > really care as long as she sleeps. Does your mom > say > > " why " she won't wear pjs? My mom said they were > for > > babies! And she doesn't want to put on shoes. I > > can't convince her to do anything at such times, > so > > I no longer try. I have taken her out to > restaurants > > without shoes (she doesn't walk anymore)! I'm > > probably suspected of elder abuse. Would your mom > > take shoes off during the day for awhile? If so, > > this would give them the breathing time you want. > > Let us know how it goes. > > Lin > > M Sumner wrote: > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > > clothes. > > > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one > day. > > But Nothing. > > > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > thru > > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath > > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > off, > > i even take them off and she will put them back > on. > > > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Maggie/So California > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > > > > Welcome to LBDcaregivers. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Lin, All good ideas, and yes fungal infection, or even a minor infection does worry me. I will continue to try new things till something works, my mother for sure has problem with listening to anything i have to say, she is very combative to any suggestion i am sure this is part of her LBD and i take a deep breath and try to move on, but to show you how combative she can be, i took her to rest room after her day care and had her wash her hands, I hand her a paper towel, but she instead of taking paper towel from me, she wanted to use towel dirty already in trash can, i took her face in my hand and had her look at me, i said mom, please, this towel is clean, please take this one...You know what she did? She dried her hands on her shirt, it is like she just hates anything i suggest, she was not like this before. To this day, she thinks nothing is wrong with her or her memory and she tells me so. So when i say something, no matter how minor it s like, you are not going to tell me what to do . You have given me lots of good tips, i will keep everyone posted as to which one works, because i know in a few months, it will be something new all over again. She is 99 percent of the time, singing and very happy, then she has moments like with paper towel and tells me , wow is she changing ? and it is scary. Next time it could be crossing the street or parking lot, or something that could hurt her. Sigh!!! Take care, Maggie --- l pratt wrote: > Maggie - > Okay, now i understand better your concern - > you're worried about fungal infections. Are her feet > bathed as part of her hygiene along with body bath? > If so, then someone is keeping an eye on her feet. > If not, and if she likes " getting clean " or > " smelling good " or whatever might appeal to her - > how about asking her to help you give her shoes and > her feet a bath? I don't know if these shoes can be > dampened or not - if no, you may have to use powder > or anything that resembles cleaning solution. If you > aren't invested in your mom having her shoes off > specifically at night, you could do this during the > day. > > You just need an approach and props your mom > would go for, but this kind of circuitous route > might work better than the direct " you have to do > it. " Could just be my mom, but she will > automatically disagree whenever I - or anyone - > gives instructions. Guess she needs to feel in > charge, so I engage her help and guidance instead > -and let her show me " how to do it. " meanwhile, I > get done whatever it is that needs doing. > > Obviously your mom " needs " her shoes on - is there > a way to figure out why? If so, then you'll know > what kind of " trick " you can perform. > > Keep us posted. > > Lin > > Donna Mido wrote: > Maggie, > > Have you told the MD and had him tell her she can't > wear them to bed. Sometimes it just takes the right > person. > > Does she have a favorite person, even a little one? > Have them ask her how come she is wearing her shoes. > > > Somewhere in her head she has a good reason and if > you can find out what it is, it might be easier to > solve. Some times they are worried they won't be > " ready " in time. > > These are just a few of my thoughts.Hope things work > out. > > Hugs, > > Donna R > > Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) > for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. > She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other > than mine. > > > Re: Feedback please > > June, > > Thank you. > I have tried that, but will try again tonight. > She will actually wake up from sleep and she will > go crazy looking for them, one time i put them > high up inside her closet, she picked another pair > of > shoe and put those on to bed. > > Maggie > > > > --- June Christensen > wrote: > > > Have you tried taking them off after she is asleep > > and > > then putting them where she can't see them? If she > > asks for them, tell her you had to take them to > the > > repairman for repairs and see what happens. > > > > > > --- M Sumner wrote: > > > > > Thank you Courage, > > > > > > I will not give up. I am more worried about her > > > feet's health...If she might get infection > > > or something. > > > > > > Like i said in other e mails, the temperature > > > here has been over 100, these are not open > > > shoes, they are closed shoes, they must be > > > getting sweatty and all. > > > > > > Just don 't know what to do, i tried > > > changing her shoes to sandals and same thing > > > she will go OHHH NO and put them back. > > > > > > Strange. > > > > > > Maggie > > > --- gaat wrote: > > > > > > > HI Maggie, > > > > > > > > What a time you must be having. > > > > Would you mother wear those leisure suits - > > track > > > > pants and tops? Maybe if you brought in a set > > for > > > > her as a present and asked her to wear it you > > may > > > > slowly be able to replace her wearing her > > regular > > > > clothes with these - a lot more comfy I'm > sure. > > > > You've got me stumped on the shoes. > > > > Best of luck and please let us know how you > make > > > > out. > > > > Courage > > > > > > > > Feedback please > > > > > > > > > > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on > > her > > > > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > > > > clothes. > > > > > > > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas > > one > > > > day. > > > > But Nothing. > > > > > > > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > > > > thru > > > > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to > > > breath > > > > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > > > > off, > > > > i even take them off and she will put them > > back > > > > on. > > > > > > > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do > > it. > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > > > Maggie/So California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > > > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > > > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > > answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Maggie, Call the MD before you go and tell him what your problem is or email him. Ask him for his support in telling her not to wear shoes to bed. Or maybe that she has to wear slippers to bed these days. Yes, there are going to be other things. I hear the frustration in your email. I bet she hears it when you talk to her. Each time that happens for her, she is reminded she has a problem of dementia. I think she doesn't hear the worry you have, I think she hears that she is a problem! Get her some nice bedroom slippers that she can't resist that you can give her as a gift that she will like and can wear to bed. Lots of fuzzy and warm and colorful. Maybe some of those animal ones. Trade her! Shoes for slippers. If you make this play, it might work. Get someone else to give her the slippers. That might work even better. It is important for you to understand she won't be told what to do, or it sounds that way to me from what you told us here.. When she does the dangerous thing or whatever, you need to know how to handle that too. My daughter could do stuff with Mom that I couldn't do. Even strangers could, So I had my daughter and strangers help when I needed it. As much as they are grown ups, they are thinking more and more like a child. So you need to match that thought process. It is the little control she has left. And if I were you, I wouldn't tell her every day about the shoes. She doesn't remember that message, (short term is going, going gone,.) She is back fighting with her mother (you) long time ago. Hope you find a way that isn't so stressful for you. Wonder if you could wrap her feet or use socks that to big to put into her shoes? Mom use to give up if it were to hard to do. Hugs, Donna R Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other than mine. Re: Feedback please > > June, > > Thank you. > I have tried that, but will try again tonight. > She will actually wake up from sleep and she will > go crazy looking for them, one time i put them > high up inside her closet, she picked another pair > of > shoe and put those on to bed. > > Maggie > > > > --- June Christensen > wrote: > > > Have you tried taking them off after she is asleep > > and > > then putting them where she can't see them? If she > > asks for them, tell her you had to take them to > the > > repairman for repairs and see what happens. > > > > > > --- M Sumner wrote: > > > > > Thank you Courage, > > > > > > I will not give up. I am more worried about her > > > feet's health...If she might get infection > > > or something. > > > > > > Like i said in other e mails, the temperature > > > here has been over 100, these are not open > > > shoes, they are closed shoes, they must be > > > getting sweatty and all. > > > > > > Just don 't know what to do, i tried > > > changing her shoes to sandals and same thing > > > she will go OHHH NO and put them back. > > > > > > Strange. > > > > > > Maggie > > > --- gaat wrote: > > > > > > > HI Maggie, > > > > > > > > What a time you must be having. > > > > Would you mother wear those leisure suits - > > track > > > > pants and tops? Maybe if you brought in a set > > for > > > > her as a present and asked her to wear it you > > may > > > > slowly be able to replace her wearing her > > regular > > > > clothes with these - a lot more comfy I'm > sure. > > > > You've got me stumped on the shoes. > > > > Best of luck and please let us know how you > make > > > > out. > > > > Courage > > > > > > > > Feedback please > > > > > > > > > > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on > > her > > > > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > > > > clothes. > > > > > > > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas > > one > > > > day. > > > > But Nothing. > > > > > > > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > > > > thru > > > > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to > > > breath > > > > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > > > > off, > > > > i even take them off and she will put them > > back > > > > on. > > > > > > > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do > > it. > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > > > Maggie/So California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > > > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > > > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > > answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Donna, You are incredible. Everything you said is so true, she will just not take what she thinks of as orders and as you say, that is the little control she has left and she is going to keep it. Not until you said it, i could tell it does have correct a ring to it, like when she would rather wipe her wet hands on her blouse, rather than to take a clean paper towel from me. She had an angry look as if i am not going to listen or do what you want...type look. I have never gotten doctors e mail address but i will look into it. I am going to do as you say, get my daughter to give her some slippers maybe made of cotton then her feet could breathe and i won t have to worry, and possibly as you say coming from another person, she will even see it as a good idea and not resist. You always have your thinking cap on and maybe my frustration as you say had me going in circles and not getting very far with this problem. Thank you once again. You are great support to all of us in this group and i appreciate it very much Maggie --- Donna Mido wrote: > Maggie, > > Call the MD before you go and tell him what your > problem is or email him. Ask him for his support in > telling her not to wear shoes to bed. Or maybe that > she has to wear slippers to bed these days. > > Yes, there are going to be other things. I hear the > frustration in your email. I bet she hears it when > you talk to her. Each time that happens for her, > she is reminded she has a problem of dementia. I > think she doesn't hear the worry you have, I think > she hears that she is a problem! > > Get her some nice bedroom slippers that she can't > resist that you can give her as a gift that she will > like and can wear to bed. Lots of fuzzy and warm and > colorful. Maybe some of those animal ones. Trade > her! Shoes for slippers. If you make this play, it > might work. Get someone else to give her the > slippers. That might work even better. > > It is important for you to understand she won't be > told what to do, or it sounds that way to me from > what you told us here.. When she does the dangerous > thing or whatever, you need to know how to handle > that too. My daughter could do stuff with Mom that > I couldn't do. Even strangers could, So I had my > daughter and strangers help when I needed it. > > As much as they are grown ups, they are thinking > more and more like a child. So you need to match > that thought process. > It is the little control she has left. And if I > were you, I wouldn't tell her every day about the > shoes. She doesn't remember that message, (short > term is going, going gone,.) She is back fighting > with her mother (you) long time ago. > > Hope you find a way that isn't so stressful for you. > Wonder if you could wrap her feet or use socks that > to big to put into her shoes? Mom use to give up if > it were to hard to do. > > Hugs, > > Donna R > > > Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) > for 3 years and 4th year in a nh. > She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other > than mine. > > > Re: Feedback please > > > > June, > > > > Thank you. > > I have tried that, but will try again tonight. > > She will actually wake up from sleep and she will > > go crazy looking for them, one time i put them > > high up inside her closet, she picked another pair > > of > > shoe and put those on to bed. > > > > Maggie > > > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 , I thank you so much. For some reason, the way she behaves, is as if shoes gives her security feeling, but she did not have these issues a few months ago...It is just hard when the changes come and we are just not ready for them. Donna gave me some good tips and i tell you she hit it on the nose. About my mom wanting to keep a little control she has left, that rings so true. That i should get someone to get her some comfy slipper and not come from me, which just rings so true. She sees me as trying to order or control her and she is resisting that. If i can even get her some slippers in cotton her feet could breathe and i would not have to worry about an infection. As i mentioned, my worry is also what comes next what is she going to resist next, maybe while i am crossing a parking lot with her, she might refuse to hold my hand or to move from a fast moving car, just that her behavior was not like this and she is changing. Donna really is on the right track on everything she said. I thank you, Lin, Donna and all that came up with very good suggestions and i will keep you guys posted as to what ultimately helped. GOD BLESS Maggie --- Barrett wrote: > Maggie, > > I empathize with your frustrations. Maybe we just > pick the battles that we can win. If she wants to > wear her clothes and shoes , then let her. That will > just be one less thing you have to contend with. The > clothes and the shoes are not hurting her; they even > give her a sense of control. I know from the history > books that wearing your clothes was done in Europe > in previous centuries. > > My prayers are with you. You have great courage. > Don't let this clothing issue get you down. > > Hugs and good wishes. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Hi Doris, First of all thank you. As i was telling the group. It's as if shoes give her security of some kind. I did try hiding and her anger was terrible, she then put on another pair to bed. She would go OHH NO you are not going to do that to me and repeated OHH NO, and stuff that does not make sense to anyone. About paranoia, i don t think so, at least not at this time. What is your mom doing in this area? I was telling the group, what scares me even more than the shoes, is what will she resist next ? Will she refuse to hold my hand going over an obstacle on the side walk, or crossing the parking lot at a store, my worry is now about shoes causing her health problem, but it goes deeper that she could pull this in another form of some kind. I will try to stay in touch. I am not giving up So nice of you to write GOD BLESS Maggie --- DORIS KARATOPRAK wrote: > Hi Maggie, > > I was just wondering if she wears socks. If she > isn't wearing them in her shoes, might it be > possible to put socks on her feet and maybe she'll > let you take the shoes off? Also, because we are > going through the paranoia stage with my mom right > now, I'm wondering if she thinks that someone will > take her shoes or clothes if she doesn't wear them. > Does she suffer from paranoia? Also can you hide > her shoes or will that agitate her too much? > > Good Luck > > Doris in Canada > > > > Feedback please > > > > > > My mother has LBD and has refused to put on her > > Pajamas for 1 year now, sleeps in her regular > > clothes. > > > > I figured she might agree to put on Pajamas one > > day. > > But Nothing. > > > > Now she wants to sleep with shoes on, and i go > > thru > > this speech nightly. Mom your feet need to breath > > and your need to relax., let's take your shoes > > off, > > i even take them off and she will put them back > > on. > > > > Now it has been 2 months and she will not do it. > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Maggie/So California > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > http://tv.yahoo. com/collections/ 222 > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet > in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile. yahoo.com/ go?refer= 1GNXIC > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list & sid=396545469 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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