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I wouldnt think to many 1mth olds would know to hold there stool. Im thinking there is something else going on with your daughter due to how early especially this started. Now although my son has hirschsprungs I did notice defenet issues following each round of the DTaP and MMR vaccines. I would say he had a double wammy when it comes to his gi/constipation issues. Jennie<><

Subject: encopresisTo: miralax Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:16 PM

HI I just posted a message under Hirschprungs' s Disease. I have another question. My dr. keeps saying she has encopresis, the soiling in the underwear. Everything I read online says that this is a condition in "toilet trained" children. My daughter began this at the age 2 yrs. 9 months. I actually let her continue doing this for at least 1 1/2 months before I thought maybe she wanted to be potty trained and go poopy on the potty. It was for almost 4 months that I tried to potty train her with this condition, not knowing that all the while she was gettting backed up.So couldn't it be smoething else, besides normal constipation if she has been constipated since 1 month old and was leaking way before toilet training.Thanks,

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Thanks Jenni,

The dr. at first thought maybe hirschprungs because it did start so

early, but at this time I think he is forgetting that it did start

early and he is treating it like a bahavioral issue. My gut says no,

it's something else or something to do with food allergies. He told

me today that rarely do you see staining with Hirschprungs. At this

point aside from a good span for abouy 6 weeks in Dec., we have been

going around and around with increases in Glycolax, sometimes 2 caps

a day and enema clean outs at least once a month.

I lost it today after the dr. visit. My husband thinks that we have

had two professionals tell us it behavioural be that must be it.

Mother's instinct is telling me different.

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> Subject: encopresis

> To: miralax

> Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:16 PM

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> HI

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> I just posted a message under Hirschprungs' s Disease. I have

another

> question. My dr. keeps saying she has encopresis, the soiling in

the

> underwear. Everything I read online says that this is a condition

> in " toilet trained " children. My daughter began this at the age 2

yrs.

> 9 months. I actually let her continue doing this for at least 1 1/2

> months before I thought maybe she wanted to be potty trained and go

> poopy on the potty. It was for almost 4 months that I tried to

potty

> train her with this condition, not knowing that all the while she

was

> gettting backed up.

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> So couldn't it be smoething else, besides normal constipation if

she

> has been constipated since 1 month old and was leaking way before

> toilet training.

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> Thanks,

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Please trust your instincts on this. Find another gastro if needed if this one doesnt do more. I experienced similar thing in that my son is mentally impaired and was told on several occaissions that his gi issues are commen in mentally impaired and no other causes may be there, boy was they wrong. My gut instincts always new it was something else going on. Moms know there children the best. Push for further tests, it cant hurt but even be an answer. And if everything comes back good at least you can feel comforted that you did check. Also I wanted to let you know a colonoscopy well not diagnose HD unless they do the biopsies(my sons 1st biopsie showed nothing, the deeper ones did), but can help with many other diagnoses. My son kept requiring more and more miralax also(up to 3caps, which I did not do and discovered natural). Even those without HD etc well

eventually require more and more PEG also, this stuff is bad! Jennie<><

Subject: Re: encopresisTo: miralax Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:51 PM

Thanks Jenni,The dr. at first thought maybe hirschprungs because it did start so early, but at this time I think he is forgetting that it did start early and he is treating it like a bahavioral issue. My gut says no, it's something else or something to do with food allergies. He told me today that rarely do you see staining with Hirschprungs. At this point aside from a good span for abouy 6 weeks in Dec., we have been going around and around with increases in Glycolax, sometimes 2 caps a day and enema clean outs at least once a month.I lost it today after the dr. visit. My husband thinks that we have had two professionals tell us it behavioural be that must be it. Mother's instinct is telling me different.> > From: inserram <inserram@.. .>> Subject: encopresis> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:16 PM> > > > > > > HI > > I just posted a message under Hirschprungs' s Disease. I have another > question. My dr. keeps saying she has encopresis, the soiling in

the > underwear. Everything I read online says that this is a condition > in "toilet trained" children. My daughter began this at the age 2 yrs. > 9 months. I actually let her continue doing this for at least 1 1/2 > months before I thought maybe she wanted to be potty trained and go > poopy on the potty. It was for almost 4 months that I tried to potty > train her with this condition, not knowing that all the while she was > gettting backed up.> > So couldn't it be smoething else, besides normal constipation if she > has been constipated since 1 month old and was leaking way before > toilet training.> > Thanks,> >

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Wow, when I read the explosive BM comment, I thought that is her. We

say she literally blows it up, you can hear it from the other room.

Sometimes it will be gas, but sometimes it sounds like gas, but was a

BM. Now, when she had her good weeks there in Dec. , she did have

what Iw ould call a normal BM but also the explosives. Very

intereesting. The dr. wants to do a rectal biopsy, coloscopy and

endoscopy. I know the rectal is for the HIrschprungs.

Thanks it is great talking to you.

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> > From: inserram <inserram@ .>

> > Subject: encopresis

> > To: miralax@yahoogroups .com

> > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:16 PM

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> > HI

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> > I just posted a message under Hirschprungs' s Disease. I have

> another

> > question. My dr. keeps saying she has encopresis, the soiling in

> the

> > underwear. Everything I read online says that this is a condition

> > in " toilet trained " children. My daughter began this at the age 2

> yrs.

> > 9 months. I actually let her continue doing this for at least 1

1/2

> > months before I thought maybe she wanted to be potty trained and

go

> > poopy on the potty. It was for almost 4 months that I tried to

> potty

> > train her with this condition, not knowing that all the while she

> was

> > gettting backed up.

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> > So couldn't it be smoething else, besides normal constipation if

> she

> > has been constipated since 1 month old and was leaking way before

> > toilet training.

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> > Thanks,

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Others have already said it - I'll second, third, fourth it... follow

your heart & your instincts until you find an answer that sits right

with you and your child.

Hang in there!

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> > From: inserram <inserram@>

> > Subject: encopresis

> > To: miralax

> > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:16 PM

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> >

> > HI

> >

> > I just posted a message under Hirschprungs' s Disease. I have

> another

> > question. My dr. keeps saying she has encopresis, the soiling in

> the

> > underwear. Everything I read online says that this is a condition

> > in " toilet trained " children. My daughter began this at the age 2

> yrs.

> > 9 months. I actually let her continue doing this for at least 1 1/2

> > months before I thought maybe she wanted to be potty trained and go

> > poopy on the potty. It was for almost 4 months that I tried to

> potty

> > train her with this condition, not knowing that all the while she

> was

> > gettting backed up.

> >

> > So couldn't it be smoething else, besides normal constipation if

> she

> > has been constipated since 1 month old and was leaking way before

> > toilet training.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

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What have you tried so far? Besides constipation, what other signs

do you see? Dark circles under eyes, fatigue, developmental

delays, 'chicken skin' on backs of arms?

I'd start with Kid Calm -- it can't hurt.

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> > From: inserram <inserram@>

> > Subject: encopresis

> > To: miralax

> > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:16 PM

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> >

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> >

> > HI

> >

> > I just posted a message under Hirschprungs' s Disease. I have

> another

> > question. My dr. keeps saying she has encopresis, the soiling in

> the

> > underwear. Everything I read online says that this is a

condition

> > in " toilet trained " children. My daughter began this at the age

2

> yrs.

> > 9 months. I actually let her continue doing this for at least 1

1/2

> > months before I thought maybe she wanted to be potty trained and

go

> > poopy on the potty. It was for almost 4 months that I tried to

> potty

> > train her with this condition, not knowing that all the while

she

> was

> > gettting backed up.

> >

> > So couldn't it be smoething else, besides normal constipation if

> she

> > has been constipated since 1 month old and was leaking way

before

> > toilet training.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

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