Re: update/was frustrated/discouraged

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Hi Helen,

MMS is the most powerful pathogen killer known, it kills 95% of all known

pathogens and NO pathogen it kills can ever become immune to MMS... NO

antibiotic can say this!

Since you've had Lyme for 30 years, you can't expect any protocol to get you

well or into remission very quickly.. MMS specifically as you first start using

it at lower doses will first spend some time cleaning up all the pathogens in

your stomach.. Many of them live there in all of us and since Lymies typically

have low stomach acid, there is not much to kill them off.. Normal amounts of

stomach acid are the body's first defense against new pathogens, most Lymies

don't have this.

To help you better understand MMS as to how it works, first consider each drop

of MMS as a round of many bullets, how many bullets, I have no idea. Once you

take MMS, in the stomach it converts to a gas and every time a pathogen comes in

contact with a MMS molecule, this one bullet is then spent and will not kill

anything further.. As other pathogens come in contact with all the other

bullets, the pathogens are killed and the MMS is spent.. Since pathogens are

always coming into our bodies through food, water and air, we have a constant

new supply... But eventually MMS will clean up the stomach, then each MMS

molecule (bullet) is picked up by our red blood cells and is carried throughout

the body. But since you probably have a lot of pathogens in you that even

healthy folks have, plus add in Lyme and any coinfections, this MMS also gets

used up pretty quickly.. As time goes on and your MMS dose increases, you keep

killing further and further into the body, eventually MMS gets to all cells in

the body.. At some point when your Lyme pathogens are much lower, you start

feeling better.. Think of this as peeling back an onion... First you are working

on the outer layers of pathogens, getting deeper and deeper and peeling back

more layers..

This is a slow and long process, same with any good killing protocol and it is

the same for all of us! I can assure you anyone else sick with Lyme for many

years, like me, will not find any easier solution, we all have a big onion we

need to peel..

The important elements of any good treatment protocol are a good killing

protocol (you have this with MMS and your Doug Coil), a good detox plan, a good

diet, an exercise program of low or no aerobic exercise and a positive attitude.

Putting all of this together and making it work is not easy stuff, we really

have to work at this.. I know, I start doing things correctly, then find I have

slipped somewhat, so I have to reorganize my brain to get back on track...

So just keep doing good things and one day you will notice some small

improvements... These are what we aim for and they do add up over time... I

don't think many of us hit home runs, just base hits that really count!!

From time to time you are going to have things like your recent Doug Coil

session that don't go so well, you just need to readjust your thinking and lower

your session time.. We learn best from our mistakes.

You hang in there and stick with things others are having good successes with..

I feel the best protocol you can use you already have, the Doug Coil and MMS.

There is nothing wrong with feeling frustrated and a bit discouraged from time

to time, this happens to everyone... Once you find something that is working

well for you, it will make a great difference in how you feel..

Take care,

Jim

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> > Hello Hellen,

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> > What a work you have been doing ! Sorry to hear that your herx makes you

suffer. I wnet throught part of what you discribe .Especially piling up every

protocol one after an othe rone to kill the desease for good quickly well done .

And I ended up discouraged not knowing what to do anymore drown into herxing

wonderingif it was herxing, the desease , or the treatment that was rong and

what to do and not to do.  I learned that speed does not pay off in the lyme

desease . I learned the paradox : the slower we go to kill the faster we heal

.. That the only thing that we can pile up and push full power is the detox not

the killing . Looks like most of us go into the same mistake doing to much

going too fast until we learn it the hard way. Peacefull pace is good and we

need to discover it as we try . each time a killing treatment  works I

understand now that I need to decrease the time the frequence the quantity until

it is manageable and under

> > control and better to decrease it too much .

> > It be easyer for me to put it inside your message , so here ti is :

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> > Hi, It was a while I did not post. I have had brief period herx from taking

abx and salt/C. I then had terrible herx from taking mms/teasel. I belive it was

teasel overdose made me herx a big time. Then I went on two and half months

portocol MMS #1. I felt body sore all over. Then I have had an opportunity

visting Dr. Loyd. Four and half in his office to have him diagnosed through

complex computer assessment and muscle testing. My mold toxins was 8900(very

high), lyme 370 Bart. 300, heavy metals 430(high), Biofilm 12,000

(high).tapeworm 800. Contrasting to my friend, who also had him tested. He was

tested lyme 0 and mold toxin only 30 and biofilm 800. Does our lymies always

have high level of biofilms?

> > We are supposed to according to several LLMD

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> >    How can we burst biofilm?

> > I do it with ozone insufflation , some do it with serrapeptase and other

enzymes , some with MMS,

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> > Dr. Loyd said lyme was easy to take care if I could clear my mold toxin

> > For mold I ramped up very slowly over 3 month up to 20 drops of lugol iodine

a day with a few drops of DMSO in it and cholesteramine during the 2 main meals

, some take cholestepure, the ozone was doing an excellent job but still not

sufficient by itself , I am waiting for lufenuron I just ordered that looks

very good for killing fungus. other natural remedies did close to none with me

even pilling them up.

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> > and heavy metal pollution in my body.

> > I di dit a few years ago it look sendless to me I need to do it again but it

shaked me too much for now .Even with very little quantities and gentle

chelators like NDF +,

> >  I have since taken his foot detoxing bath,

> > it did not work for me but some say it works

> >  TCM Nano for bacteria, fungi etc. metal release for toxic metal and

minerals specially formated for my body needs for over two months. .

> > This one I did not do it

> >  He told me just taking 6 drop unactivated MMS in the water and drinking

throughout the day.

> > this one did not do a thing to me while  the activated MMS was very

effective

> >  I am not sure I am getting better. I still am suffering arthritic soreness

pain all over esp. my legs many spots I feel bruised like pain. I have streak

shape red hives appeared many part of my body every day. I need to take medicion

to quiet it down.

> > You do not sound like you are getting better at all  when I feel crappy or

very bad at a time I treat I know I went too fast to long too much

> >  Is that one of the Bart symptom?

> > I do not try to remmember wha tis what anymore as I take multipotent

protocols like MMS silver ozone

> >  I tried to detox through daily coffee enema, DE, clay, coconot oil, green

juice, NAC, whey protein.

> > all this helps a little bit for me so I kept what were doing good and were

easy low volume coffee aenema ,plus the agreable one the green

juice .Unfortunatly it is far to be sufficiant fo rme so I do extensive

colonic as i found out the colonics take me out of the wood as soon as I have

a slight trace of pain or crappy and I have a  colema at home it is no a too

big investament and gives me confort between two colonic  it helps me alot

also . I found out tha tit is after the all intestine is empty down to the lower

part of the ascendant colon that I began to have the benefit so I do the colema

the day before the colonic then th ecolonic is mor eeffective and eventually i

do an other colema the after and the brain herx is helped then . also ear

insufflation of ozone . Burbur 2 full dropper at a time as many time as need

clears also my brain herx a little bit (from nutramedics ) my brain herx are

:ringing in the hears blurred vision brain fog.

> > I put plenty of charcoal in my colema as oraly it gives constipation .The

insomnia stay a problem for me I uses melatonine from KAL losanges 5mg ,and 10mg

from life extension .the other label doe snot owrk for me I take several of

these .The depression is imporved with the colonics as well as my general well

being less crappy . i fi have a big deal of a depression I take gerovitla it

make sme feell really good and gives me energy i take it intramuscular but it

exost in pills it is a regenrative medecin no need of a prescription for the

pills .

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> > Lately I just got my coil machine started to coil. At the beginning only 5

seconds, no herx. after two weeks I worked up to 25 seconds. I coil lyme and

bart alternately. I had the same symtoms as I did on abx. I have headpain,

slight ring in my ear, chil, crying spill for no reason, pain got worse,sleeping

problem, tireness etc. I am wavering shall I continuing coil? Does coil do some

damage on my nerve?

> > Between 5 seonds and 25 seconds I see a good margin to play with .i have

been 7 month on 5seconds then mange to go to 6 seconds hardly bu tcouldmake it

after I had the yeast undercontrol , and recently I did a treatment that allowe

dme to progress of one secodn more i am at 7 sedonds now after one year of

coiling I cannot do better I am the owrse to this aspect on the forum but i had

been fightin against death for one year before so I come from far .

> >  I want to kill

> > but I really dont want to be sick like this. looks to be a good idea to

me our precious common sens helps us is nt it ?

> >   I am just getting back to MMS #1. I wish both MMS and coil can help me

get to the right track.   now I am not sure shall I drop the coil and let my

body rest and doing detox first? a little bit less of the two killing and a lot

more of detox: before during and after ? rincing the gut throught colonics and

colema is what save me eventually i do th ecolonic everyday like now ther eis a

big flair for me I do this . An dI preferes coming back to 5 sedonds for once

and detox abbondantly and next time I go back to where I was at .  

> > Any body has experience ringing in the ear after coiling?Burbur works good

for me

> > still frustrated/discuraged. You are not alone in this for sure

> > Am I too late to get well?

> > certainly not I was paralysed and dying I had it for the same time for the

pain DMSO is an easy fix for some I read applyed locally  neem , I tryed also

ozonated oil and neem it di dsomething  

> >  Helen 30 years lymie :-(

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> > Hoping you will find the right miniature efective rythme to progress quietly

remeber the advertisment for the comcast cable the turtle saying `` i feel

rushed `` i t has become my moto

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> > Kindly Marie

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