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I have to agree with . I had my first decompression in 1990. I

suffered 24/7 headaches for 9 years, guess what, they were diagnosed as

migraines. I was told I was cured from Chiari, they fixed for me. Everything

I could read about migraines told me they don't last for long periods of

time.

1990 was lonely. We didn't have the net but when we finally bought a

computer I started surfing. I asked for a second opinion and they told me to

see Dr. Milhorat. They also said that he wouldn't be able to do anything for

me because they did such a great decompression.

I really hate the word migraine. It gives me a headache when I hear it.

(clenching teeth)

When we did get the computer the first support group I joined was on

Migraines, they had me so convinced I didn't have Chiari anymore. If you

feel something isn't right, please ask for that second opinion and see an

expert.

Kathleen

Hi All

I don't want to start any turmoil, but I keep seeing the term MIGRAINE used

here and it just makes me cringe. I think it downplays and trivializes what

we as Chiarians actually live with and live through. For me, it is so

important to understand what is actually going on inside my head.

I go to a PCP group with one doc who is considered a " Headache Specialist. "

He keeps a big sign in his " special headache room " that lists the symptoms

of a migraine in its aura. I have to say, that everything on the list is

what I live with everyday (but I could add many more things to that list).

I went home one day after a frustrating visit to his office, and researched

migraines. The term MIGRAINE is use for headaches that HAVE NO OTHER KNOWN

CAUSE. It is a diagnosis of EXCLUSION.

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I'd like to continue just a bit as to why I object to this term so much.

Migraines are headaches....inflammation of the blood vessels inside your head.

Chiari is much more complicated.

I got a random email from a friend that was written by a mom in some far away

community that thinks the Gardysil vaccine caused her 12 year old (now 14)

daughter to develop POTS syndrome. She was warning other mom's to consider the

side effects of the vaccine. Something in her email really struck me.....the

girl has peripheral vision deficits, daily vomiting and constant fatigue, etc.

It has basically destroyed her young life. Anyway, this email mentioned many

other symptoms besides the POTS, so I wrote to the mom directly, suspecting or

at least thinking chiari should be checked for. Long story short, her daughter

has actually been told TWICE she has Chiari as per two MRI's, and yet this

mother has been told that chiari could NEVER cause cardiac symptoms. Chiari can

and does cause brain stem compression, which certainly can cause POTS, as many

of us personally know very well.

This mom happens to be personal friends with the Neurologist that has completely

dismissed Chiari as a diagnosis, telling her it could not cause the POTS or any

of her other NEURO symptoms.

The mother ended up angry at me, that I asked her to take her daughter to a

specialist. I had to settle for knowing that at least I put the question in her

mind and if her daughter gets worse, perhaps she will find a specialist to take

her to. She went all the way to Virginia from Pittsburgh for a cardiac

specialist, but will not see the Chiari doc right here at the hospital she works

in everyday.

Just my thoughts on why the term migraine can be so detrimental.

Many Blessings

in Pittsburgh

>

> I have to agree with . I had my first decompression in 1990. I

> suffered 24/7 headaches for 9 years, guess what, they were diagnosed as

> migraines. I was told I was cured from Chiari, they fixed for me. Everything

> I could read about migraines told me they don't last for long periods of

> time.

>

> 1990 was lonely. We didn't have the net but when we finally bought a

> computer I started surfing. I asked for a second opinion and they told me to

> see Dr. Milhorat. They also said that he wouldn't be able to do anything for

> me because they did such a great decompression.

>

> I really hate the word migraine. It gives me a headache when I hear it.

> (clenching teeth)

>

> When we did get the computer the first support group I joined was on

> Migraines, they had me so convinced I didn't have Chiari anymore. If you

> feel something isn't right, please ask for that second opinion and see an

> expert.

>

> Kathleen

>

> Hi All

>

> I don't want to start any turmoil, but I keep seeing the term MIGRAINE used

> here and it just makes me cringe. I think it downplays and trivializes what

> we as Chiarians actually live with and live through. For me, it is so

> important to understand what is actually going on inside my head.

>

> I go to a PCP group with one doc who is considered a " Headache Specialist. "

> He keeps a big sign in his " special headache room " that lists the symptoms

> of a migraine in its aura. I have to say, that everything on the list is

> what I live with everyday (but I could add many more things to that list).

>

> I went home one day after a frustrating visit to his office, and researched

> migraines. The term MIGRAINE is use for headaches that HAVE NO OTHER KNOWN

> CAUSE. It is a diagnosis of EXCLUSION.

>

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I started to chuckle to myself when i started to read the messages on

" migraines " . I was decompressed in 06 and before the decompression they kept

telling me they were migraines and i kept telling them ...NO, i have had a

migraine this isn't that. So after a year on migraine meds they did my

decompression. Since my decompression...for a short time my " head pain " , as i

choose to call it, was gone, filled with dizzy spells and other issues, now it's

all back. I went to my SSD hearing last week and they kept talking about my

" headaches " and i would answer " well Your Honor my head pain is.... " I told my

husband i really had an issue with the label head aches or migraines because i

knew as well as i know i am sitting here that my issues are not migraines. Now i

read these messages. Every time i have a problem or an issue that i think is all

mine and in my head it inevitable comes up on this site in a short time. I love

this group...i love knowing that if i am " nuts " there are at least 300,000 of us

(lol)

Have a wonderful and pain-free evening if at all possible

Robin

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Thought I would chime in on this topic....when I was in High School (39

now), I started having migraines.  They were attributed to artificial

sweeteners, by a very smart eye doctor at the time.  He was right...even

now, if I ingest that stuff, I will lose my vision, vomit, and have a God

awful headache, but one that is no way related to a Chiari headache.  I can

tell the difference from all sorts of headaches.  If I don't have coffee in

the morning, I get a tension headache.  I get another type of headache from

my TMJ problems, but just for the record....there is no headache like a

Chiari headache.  It is very easy for me to differentiate from that.  It is

always in the back of my skull, my ears feel like they are about to explode

at the same time, and it is painful,achy pressure....atleast that's how it

feels to me, I know everyone is different.

I went to this ridiculous neurologist who kept telling me that all of my

problems were migraine related.  He would not listen.  The fact that I know

what causes migraines in me (and for 23 years), and I will never get them

unless I ingest any of the artificial sweeteners, I feel like he should have

listened and taken me seriously.

Does anyone else get migranes from artificial sweeteners?   ~ Pam F.

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My insight too:

I get wicked migraines from artificial sweeteners like Pam - very sudden, major

painful, nauseating migraines. And I can't see either. I haven't had

sweeteners in years but unfortunately still get migraines.

I was diagnosed with " chronic migraines " by the pain management dr. here 2 years

ago. I do get migraine and ACM headaches and tension headaches and rebound

headaches and... you get the idea. I get all kinds!!!

The NS I saw locally said the ACM headaches qualify as a basilar migraine. My

ACM headaches aren't relieved by the Maxalt that helps my regular migraines.

And the ACMs last MUCH longer - days...

So maybe migraine is the right word, but we need to add " Basilar " to it?

Cassandra

Ontario Canada

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My insight too:

I get wicked migraines from artificial sweeteners like Pam - very sudden, major

painful, nauseating migraines. And I can't see either. I haven't had

sweeteners in years but unfortunately still get migraines.

I was diagnosed with " chronic migraines " by the pain management dr. here 2 years

ago. I do get migraine and ACM headaches and tension headaches and rebound

headaches and... you get the idea. I get all kinds!!!

The NS I saw locally said the ACM headaches qualify as a basilar migraine. My

ACM headaches aren't relieved by the Maxalt that helps my regular migraines.

And the ACMs last MUCH longer - days...

So maybe migraine is the right word, but we need to add " Basilar " to it?

Cassandra

Ontario Canada

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