Introduction

[Guest guest]

Sheila, I'm so glad your depression is lifting. Even for us who aren't

chronically depressed, diagnosis of diabetes is hard to accept. I'm a very

upbeat person but it took me a while to accept that I was diabetic and this

was a permanent part of my life from now on. There was no diabetes in my

family and I had no symptoms (it was discovered on a routine exam) I'm now

almost three years out from diagnosis and feeling pretty darned good about

myself and my ability to handle this " 800 pound gorilla, " as Susie so aptly

puts it. And yes, this list was a real lifesaver. Take care. Vicki

In a message dated 00-10-24 17:23:13 EDT, you write:

<<

My depression is lifting. It was a combination of wanting to not accept

that I really am a diabetic, combined with my dog's death, my mother's

dementia, and some other family problems. Today, I think I have reached

a place of acceptance about my diabetes. That has resulted in me

finding a level of hope for the future. I think being on this list is a

big reason. All of the good information, and suggestions. I have also

gotten into action, about taking better care of myself, and that has

helped, too.

>>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Barbara! We hope we're able to support you as you get through this

plateau. One of the things I know about myself is that I get in an eating rut,

making the same choices everyday, and when I switch around my

proteins/carbs/fiber/fat etc, I get out of a rut.

Introduction

Hi all my name is Barbara. I'm 56 year young, I joined WW123 in April 1999 I

have given away 80 pounds so far. I have hit a big plateau have been on this

one for 6 months now. Have tryed less points, more points same with the

exercise. even my leader is going nuts about it.

Up 3 pounds down 1 I hope this yo-yo stopes soon. I will keep it up I like the

way I can do things now and love the fact life is better for me and my husband.

I hope to be able to help and learn from all of you.

Have a good day

Barbara

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara, sorry you are having such a long plateau!! Yikes!! At least you

are learning to maintain, but you probably feel like hitting me over the head

now :-). Maybe they should send your problem to headquarters - get the minds up

there working on it!

[Guest guest]

No, I was replying to the one who wanted to know how to figure the 10% goal,

not the one who said she had 7 more pounds to go. LOL, now I am confused.

Obviously I got lost somewhere. Sorry!

Shanda

>

>Reply-To: Serious-Weight-Watchers

>To: Serious-Weight-Watchers

>Subject: RE: Introduction

>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:28:36

>

>

>Shanda,

>

>I think she has seven more pounds to go--not seven total!

>

>I think.

>

>jana

>apex, nc

> >

> >You have to take 10% of your starting weight, so if you started at 200

>lbs,

> >you have to lose 20 lbs to hit your 10% mark.

> >

> >Shanda

> >

> >

> > >

> > >Reply-To: Serious-Weight-Watchers

> > >To: <Serious-Weight-Watchers >

> > >Subject: RE: Introduction

> > >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:07:04 -0700

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >I’m confused. How is the 10% calculated? Here we calculate 10% of our

> > >starting weight, and make that our first goal. So, is that 10% 7 lbs

>of

> >70

> > >you want to lose?(Maybe we do it different).

> > >

> > >N.

> > >

> > >

> > >I find the goal weight completely overwhelming, but I'm

> > >getting close to my 10% (only 7 lbs!) and I have a pair of Eddie Bauer

> > >jeans in my closet that I wore twice during a short period of anxiety

> > >induced weight loss a couple of years ago that I'm hoping to get into

>by

> > >early March.

> > >

> > >So glad to be here with you all!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

<<<My only problem so far has been lunch. I've been doing Smart Ones

so far, but I'd prefer a sandwich (although they are, so far, delicious). I

have regular bread, though, and am not keen on spending 4 points just on the

bread. I have, I figure, about 90 pounds to lose.>>>

Howdy, Tory! I wanted to tell you about my lunch yesterday to give you an idea

for something besides the Smart Ones. I had a sandwich with 2 pieces of ham

(extra lean lunch meat, can't remember the name because I put it in tupperware

after opening the packet, but it's 1 point for 3 pieces), 2 pieces of lightly

toasted Wonder light wheat (2 pieces = 1 point), fat-free Kraft mayo (0 points),

a touch of mustard (0 points), 1 slice of Heart Beat Cheese (1 point) and some

raw spinach on the sandwich (I prefer it to iceberg lettuce and it's 0 points).

I had 15 Pringles Right Crisps (3 points, I haven't gone to the fat-free yet,

which are only 1 point). I drank lemonade made with Splenda. Total VERY

filling lunch was 6 points. The lunch meat I buy also has turkey, if you would

rather have it than ham. Also, if you haven't bought the light bread, try

making a salad with the sandwich fixings like subway does. The Wishbone 2 Good

(I think that's the name) salad dressing is really good and they have lots of

flavours to choose from.

Cecelia

[Guest guest]

Welcome Tory, you've got an excellant attitude although your family sounds very

insecure in themselves or judgemental of others for sure.....I am glad you've

removed yourself from that negativity~!! Glad you found us. I too am on the WW

online...so far so good.....my husband doesn't need to really lose much either

but he and I have embarked on an excercise program together....Power 90....it

was an infomercial he seen on TV one late nite when he couldn't sleep....so far

so good...anyway..this was a welcome to you not a long story about myself!! ;-)

So Welcome!!

Carla

If your interested in what I'm selling at auction check here!!

http://www.auctiva.com/showcase/as_4sale.asp?uid=n

RE: Introduction

Hi! My name is Tory and I'm brand new to the list. I've been on WW three

whole days! Woohoo! So far no problems at all. I find it a very intuitive

program. My only problem so far has been lunch. I've been doing Smart Ones

so far, but I'd prefer a sandwich (although they are, so far, delicious). I

have regular bread, though, and am not keen on spending 4 points just on the

bread. I have, I figure, about 90 pounds to lose.

Other things about me...I'm a teacher. I teach high school Network

Administration and A+ Computer Tech programs. I also am an adviser to two

really active clubs: Future Business Leaders of America and Future

Information Technology Professionals. I'm married to a teacher...have lots

and lots of pets, but no kids.

I am ready to go for this pretty seriously. I think I'm a beautiful person

as I am, and I do feel good about myself...but now I want to make sure I

don't end up with health problems and I just plain want to look good....not

good for my size, or " Oh but you have such a pretty face " , or " pretty good

for a fat girl " but just plain good. I'm the heaviest person in my family of

skinny people (except my Mom who maintains about a size 12-14 by indulging

on a high protien high fat diet that will surely kill her). My sisters and

brother are all very small, and very cute...and very judgmental of people

who aren't. You know how it is, no one ever says anything TO me (except my

brother, who I promptly told to mind his own business) but around me. " Wow,

look at how FAT she is " (they say about the little size 10 that just walked

by)...or " Come on, waddle across the street tubbo! " (about the size 14 who

crosses in front of them in a crosswalk) and, as you can imagine, it makes

me feel JUST GREAT! That might be why I don't live near any of them, as much

as I love them all. Actually, the only time my weight ever REALLY bothers me

is when I spend time with them.

But, I'm not doing it for them...this is all about me. ME ME ME! Hahaha!

I've spent years improving my mind (just finished my Masters degree,

constantly working on technology professional certifications) and now I just

want to take a year out to establish a healthy diet and concentrate on my

body. I'm going to just flat out be selfish.

My husband, who loves me the way I am and has NEVER made me feel anything

less than sexy and beautiful, is embarking on this journey with me. He's got

about as much to lose as I do. Of course he'll lose faster...darn those men,

they always do. We're supporting each other, though, which is a great thing.

Oh, I'm not doing meetings...I'm doing the online program. I decided that Id

try that for now and if I felt like I needed more support I would join a

meeting.

So that's me! Glad to be here!

[Guest guest]

Welcome,Sharon!

Glad to have you on board. I am Feisty , one of the co-owners of this group. I have hashimotos among other things. I dont know much about your situation with fertility, but am sure that we will have some good responses soon,as this group is very good at support and answering questions, etc.

Make yourself at home, and vent, rejoice, gab, etc.

Hugs,

Feisty

Webb Osterlohgroup co-owner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/ATP Board Member,Thyroid Patient Advocate

Introduction

Hello all!I was just diagnosed with a sluggish thyroid after years of being told that there was nothing wrong with my hormones. I am currently dealing with trying to lose weight (now that I am on Synthroid and my TSH has gone from 5.7 to 1.5) and conceiving a child.Here's a question for those on this list who are/were trying to conceive and found that a sluggish thyroid was interfering.It's been a little over a month since I started taking Synthroid, and I have found that the fertile-quality cervical mucus I produce has increased dramatically. I hardly ever got any prior to my taking the medicine. Since fertile-quality cervical mucus is important when trying to conceive, I was wondering if any TTCers on this list had found that correcting the thyroid resulted in their own production of more and better cervical mucus. Thanks a lot,Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hi

Welcome to the group! I think its the best thing you could do to join us.. you

will soon see that what Cyn experiences all the time is suffered by all of us,

and that she just can't help what she is going through.

You admit to not always having been there for her as you would now like to have

been... well you did pull her back out of the tornado! It would be easy to have

lost her if you hadn't cared:)

We look forward to having you on board!

Penny UK

Introduction

Howdy, all! My name is Merritt and I am Cyn's husband.

I came here to learn more about fibromyalgia and how I can better support

my wife. It's frustrating that I cannot fix this for her. Believe me, I

would if I could. Alas, I cannot, so the best I can think of to do is

learn about this disease and how I can best take care of her. It's been

difficult for me to adjust, to realize what the fibro is doing to her and I

need to do a lot of improving in that department. When she fell down the

other night, I was alarmed. I'm not used to seeing her weakened like this

and it concerns me greatly. Fibro is just as scary to me as the tornado

that nearly pulled Cyn out the door the other night. I am so grateful I

was close enough to grab her!

I know I've not been the best husband or friend at times and need to

improve and understand just what fibromyalgia does to someone. Any

recommendations you can make in this regard will be most welcome.

Merritt

1. While it is wonderful to share our experiences with everyone on the list as

to what treatments do and don't work for us, pls always check with your dr.

Some treatments are dangerous when given along with other meds as well as to

certain health conditions or just dangerous in general.

2. If you are in a difficult situation (doesn't matter what it is) pls don't

be afraid to ask for help. It is the first step to trying to make that

situation better.

Have a nice day everyone.

[Guest guest]

hi,..i think this is such a wondeful idea...what a great way to find

out more about this horrible condition...it is nice to meet you....(((Hugs))))

carmen

[Guest guest]

>

Hi, I too have thyroid trouble(hypo). It really makes you feel

BAD. It did me everyway possible. Doc uped my dose of levoxyl. I

feel great now.

Welcome, Amy

> and found out some of my fatigue wasn't entirely my own lazy fault

but due

> to not having enough thyroid hormone, and some other stuff. Now

that my

> thyroid is back to snuff, I want to start pushing myself just a

little at a

> time. I do exercise about 6 days a week, and can really tell if I

don't. I

> just feel tons better when I do. Exercise is God's Medicine, I do

believe.

>

> Charlotte

>

> Oh, I forgot...intro: 40ish, stay at home wife with delusions of

fitness, 1 husband, 9 cats, 1 dog, bunch of chickens, bunch of

ducks, 4 geese and 2 guineas on 5 acres of land in Arkansas.

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome back Charlotte

Glad you got to the bottome of the issues !!!!

I was a member of this group about a year or so back. I really missed Ya'll while I was gone.

-- Be a F.R.O.G . °Ü°GLYSDI,Gymmie in Texas

Compliments of Tae Bo2 Hours A Day5 Days A Week " You can exercise til the cows come home, but if you don't eat right, you'll just be a cow coming home. " Anonymous

[Guest guest]

I remember you, my froggie friend.

Charlotte

"Some people regard discipline as a chore. For me, it is a kind of order that sets me free to fly." ~ s

-- Re: introduction

Welcome back Charlotte

Glad you got to the bottome of the issues !!!!

I was a member of this group about a year or so back. I really missed Ya'll while I was gone.

-- Be a F.R.O.G . °Ü°GLYSDI,Gymmie in TexasCompliments of Tae Bo2 Hours A Day5 Days A Week"You can exercise til the cows come home, but if you don't eat right, you'll just be a cow coming home."Anonymous

Letter by MissCath

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[Guest guest]

,

I'm also new, 54 yo. I find your symptoms from Prometrium

interesting, since I suspect some recent scary symptoms I had that I

was attributing to my thyroid going hyper due to Hashimoto's, were in

fact due to the 100mg/day of progesterone cream my doc told me to use.

She gave me E cream, but according to people here, it was a low dose

and they also said the P was pretty high.

I also had palpitations, pounding heart at night, horrid anxiety,

scared to go on trips, worried about everything, sleeplessness, and

worst of all, a sudden increase in blood pressure. I'm terrified of

trying it again, even in small doses, but I know I need to get these

hormones balanced so my family can stand to be around me again :-)

Sounds like you are doing well on your current regimen.

-- In rhythmicliving , " menomama " wrote:

>

> Hello My name is ,

>

> I have been posting for awhile but have never formally introduced

> myself and shared my story.

>

> I am 59 years old and recently went through menopause (very late).

> I just stopped my periods two years ago this Christmas and had a

> terrible hormonal crash last Christmas. I really fell apart.

>

> Thank the Lord, I had already seen a naturopath, MD Dr.

> Nusbaum, a colleague of Dr. Brownstein, and he had prescribed tri-

> est and Prometrium. I had a violent reaction to Prometrium, and

> being new to hormones, I didn't know if it was the estrogen or P

> that was causing the difficulties.

>

> Prior to taking hormones I was getting really depressed, lost a lot

> of weight, lost bone mass, etc. and just felt terrible and was

> withdrawing from everyone. I have never been a depressed person and

> am a counselor myself, MSW, so this was all new.

>

> Since then I discovered PS message board and began reading and

> learning. Then I was directed here and to Dr. Gillespie. I also

> began reading books, such as Uzzi Reiss Dr. Vilet, etc.

>

> It has been an amazing year but I am now fairly stabelized on

> Oestrogel 1 stick daily and trying to cycle progesterone. I had a

> vaginal ultrasound and my endo. stripe is too think so I'll be

> seeing my ObGyn in a couple of weeks to decide what to do. Probably

> a D & C, then try to discover what progestin I can take.

>

> Prometrium gives me heart palps, insomnia, horrible depression,

> etc. When I tried it, it was only 100 mg. but my E was only 13, so

> perhaps it would be more tolerable with higher levels of E, as I

> have now.

>

> I have two beautiful grandchildren and have been married to the same

> man for 35 years.

>

> Well that's about it for my introduction. Thanks to all of you and

> I look forward to continuing to share our journeys with one another.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you.

Re: introduction

To all those new to the Wiley Protocol: I wish there had been a rhythmicliving group when I first read the book.

Lynne

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Rena! Welcome to our group where you'll find a lot of support, love,

information, and real friends. It's heartbreaking to think that your mom has

been diagnosed at 66; there are others in this group whose LO have been that

young or younger. I'm not into much letter-writing these days, but keep in touch

with all of us and tell us how you are doing.

A welcoming hug,

Raquel

[Guest guest]

Rena,

Welcome to a group no one wants to belong to and yet it is so important to your

support.

The Health care system does suck! Unfortunately it is the best we have. It is

this disease that really sucks. And you would be surprised how much better we

are doing than when I went to get my Mom in '98. They couldn't even tell the

difference between Alzheimers and LBD at that point.

Nursing H's don't do the job we try and do at home. They make an effort to take

care of them but it mostly isn't the same unless you happen to find one of the

many places that are just exceptional.

MD's are still fighting with us and we know a lot from taking care of our LO's

for years. We know the meds are a problem. And we know that any one LBD

patient won't do the same as the next one with a med.

will be sending you a list with lots to read. It may help you find

your way through this.

Glad you are here. Ask away and someone will most likely have an answer.

Hugs,

Donna R

Caregave for Mom (after I brought her from WI to MI) for 3 years and 4th year in

a nh.

She was almost 89 when she died in '02. No dx other than mine.

Introduction

To the Caregivers;

My name is Rena, I care for my moms who recently was diagnosed with

lewy. Still looking for the right combination of meds that will help

her. We are getting there. Ma is 66, and I am 44.

I wonder if there is a anyone out there that thinks that the

healthcare system for the elderly sucks? And if there is anything that

I/We can do to change it? I think it is time to make the nation know

about what is happening to them. I live in New York and I am not happy

at all with the care that she is recieving in the nh. And I am afraid

that most of them are the same, I have visited 15 in my area and there

are so many more. I cannot take care of her the way that I want to and

the system is shackling me as well.

Anyway, I did not want this to be a long story. My heart goes out to

each and everyone of you. And thank you for reading

Rena

[Guest guest]

,

Yes, bronc is COPD. I was on Advair for a long time and continued to cough, cough, cough. Finally almost three years ago after 20 some years of coughing was diagnosed with bronch and emphysema. Was then given Spireva, an inhaled medication in a capsule. I believe it has totally cured the cough. I am 72 and now have some other (peripheral neuropathy) problems, so thank goodness I don't have the constant infections and cough too. I still get sinus infections from time to time.

Find a GOOD pulmonologist and insist on good care.

Best wishes,

MarilynMake your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yes, bunnies and cords sometimes don't mix well. Our last rescue bun, who lived to be 13 1/2 just loved to seek out and chomp electric cords of all kinds. On the HRS web site (and in the House Rabbit Handbook) I read about buying slit tubing to encase the accessible portion of cords in rooms in which we let Poppy roam. Eventually, he lost interest and it became much less of a problem. Our current resident lagomorph, Zinnie, isn't as interested in cords. Before we put in laminate flooring and got area rugs, Poppy would sometimes dig furiously and pull tufts out in his favorite places. I assume your bunny friends have been neutered and spayed? It makes a whale of a difference in their livability with humans inside a house. Just like with dogs and cats, they're a whole different animal when hormonal influences don't drive negative behaviors.

Our feral kitten, now a teenager, was so tiny when we found her that Zinnie easily established dominance as the top banana. Smokey still chases Zin and paws at her gently (with claws retracted) in her kitten-play, but Z growls at her (yes, an angry bunny can growl) and boxes her away, sometimes even chasing the kitten around the living room if she's really irritated with the impudent feline. Middle age rabbits can have serious attitude and command respect from cats and dogs they live with.

I belong to the Sacramento chapter of the national HRS. They are wonderful people and lots of fun. They have foster homes for abandoned and abused rabbits who are up for adoption. They also help the local animal shelters out with housing and placement when they have space.

We live in Vacaville, so we are close by. My internist referred me to the UC Pulmonary Clinic in Sacramento and they were first rate. Both the teaching professors and the pulmonary residents were incredibly thorough, knowledgeable, and compassionate. However, many of the things I've learned and used to help my lungs have been found on-line, both at this support group and in my own research of various university and other web sites. The doctors didn't suggest percussion, (I learned it from info for CF patients on-line), but perhaps that was because I told them on intake that I was using it. Which clinic and doctor do you go to?

Another thing I've found helpful is to lay on the couch with my right shoulder hanging off and my right arm/hand under my neck for support. I do this to rinse out my sinuses with salt water when I have a cold and discovered accidentally that it gets whatever's in my lungs moving upward very well! Not too great when your nose is full of salt water... gag, choke, sputter, water all over oneself :-). Now I try to clear out whatever wants to come up before I do the salt water "rinse and hold". Of course it's not as good as the percussion, but will get me through the day till the nightly percussion if I'm having trouble.

Best of luck to you and your animal family.

Kay

Re: Introduction

Kay, We did keep the rabbits indoors for a while. But it was a losing battle trying to keep every last cord out of their reach. And the female was a terror with carpeting, obsessed with tearing out the tufts. It was her relentless mission. Plus the two feral-born cats had a more than friendly interest in them. Now we let the buns run free in the backyard. They have plenty of hiding places, including a spacious enclosure we built for them in the corner. They've dug burrows. They seem quite happy. They make gardening quite a challenge!I don't do chest percussion. My doctor didn't mention it. I've been coughing less lately. I'm not sure if its Advair or that the acapella device brought so much up the first few days that there's less infection now. I suspect that's the reason. I coughed up record amounts the day after I started using it. And I still don't know what the bug is that might be in me. I'll have to wait until February for the results of the AFB smear. Nothing has grown so far but they're going to give it a few more weeks. I'm told that if something does start growing it will be sent elsewhere for identification and that process takes a few weeks too. We might be neighbors. I live in , CA. Is that close to you?

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Hi , I'm 61, live in Northern California, am married, have three daughters and six grandkids so far, a rescued abused rabbit, and a feral kitten who showed up in our side yard last June. I hope you're doing OK with your lungs now. Do you do chest percussion daily? It consists of pounding on the front, sides, and back of one's chest while laying in an inverted position with the head lower than the rest of one's body. Having someone to help do it is the best way, but I do a modified version when I'm alone. It really helps me keep fluid from building up in my lungs. Keeping my acid reflux under control is key for me, too, and exercising. I've had trouble for two years now, but I believe it got a start six years ago when I developed severe atypical (in my throat instead of the typical mid-chest pain) acid reflux. Rabbits make wonderful companions. Ours have been lots of fun and are very affectionate. I didn't know they could use litter boxes and live in the house till I joined the House Rabbit Society. Have you heard of the House Rabbit Society? It's a wonderful group of folks who have rabbits as house pets. The web site is www.rabbit.org . You'll find everything you ever wanted to know about rabbits, fabulous adorable photographs of adoptable bunnies, and meet other people who love rabbits, too. I've belonged to HRS for many years and have made many rabbit-loving friends on-line. There are many local chapters and a quarterly newsletter. Best of luck to you, Kay

[Guest guest]

I've come to think of those who write on this site as friends, so it seems natural to share more of life than just lung health issues. Networking can have such beneficial effects on so many of life's more trying issues, not to mention adding a little fun and learning for all of us. For myself, I've spent my life advocating for and rescuing animals of all stripes, and I know others of you have knowledge of many helpful and interesting pursuits we could benefit from if a question or need arises. I'm sorry if anyone was offended.

Kay

Re: IntroductionTo: "bronchiectasis" <bronchiectasis >Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 4:30 PM

Kay, My bunnies are neutered. It didn't stop the males from trying to kill each other, even when there were no females around. One has an ear partially torn off. The other's eyelid is slightly mangled. I thought that maybe if I bought several females - more than enough for two males - they wouldn't fight, but my vetrinarian neighbor said they would just have more to fight about. Plus the females would fight each other. I tried to explain to the males that the one female we brought in, Lucy, was neutered and they would never get any, but they remained unconvinced. But now at 9 yrs old, their testosterone levels must have dropped. They snuggle constantly. I have the House Rabbit book too. There's something I've always wondered. They can tell at an instant from a distance the gender of another rabbit. How do they do it?

yes, an angry bunny can growlI haven't seen rabbits growl but I have seen them lurch toward a cat that was displaying too much interest in them. It seems to work. Two of our cats were feral born too.

Which clinic and doctor do you go to?

I see Dr Seth at Woodland Clinic. He was voted one of the best doctors in Yolo County. I can see why. He spent an entire hour with me on my first visit. At one point he said "Tell me the story of your lungs. Start from the beginning." He's wonderfully caring. He always calls me back on the day I leave a message for him. Most doctors seem to prefer to wait several days first. I wouldn't be allowed to see a UC doc without an exceptional reason. Now that the Woodland clinic has a pulmonary specialist, I don't know what that reason would be.

Another thing I've found helpful is to lay on the couch with my right shoulder hanging off and my right arm/hand under my neck for support. I do this to rinse out my sinuses with salt water when I have a cold and discovered accidentally that it gets whatever's in my lungs moving upward very well! Not too great when your nose is full of salt water... gag, choke, sputter, water all over oneself :-). Now I try to clear out whatever wants to come up before I do the salt water "rinse and hold". Of course it's not as good as the percussion, but will get me through the day till the nightly percussion if I'm having trouble. Wow. Do you have a pan on the floor when you do this? What made you think of this technique?

[Guest guest]

Hi , sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. With bunnies it's best to pair neutered buns of opposite sexes unless you adopt an already bonded same-sex pair. I'm so sorry your guys tried to destroy one another. The vet is right. For some reason rabbits are very particular about whom they live with. They form close bonds with a friend, generally, but eschew others for reasons only they know. Close supervision is essential at first. Again, through www.rabbit.org the HRS has excellent info on exactly how to go about rabbit introductions.

It also can take quite a while for the hormonal effects to be eliminated from the rabbit's behaviors, too... months perhaps.

I hope you'll consider adoption for future bunnies. There are buns waiting in almost every local animal shelter, the national HRS shelter in Richmond has many, and the Sacramento HRS chapter has wonderful rabbits in foster homes waiting for forever homes, too. You can see the adorable waiting bunnies on-line at the national web site or Sac chapter's site, www.allearssac.org

My awesome vet lives in : Dr.Corey at Animal Care Center in Vacaville.

I'm excited to hear of your great pulmonologist in Woodland. Thanks so much for including his name and location. We have private health insurance (no job to subsidize it) and just changed to a Health Savings Account. The costs are breaking us, with the construction industry practically at a standstill right now. It has a huge deductible, but will likely cost no more than our previous outrageous premiums at Western Health Advantage, in the long run, plus it works like an IRA and if we don't need the savings for medical care we can use it, tax-free when we reach 65 or older. Since it's with Blue Cross and is a PPO, we can go to any dr who accepts Blue Cross, and almost all of them around here do. Which means that I could go to your Dr. if he takes BC. Very cool. My referral to the UC pulm clinic was limited to evaluation and treatment recommendations. We've been with Solano Regional Medical Foundation in VV for many years and love our internist. WHA was dropping SRMF physicians in January and we didn't want to lose our primary care doc, thus the insurance change.

Not to be gross, but I just swallow what comes up because it's usually small amounts of thin clear mucus unless I'm sick. The darned stuff just won't come up on it's own so I have to clear my lungs every day, sometimes more than once so my chest doesn't hurt.

So glad to "meet" you and get to talk on-line!

Kay

Re: Introduction

Kay, My bunnies are neutered. It didn't stop the males from trying to kill each other, even when there were no females around. One has an ear partially torn off. The other's eyelid is slightly mangled. I thought that maybe if I bought several females - more than enough for two males - they wouldn't fight, but my vetrinarian neighbor said they would just have more to fight about. Plus the females would fight each other. I tried to explain to the males that the one female we brought in, Lucy, was neutered and they would never get any, but they remained unconvinced. But now at 9 yrs old, their testosterone levels must have dropped. They snuggle constantly. I have the House Rabbit book too. There's something I've always wondered. They can tell at an instant from a distance the gender of another rabbit. How do they do it?

yes, an angry bunny can growlI haven't seen rabbits growl but I have seen them lurch toward a cat that was displaying too much interest in them. It seems to work. Two of our cats were feral born too.

Which clinic and doctor do you go to?

I see Dr Seth at Woodland Clinic. He was voted one of the best doctors in Yolo County. I can see why. He spent an entire hour with me on my first visit. At one point he said "Tell me the story of your lungs. Start from the beginning." He's wonderfully caring. He always calls me back on the day I leave a message for him. Most doctors seem to prefer to wait several days first. I wouldn't be allowed to see a UC doc without an exceptional reason. Now that the Woodland clinic has a pulmonary specialist, I don't know what that reason would be.

Another thing I've found helpful is to lay on the couch with my right shoulder hanging off and my right arm/hand under my neck for support. I do this to rinse out my sinuses with salt water when I have a cold and discovered accidentally that it gets whatever's in my lungs moving upward very well! Not too great when your nose is full of salt water... gag, choke, sputter, water all over oneself :-). Now I try to clear out whatever wants to come up before I do the salt water "rinse and hold". Of course it's not as good as the percussion, but will get me through the day till the nightly percussion if I'm having trouble. Wow. Do you have a pan on the floor when you do this? What made you think of this technique?

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here here...thats what we all agreed on in the beginning that we could talk about anything even rabbits. who damn well cares cos i certainly dont.geez this disease is bad enough without having to talk about it all the time. lighten up

cheers Lee

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> Subject: Re: Introduction

> To: " bronchiectasis " <bronchiectasis >

> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 4:30 PM

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> Hi everyone - I don't post very often but do read the postings when

forwarded to my mail box. I find them intersting and informative and

often uplifting expecially when I'm not feeling well as I am now. (I

have a very bad infx caught on the plane on the way to my sunny post

christmas holiday!)

Personally I don't have a problem with some posts that are not solely

relating to our condition - as others have said we do have a life

outside bronch and hearing some entertaining and interesting things

about others can only cheer us up.

Keep well and smiling everyone.

Liz

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> Kay,  My bunnies are neutered.  It didn't stop the males from

trying to kill each other, even when there were no females around. 

One has an ear partially torn off.  The other's eyelid is slightly

mangled.  I thought that maybe if I bought several females - more

than enough for two males - they wouldn't fight, but my vetrinarian

neighbor said they would just have more to fight about.  Plus the

females would fight each other.  I tried to explain to the males that

the one female we brought in, Lucy, was neutered and they would never

get any, but they remained unconvinced.  But now at 9 yrs old, their

testosterone levels must have dropped.  They snuggle constantly.  I

have the House Rabbit book too.

>

> There's something I've always wondered.  They can tell at an

instant from a distance the gender of another rabbit. How do they do

it? 

>

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> yes, an angry bunny can growl

>

> I haven't seen rabbits growl but I have seen them lurch toward a

cat that was displaying too much interest in them. It seems to work. 

>

> Two of our cats were feral born too.

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>

> Which clinic and doctor do you go to?

>

> I see Dr Seth at Woodland Clinic.  He was voted one of the

best doctors in Yolo County.  I can see why.  He spent an entire hour

with me on my first visit.  At one point he said " Tell me the story

of your lungs.  Start from the beginning. "   He's wonderfully caring. 

He always calls me back on the day I leave a message for him.  Most

doctors seem to prefer to wait several days first.  I wouldn't be

allowed to see a UC doc without an exceptional reason.  Now

that the Woodland clinic has a pulmonary specialist, I don't know

what that reason would be.  

>

>

> Another thing I've found helpful is to lay on the couch with my

right shoulder hanging off and my right arm/hand under my neck for

support.  I do this to rinse out my sinuses with salt water when I

have a cold and discovered accidentally that it gets whatever's in

my lungs moving upward very well!  Not too great when your nose

is full of salt water... gag, choke, sputter, water all

over oneself :-).  Now I try to clear out whatever wants to come up

before I do the salt water " rinse and hold " .  Of course it's not as

good as the percussion, but will get me through the day till the

nightly percussion if I'm having trouble. 

>

> Wow.  Do you have a pan on the floor when you do this?  What made

you think of this technique?

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Thanks Liz, I'm sorry you have a bad infection. I'm trying to get residual stuff out of my lungs from a cold I caught from some of my grandkids on our snow trip at New Year's. I had told myself I was just going to enjoy all six of the little ones and hug and kiss them to my hearts content, rather than trying to avoid close contact with the ones who were sniffling... sigh. Not fair!! Hope you're on the way to healing.

Kay Re: Introduction> To: "bronchiectasis" <bronchiectasis >> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 4:30 PM> > > > Hi everyone - I don't post very often but do read the postings when forwarded to my mail box. I find them intersting and informative and often uplifting expecially when I'm not feeling well as I am now. (I have a very bad infx caught on the plane on the way to my sunny post christmas holiday!)Personally I don't have a problem with some posts that are not solely relating to our condition - as others have said we do have a life outside bronch and hearing some entertaining and interesting things about others can only cheer us up.Keep well and smiling everyone.Liz> > > Kay, My bunnies are neutered. It didn't stop the males from trying to kill each other, even when there were no females around. One has an ear partially torn off. The other's eyelid is slightly mangled. I thought that maybe if I bought several females - more than enough for two males - they wouldn't fight, but my vetrinarian neighbor said they would just have more to fight about. Plus the females would fight each other. I tried to explain to the males that the one female we brought in, Lucy, was neutered and they would never get any, but they remained unconvinced. But now at 9 yrs old, their testosterone levels must have dropped. They snuggle constantly. I have the House Rabbit book too. > > There's something I've always wondered. They can tell at an instant from a distance the gender of another rabbit. How do they do it? > > > yes, an angry bunny can growl> > I haven't seen rabbits growl but I have seen them lurch toward a cat that was displaying too much interest in them. It seems to work. > > Two of our cats were feral born too. > > > Which clinic and doctor do you go to? > > I see Dr Seth at Woodland Clinic. He was voted one of the best doctors in Yolo County. I can see why. He spent an entire hour with me on my first visit. At one point he said "Tell me the story of your lungs. Start from the beginning." He's wonderfully caring. He always calls me back on the day I leave a message for him. Most doctors seem to prefer to wait several days first. I wouldn't be allowed to see a UC doc without an exceptional reason. Now that the Woodland clinic has a pulmonary specialist, I don't know what that reason would be. > > > Another thing I've found helpful is to lay on the couch with my right shoulder hanging off and my right arm/hand under my neck for support. I do this to rinse out my sinuses with salt water when I have a cold and discovered accidentally that it gets whatever's in my lungs moving upward very well! Not too great when your nose is full of salt water... gag, choke, sputter, water all over oneself :-). Now I try to clear out whatever wants to come up before I do the salt water "rinse and hold". Of course it's not as good as the percussion, but will get me through the day till the nightly percussion if I'm having trouble. > > Wow. Do you have a pan on the floor when you do this? What made you think of this technique?>

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Kay, I have Blue Shield, so it sounds like you could see Dr

if you want to. And he's accepting new patients now. I've only seen

him once, but he seems excellent.

Do you or your husband have construction-related jobs? If so we have

something else in common. My husband worked as a homebuilder for

years. It can be quite a stressful job. He just started a new job as

a commercial property broker a few weeks ago. To his surprise, he

really loves it. I'll love it too once he actually starts selling

properties.

I myself am the Caltrans webmaster.

> I'm excited to hear of your great pulmonologist in Woodland.  Thanks

so much for including his name and location.  We have private health

insurance (no job to subsidize it) and just changed to a Health

Savings Account.  The costs are breaking us, with the construction

industry practically at a standstill right now. 

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Good news ! I wrote down your doctor's name and clinic the day you mentioned it.

And I'm talking to a webmaster... I'm such a computer newbie. Just about anything beyond e-mail and working with my photographs of the kids and grandchildren I need to ask for help from my husband. I'm in awe of those who can do amazing things with computers :-).

Thanks for the update. I keep encouraging my husband to look into something besides construction (he's a general contractor with a one-man (at the present time!) business. In the past he's done half a dozen different types of jobs and has numerous skills, but loves building and remodeling (and being his own boss) so much that he's resisting doing anything else. He built a beautiful custom home out in the English Hills area of VV on a hill with five acres several years ago and it hit the market at the beginning of these bad times. It was not an experience I want to repeat. Things are stressful for us now. This past year he was fortunate to spend months finishing the complete remodel of my folks home in Cupertino so they could sell it and buy a modular in a park (they're 86). It turned out beautifully, sold for a small fortune in three weeks (three offers for cash:Silicone Valley is in a world of it's own!), and now he's making all the changes Dad wants to their new place. When that ends in a couple weeks I don't know what will happen. How did your husband get into brokering commercial properties? Are they moving any better than homes around here are right now?

Kay Re: Introduction

Kay, I have Blue Shield, so it sounds like you could see Dr if you want to. And he's accepting new patients now. I've only seenhim once, but he seems excellent.Do you or your husband have construction-related jobs? If so we havesomething else in common. My husband worked as a homebuilder foryears. It can be quite a stressful job. He just started a new job asa commercial property broker a few weeks ago. To his surprise, hereally loves it. I'll love it too once he actually starts sellingproperties.I myself am the Caltrans webmaster. > I'm excited to hear of your great pulmonologist in Woodland. Thanksso much for including his name and location. We have private healthinsurance (no job to subsidize it) and just changed to a HealthSavings Account. The costs are breaking us, with the constructionindustry practically at a standstill right now.Â