Guest guest Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Hi Fifi, Let's see, Wisconsin, camping, swattin' ticks and inconclusive Lyme tests are all positive things for Lyme.. If you lived on a boat out in the middle of the ocean, you probably would not have Lyme... I first like to hear the symptoms, then where someone lives or plays, add in ticks and more and more are the chances it is Lyme... Testing for Lyme and coinfections is often not accurate. I have 3 negative tests respond to antibiotics (abx), I surely herxed while on them, but they could not bring me to better health.. My wife also with 3 negative Lyme tests responded very well to abx and today is Lyme free... She was however treated just after the tick bite, even though the initial Doxycycline was not successful and she went into the chronic phase, IV Rocephin and oral Flagyl was successful for her... I believe having been treated with Doxy very quickly kept her infection rate low and thus abx was eventually successful in killing the Lyme organisms. If she did not have Lyme as her tests suggested, she would not have responded to the abx and would not have herxed... AND for sure, she would not have gotten her health back just by treating with abx... The best way to determine if you do have Lyme is by symptoms and where you live and play.. Both living and playing (camping) in WI definitely increases your chances of Lyme... So now you really should take a look at symptoms (you probably already have).. Since you live and play in a Lyme positive area, having 10 or more symptoms are a pretty good indication of Lyme.. Then, if you herx from a killing protocol, you most surely have Lyme.. Lyme symptoms.. http://www.canlyme.com/patsymptoms.html Coinfection symptoms: http://www.lymeinfo.net/coinfectionarticle.html Adam is correct on questioning your Lyme, reason is other illnesses sometimes do mimic Lyme symptoms very closely.... If you have ever herxed from any treatment protocol or have seen the infamous bullseye rash (usually only seen on 30 - 50%), then you probably have Lyme... If you've had the rash, it equals 100% Lyme. And today, it is very common if you have Lyme, you may also have one or more coinfections... The good news is rife/Coiliing and MMS works on all of these... Just listening to where you live and that you camped a lot, I feel you are at high risk for Lyme... But best to be sure via symptoms... WI as you may know is a very high state for ticks that carry Lyme.. And if you have been to several doctors and don't have any kind of other dx of illness, this makes for even a stronger case you may have Lyme as most doctors will not dx Lyme as they don't know much about the chronic phase of the disease... I went 15 years with only a dx of gut dismotility, but no real disease dx.. My only symptom was gut dismotility, nothing else.. In Dec 2005, I awoke with what I thought was the worst flu, I never recovered, having severe fatigue and brain fog, achy joints and muscles and a host of other cognitive issues... Having learned about Lyme from my wife's bout with it, 3 weeks later I realized my symptoms were the same as hers, I had Lyme.. Soon after joining my first Lyme support group in January, 2006, I learned from a posting from a paper written by Virginia T. Sherr, MD that one of the first symptoms of inactive Lyme is gut dismotility.. I got this dx in 1993 and a total of 70 different doctors never mentioned Lyme and never gave me any other dx... http://www.thehumansideoflyme.net/viewarticle.php?aid=62 I hope for your sake you post you don't have Lyme symptoms!! But I am bettin' you do... I think you will find our group is a great resource for Lyme... Somehow the members always have a way of helping others see the real truth about their situation... Having you think about whether you do indeed have Lyme or not really helps you determine what you do next... I would hate to see you buy an expensive rife machine only to find out you have mercury poisoning and not Lyme!! The more you talk about and read the research about Lyme, you will become more comfortable with the decisions you make... Again, if you have herxed, had a bullseye rash or have a lot of Lyme symptoms, chances are high you do have Lyme... We are all in this together!! And while we come here to learn about things that help us, we also help many others along the way... :-) Take care, Jim > > > > > > All these years of searching, studying, and trying *everything* to heal without knowing what the problem was, and now that I know it's chronic Lyme (along with mold illness and mercury poisoning), and now that I've found Rosner's books and you guys, I'm shocked to find protocols I'd never heard of before! > > > > > Fifi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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