Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

[Guest guest]

I am reposting this inquiry as I did not get any responses. Perhaps it got lost

in the shuffle? Perhaps no one has any answers? Giving it one more try:

I suggested to a friend with arthritis in her hands to try using some DMSO

(topically). She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat anything for

a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of ibuprofen int he past

and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to stop using the ibuprofen.

Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to topically applied DMSO? If so, is there

a way to avoid that reaction. I would love to have some information to give

her.

thanks

mara

[Guest guest]

Not in my experience. I'd write it off as coincidence.

In my experience when one begins a fast, intentional or not, ones

stomach can be irritated or " not right " [as in her report of feeling

like it's consuming itself if you will] I'd think that if she has any

kind of stomach acid at all and any NASID irritation those two factors

would have given her the symptom reported.

If I were she, I'd consider taking some aloe internally, maybe some

fresh ground flax, maybe some marshmallow tea. maybe a couple of

tablespoons of heavy cream. maybe some baking soda--bicarbonate soda and

water. maybe look up things to help an irritated stomach and take those

immediately prior to putting diluted DMSo on her hands.

I cannot fathom being so sick as to not be able to eat anything for two

days--and still walk around doing stuff. Yes, I understand (and

practice) fasting but that's different from not being able to eat. Your

friend appears to have more going on than arthritic fingers and

irritated stomach.

Hmmmm. Is it possible the DMSO caused a release of stomach acid to

which she is unaccustomed? That's not a typical action when DMSO is

topically applied, but ? I know one ingests DMSO on an /empty/ stomach

to avoid nausea but have never had it cause the stomach-eating-itself

sensation when topically applied (nor when ingested). Have her take some

demulcent food (lots of demulcent in a search) before applying it next

time. Shoot, if she's going to stay off her food for a couple days it

could help the stomach if she ingested a Tablespoon of diluted DMSO

every few hours. That'd fix Arthur in a few doses and possibly the

stomach irritation.

Saralou

Keep in mind, I never give medical advice;see a medical practicer for

that. I do exercise my 1st amendment right to practice my religion per

4:17 and to freely express my opinion, citing my experience,

reading, hypotheses, conclusions, musings,ideas etc.

>

> I am reposting this inquiry as I did not get any responses. Perhaps it

> got lost in the shuffle? Perhaps no one has any answers? Giving it one

> more try:

>

> I suggested to a friend with arthritis in her hands to try using some

> DMSO (topically). She reported back to me that her hands felt much

> better, but she thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was

> unable to eat anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had

> used a lot of ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach,

> so she had to stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach

> reaction to topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid

> that reaction. I would love to have some information to give her.

>

> thanks

> mara

>

>

[Guest guest]

I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp since it's

already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very difficult to heal.

Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets used so much, and needs

essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause pain.

An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or baking soda in

water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction stops, you've got your

answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest going to potassium bicarb, sold

in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7 lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in

these cases, so months of sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise..

Reg alka has aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or not. My

friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not properly treated. The

caveat here is they say it's healed by taking their drugs, and then she ended up

in emergency surgery. You'd just want a definitive diagnosis, not their

treatment for it. ---tls

Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

.. DMSO (topically).

She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she thought the

DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat anything for a couple of

days. She did say that she had used a lot of ibuprofen int he past and it had

irritated her stomach, so she had to stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of

a stomach reaction to topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid

that reaction.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Mara. I have used DMSO for quite some time, both topically and

internally and haven't had any problems.

That being said... I had to take antibiotics for while a few years back

and, in spite of taking lots of probiotics and yogurt, experienced horrible

stomach and gut pains after a while. When I complained to my surgeon, he

handed me a bottle of Mylanta..lol.. Gee.. thanks doc. I felt like I had

eaten ground glass..

Long story, short... I ended up taking a product put out by Lane Labs

called " Nature's Lining " . It literally can help to strengthen weak areas

of the stomach.. rebuild them and thicken them. My experience with this

product is that.. after using a whole bottle and part of another (about a

month and 1/2), I haven't had to take it any more and I no longer

experience gut or stomach pain and it has been several years since this

happened.

If this is your friend's problem, it can be an easy fix and relatively

inexpensive. If memory serves, you just chew one capsule with meals.

Now.. let me also say that I have never had a problem with gerds etc. I do

feel like the antibiotic really did a number on me and the Nature's Lining

'cured' the damage.

I too, took ibuprophen for years and had stopped taking it a year or so

before my surgeries (I broke my back yrs ago and have unrelenting

pain). She needs to get off the ibuprophen, take shark cartilage or bovine

cartilage and hyaluronic acid etc... There are things 'out there' that can

help with inflammation and pain that won't have the side effects of

ibuprophen. Lola

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Mara Miles wrote:

> **

>

>

> I am reposting this inquiry as I did not get any responses. Perhaps it got

> lost in the shuffle? Perhaps no one has any answers? Giving it one more try:

>

> I suggested to a friend with arthritis in her hands to try using some DMSO

> (topically). She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but

> she thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

> anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

> ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to stop

> using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to topically

> applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction. I would love to

> have some information to give her.

>

> thanks

> mara

>

>

[Guest guest]

Am wondering here about long term lowering pH in the stomach and the

ramifications on health and nutrition. Seems to me that a long term

program of a neutralilzer of any kind will cause a decrease in nutrition

by simply rendering all foods to where they can not be as easily

metabolized. I know steady use of antacids can do that. I took vinegar

and cut caffeine to be rid of heartburn and reflux and it worked. Now I

do not event take vinegar at all, but my coffee intake remains at one

cup a day, and not three as it was before.

Am wondering about using aloe vera to soothe and heal the ulcer or

whatever the problem is. The Budwig diet will cause the body pH to

raise, which could help arthritis. Hyalauronic acid supplement/capsules

is supposed to be good for arthritis too.

Gerry

>

> I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

> maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp

> since it's already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very

> difficult to heal. Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets

> used so much, and needs essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause pain.

>

> An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or

> baking soda in water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction

> stops, you've got your answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest

> going to potassium bicarb, sold in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7

> lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in these cases, so months of

> sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise.. Reg alka has

> aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

>

> It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or

> not. My friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not

> properly treated. The caveat here is they say it's healed by taking

> their drugs, and then she ended up in emergency surgery. You'd just

> want a definitive diagnosis, not their treatment for it. ---tls

>

> Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

>

> .. DMSO (topically).

> She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

> thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

> anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

> ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to

> stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

> topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction.

>

>

[Guest guest]

My friend is in the early stages of MS. Is it possible that might have

contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically? I have searched

but am not finding references to DMSO causing this. But she said that the

bottle said something about it possibly causing gastric upset?

mara

> Am wondering here about long term lowering pH in the stomach and the

> ramifications on health and nutrition. Seems to me that a long term

> program of a neutralilzer of any kind will cause a decrease in nutrition

> by simply rendering all foods to where they can not be as easily

> metabolized. I know steady use of antacids can do that. I took vinegar

> and cut caffeine to be rid of heartburn and reflux and it worked. Now I

> do not event take vinegar at all, but my coffee intake remains at one

> cup a day, and not three as it was before.

>

> Am wondering about using aloe vera to soothe and heal the ulcer or

> whatever the problem is. The Budwig diet will cause the body pH to

> raise, which could help arthritis. Hyalauronic acid supplement/capsules

> is supposed to be good for arthritis too.

>

> Gerry

>

>

> >

> > I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

> > maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp

> > since it's already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very

> > difficult to heal. Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets

> > used so much, and needs essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause pain.

> >

> > An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or

> > baking soda in water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction

> > stops, you've got your answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest

> > going to potassium bicarb, sold in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7

> > lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in these cases, so months of

> > sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise.. Reg alka has

> > aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

> >

> > It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or

> > not. My friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not

> > properly treated. The caveat here is they say it's healed by taking

> > their drugs, and then she ended up in emergency surgery. You'd just

> > want a definitive diagnosis, not their treatment for it. ---tls

> >

> > Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

> >

> > .. DMSO (topically).

> > She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

> > thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

> > anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

> > ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to

> > stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

> > topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If the bottle says that on its label, then there have to have been

incidents that were reported to them. They would not put that on there

otherwise.

Gerry

> My friend is in the early stages of MS. Is it possible that might have

contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically? I have searched

but am not finding references to DMSO causing this. But she said that the

bottle said something about it possibly causing gastric upset?

>

> mara

>

>

>

>> Am wondering here about long term lowering pH in the stomach and the

>> ramifications on health and nutrition. Seems to me that a long term

>> program of a neutralilzer of any kind will cause a decrease in nutrition

>> by simply rendering all foods to where they can not be as easily

>> metabolized. I know steady use of antacids can do that. I took vinegar

>> and cut caffeine to be rid of heartburn and reflux and it worked. Now I

>> do not event take vinegar at all, but my coffee intake remains at one

>> cup a day, and not three as it was before.

>>

>> Am wondering about using aloe vera to soothe and heal the ulcer or

>> whatever the problem is. The Budwig diet will cause the body pH to

>> raise, which could help arthritis. Hyalauronic acid supplement/capsules

>> is supposed to be good for arthritis too.

>>

>> Gerry

>>

>>

>>> I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

>>> maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp

>>> since it's already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very

>>> difficult to heal. Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets

>>> used so much, and needs essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause pain.

>>>

>>> An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or

>>> baking soda in water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction

>>> stops, you've got your answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest

>>> going to potassium bicarb, sold in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7

>>> lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in these cases, so months of

>>> sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise.. Reg alka has

>>> aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

>>>

>>> It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or

>>> not. My friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not

>>> properly treated. The caveat here is they say it's healed by taking

>>> their drugs, and then she ended up in emergency surgery. You'd just

>>> want a definitive diagnosis, not their treatment for it. ---tls

>>>

>>> Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

>>>

>>> .. DMSO (topically).

>>> She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

>>> thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

>>> anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

>>> ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to

>>> stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

>>> topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction.

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Which bottle? The DMSO or something for MS?

IF you ingest DMSO on a stomach with food in it, it is likely you will

have some gastric upset. IF you apply DMSO topically and get queasy,

something else is going on.

It is possible, anything's possible, especially when we believe. No one

who uses DMSO topically with any regularity reports gastric

upset--whatever " gastric upset " means. If she wants to think it's the

DMSO, she'll get it every time she uses the DMSO.

Placebo effect is often stronger than intended effects.

Is she a diet pop drinker? Maybe it's reacting with residual

aspartame? You said she's an ibuprofin user; perhaps that's reacting in

the stomach.

While individual results vary, it is NOT commonly reported among topical

DMSO users to have gastric upset. You have to look at the whole

environment to make the link.

Saralou

DMSO Topically - Information and Recommended Uses

http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T215027.html Histotoxic changes were

observed together with healing of ischemic <../glossary/G1083.html>

ulcers <../glossary/G483.html> on fingertips, relief from pain and

stiffness, and an increase in strength. The investigators noted, " It

should be emphasized that these have never been observed with any other

mode of therapy. " [/Ann NY Acad Sci 141: pp.613-29, 1967/]

>

> If the bottle says that on its label, then there have to have been

> incidents that were reported to them. They would not put that on there

> otherwise.

>

> Gerry

>

>

> > My friend is in the early stages of MS. Is it possible that might

> have contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically? I

> have searched but am not finding references to DMSO causing this. But

> she said that the bottle said something about it possibly causing

> gastric upset?

> >

> > mara

>

[Guest guest]

Mara, my dear sister is in advanced MS....Vit D levels are critical and

nutrition and HUGE....stop the sugars and carbs..my sis didn't pay enough

attention to nutrition sadly.... joyce

________________________________

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:53 AM

Subject: Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

My friend is in the early stages of MS.  Is it possible that might have

contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically?  I have searched

but am not finding references to DMSO causing this.  But she said that the

bottle said something about it possibly causing gastric upset?

mara

> Am wondering here about long term lowering pH in the stomach and the

> ramifications on health and nutrition. Seems to me that a long term

> program of a neutralilzer of any kind will cause a decrease in nutrition

> by simply rendering all foods to where they can not be as easily

> metabolized. I know steady use of antacids can do that. I took vinegar

> and cut caffeine to be rid of heartburn and reflux and it worked. Now I

> do not event take vinegar at all, but my coffee intake remains at one

> cup a day, and not three as it was before.

>

> Am wondering about using aloe vera to soothe and heal the ulcer or

> whatever the problem is. The Budwig diet will cause the body pH to

> raise, which could help arthritis. Hyalauronic acid supplement/capsules

> is supposed to be good for arthritis too.

>

> Gerry

>

>

> >

> > I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

> > maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp

> > since it's already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very

> > difficult to heal. Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets

> > used so much, and needs essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause pain.

> >

> > An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or

> > baking soda in water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction

> > stops, you've got your answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest

> > going to potassium bicarb, sold in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7

> > lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in these cases, so months of

> > sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise.. Reg alka has

> > aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

> >

> > It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or

> > not. My friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not

> > properly treated. The caveat here is they say it's healed by taking

> > their drugs, and then she ended up in emergency surgery. You'd just

> > want a definitive diagnosis, not their treatment for it. ---tls

> >

> > Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

> >

> > .. DMSO (topically).

> > She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

> > thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

> > anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

> > ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to

> > stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

> > topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> Which bottle? The DMSO or something for MS?

>

The DMSO bottle.

>

> IF you ingest DMSO on a stomach with food in it, it is likely you will

> have some gastric upset. IF you apply DMSO topically and get queasy,

> something else is going on.

>

> It is possible, anything's possible, especially when we believe. No one

> who uses DMSO topically with any regularity reports gastric

> upset--whatever " gastric upset " means. If she wants to think it's the

> DMSO, she'll get it every time she uses the DMSO.

>

> Placebo effect is often stronger than intended effects.

>

> Is she a diet pop drinker? Maybe it's reacting with residual

> aspartame? You said she's an ibuprofin user; perhaps that's reacting in

> the stomach.

>

I will check about the diet pop. She had to stop taking Ibuprofin because it

bothered her stomach.

>

> While individual results vary, it is NOT commonly reported among topical

> DMSO users to have gastric upset. You have to look at the whole

> environment to make the link.

>

>

Thanks,

mara

> Saralou

>

> DMSO Topically - Information and Recommended Uses

> http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T215027.html Histotoxic changes were

> observed together with healing of ischemic <../glossary/G1083.html>

> ulcers <../glossary/G483.html> on fingertips, relief from pain and

> stiffness, and an increase in strength. The investigators noted, " It

> should be emphasized that these have never been observed with any other

> mode of therapy. " [/Ann NY Acad Sci 141: pp.613-29, 1967/]

>

>

> >

> > If the bottle says that on its label, then there have to have been

> > incidents that were reported to them. They would not put that on there

> > otherwise.

> >

> > Gerry

> >

> >

> > > My friend is in the early stages of MS. Is it possible that might

> > have contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically? I

> > have searched but am not finding references to DMSO causing this. But

> > she said that the bottle said something about it possibly causing

> > gastric upset?

> > >

> > > mara

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does your sister know about Low Dose Naltrexone for MS? I can send you some

links if interested.

thanks,

mara

> Mara, my dear sister is in advanced MS....Vit D levels are critical and

nutrition and HUGE....stop the sugars and carbs..my sis didn't pay enough

attention to nutrition sadly.... joyce

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:53 AM

> Subject: Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

>

> My friend is in the early stages of MS. Is it possible that might have

contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically? I have searched

but am not finding references to DMSO causing this. But she said that the

bottle said something about it possibly causing gastric upset?

>

> mara

>

>

>

> > Am wondering here about long term lowering pH in the stomach and the

> > ramifications on health and nutrition. Seems to me that a long term

> > program of a neutralilzer of any kind will cause a decrease in nutrition

> > by simply rendering all foods to where they can not be as easily

> > metabolized. I know steady use of antacids can do that. I took vinegar

> > and cut caffeine to be rid of heartburn and reflux and it worked. Now I

> > do not event take vinegar at all, but my coffee intake remains at one

> > cup a day, and not three as it was before.

> >

> > Am wondering about using aloe vera to soothe and heal the ulcer or

> > whatever the problem is. The Budwig diet will cause the body pH to

> > raise, which could help arthritis. Hyalauronic acid supplement/capsules

> > is supposed to be good for arthritis too.

> >

> > Gerry

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

> > > maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp

> > > since it's already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very

> > > difficult to heal. Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets

> > > used so much, and needs essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause pain.

> > >

> > > An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or

> > > baking soda in water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction

> > > stops, you've got your answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest

> > > going to potassium bicarb, sold in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7

> > > lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in these cases, so months of

> > > sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise.. Reg alka has

> > > aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

> > >

> > > It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or

> > > not. My friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not

> > > properly treated. The caveat here is they say it's healed by taking

> > > their drugs, and then she ended up in emergency surgery. You'd just

> > > want a definitive diagnosis, not their treatment for it. ---tls

> > >

> > > Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

> > >

> > > .. DMSO (topically).

> > > She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

> > > thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

> > > anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

> > > ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to

> > > stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

> > > topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Mara, I sent her LDN info when I was trying it a couple yrs back...she didn't

act on it, she was so heavily involved with her MS specialists and all the drugs

that she wasn't up for trying it...I know a lot of MS  patients do well with

LDN.  Sadly, I believe the tons of drugs my sis took/takes, has taken a heavy

toll.  She trusted those docs..MS is horrible, many dis-eases are....joyce 

 

________________________________

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:24 AM

Subject: Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

Does your sister know about Low Dose Naltrexone for MS?  I can send you some

links if interested.

thanks,

mara

> Mara, my dear sister is in advanced MS....Vit D levels are critical and

nutrition and HUGE....stop the sugars and carbs..my sis didn't pay enough

attention to nutrition sadly.... joyce

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:53 AM

> Subject: Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

>

> My friend is in the early stages of MS.  Is it possible that might have

contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically?  I have searched

but am not finding references to DMSO causing this.  But she said that the

bottle said something about it possibly causing gastric upset?

>

> mara

>

>

>

> > Am wondering here about long term lowering pH in the stomach and the

> > ramifications on health and nutrition. Seems to me that a long term

> > program of a neutralilzer of any kind will cause a decrease in nutrition

> > by simply rendering all foods to where they can not be as easily

> > metabolized. I know steady use of antacids can do that. I took vinegar

> > and cut caffeine to be rid of heartburn and reflux and it worked. Now I

> > do not event take vinegar at all, but my coffee intake remains at one

> > cup a day, and not three as it was before.

> >

> > Am wondering about using aloe vera to soothe and heal the ulcer or

> > whatever the problem is. The Budwig diet will cause the body pH to

> > raise, which could help arthritis. Hyalauronic acid supplement/capsules

> > is supposed to be good for arthritis too.

> >

> > Gerry

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

> > > maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp

> > > since it's already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very

> > > difficult to heal. Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets

> > > used so much, and needs essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause pain.

> > >

> > > An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or

> > > baking soda in water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction

> > > stops, you've got your answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest

> > > going to potassium bicarb, sold in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7

> > > lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in these cases, so months of

> > > sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise.. Reg alka has

> > > aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

> > >

> > > It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or

> > > not. My friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not

> > > properly treated. The caveat here is they say it's healed by taking

> > > their drugs, and then she ended up in emergency surgery. You'd just

> > > want a definitive diagnosis, not their treatment for it. ---tls

> > >

> > > Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

> > >

> > > .. DMSO (topically).

> > > She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

> > > thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

> > > anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

> > > ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to

> > > stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

> > > topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction.

> > >

> > >

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-- Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

>

> My friend is in the early stages of MS. Is it possible that might have

contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically? I have

searched but am not finding references to DMSO causing this. But she said

that the bottle said something about it possibly causing gastric upset?

>

> mara

>

>

>

> > Am wondering here about long term lowering pH in the stomach and the

> > ramifications on health and nutrition. Seems to me that a long term

> > program of a neutralilzer of any kind will cause a decrease in nutrition

> > by simply rendering all foods to where they can not be as easily

> > metabolized. I know steady use of antacids can do that. I took vinegar

> > and cut caffeine to be rid of heartburn and reflux and it worked. Now I

> > do not event take vinegar at all, but my coffee intake remains at one

> > cup a day, and not three as it was before.

> >

> > Am wondering about using aloe vera to soothe and heal the ulcer or

> > whatever the problem is. The Budwig diet will cause the body pH to

> > raise, which could help arthritis. Hyalauronic acid supplement/capsules

> > is supposed to be good for arthritis too.

> >

> > Gerry

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

> > > maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp

> > > since it's already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very

> > > difficult to heal. Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets

> > > used so much, and needs essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause

pain.

> > >

> > > An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or

> > > baking soda in water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction

> > > stops, you've got your answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest

> > > going to potassium bicarb, sold in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7

> > > lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in these cases, so months of

> > > sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise.. Reg alka has

> > > aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

> > >

> > > It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or

> > > not. My friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not

> > > properly treated. The caveat here is they say it's healed by taking

> > > their drugs, and then she ended up in emergency surgery. You'd just

> > > want a definitive diagnosis, not their treatment for it. ---tls

> > >

> > > Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

> > >

> > > .. DMSO (topically).

> > > She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

> > > thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

> > > anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

> > > ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to

> > > stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

> > > topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Joyce,

I am so sorry. I know how hard it is to have to watch this.

mara

> Mara, I sent her LDN info when I was trying it a couple yrs back...she didn't

act on it, she was so heavily involved with her MS specialists and all the drugs

that she wasn't up for trying it...I know a lot of MS patients do well with

LDN. Sadly, I believe the tons of drugs my sis took/takes, has taken a heavy

toll. She trusted those docs..MS is horrible, many dis-eases are....joyce

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:24 AM

> Subject: Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

>

> Does your sister know about Low Dose Naltrexone for MS? I can send you some

links if interested.

>

> thanks,

> mara

>

>

>

> > Mara, my dear sister is in advanced MS....Vit D levels are critical and

nutrition and HUGE....stop the sugars and carbs..my sis didn't pay enough

attention to nutrition sadly.... joyce

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:53 AM

> > Subject: Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

> >

> > My friend is in the early stages of MS. Is it possible that might have

contributed to the stomach reaction to DMSO applied topically? I have searched

but am not finding references to DMSO causing this. But she said that the

bottle said something about it possibly causing gastric upset?

> >

> > mara

> >

> >

> >

> > > Am wondering here about long term lowering pH in the stomach and the

> > > ramifications on health and nutrition. Seems to me that a long term

> > > program of a neutralilzer of any kind will cause a decrease in nutrition

> > > by simply rendering all foods to where they can not be as easily

> > > metabolized. I know steady use of antacids can do that. I took vinegar

> > > and cut caffeine to be rid of heartburn and reflux and it worked. Now I

> > > do not event take vinegar at all, but my coffee intake remains at one

> > > cup a day, and not three as it was before.

> > >

> > > Am wondering about using aloe vera to soothe and heal the ulcer or

> > > whatever the problem is. The Budwig diet will cause the body pH to

> > > raise, which could help arthritis. Hyalauronic acid supplement/capsules

> > > is supposed to be good for arthritis too.

> > >

> > > Gerry

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I 'm rather clueless as to exactly how this happens but ...

> > > > maybe she needs more bicarbonates to buffer her stomach lining, esp

> > > > since it's already been irritated. The stomach I understand is very

> > > > difficult to heal. Ulcer patients have a dickens of a time bcz it gets

> > > > used so much, and needs essentially to stay 'acid'. More acids cause

pain.

> > > >

> > > > An interesting experiment wd be to take some Alka-Seltzer Gold or

> > > > baking soda in water + a splash of lemon-lime juice. If the reaction

> > > > stops, you've got your answer. If this is indeed the case, I'd suggest

> > > > going to potassium bicarb, sold in brewing stores or online.. ($6-7

> > > > lb.) Sodium can irritate the stomach in these cases, so months of

> > > > sodium alka-seltzer (baking soda) might not be wise.. Reg alka has

> > > > aspirin, so that's definitely out over the long haul too.

> > > >

> > > > It might be good to get a medical exam to see if there's an ulcer or

> > > > not. My friend has nursed one for years; it can rupture if not

> > > > properly treated. The caveat here is they say it's healed by taking

> > > > their drugs, and then she ended up in emergency surgery. You'd just

> > > > want a definitive diagnosis, not their treatment for it. ---tls

> > > >

> > > > Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

> > > >

> > > > .. DMSO (topically).

> > > > She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

> > > > thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

> > > > anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot of

> > > > ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had to

> > > > stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

> > > > topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that reaction.

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I have a lovely friend whose daughter was diagnosed with MS and the family

were distraught and similarly totally refused to look at anything other than

the " Best Specialist " in Melbourne - not sure if people are snobs, stupid or

just blind - heart breaking. I never say anything now to them about MS as

they know best. Just as most people know best when I mention my favourite

homeopathic remedy that I know will resolve symptoms - then I sometimes bite

my tongue and am thankful that I have a husband who takes anything I give

him - at least I can resolve symptoms in someone!! I recommended a remedy

which I know would give someone instant relief on another list and some

herbal student came along and advised against it! I was so gobsmacked I

didn't respond. 1961 I started prescribing homeopathy.

Jane

Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

>> > > >

>> > > > .. DMSO (topically).

>> > > > She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

>> > > > thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable to eat

>> > > > anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used a lot

>> > > > of

>> > > > ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so she had

>> > > > to

>> > > > stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

>> > > > topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that

>> > > > reaction.

>> > > >

>> > > >

[Guest guest]

Jane,

Check this out. Fluoride poisoning in a cut. Really gross.

http://news444.com/a/1044766/salisbury_fire_dept_training_newsletter

Gerry

>

> I have a lovely friend whose daughter was diagnosed with MS and the

> family

> were distraught and similarly totally refused to look at anything

> other than

> the " Best Specialist " in Melbourne - not sure if people are snobs,

> stupid or

> just blind - heart breaking. I never say anything now to them about MS as

> they know best. Just as most people know best when I mention my favourite

> homeopathic remedy that I know will resolve symptoms - then I

> sometimes bite

> my tongue and am thankful that I have a husband who takes anything I give

> him - at least I can resolve symptoms in someone!! I recommended a remedy

> which I know would give someone instant relief on another list and some

> herbal student came along and advised against it! I was so gobsmacked I

> didn't respond. 1961 I started prescribing homeopathy.

>

> Jane

>

> Re: Can DMSO cause stomach irritation?

> >> > > >

> >> > > > .. DMSO (topically).

> >> > > > She reported back to me that her hands felt much better, but she

> >> > > > thought the DMSO " ate " her stomach. She said she was unable

> to eat

> >> > > > anything for a couple of days. She did say that she had used

> a lot

> >> > > > of

> >> > > > ibuprofen int he past and it had irritated her stomach, so

> she had

> >> > > > to

> >> > > > stop using the ibuprofen. Anybody heard of a stomach reaction to

> >> > > > topically applied DMSO? If so, is there a way to avoid that

> >> > > > reaction.

> >> > > >

> >> > > >