Re: Hashimoto's and iodine?

[Guest guest]

huge controversies just like any other topic i guess

basicallly; hashis /ATD patietns can have far greater reactions and issues

taking Iodine =Espeically scary is the famous iodine Doctors favorite product =

iodoral. its is ?1,000? timer higher than RDA which is only 150mCg.

someone posted the difference recenlty but i can't remember if its 1,ooo or

10,ooo times higher than RDA..

regardless

for ME and a lot of hashis, once they get started on doing the Modern/good

Hypot and Adrenal Fatigue and ferritin/iron regimens..

then at some point a lot of us Can take a good quality multi

vitamin/mineral/amino acid daily supplement that contains the RDA of iodine.

i personally like DR Teitlebaum's Daily Powder Multi-vit/min/amino acid +

few other tings

cuz it has a Ratio of Selenium: Iodine of 2:1

and plus since its a powder??

i can use less per day ( i use only about 1/2 scoop = 60++ day supply ) and

doing so is cheaper for me cuz i am on a budgeht (I only buy his product when

its on sale for 25% at my local Health food store too

Note: i also take extra Vit C and sometimes extra zinc tabs etc

like many take even more Magnesium etc..

-Carol

i beleve the liver and MEtabolic Pathways=> our cells many varied " enzyme

chemical REactions " that take place in all of our Cells) have to get some help

doing thier jobs before many of us can tolerate taking RDA iodine and ???

" Adreanl Fatigue " is really about the stress load AND the brain's reaction to

getting bathed in stress neurohormones => brain gets More stressed and increased

the stress systems even higher

exponential stress-mode chronically set higher and higher as months /years go

by. (EG folks who were left hypot with low Free t3 and lowest NOrmal Free T4= on

SInthroid dosed to TSH only )

lower daily stressors load and Add in Good quality Vits/mins ETC for good " Fuel "

to run all of our cellular engines

helps our body' cells tolerate the things that should exist at a certain level

in our body.

>

> Is that a good thing? I read somewhere that it wasn't?

>

> Are there good books and websites to read about Thyroiditis?

>

> Stacey

>

[Guest guest]

, we've been on parallel paths. And I'm so glad to know about your

experience with iodine, since I'm preparing to try it.

I have Hashi's (TPO antibodies were 559) and the Reverse T3 issue as well (my

T3/RT3 ratio was 14). Have been on T3 for almost 3 years -- it's the only

thyroid med that has helped with myofascial pain, digestion and body temps.

But I still have very bad adrenal misregulation. I cannot tolerate anything but

the mildest exercise, as my cortisol shoots up and doesn't come back down for a

couple days.

Questions: Which iodine test did you have done? And how did you know your RT3

cleared?

T.

>

> This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH lists. I

> only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had a

> Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing a

> big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your

> Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a lot of

> fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it was

> stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.

>

> I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3 about the

> 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on doing

> so.

>

> I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling pretty good

> so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a

> lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly gone

> now, which is great.

>

> I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for

> Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you can

> and then make up your own mind.

>

> One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels tested

> and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would

> not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to have

> worked for me.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,Have you had your adrenals tested with a 4 x a day saliva test?I have low cortisol, particularly in the mornings, and have been on HC since October 2010 when I also started cynomel.I had a urine test for the iodine levels.

I haven't had any blood tests re the T3 clearing.    However, about week 12 I had a few days where Is starting feeling really bad with a rapid heartbeat and I was perspiring, despite my temperatures having only just almost reached the normal point.    (I had very low body temperatures in the 33s and 34s).    I asked on the RT3 list and was told it sounded like I'd cleared.    I lowered my cynomel from 150mcg to 75mcg and straight away started feeling better i.e. heart rate dropped, etc.    After a few days I felt a little more hypo that usual and have slowly raised my cynomel to 100mcg where I'll stay for now.

I don't think I could have done this without the HC.     I plan to stay on HC about another 4 to 6 months and then, by keeping watch that my temperatures are stable, seeing if I can wean off it.   I was a worried about the effects of cortisone, taking the HC, but once I realised that I'm only taking enough to bring my levels up to normal i.e. I'm not creating high cortisone levels in my body, I was okay with it.

 

, we've been on parallel paths. And I'm so glad to know about your experience with iodine, since I'm preparing to try it.

I have Hashi's (TPO antibodies were 559) and the Reverse T3 issue as well (my T3/RT3 ratio was 14). Have been on T3 for almost 3 years -- it's the only thyroid med that has helped with myofascial pain, digestion and body temps.

But I still have very bad adrenal misregulation. I cannot tolerate anything but the mildest exercise, as my cortisol shoots up and doesn't come back down for a couple days.

Questions: Which iodine test did you have done? And how did you know your RT3 cleared?

T.

>

> This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH lists. I

> only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had a

> Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing a

> big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your

> Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a lot of

> fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it was

> stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.

>

> I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3 about the

> 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on doing

> so.

>

> I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling pretty good

> so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a

> lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly gone

> now, which is great.

>

> I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for

> Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you can

> and then make up your own mind.

>

> One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels tested

> and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would

> not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to have

> worked for me.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I've had the Diagnos-Techs test twice. On a 'usual' day, my cortisol curve

is blunted, like they describe with CFS. On a day after exercise, it's

practically off the chart (at noon it was off the chart, actually).

I tried HC cream for a while, and I couldn't figure out if it was helping or

what.

Once I realized what was happening with my cortisol whenever the exercise laid

me flat (neck spasms/migraine/nausea), I stopped the cream, and started taking

stuff to lower my cortisol (Seriphos, ADHS).

It's clear my adrenals are capable of making cortisol. But they are being

misregulated. The problem is upstream.

My best guess is fluoride/bromide toxicity. Thus my interest in iodine.

Questions: Did you have any detox symptoms on iodine? And what was your starting

dose?

> > >

> > > This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH lists. I

> > > only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> > > couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had a

> > > Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing a

> > > big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your

> > > Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a lot

> > of

> > > fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it was

> > > stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.

> > >

> > > I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3 about

> > the

> > > 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on doing

> > > so.

> > >

> > > I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling pretty

> > good

> > > so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a

> > > lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly gone

> > > now, which is great.

> > >

> > > I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for

> > > Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> > > different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you can

> > > and then make up your own mind.

> > >

> > > One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels

> > tested

> > > and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would

> > > not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to have

> > > worked for me.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

fwiw, the real meaning of " Adrenal Fatigue " is that people's Adrenals are not

the problem it is the Upstream 'team-member' who is at fault

eg) = the brain = via the HYpothalamus= is telling the " stress system " to work

SUPER hard :/

by the hypothalamus telling the HPA axis and the SNS to work SUPER hard.. that

includes whipping the adrenals and its production of our steroid hormones

/stress vs sex hormones for example..

ANY thing can incerase the upstream problem = increase the brain's stress

mode even higher...

Sugar is the most common cause per the doctor who made up the name " Adrenal

Fatigue " . DR lectures/teaches doctors now about " Adrenal Fatiuge "

... he teaches them about the H P A axis

-Carol

> > > >

> > > > This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH lists. I

> > > > only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> > > > couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had a

> > > > Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing a

> > > > big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your

> > > > Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a

lot

> > > of

> > > > fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it

was

> > > > stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.

> > > >

> > > > I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3 about

> > > the

> > > > 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on

doing

> > > > so.

> > > >

> > > > I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling pretty

> > > good

> > > > so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a

> > > > lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly

gone

> > > > now, which is great.

> > > >

> > > > I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for

> > > > Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> > > > different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you

can

> > > > and then make up your own mind.

> > > >

> > > > One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels

> > > tested

> > > > and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would

> > > > not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to have

> > > > worked for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,I think my starting dose was 12.5mg.     And then I'd just increase every week or so.I had unpleasant detox symptoms for a while - just feeling unwell and really fuzzy in my head.     But each time I got the detox symptoms I'd lower my dose or give it up for a few days and eventually I got up to 100mg.    I think I had more problems with detox earlier on, it got easier about about 50mgs.

I think some of my problem was probably the vast amounts of tea I used to drink.    It was always " naturally low caffeine " and organic tea, but I didn't know about flouride in tea at the time.

 

Yes, I've had the Diagnos-Techs test twice. On a 'usual' day, my cortisol curve is blunted, like they describe with CFS. On a day after exercise, it's practically off the chart (at noon it was off the chart, actually).

I tried HC cream for a while, and I couldn't figure out if it was helping or what.

Once I realized what was happening with my cortisol whenever the exercise laid me flat (neck spasms/migraine/nausea), I stopped the cream, and started taking stuff to lower my cortisol (Seriphos, ADHS).

It's clear my adrenals are capable of making cortisol. But they are being misregulated. The problem is upstream.

My best guess is fluoride/bromide toxicity. Thus my interest in iodine.

Questions: Did you have any detox symptoms on iodine? And what was your starting dose?

> > >

> > > This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH lists. I

> > > only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> > > couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had a

> > > Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing a

> > > big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your

> > > Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a lot

> > of

> > > fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it was

> > > stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.

> > >

> > > I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3 about

> > the

> > > 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on doing

> > > so.

> > >

> > > I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling pretty

> > good

> > > so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a

> > > lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly gone

> > > now, which is great.

> > >

> > > I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for

> > > Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> > > different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you can

> > > and then make up your own mind.

> > >

> > > One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels

> > tested

> > > and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would

> > > not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to have

> > > worked for me.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of iodine

is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my

Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above

that I feel is too much.

This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble with

supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this very

clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually

increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me,

while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and

then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed

there since, that was over four years ago.

Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2 and

B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results with

the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other recommended

supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

HTH,

~Bj

> > > > >

> > > > > This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH

> > lists. I

> > > > > only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> > > > > couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had

> > a

> > > > > Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing

> > a

> > > > > big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your

> > > > > Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a

> > lot

> > > > of

> > > > > fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it

> > was

> > > > > stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on

> > doing

> > > > > so.

> > > > >

> > > > > I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling

> > pretty

> > > > good

> > > > > so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a

> > > > > lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly

> > gone

> > > > > now, which is great.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for

> > > > > Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> > > > > different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you

> > can

> > > > > and then make up your own mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels

> > > > tested

> > > > > and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would

> > > > > not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to

> > have

> > > > > worked for me.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting...I just ordered Dr. Brownstein's book on Iodine. He's located in my state about an hour away...sometimes I think I should just bite the $bullet$ and go see him.DeannaTo: Thyroiditis Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 11:34:05 AMSubject:

Re: Hashimoto's and iodine?

Hi,

I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above that I feel is too much.

This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

HTH,

~Bj

> > > > >

> > > > > This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH

> > lists. I

> > > > > only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> > > > > couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had

> > a

> > > > > Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing

> > a

> > > > > big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your

> > > > > Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a

> > lot

> > > > of

> > > > > fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it

> > was

> > > > > stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on

> > doing

> > > > > so.

> > > > >

> > > > > I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling

> > pretty

> > > > good

> > > > > so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a

> > > > > lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly

> > gone

> > > > > now, which is great.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for

> > > > > Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> > > > > different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you

> > can

> > > > > and then make up your own mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels

> > > > tested

> > > > > and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would

> > > > > not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to

> > have

> > > > > worked for me.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

 

Hope you don't mind me interjecting here, but I know that Brownstein isn't accepting any new patients. However, a couple of other doctors in his group are. My sister in MI just got an appt. with one and it's four months out. It's a hard group to get into! Best of luck!

 

Interesting...I just ordered Dr. Brownstein's book on Iodine. He's located in my state about an hour away...sometimes I think I should just bite the $bullet$ and go see him.Deanna

To: Thyroiditis

Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 11:34:05 AMSubject: Re: Hashimoto's and iodine?

 

Hi,I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above that I feel is too much.

This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

HTH,~Bj

> > > > >> > > > > This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH> > lists. I> > > > > only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> > > > > couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had> > a> > > > > Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing> > a

> > > > > big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your> > > > > Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a> > lot> > > > of

> > > > > fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it> > was> > > > > stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.> > > > >

> > > > > I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3> > about> > > > the> > > > > 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on

> > doing> > > > > so.> > > > >> > > > > I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling> > pretty> > > > good

> > > > > so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a> > > > > lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly> > gone> > > > > now, which is great.

> > > > >> > > > > I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for> > > > > Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> > > > > different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you> > can> > > > > and then make up your own mind.> > > > >> > > > > One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels

> > > > tested> > > > > and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would> > > > > not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to

> > have> > > > > worked for me.> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >

> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

I might have the wrong, but I thought it was said on the iodine list that taking too little iodine can be a problem for Hashimoto's, but as long as you are taking highish doses, it won't be a problem.     The list owner says that her husband, cured his Hashimoto's, taking high doses of iodine.

The raising the dose of iodine until you feel awful is the raising of the dose of iodine until you start detoxing the halide, bromide and flouride in your body.    Some people sit at that dose and wait until they have detoxed and then raise the dose, and some people ease off until the detox symptoms go, then try raising again.    I did the latter.    

However, I guess if you felt great, perhaps that was the right dose for you.I've never noticed a change in how I feel just through iodine.     I expected to feel better on it but I didn't.    However, when I came off it, I felt worse, so it must have had a positive affect on how I felt but maybe it was sort of mixed in there with the other stuff I was taking.     It's the T3 that's made the first big, consistent change in how I feel.

I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above that I feel is too much.

This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

HTH,

~Bj

> > > > >

> > > > > This is what I found - different opinions on the iodine and NTH

> > lists. I

> > > > > only had low levels of antibodies, but decided to go with iodine. I

> > > > > couldn't say I noticed much improvement but then found out I have/had

> > a

> > > > > Reverse T3 issue. I started on cynomel (T3 only) and started noticing

> > a

> > > > > big improvement, for the first time. I read that iodine inhibits your

> > > > > Reverse T3 clearing and so stopped the iodine, but then experienced a

> > lot

> > > > of

> > > > > fatigue and just didn't feel so good anymore. I'm not sure whether it

> > was

> > > > > stopping the iodine or not, but I went back to iodine.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm still on 100mg of iodine per day and I cleared my Reverse T3

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > 12 week mark, so the iodine didn't have any great adverse affect on

> > doing

> > > > > so.

> > > > >

> > > > > I haven't had my antibodies checked again, but I've been feeling

> > pretty

> > > > good

> > > > > so I doubt that the iodine is adversely affecting them. Plus, I had a

> > > > > lot of symptoms, so I think I would have noticed, but they've mostly

> > gone

> > > > > now, which is great.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read that taking low levels of iodine can be a problem for

> > > > > Hashimoto's - that you need high levels. It is confusing with all the

> > > > > different information so I guess you just have to read as much as you

> > can

> > > > > and then make up your own mind.

> > > > >

> > > > > One thing that strongly influenced me was that I had my iodine levels

> > > > tested

> > > > > and they were very low. If they had not been so low, I probably would

> > > > > not have tried iodine due to my antibodies, but luckily it seems to

> > have

> > > > > worked for me.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

So you have Hashi's, BJ? And feel good on one tablet?

Very interesting! Because I'm anticipating that halide detox will be pretty

intense at low doses for me. Which means I wouldn't be able to take the high

doses they're recommending for Hashi's.

>

> Hi,

>

> I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of iodine

is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my

Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above

that I feel is too much.

>

> This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble with

supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this very

clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually

increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me,

while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and

then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed

there since, that was over four years ago.

>

> Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2

and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results

with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other

recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

>

> HTH,

> ~Bj

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Once you detox, you can go higher.    It's just that initially the more you take, the stronger your detox symptoms, so you need to wait until you clear out the bromide, flouride, etc. to be able to go to higher doses.      But I guess the issue is still whether or not you decide you only need small doses, or large doses.     And the sites seem to contradict each other e.g. iodine vs. RT3 group, which is why in the end you have to make up your own mind.

 

So you have Hashi's, BJ? And feel good on one tablet?

Very interesting! Because I'm anticipating that halide detox will be pretty intense at low doses for me. Which means I wouldn't be able to take the high doses they're recommending for Hashi's.

>

> Hi,

>

> I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above that I feel is too much.

>

> This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

>

> Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

>

> HTH,

> ~Bj

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Yes, I have Hashis. What I have learned over the past four years or so is that

anyone with thyroid inflammation from Hashis etc can find themselves quite

aggravated by high iodine and selenium, and inflammation tends to rise.

As always, the message is *Too much of any mineral or supplement can be a

problem.* How much is too much varies from individual to individual.

Amazingly, I was able to reduce my thyroid med significantly after dietary

changes - mainly going soy, gluten and dairy free.

Aside from keeping toxins at bay, iodine is needed for a smooth heartbeat. In

addition to the thyroid gland, our heart, muscles, skin, brain, breasts,

ovaries, and other glands and tissues are dependent on iodine. People who are

just depleted, chronically cold, depressed, obese, forgetful, chronically

fatigued, and old before their time probably need Iodine.

An elderly neighbor with Hashis got rid of her breast cancer with iodine after

refusing surgery and radiation. She says she wasn't surgery or

radiation-deficient. She has an iodine-deficiency disorder and the only way to

fix it to supplement with iodine, not to go under the knife and be nuked. She

is a real hero, I can only hope I will be as sreadfast and brave as she is if

something like this ever happens to me.

HTH,

~Bj

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of

iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased

my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above

that I feel is too much.

> >

> > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble

with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this

very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually

increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me,

while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and

then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed

there since, that was over four years ago.

> >

> > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2

and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results

with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other

recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

> >

> > HTH,

> > ~Bj

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Perhaps that is the theory by some. However, I could NOT tolerate any more than

one tablet of Iodoral daily, period. At a half tablet I dealt with the detox

symptoms and, as I previously mentioned, I used the appropriate supplements

(vitamins B2, B3, C, magnesium and selenium), and salt loading protocol to ease

those bad detoxifying symptoms. I have tried a few times to raise the amount

with the same bad reactive symptoms. For me this is insanity – trying the same

thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.

Also, considering that I eat zero sugar(except when I dine out), artificial

sweeteners, processed foods etc may account for my body's ability to utilize

less iodine more efficiently. We live as green as possible, in fact, We removed

all carpeting from our home and replaced certain fabrics and upholstery because

of my one son's biotoxin issues.

Overall Iodoral remains an exciting but volatile product with great potential

for good and ill. It is best used under *competent* supervision free of

grandiose claims that one maxi size cures all.

Best,

~Bj

> > >

> > > Hi,

> >

> > >

> > > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of

> > iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I

> > increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but

> > anything above that I feel is too much.

> > >

> > > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble

> > with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made

> > this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and

> > gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill,

> > like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I

> > felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one

> > tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

> > >

> > > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins

> > B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better

> > results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the

> > other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined

> > sea salt.

> > >

> > > HTH,

> > > ~Bj

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much. I've been on 200 mcg selenium for a few years (an ND's

recommendation). I think I'll try going off of it.

I have some colon & liver detoxing to do before I try iodine. And probably need

to take some iron.

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of

iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased

my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above

that I feel is too much.

> > >

> > > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble

with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this

very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually

increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me,

while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and

then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed

there since, that was over four years ago.

> > >

> > > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins

B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results

with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other

recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

> > >

> > > HTH,

> > > ~Bj

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks very much, . It's encouraging to know that BJ tolerated low doses of

iodine, despite having Hashi's. So at least I know not to dive in at 50 mg! I

think an iodine loading test would make me very sick from fluoride detox.

> > >

> > > Hi,

> >

> > >

> > > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of

> > iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I

> > increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but

> > anything above that I feel is too much.

> > >

> > > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble

> > with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made

> > this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and

> > gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill,

> > like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I

> > felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one

> > tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

> > >

> > > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins

> > B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better

> > results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the

> > other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined

> > sea salt.

> > >

> > > HTH,

> > > ~Bj

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bj,Yes, I'd love a doctor I could go to who could test me and tell me exactly what I needed, rather than do guess work myself, but at least I am feeling much much better and hopefully that will continue.    

I didn't use any sugar (now eat it once a week, sometimes once a fortnight in organic ice cream) and I don't have any artificial or processed food at all, and rarely have for years - maybe occasionally tomato sauce, but one without preservatives, that sort of thing.    I think it's 14 years since I ate junk food.   Very few toxins at all, especially now that we live in the country.     But I think for me, the reason I got the big detox symptoms, was all the tea I had been drinking for years.     I thought as long as it was organic and naturally low-caffeine, I was fine, and it was the one thing in my diet that I'd struggled to give up - I was drinking 8 - 10 cups a day on many days and apparently the natural flouride in tea will displace iodine in the body.    That probably accounts for my very low iodine levels.    I will probably look at lowering my dose in six months or so, and getting my iodine levels rechecked, but last time I gave up iodine I felt so bad that I went back to it again.

 

Hi ,

Perhaps that is the theory by some. However, I could NOT tolerate any more than one tablet of Iodoral daily, period. At a half tablet I dealt with the detox symptoms and, as I previously mentioned, I used the appropriate supplements (vitamins B2, B3, C, magnesium and selenium), and salt loading protocol to ease those bad detoxifying symptoms. I have tried a few times to raise the amount with the same bad reactive symptoms. For me this is insanity – trying the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result.

Also, considering that I eat zero sugar(except when I dine out), artificial sweeteners, processed foods etc may account for my body's ability to utilize less iodine more efficiently. We live as green as possible, in fact, We removed all carpeting from our home and replaced certain fabrics and upholstery because of my one son's biotoxin issues.

Overall Iodoral remains an exciting but volatile product with great potential for good and ill. It is best used under *competent* supervision free of grandiose claims that one maxi size cures all.

Best,

~Bj

> > >

> > > Hi,

> >

> > >

> > > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of

> > iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I

> > increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but

> > anything above that I feel is too much.

> > >

> > > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble

> > with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made

> > this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and

> > gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill,

> > like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I

> > felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one

> > tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

> > >

> > > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins

> > B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better

> > results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the

> > other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined

> > sea salt.

> > >

> > > HTH,

> > > ~Bj

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I will be easy with Iodine having hashimoto's I was losing lot of my hair even with my Tft's normal range until i read in the book from datis kharrazian it can give you alopecia as it trigers more autoimmune response.I have only seaweed on salads and some spirulina every now and then.M.To: Thyroiditis Sent: Wed, 9 February, 2011 11:23:40 AMSubject: Re: Hashimoto's and iodine?

So you have Hashi's, BJ? And feel good on one tablet?

Very interesting! Because I'm anticipating that halide detox will be pretty intense at low doses for me. Which means I wouldn't be able to take the high doses they're recommending for Hashi's.

>

> Hi,

>

> I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above that I feel is too much.

>

> This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

>

> Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

>

> HTH,

> ~Bj

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Iodine has been used for many years to help people with baldness re-grow their

hair among other things; alopecia usually has a heredity factor attacked to it.

Dr K seems to go out of his way to make his points about iodine, I read those

sections several times over the last year and his theory just does NOT make much

sense to me. In fact, I think he talks in a whirlwind contradicting himself.

For example, in the section: Iodine: throwing gasoline on a fire (pages 27-28),

he suggests a small amount of iodine consumption will cause a flare-up in our

Hashis by increasing thyroid hormone production, according to dr K even

consuming a little iodized salt causes AITD. He then goes on to say iodine

consumption in large amounts will shut down thyroid hormone production

suppressing hyperthyroid symptoms. What! (This makes me wonder if he is

advocating high doses of Iodoral for Graves' disease.)

What I do NOT see in dr K's book is that iodine and Se work together. The

selenium-containing enzyme *glutathione peroxidase* reduces hydrogen peroxide to

water after it oxidizes iodine. The oxidation process occurs through the

interaction of hydrogen peroxide with a thyroid enzyme called thyroid peroxidase

(TPO, not antiTPOabs). Abnormalities of the oxidation of iodine can cause

antiTPOabs thus Hashis.

Supplementing with iodine when iodine and selenium are both deficient is what

causes trouble and vise versa. If the thyroid is to work adequately both must be

in balance.

The bottom line, there are some wonderful ideas in d K's book for Hashis but

IMHO his viewpoint on iodine is flawed.

Best,

~Bj

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of

iodine

> >is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my

> >Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above

> >that I feel is too much.

> >

> >

> > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble

with

> >supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this

very

> >clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually

> >increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me,

> >while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful

and

> >then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have

stayed

> >there since, that was over four years ago.

> >

> >

> > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2

> >and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results

> >with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other

> >recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea

salt.

> >

> > HTH,

> > ~Bj

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,I lost nearly all my hair - that on my head and on my body - arms, legs, pubic, eyebrows, eyelashes.     That was before I started on iodine.     Giving up gluten seemed to help my hair grow back, but then I started on iodine and the nutrients for the iodine protocol and iron and my hair started doing even better.     I don't know if the iodine helped, but it didn't hurt it.      Apparently low iodine but also low iron can be factors in hair loss, along with insufficient thyroid and/or adrenal hormones.    

I was told by a few doctors that my hair loss was possibly an inherited condition and one even told me that it might not grow back again - but I didn't believe them because no female in my family has suffered any head hair loss, and no male has suffered major hair loss, only a small amount of male balding later in life.     My hair is fine now - a little thin in patches on my legs and still a little thin, but quite passable, near the temple areas on my head and my eyebrows are back to 3/4 length and will soon be full again.     Most of the improvement occurred by I started T3 but I think the T3 has also helped in that any white hair is now turning dark.     At this rate I should have a full head of dark hair, no white, by the time I'm 50!

 

 

> I will be easy with Iodine having hashimoto's I was losing lot of my hair even

> with my Tft's normal range until i read in the book from datis kharrazian it

> can give you alopecia as it trigers more autoimmune response.

> I have only seaweed on salads and some spirulina every now and then.

>

>

> M.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, , apparently you're my twin. I'm addicted to tea, and a few years ago I

switched from green to white tea. I've managed to get it down to 3 cups a day

now (from 7 or 8).

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount

> > of

> > > > iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I

> > > > increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps

> > but

> > > > anything above that I feel is too much.

> > > > >

> > > > > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into

> > trouble

> > > > with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc

> > made

> > > > this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts

> > and

> > > > gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one

> > pill,

> > > > like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase

> > until I

> > > > felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one

> > > > tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add

> > vitamins

> > > > B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even

> > better

> > > > results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take

> > the

> > > > other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and

> > unrefined

> > > > sea salt.

> > > > >

> > > > > HTH,

> > > > > ~Bj

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ha, ha.    I repeatedly got down to 4 or 5 cups, then would go back up again.     I got down to 2 or 3 cups a few times, then back up.     I've had about three months now where I only have one or two cups a week . . . until about three weeks ago and now I'm back to one or two a day.     It is such a struggle.     Giving up smoking wasn't nearly this hard!

 

Hi, , apparently you're my twin. I'm addicted to tea, and a few years ago I switched from green to white tea. I've managed to get it down to 3 cups a day now (from 7 or 8).

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount

> > of

> > > > iodine is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I

> > > > increased my Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps

> > but

> > > > anything above that I feel is too much.

> > > > >

> > > > > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into

> > trouble

> > > > with supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc

> > made

> > > > this very clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts

> > and

> > > > gradually increase over time. He said that some patients only need one

> > pill,

> > > > like me, while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase

> > until I

> > > > felt awful and then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one

> > > > tablet. I have stayed there since, that was over four years ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add

> > vitamins

> > > > B2 and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even

> > better

> > > > results with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take

> > the

> > > > other recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and

> > unrefined

> > > > sea salt.

> > > > >

> > > > > HTH,

> > > > > ~Bj

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,iodine use can be very confusing depending which book you read.The most important thing is your personal experience with it and that 's why we use this blog.Many doctors who write books and /or treat people don't have any idea what we have to go through to have a more normal life , technicality is one thing but personal experience is another thing.I agree with you some parts of his book are very messy maybe.CheersM.To: Thyroiditis Sent: Sat, 12 February, 2011 10:59:51 AMSubject: Re: Hashimoto's and iodine?

Hi ,

Iodine has been used for many years to help people with baldness re-grow their hair among other things; alopecia usually has a heredity factor attacked to it.

Dr K seems to go out of his way to make his points about iodine, I read those sections several times over the last year and his theory just does NOT make much sense to me. In fact, I think he talks in a whirlwind contradicting himself. For example, in the section: Iodine: throwing gasoline on a fire (pages 27-28), he suggests a small amount of iodine consumption will cause a flare-up in our Hashis by increasing thyroid hormone production, according to dr K even consuming a little iodized salt causes AITD. He then goes on to say iodine consumption in large amounts will shut down thyroid hormone production suppressing hyperthyroid symptoms. What! (This makes me wonder if he is advocating high doses of Iodoral for Graves' disease.)

What I do NOT see in dr K's book is that iodine and Se work together. The selenium-containing enzyme *glutathione peroxidase* reduces hydrogen peroxide to water after it oxidizes iodine. The oxidation process occurs through the interaction of hydrogen peroxide with a thyroid enzyme called thyroid peroxidase (TPO, not antiTPOabs). Abnormalities of the oxidation of iodine can cause antiTPOabs thus Hashis.

Supplementing with iodine when iodine and selenium are both deficient is what causes trouble and vise versa. If the thyroid is to work adequately both must be in balance.

The bottom line, there are some wonderful ideas in d K's book for Hashis but IMHO his viewpoint on iodine is flawed.

Best,

~Bj

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have never taken that much - 100mg. In fact, I believe the amount of iodine

> >is highly individualized, even Dr Brownstein stresses that. I increased my

> >Iodoral very slowly and found that one tablet really helps but anything above

> >that I feel is too much.

> >

> >

> > This could an area in which people in general and Hashis get into trouble with

> >supplementing with too high a dose of Iodoral. My biochemist doc made this very

> >clear to me and told me that I must begin with small amounts and gradually

> >increase over time. He said that some patients only need one pill, like me,

> >while others can take up to 4 or more. He had me increase until I felt awful and

> >then had me go back to where I felt great, which was one tablet. I have stayed

> >there since, that was over four years ago.

> >

> >

> > Also, more recent research by Dr. Brownstein says that if we add vitamins B2

> >and B3 into our daily vitamin regiment we will likely see even better results

> >with the oxidation and organification of iodine. I also, take the other

> >recommended supplements: Vitamin C, magnesium, selenium and unrefined sea salt.

> >

> > HTH,

> > ~Bj

> >

> >

> >

> >

>