Re: Peaks

[Guest guest]

I can only respond with what I did about peaks and control. I knew I

needed an average of under 125 to avoid damage. So where should you

peak? at that time my peaks were lasting 2-3 hours. I started at 150 and

gradually lowered them. 140, 130 120. Now I seldom exceed 120, and

myfasting sugars were 90-95. In the summer much lower 80 where I

normally feel hunger, and 64 where I usually get shocky. You set your

own goals with the end in mind.

Now I can't prove it, but in my case I thought even sugars improved my

eye damage. It seems harder to get sugar out of the eye than to get it

in. Sam

[Guest guest]

In other words the peak , " Goal " is 150% of fasting bg? Therefore if

fasting is say, 110 then target peak 1 hour later should be 72 - 160??

agree?

fp

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> I can only respond with what I did about peaks and control. I knew I

> needed an average of under 125 to avoid damage. So where should you

> peak? at that time my peaks were lasting 2-3 hours. I started at 150 and

> gradually lowered them. 140, 130 120. Now I seldom exceed 120, and

> myfasting sugars were 90-95. In the summer much lower 80 where I

> normally feel hunger, and 64 where I usually get shocky. You set your

> own goals with the end in mind.

> Now I can't prove it, but in my case I thought even sugars improved my

> eye damage. It seems harder to get sugar out of the eye than to get it

> in. Sam

[Guest guest]

I'm a little confised why you are tryijng to make a connection between

peaks and fasting. My fasting sugars tells me how well I did the

previous day. The peaks contribute to the average. Try reading it

again, don't think I'm that confusing, Sam

[Guest guest]

That's not the way I see it Sam...Fasting B/G tells you where you b/g is at

that moment, before eating(fasting). The peak tells you where your b/g is 1

hour after eating.

fp

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> I'm a little confised why you are tryijng to make a connection between

> peaks and fasting. My fasting sugars tells me how well I did the

> previous day. The peaks contribute to the average. Try reading it

> again, don't think I'm that confusing, Sam

[Guest guest]

For me the fasting reading tells me if I was in control the day before.

Try it and see. You haven;t eaten for hours, it's a question of whether

your system used up all the glucxose from the previous day. Check it

out. People told me a bad morning reading ruined their sugars all day.

Sam

The fasting reading is an important measure of overall success.

[Guest guest]

My apologies Sam, I just noticed you are not using an Insulin pump. With

that system the regimen is different.

fp

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> For me the fasting reading tells me if I was in control the day before.

> Try it and see. You haven;t eaten for hours, it's a question of whether

> your system used up all the glucxose from the previous day. Check it

> out. People told me a bad morning reading ruined their sugars all day.

> Sam

> The fasting reading is an important measure of overall success.

[Guest guest]

sorry, I didn't know. I think we should never take advice from the

" other camp " save in a general way. Sam

[Guest guest]

I just found this on the web. Sam

NEW YORK, Mar 04 (Reuters Health) -- Eating pasta, white bread,

potatoes, and other

rapidly digested " starchy " or " sugary " foods may lead to

overeating by triggering a hormonal state that convinces the body it is

still hungry, researchers report this month in the electronic version of

the journal Pediatrics.Dr. S. Ludwig of Tufts University in

Boston, Massachusetts, and colleagues offered 12 obese teenage boys

unlimited snacks several hours after giving them low-, medium-, or

high-starch meals.

The low-starch meal consisted of a vegetable omelet and fruit, the

medium was

unprocessed oatmeal, and the high-starch meal was processed " instant "

oatmeal.

All of the meals had the same number of calories.

The boys who had eaten the high-starch instant oatmeal ate 81% more

snacks than those who had eaten the low-starch omelet and fruit, the

researchers found.

The investigators also found that the blood sugar of these boys had

risen sharply and then crashed, triggering hunger.

More Americans are obese now than at any time in recorded history –

approximately 20% of children and more than 33% of adults. The

popularity of starchy foods may play a role, Ludwig's team notes.

Although more work needs to be done to determine the optimal healthy

diet, the study authors write that " this study suggests possible

advantages for treatment of obesity... with abundant quantities of

vegetables, legumes, and fruits; decreased amounts of... carbohydrates;

and moderate intake of protein and fats. "

SOURCE: Pediatrics 1999;103:e26.