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Lin, HealthCheck has the Thyroid II test (I can't remember if that's the

exact name, but go in there and look at their test lists), and it has TSH,

Free T3, and Free T4, which is unlike the other test on there, that has TSH

and the Totals tests. The first pkg (TSH, Free T3, Free T4) is $75.00 I

believe, and if you put the 12345 code in the box, you will be discounted a

little, I believe. There is a $12.00 handling fee also. It's worth it to

not be bewildered about where you stand (not that I'm not bewildered because

I need to go test again myself; so for me it's " put your money where your

mouth is, hehe!), even though you may need more or less than what your tests

show. When we're goofed up the way we are, we have to stick with that

testing, I say, about every 3 months or so, so that we can get to what we

need to be faster. This is one place that I just can't bring myself to be

doctor " yes-no " dependent anymore, considering that he/she is not walking

around in my body. If I run across a good thyroid doc who's not going to

cost a couple of paychecks (we have to eat, pay rent, etc...), then I surely

will go to him/her, as long as I don't have to buy a plane ticket to do it.

It is so frustrating, I know. My digestion is STILL so slow, that I

sometimes forget what it is that was sapping half my energy, until I finally

have a visit in the lady's room. No kidding, that can make you SOOO sick,

people don't realize how much.

Tx

hyper and hypo

> I am noticing some people are having the diahhrea with armour ??

> I have been on armour since March , with 3 different doses now. but so far

> no luck with diahhrea. I'd give anything for that about now. as I live on

> herbal lax 3-4 tablets per night. as when I went from hyper to hypo my

whole

> system slowed down. now nothing works :( I have motility disorder now too,

> where my stomach doesnt empty.

> when I was in my hyper stage, I had IBS symptoms, the diahhrea constant,

> couldnt eat anything unless I knew I was sitting next to a bathroom. 15

> min,. tops or I'd have a problem. I was losing weight fast and

effortlessly.

> I ate anything I wanted. I had energy and felt great... so I felt I could

> remain hyper minus the IBS and I'd be happy. but somewhere around 2 yrs

> ago..it changed. everything slowed down, no energy, no life. no apetite,

I

> need the laxatives now daily like vitamins..and that does not guarantee

> anything will work in the first 4 days anyhow.

> I lost my hair each time my TSH went up. this year in Jan-Mar I lost half

> my hair in big handfuls, when my TSH was above 9. when I got to 2 it was

> growning in and not losing it. but recently my TSH went up to 3.2 and my

> hair is falling out again, not in big handfuls, but at a steady and still

> alarming rate again.

> I seem to feel better under a 2, but the DR says I need to stay above a 2.

> but when it went to 3.2 the new DR increased my armour to 90 mg. I go back

> Jan. 10th for new TSH test and to let him know how I feel.

> I have a bit more energy, so I guess this is a good thing :)

> I am battling dry scalp horribly. I did buy some head n shoulders dry

scalp

> shampoo, and will try that. I have taken flax seed oil capsules for

years..

> but I cant say that it has done anything for me, nothing I can tell at

all.

> a long time ago I use to take cod liver oil, and had the thickest,

> smoothest, shiniest hair, people were always stopping me and asking me

about

> my hair.

> but since the thyroid problem.. well, now its dry, dull, lifeless, I spend

> more money on conditioning that shampooing.

> , I think it was you who mentioned my Free Ts'.. the results I posted

> the other day.. did you say one was low ?? or what ?? I am wondering if I

> should get that tested again before seeing the DR in jan. and if so, what

> should I ask him ??

> when I had those done in july, the DR told me I did not need to add

anything

> as armour had both in it. so she recommended not messing with the Free

T's.

> now I have a new DR, and am trying to make notes and be able to tell him

> what I think should be done or ask if I should add this or reduce that

etc.

> I use healthcheck USA, I know the TSH tests is only $23, but not sure what

> they charge for FreeT's. but do you think I should test that again, or

not

> worry about it since they say Armour has both and its balanced, I dont

want

> to spend $$ that I dont really need to. I am trying to go to them with

> some knowledge, but its not easy. I cant remember things half the time, so

I

> take notes from all you ladies... everyone seems to be so knowledgable and

> experienced in this... so any advice is welcomed :)

> Thanks all.

> Lin

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Many, so many it's ridiculous. One month I'm still eating bananas,

watermelons, and heaven knows what else, and two months down the road I'm

having a mild anaphylactic attack from them, rashes and racing sensations

and other weird symptoms, things I never had until thyroid problems. And I

love the breads. Now they're like eating an entire box of modelling clay as

they go into my intestines and sit there forever. I know better, it just

tastes SOOO good at the time!

Tx

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> My digestion is STILL so slow, that I

> >sometimes forget what it is that was sapping half my energy, until I

> finally

> >have a visit in the lady's room. No kidding, that can make you SOOO

> sick,

> >people don't realize how much.

> >

> >

> >Tx

>

> , quite by accident about 2 years ago I discovered that by

> eliminating yeast from my diet that my constipation eased

> dramatically - also the tummy bloating subsided.

> With no yeast I felt very restricted wrt wheat products (I've always

> loved breads!), however once I dropped the wheat as well as the yeast

> the weight started to drop of me and my digestive system started

> clearing like never before.

> Now, to my own demise, I succumb and always go back to the bread and

> the yeast (my taste buds sabotage me <g>) but when I do I feel like a

> slug with such a blocked sytstem and major bloating all over again

> (this also causes shocking back-aches).

>

> Ever sine I lost my thyroid function I have found myself sensitive to

> many foods that I previously enjoyed (milk *fat*, not lactose, is

> another odd one). Has anyone else found food sensitivities since

> hypothyroid?

>

> In Australia,

>

>

>

>

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My digestion is STILL so slow, that I

>sometimes forget what it is that was sapping half my energy, until I

finally

>have a visit in the lady's room. No kidding, that can make you SOOO

sick,

>people don't realize how much.

>

>

>Tx

, quite by accident about 2 years ago I discovered that by

eliminating yeast from my diet that my constipation eased

dramatically - also the tummy bloating subsided.

With no yeast I felt very restricted wrt wheat products (I've always

loved breads!), however once I dropped the wheat as well as the yeast

the weight started to drop of me and my digestive system started

clearing like never before.

Now, to my own demise, I succumb and always go back to the bread and

the yeast (my taste buds sabotage me <g>) but when I do I feel like a

slug with such a blocked sytstem and major bloating all over again

(this also causes shocking back-aches).

Ever sine I lost my thyroid function I have found myself sensitive to

many foods that I previously enjoyed (milk *fat*, not lactose, is

another odd one). Has anyone else found food sensitivities since

hypothyroid?

In Australia,

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Lin,

This may not make a difference for you... but one of the things that

really seemed to help my body shift was eating beans....

..... no laughter here, please.....

I used dry beans... Pintos, 'cause that's what was on sale....

Rinse them in cool water until the water runs off clean... then fill the

container with water to about 2 inches above the beans... let them soak

overnight... rinse well several times during the day for the next two

days.... the water will be a bit cloudy, rinse until the water runs

clear.....

When they are just about ready to sprout rinse one last time and then

cook them... just as you would any baked bean... you can add diced meats

and such too.....

The natural fiber and liquid in the beans really helped to get my body

back in sync... I went through several months were I just craved beans...

I had them with rice or pasta... diced meat... gravy.... all in a bowl...

and chowed them down at every meal.... it purged out my insides and

finally got me to a point where my insides could start working correctly

again...

When I was hyper I had the same diarrhea problems you did.... Then, after

the RAI and going hypo.... the opposite problem.. I dealt with that for

many years... I was still having a lot of problems after finally getting

on Natural thyroid.... but then that bean craving grabbed me... and that

seemed to do the trick....

The soaking encourages the beans to move from seed stage to sprout

stage.. it increases the protein level while reducing the carb level...

so fewer carb calories.... BUT, more important, it also changes the

enzymes needed to digest them and you don't have all the gas that

normally comes with eating beans... You'll still have some gas... and it

may be kind of 'potent' ... but when your body isn't cleaning out the way

it should... if you can find a method that will give it a boost in the

right direction to functioning as it should...... it's worth a shot.

If you start the beans on a Wednesday, after work... soak them

overnight.... rinse them before work, after work and before bed on

Thursday and Friday.. they'll be ready to cook first thing Saturday

morning and will be ready to eat by later afternoon.... if they aren't

agreeing with you aromatically..... it will hit you Sunday.... so you

won't be at work (assuming you do the Monday thru Friday type schedule)

and you can decide what to do from there.

I just made two big batches..... A 2 pound bag of beans, all cooked up...

makes 36 half cup servings. What I do now is scoop them into muffin

tins... so they are in half cup servings and then freeze them.... after

they are frozen.. you turn them upside down and run hot water on the

bottoms of the muffin cups and the beans will drop out in a clump.. then

just bag them up and you can grab a serving anytime you want..... if you

eat small amounts regularly your body will naturally build up the

bacteria in your intestinal tract to be able to digest the beans without

the gas problem... If you've heard of Beano tablets.. they are simply

introducing that bacteria to your gut so that you have less gas.

It may not be what your body needs to get itself balanced right.. but it

sure worked for me.....

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:21:24 -0600 " ~*Lin*~ "

writes:

> I am noticing some people are having the diahhrea with armour ??

> I have been on armour since March , with 3 different doses now. but

> so far

> no luck with diahhrea. I'd give anything for that about now. as I

> live on

> herbal lax 3-4 tablets per night. as when I went from hyper to hypo

> my whole

> system slowed down. now nothing works :( I have motility disorder

> now too,

> where my stomach doesnt empty.

> when I was in my hyper stage, I had IBS symptoms, the diahhrea

> constant,

> couldnt eat anything unless I knew I was sitting next to a bathroom.

> 15

> min,. tops or I'd have a problem. I was losing weight fast and

> effortlessly.

> I ate anything I wanted. I had energy and felt great... so I felt I

> could

> remain hyper minus the IBS and I'd be happy. but somewhere around

> 2 yrs

> ago..it changed. everything slowed down, no energy, no life. no

> apetite, I

> need the laxatives now daily like vitamins..and that does not

> guarantee

> anything will work in the first 4 days anyhow.

> I lost my hair each time my TSH went up. this year in Jan-Mar I

> lost half

> my hair in big handfuls, when my TSH was above 9. when I got to 2

> it was

> growning in and not losing it. but recently my TSH went up to 3.2

> and my

> hair is falling out again, not in big handfuls, but at a steady and

> still

> alarming rate again.

> I seem to feel better under a 2, but the DR says I need to stay

> above a 2.

> but when it went to 3.2 the new DR increased my armour to 90 mg. I

> go back

> Jan. 10th for new TSH test and to let him know how I feel.

> I have a bit more energy, so I guess this is a good thing :)

> I am battling dry scalp horribly. I did buy some head n shoulders

> dry scalp

> shampoo, and will try that. I have taken flax seed oil capsules for

> years..

> but I cant say that it has done anything for me, nothing I can tell

> at all.

> a long time ago I use to take cod liver oil, and had the thickest,

> smoothest, shiniest hair, people were always stopping me and asking

> me about

> my hair.

> but since the thyroid problem.. well, now its dry, dull, lifeless, I

> spend

> more money on conditioning that shampooing.

> , I think it was you who mentioned my Free Ts'.. the results I

> posted

> the other day.. did you say one was low ?? or what ?? I am wondering

> if I

> should get that tested again before seeing the DR in jan. and if so,

> what

> should I ask him ??

> when I had those done in july, the DR told me I did not need to add

> anything

> as armour had both in it. so she recommended not messing with the

> Free T's.

> now I have a new DR, and am trying to make notes and be able to tell

> him

> what I think should be done or ask if I should add this or reduce

> that etc.

> I use healthcheck USA, I know the TSH tests is only $23, but not

> sure what

> they charge for FreeT's. but do you think I should test that again,

> or not

> worry about it since they say Armour has both and its balanced, I

> dont want

> to spend $$ that I dont really need to. I am trying to go to them

> with

> some knowledge, but its not easy. I cant remember things half the

> time, so I

> take notes from all you ladies... everyone seems to be so

> knowledgable and

> experienced in this... so any advice is welcomed :)

> Thanks all.

> Lin

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