Re: Another question......

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> << Would you please share with me what you like for breakfast? >>

>

> 4 fried eggs, 4 slices of bacon, 1 oz of cream cheese stuffed into some

celery

Meni!

*drool* I really can eat all that????? YIPPEE!!! LOL!

anne

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In a message dated 10/19/2000 12:04:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

whimsy2@... writes:

> , breakfast is the most problematic meal for most of us '

It sure is for me, I worked nights for many years and I don't feel hungry in

the morning at all, ar eal problem, even less hungry after exercise.

I don't even start eating most days til 3 or 4pm. thats why I don't have a

problem with lc, I never got into breakfast food.

carol

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Sheila, don't worry so much about lo fat, worry about low carb. Even low fat

tortillas are pretty high carb - unless you can find the low-carb kind (yes,

there is such a thing!) You need to start reading labels.

Also, for carb (and everything else) counts, try this website - it's all

there:

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

It's the USDA website. Vicki

In a message dated 00-10-19 16:43:04 EDT, you write:

<<

I also think I would enjoy having a low fat, wheat tortilla, with a

little melted cheese on it, under the broiler. With a piece of fruit.

I often have 1/2 C of fz. blackberries with bf. Are they much higher in

carbs than strawberries? What about grapefruit?

I sure have a lot of questions. I appreciate all of the patience you

have with them, and me!

>>

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Also re books...I find Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution by K.

Bernstein much more informative than the ADA books. ADA publications don't

mention anything at all about low carbing as a way to control diabetes; as a

matter of fact, their publicatios are generally full of high-carb recipes.

Vicki

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I dunno...for weight control you might want to keep it down to 2 eggs and 2

slices of bacon... skip the creamcheese... (Meni, can you really lose weight

on that?) Vicki

In a message dated 00-10-19 19:34:29 EDT, you write:

<< << Would you please share with me what you like for breakfast? >>

>

> 4 fried eggs, 4 slices of bacon, 1 oz of cream cheese stuffed into some

celery

Meni!

*drool* I really can eat all that????? YIPPEE!!! LOL!

anne

>>

[Guest guest]

> Are you on meds? lf milk is like drinking sugar for me and most

> diabetics.

> Do you test after your bf? I eat eggs mixed with sausage, or chorizo.

> Bacon has sugar in it so I dont usually have it .

>

> sharon

>

Hi, again, Sharon. Yes, I am on 1500 mg of glucophage per day. My dr.

doesn't have me doing blood tests, yet. I am in the process of losing

my insurance coverage. New coverage will be available to me, effective

1/1/01 At that time I will get something to test with. My dr. had told

me that only " brittle diabetics " need to test, but I can " if I want

to " . Only now am I getting the message that regular testing is

important! Arrrrgggghhhh.

I can't handle sausage, or chorizo, anymore. Upsets my tummy. Have you

tried turkey bacon? I talked with a woman at the diabetes classes, who

said it tastes like real bacon, but it is lc. I don't know about the

sugar content. Do we have a limit on sugar intake? If there is one, I

don't know what it is????

Sheila {:-D

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Hi, Vicki. Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate you taking the time

to answer my questions. WOW! For years I have avoided eating eggs!

Now, them seem to be good for me, again! {:-D Times sure do change!!

Yes, I do have a kitchen scale that measures in grams. I hadn't thought

of getting it out and using it! {:-D I got it when I was doing Weight

Watchers years ago. I also joined the ADA, and purchased some books.

Yesterday, I heard they were shipped. So, UPS will probably deliver

them by this weekend.

I also think I would enjoy having a low fat, wheat tortilla, with a

little melted cheese on it, under the broiler. With a piece of fruit.

I often have 1/2 C of fz. blackberries with bf. Are they much higher in

carbs than strawberries? What about grapefruit?

I sure have a lot of questions. I appreciate all of the patience you

have with them, and me!

Sheila {:-D

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/19/2000 4:34:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

kanga2@... writes:

<< > 4 fried eggs, 4 slices of bacon, 1 oz of cream cheese stuffed into some

celery

Meni!

*drool* I really can eat all that????? YIPPEE!!! LOL!

anne

>>

OOPS, this morning when cooking breakfast I noticed I eat 3 eggs not 4 but I

still eat the 4 slices of bacon, and the cream cheese with celery.

Meniowl@...

type2,dx7/99,low-carbs & water walking

(last A1c 5.3) Normal range 4.8-6.0

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OK " brittle diabetics " is a new term to me to whom are they referring to?

sharon who believe it or not was an Elnglish major

Re: Another question......

> Are you on meds? lf milk is like drinking sugar for me and most

> diabetics.

> Do you test after your bf? I eat eggs mixed with sausage, or chorizo.

> Bacon has sugar in it so I dont usually have it .

>

> sharon

>

Hi, again, Sharon. Yes, I am on 1500 mg of glucophage per day. My dr.

doesn't have me doing blood tests, yet. I am in the process of losing

my insurance coverage. New coverage will be available to me, effective

1/1/01 At that time I will get something to test with. My dr. had told

me that only " brittle diabetics " need to test, but I can " if I want

to " . Only now am I getting the message that regular testing is

important! Arrrrgggghhhh.

I can't handle sausage, or chorizo, anymore. Upsets my tummy. Have you

tried turkey bacon? I talked with a woman at the diabetes classes, who

said it tastes like real bacon, but it is lc. I don't know about the

sugar content. Do we have a limit on sugar intake? If there is one, I

don't know what it is????

Sheila {:-D

[Guest guest]

Sheila can you buy yourself carbyhodrate counter book of some kind than you

can find counts for yourself or are you looking for low glycemic foods than

go to Rick's website. Sam why dont you give her a url for carb counts.

sharon

Re: Another question......

Hi, Vicki. Thanks for your feedback. I appreciate you taking the time

to answer my questions. WOW! For years I have avoided eating eggs!

Now, them seem to be good for me, again! {:-D Times sure do change!!

Yes, I do have a kitchen scale that measures in grams. I hadn't thought

of getting it out and using it! {:-D I got it when I was doing Weight

Watchers years ago. I also joined the ADA, and purchased some books.

Yesterday, I heard they were shipped. So, UPS will probably deliver

them by this weekend.

I also think I would enjoy having a low fat, wheat tortilla, with a

little melted cheese on it, under the broiler. With a piece of fruit.

I often have 1/2 C of fz. blackberries with bf. Are they much higher in

carbs than strawberries? What about grapefruit?

I sure have a lot of questions. I appreciate all of the patience you

have with them, and me!

Sheila {:-D

Public website for Diabetes International:

http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int

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Sharon wrote:

<< OK " brittle diabetics " is a new term to me to whom are they referring

to? >>

It's an older term that has fallen out of favor. In modern times, we instead

refer to them as " diabetics who haven't yet found the right treatment

method. " They're up; they're down ... they're all over the place. They're

clueless. This can usually be traced to poor prescribing, such as incorrect

insulin types and timing; to lack of knowledge, especially about the

importance of diet; and inadequate testing and recordkeeping.

Susie

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Sharon wrote:

<< Sam why dont you give her a url for carb counts. >>

I did, but I don't know how many of my posts of the past few days drifted

off into the ether. Someone already provided the USDA web site URL, and

here's free software for Windows: http://www.siestasoftware.com

Susie

[Guest guest]

Sheila, per request here is a simple carb counter. Sorry mail was out

all day, Sam

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1617/carbohydrate_chart.html

[Guest guest]

Sheila, I sent you this for carb count

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1617/carbohydrate_chart.html

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> 4 fried eggs, 4 slices of bacon, 1 oz of cream cheese stuffed into some

>celery

>Meni!

>*drool* I really can eat all that????? YIPPEE!!! LOL!

>anne

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> OK " brittle diabetics " is a new term to me to whom are they referring

> to?

>

> sharon who believe it or not was an Elnglish major

> ----- Original Message -----

>

Hi, Sharon. I asked my dr to define it. He said it refers to diabetics

whose blood sugar jumps up and down, drastically.

Sheila {:-D

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Sharon, I think I ordered a carb counter from the ADA. At least that is

what I thought I was ordering. If it isn't one, I will go to the local

book store and look for one. I am reading labels, now! Just threw out

a new loaf of Ora Wheat, 7 grain bread. The label said it has 18 carbs

per slice! I have another one, with only 13 grams for 2 slices.

Sheila {:-D

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Sam!

Sheila {:-D

E Levy wrote:

> Sheila, per request here is a simple carb counter. Sorry mail was out

> all day, Sam

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1617/carbohydrate_chart.html

>

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> Public website for Diabetes International:

> http://www.msteri.com/diabetes-info/diabetes_int

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[Guest guest]

Sheila, a pretty good book for counting carbs is the Complete Book of Food

Counts by Corinne Netzer. It's in paperback. It's really thick and a huge

percentage of stuff in it is information about " junk foods " which we really

should avoid anyway. I still think the USDA website has the best carb info

(URL given yesterday - if you need it again let me know). And it's free.

Vicki

In a message dated 00-10-20 00:57:16 EDT, you write:

<<

Sharon, I think I ordered a carb counter from the ADA. At least that is

what I thought I was ordering. If it isn't one, I will go to the local

book store and look for one. I am reading labels, now! Just threw out

a new loaf of Ora Wheat, 7 grain bread. The label said it has 18 carbs

per slice! I have another one, with only 13 grams for 2 slices. >>

[Guest guest]

Sheila said:

<< Hi, Sharon. I asked my dr to define it. He said it refers to diabetics

whose blood sugar jumps up and down, drastically. >>

.... because their medical team is not treating their disease appropriately.

Susie

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I think it was on this list someone mentioned that she avoided dawn rise by

having a few bite of a cheese slice, thereby fooling the body into thinking a

meal was there. Well, I tried it this weekend...sorry, it didn't work that

way for me. Took BG immediately on rising, had a few bites of a cheese slice,

checked 45 minutes later and BG had risen anyway, from 95 to 126. Well, I

guess it's just one of those YMMV things...Vicki

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In a message dated 00-10-21 11:26:49 EDT, you write:

<< . I had an 8 oz. glass of V8 with it. Sure did tate good to me.

> >>

Sheila, did you check your BG 1 and 2 hours after meal? Most of us find that

juices -- fruit or veggie -- raise 'em...I've just about given up juices of

any kind. On the other hand, most cheeses are just fine. Vicki