Re: OT: Advisory Panel Urges U.S. to Conduct Controversial Anthrax Vaccine Trial in Children

[Guest guest]

> We are now starting clinical trials for addiction vaccines. Would U submit

your children to these trials? Why or why not? I ask because I am doing a

paper of vaccines and autism, but vaccine safety is the general piece of my

article.

I have never had any children. However, if I did, I would not " submit " them to

*any* clinical

trials, unless they had a chronic or fatal disease - not because of the

conspiracy theories

about vaccinations.

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[Guest guest]

Mark A. wrote:

> I have never had any children. However, if I did, I would not " submit " them to

*any* clinical

> trials, unless they had a chronic or fatal disease - not because of the

conspiracy theories

> about vaccinations.

I feel much the same, Mark. The priorities of the FDA and Big Pharma

are slanted in favor of business, not the health of the patient. If you

have any doubt, just take a look at some of the drugs that quickly came

to market in recent years. Drugs with enough disabling side effects to

make PI lawyers very very rich.

If I had a chronic or fatal disease and was really desperate, I would

take the risk and willingly become a " guinea pig " for a new drug or

vaccine that offered hope.

Otherwise, I would prefer to wait a few years and see how the product

fares in the marketplace before getting on board myself.

Best,

~CJ

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[Guest guest]

> Why?

:

Do you mean, why wouldn't I submit my (hypothetical) children to vaccine trials?

I could not

imagine subjecting any child to risk unless there were no other options.

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Regards, Mark A. , Ph.D. * http://www.markfoster.net

http://five.bahaifaith.info + http://kingdoms.bahaifaith.info

[Guest guest]

> Otherwise, I would prefer to wait a few years and see how the product

> fares in the marketplace before getting on board myself.

Whenever I think of clinical trials, I remember the famous Tuskegee Institute

(now Tuskegee

University) syphilis studies. They actually gave black males syphilis in order

to see how the

disease progressed:

http://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

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Regards, Mark A. , Ph.D. * http://www.markfoster.net

http://five.bahaifaith.info + http://kingdoms.bahaifaith.info

[Guest guest]

If I had children, I would have my kids vaccinated, on a single thread basis. None of this give a whole mess at once; give one at a time, with just the normal ones combined (like DPT). Not sure about field trials though...would have to be for something they were at risk of. ~ "Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal."--Albert Camus Sent from my VZW BlackBerrySender: aspires-relationships Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:43:59 -0500To: Newland; aspires-relationships <aspires-relationships >; aspires-relationships <aspires-relationships >ReplyTo: aspires-relationships Subject: Re: OT: Advisory Panel Urges U.S. to ConductControversial Anthrax Vaccine Trial in Children > Why?:Do you mean, why wouldn't I submit my (hypothetical) children to vaccine trials? I could not imagine subjecting any child to risk unless there were no other options.--Regards, Mark A. , Ph.D. * http://www.markfoster.nethttp://five.bahaifaith.info + http://kingdoms.bahaifaith.info

[Guest guest]

> If I had children, I would have my kids vaccinated, on a single thread basis.

None of this give a whole mess

at once; give one at a time, with just the normal ones combined (like DPT). Not

sure about field trials though...

would have to be for something they were at risk of.<

I agree - just not the clinical " trials. " I would let them " try " on someone

else.

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Regards, Mark A. , Ph.D. * http://www.markfoster.net

http://five.bahaifaith.info + http://kingdoms.bahaifaith.info

[Guest guest]

> Hmmm? Should parents have concerns about vaccines?

Of course, there is no way to be sure about anything. I look up everything and

try to rely upon

the best current science available.

However, " Coca-Cola " (or Coke) was originally named after the cocaine added to

the cola.

They also used to routinely x-ray a customer's feet in order to get the shoe

size right (without

any lead protection for the salesperson).

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Regards, Mark A. , Ph.D. * http://www.markfoster.net

http://five.bahaifaith.info + http://kingdoms.bahaifaith.info

[Guest guest]

Mark A. wrote:

> Whenever I think of clinical trials, I remember the famous Tuskegee Institute

(now Tuskegee

> University) syphilis studies. They actually gave black males syphilis in order

to see how the

> disease progressed:

>

> http://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

Another infamous example that occurred more recently....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kano_trovafloxacin_trial_litigation

On a related note, Big Pharma has a long checkered history of 'dumping'

bad drugs and vaccines (rejected by industrialized nations) on the less

sophisticated developing world, where people are often poor, uneducated,

and without a voice.

Best,

~CJ

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