Re: Here is what came from my inqury....

[Guest guest]

Hi Joy,

Some thoughts and ideas are to find real examples of the turnarounds,

if they are true for you, to lock them in with you.

Also, some other places to investigate / explore could be:

I have to struggle because.....

If I don't struggle .......

My life has been a struggle because....

And do The Work on the statements coming out of these.

With love,

Jon

http://www.selfhappiness.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Joy,

Your life has been one of CONSTANT struggle and difficulty.

Every single day of your life has been a struggle and difficult?

Every single second of your life?

Is that true?

I have done The Work on my stepson and boy I was soo sure that I was right:

" He always wants or needs something! "

YES!

ALWAYS?

Ok, no not always. Sometimes he just watches tv or plays his game. At night

he sleeps. During the day he is in school. Sometimes we snuggle. Sometimes

we joke. Sometimes ... When I stopped and got really honest, I got a little

crack into that belief. And from there I could work with it and find some

peace.

---

www.TheWorkForBreakfast.com

<http://www.theworkforbreakfast.com>On Dec 2, 2007 4:45 PM, joyshechinah <

adamatova@...> wrote:

> " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and difficultiy "

>

> IIT? Yes, it is.

>

> Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

>

> How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very hopeless.

> Without vitality.

>

> Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful. I would

> be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax. Be able

> to laugh and be free.

>

> Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

>

> TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> difficulty.

>

> My entire life has been one of constant ease.

>

> Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty. Part has

> been of ease.

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> thoughts?

> ideas?

>

> blessings - joy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

TA ~ My thinking about my life has been a struggle and difficult,

sometimes.

>

> " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and difficultiy "

>

> IIT? Yes, it is.

>

> Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

>

> How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very hopeless.

> Without vitality.

>

> Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful. I would

> be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax. Be able

> to laugh and be free.

>

> Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

>

>

> TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> difficulty.

>

> My entire life has been one of constant ease.

>

> Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty. Part has

> been of ease.

>

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> thoughts?

> ideas?

>

> blessings - joy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Good points and much appreciated. I search for moments of reprieve in

my memory and even sleep is fitful, not one of peaceful rest. My own

skin seems to be at war with my inner self. Tugging and putting me in

a state of struggle and conflict. Maybe when I lost consciousness at

the time of my son's birth, there was no struggle. I can't be sure

because I have no memory of that. Maybe there was surrender on the

part of the body and my soul just took over at that point.

So - hmm.

Do I absolutely know that my life has been a constant struggle to be

true?

No. I honestly don't know.

Joy

>

> > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and

difficultiy "

> >

> > IIT? Yes, it is.

> >

> > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> >

> > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very hopeless.

> > Without vitality.

> >

> > Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful. I

would

> > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax. Be

able

> > to laugh and be free.

> >

> > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

> >

> > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> > difficulty.

> >

> > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> >

> > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty. Part has

> > been of ease.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > thoughts?

> > ideas?

> >

> > blessings - joy

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There's another turn around in there that has to do with contancy...I

just haven't located it yet. Thanks for reminding me that I

need to inquire further.

Joy

> >

> > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and difficultiy "

> >

> > IIT? Yes, it is.

> >

> > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> >

> > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very hopeless.

> > Without vitality.

> >

> > Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful. I

would

> > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax. Be

able

> > to laugh and be free.

> >

> > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

> >

> >

> > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> > difficulty.

> >

> > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> >

> > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty. Part

has

> > been of ease.

> >

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > thoughts?

> > ideas?

> >

> > blessings - joy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

you could question my life should not be a constant struggle and

difficulty..

is it true yes

absolutley can we know what is best for our path

no

how do i react

i hate my life

without the thought im ok

TA my life should be a constant struggle and difficulty

1 with my thoughts yes

2 On this planet there is a lot of delusion Lies are the norm..

is that true.. well seems like it sometimes.

so naturally you might find it a struggle..

TA my thinking creates constant struggle and difficulty.

I think some feel this planet is really hell though for katie

and eckart and some its heaven always.

i have thought my life was a struggle also.. but in reality

ive had a very easy life.

i just thought it should be different sometimes.. and in

that i created depression.

its weird because ssometimes i think my life has been too easy..

since discovering katie.

like ive had nothing to over come or accomplish..

i read some where i think it was ron hubbard that

happiness is overcoming difficulties or accomplishing goals..

My life has been too easy is that true..

For years i thought my life was hard.. and now my new story is its too

easy.. both argue with reality..

absolutly true its too easy

no

how do i react.. like i should be improving more. & i should have goals.

envy of others.. who have trials and grow from them.

thinking i should progress more

that im stuck and not changing.

envious of people who have better jobs but i have a fear

of trying anything like that.

i have a fear of trying anything new

critical of myself.

without the thought.. its ok i have an easy life..

accepting where i am now.

TA my life is not too easy

i have lived through extreme depression

Ive worked all my life

I have to find a new job in jan.

TA life is hard and easy

depending on your state of mind.

accepting or arguing with reality ..

And sometimes it is hard and sometimes easy

TA Life is always easy

if you dont argue with reality

says we dont even have to breathe we are being breathed.

breathing is all that is necessary

TA my thinking is life is hard and soemtimes my thinking is

its easy..

TA life is not too easy or too hard.

it just is.

michaels turnaround my thinking about my life

has been a struggle and difficult sometimes.

even when i think its been too easy

maybe i just feel i need a problem..

once you have an idenity of the poor victim.. you need proof to

keep that story.. i speak for myself really not you..

i have been playing that story for many

years.. to see how easy its been .. i lose my idenity of the

victim.. so i find ways to make it hard.

i should blah blah.. i cant etc..

keeps my identity.. of the victim and failure.

You might want to try making a gratitude list .

and maybe not i should ...actually..

thanks roslyn

-- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

>

>

> TA ~ My thinking about my life has been a struggle and difficult,

> sometimes.

>

>

> >

> > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and difficultiy "

> >

> > IIT? Yes, it is.

> >

> > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> >

> > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very hopeless.

> > Without vitality.

> >

> > Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful. I would

> > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax. Be able

> > to laugh and be free.

> >

> > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

> >

> >

> > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> > difficulty.

> >

> > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> >

> > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty. Part has

> > been of ease.

> >

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > thoughts?

> > ideas?

> >

> > blessings - joy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

There is nothing wrong with someone always wanting something. It is human.

You can just say no.

nel, finding out that " no " Is a good answer.

" Jandke " wrote:

>

> Hi Joy,

>

> Your life has been one of CONSTANT struggle and difficulty.

>

> Every single day of your life has been a struggle and difficult?

> Every single second of your life?

>

> Is that true?

>

> I have done The Work on my stepson and boy I was soo sure that I was

right:

>

> " He always wants or needs something! "

>

> YES!

>

> ALWAYS?

>

> Ok, no not always. Sometimes he just watches tv or plays his game.

At night

> he sleeps. During the day he is in school. Sometimes we snuggle.

Sometimes

> we joke. Sometimes ... When I stopped and got really honest, I got a

little

> crack into that belief. And from there I could work with it and find

some

> peace.

>

>

>

> ---

> www.TheWorkForBreakfast.com

>

> <http://www.theworkforbreakfast.com>On Dec 2, 2007 4:45 PM,

joyshechinah <

> adamatova@...> wrote:

>

> > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and difficultiy "

> >

> > IIT? Yes, it is.

> >

> > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> >

> > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very hopeless.

> > Without vitality.

> >

> > Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful. I would

> > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax. Be able

> > to laugh and be free.

> >

> > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

> >

> > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> > difficulty.

> >

> > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> >

> > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty. Part has

> > been of ease.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > thoughts?

> > ideas?

> >

> > blessings - joy

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My life is a constant struggle - is it true - yes. Then that's the

reality. How do I know this to be true - because it is. It's a myth

that life needs to be easy and not a constant struggle. The

experience can be one of meeting the challenge that the struggle

presents with a different approach. Like *bring it on!*? Or maybe

this is going to be needing all my wits, aren't I fortunate to have

been given the necessary tools to contend with the challenge?

Hm.

joy

> > >

> > > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and

difficultiy "

> > >

> > > IIT? Yes, it is.

> > >

> > > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> > >

> > > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very

hopeless.

> > > Without vitality.

> > >

> > > Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful. I

would

> > > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax. Be

able

> > > to laugh and be free.

> > >

> > > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

> > >

> > >

> > > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> > > difficulty.

> > >

> > > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> > >

> > > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty. Part

has

> > > been of ease.

> > >

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > > thoughts?

> > > ideas?

> > >

> > > blessings - joy

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

HI,

I think someone else suggested this, but here goes again. I'd take a little

different approach to My life is a constant struggle.

Is it true: no, because there are at least moments when it is not a struggle.

Constant to me means all the time, every second. No one's life is a struggle

every single second. So even if your life feels like a struggle most of the

time, it is still not constant.

If you accept that as true then go on and ask yourself, What do I get out of

believing my life is a constant struggle?

For me, the answer would be something like " I feel a heavy weight; I feel

depressed; I feel joyless; I feel there is no use in trying. " Your answers might

be very different. Answer for yourself.

Then ask, how would I feel if I no longer believed My life is a constant

struggle?

Take in the answers and try to go inside and see how it would feel to not

believe your life is a constant struggle, which we know it isn't.

This doesn't mean that all your struggles will magically end. It simply means

that if you drop the story My life is a constant struggle you will then have an

opportunity to have at first small moments and hopefully later more and more

time when you can live in the space of what your life is like without constant

struggle.

good luck

Vivian

Re: Here is what came from my inqury....

My life is a constant struggle - is it true - yes. Then that's the

reality. How do I know this to be true - because it is. It's a myth

that life needs to be easy and not a constant struggle. The

experience can be one of meeting the challenge that the struggle

presents with a different approach. Like *bring it on!*? Or maybe

this is going to be needing all my wits, aren't I fortunate to have

been given the necessary tools to contend with the challenge?

Hm.

joy

> > >

> > > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and

difficultiy "

> > >

> > > IIT? Yes, it is.

> > >

> > > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> > >

> > > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very

hopeless.

> > > Without vitality.

> > >

> > > Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful. I

would

> > > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax. Be

able

> > > to laugh and be free.

> > >

> > > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

> > >

> > >

> > > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> > > difficulty.

> > >

> > > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> > >

> > > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty. Part

has

> > > been of ease.

> > >

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > > thoughts?

> > > ideas?

> > >

> > > blessings - joy

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Q - Can I absolutely know for certain that every second of my life

has been a struggle?

A - No. I can't.

Q - What is the payoff for thinking/believing that my entire life has

been a struggle?

A - That I stay invisible, voiceless, powerless and isolated.

Q - Can I think of one reason to let go of this belief/thought,

although it's not being asked of me...?

A - Yes.

Q - Who would I be if I let go of this belief/thought that my entire

life has been a struggle?

A - I would be me. I would live up to my name fully. I would realize

my self.

joy

> > > >

> > > > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and

> difficultiy "

> > > >

> > > > IIT? Yes, it is.

> > > >

> > > > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> > > >

> > > > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very

> hopeless.

> > > > Without vitality.

> > > >

> > > > Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful.

I

> would

> > > > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax.

Be

> able

> > > > to laugh and be free.

> > > >

> > > > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> > > > difficulty.

> > > >

> > > > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> > > >

> > > > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty.

Part

> has

> > > > been of ease.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > >

> > > > thoughts?

> > > > ideas?

> > > >

> > > > blessings - joy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good work. Hope that felt good inside. Now you can glimpse the possibilities

that the Work holds out to you if you are willing to drop some beliefs you have.

Vivian

Re: Here is what came from my inqury....

Q - Can I absolutely know for certain that every second of my life

has been a struggle?

A - No. I can't.

Q - What is the payoff for thinking/believing that my entire life has

been a struggle?

A - That I stay invisible, voiceless, powerless and isolated.

Q - Can I think of one reason to let go of this belief/thought,

although it's not being asked of me...?

A - Yes.

Q - Who would I be if I let go of this belief/thought that my entire

life has been a struggle?

A - I would be me. I would live up to my name fully. I would realize

my self.

joy

> > > >

> > > > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and

> difficultiy "

> > > >

> > > > IIT? Yes, it is.

> > > >

> > > > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> > > >

> > > > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very

> hopeless.

> > > > Without vitality.

> > > >

> > > > Who would I be without that thought? I would be successful.

I

> would

> > > > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would relax.

Be

> able

> > > > to laugh and be free.

> > > >

> > > > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought? no.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle and

> > > > difficulty.

> > > >

> > > > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> > > >

> > > > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty.

Part

> has

> > > > been of ease.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > >

> > > > thoughts?

> > > > ideas?

> > > >

> > > > blessings - joy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Vivian,

Realizing that not every moment is a struggle is a good place to

start. There's a lot of undoing and unraveling to do. Beliefs - what

are they again?

Thanks for the input,

Joy

> > > > >

> > > > > " My entire life has been one of constant struggle and

> > difficultiy "

> > > > >

> > > > > IIT? Yes, it is.

> > > > >

> > > > > Am I sure it's true? Yes, I am sure.

> > > > >

> > > > > How do I react to that thought? I feel very sad. Very

> > hopeless.

> > > > > Without vitality.

> > > > >

> > > > > Who would I be without that thought? I would be

successful.

> I

> > would

> > > > > be at ease. I would be secure. I would flow. I would

relax.

> Be

> > able

> > > > > to laugh and be free.

> > > > >

> > > > > Is there a stress-free reason to hold onto that thought?

no.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > TA: My entire life hasn't been one of constant struggle

and

> > > > > difficulty.

> > > > >

> > > > > My entire life has been one of constant ease.

> > > > >

> > > > > Part of my life has been one of struggle and difficulty.

> Part

> > has

> > > > > been of ease.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > > >

> > > > > thoughts?

> > > > > ideas?

> > > > >

> > > > > blessings - joy

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Jon,

Awesome. How astute and right on. Good angle I haven't hit on, on my

own. Now will contemplate. See how this feels for a while. Gosh.

joy

>

> Hi Joy,

>

> Some thoughts and ideas are to find real examples of the

turnarounds,

> if they are true for you, to lock them in with you.

>

> Also, some other places to investigate / explore could be:

>

> I have to struggle because.....

>

> If I don't struggle .......

>

> My life has been a struggle because....

>

> And do The Work on the statements coming out of these.

>

> With love,

>

> Jon

> http://www.selfhappiness.com

>