Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 you cant kick a ball or yell.. youll scare the sheep.. once you write on here .. everyone answers.. but you dont have to agree or read the stuff.. you could do the work on your neighbor or their sheep.. sheep should not poop is it true.? im trying to be funny.. i would be annoyed if i could smell that also.. sorry, roslyn > > > > Unloading on others frees up your energy. Is that true? > > > > A - It may be true as in the instance where throwing a tantrum takes > > the edge off an unbearably tight feeling in the chest. It may feel > > good to displace anger ordinarily directed at self onto another, > > thereby freeing up some space within to gloat and feel smug and > > superior. It may feel empowering to unload onto another, giving them > > a part of your high and mighty knowledge and wisdom about how things > > need to be. Ultimately, I think it's not true, it's a farce, it's > > fake, it's a ploy by the ego, where for a moment you gain temporary > > strength, but in the long run, you get left by the curb, because > > after a while people get hip to your BS. > > > > TA - Unloading on others doesn't free up your energy > > Unloading on yourself frees up your energy > > Unloading on others frees up your energy > > Unloading on yourself doesn't free up your energy. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Dearest Joy This is a group of people helping each other. Not superficial help like trying to share other people's pain. Not feeling sorry for others and in that somehow reassure ourselves that we are better off than them. Not being a sympathetic audience for people's problems. We are a group where honesty prevails (most of the time :-)), we get down and dirty into the real issues, rather than trying to molly coddle people and support their ongoing stories. We all know the extent and eloborateness of our own stories, we recognise our own stories in whatever anyone else shares. We have all been in enough pain to have said: No more, I have had enough, I want to be free. We have had glimpses of the freedom that lies beneath our stories. Just glancing through your posts, I see you have as many stories as the rest of us: - People shouldn't tell me what is right - It is 's fault that I dropped my enquiry - is negative - My family should be free - People shouldn't give feedback unless I ask them - I shouldn't be bleeding - I shouldn't be menopausal (well, I can almost share your pain here :-)) - My washing machine shouldn't have broken down - I shouldn't live in a war zone - I shouldn't have sheep or bedouin living next to me - I shouldn't have the smell of feces and urine in my brain - I am much worse off than anyone else, they can't understand how bad my situation really is What I see is a person who has almost reached her threshold of pain. I see a person who projects even her desire for her own freedom onto others, not daring to admit yet that she wants freedom more than pain. If you post on the list you will get comments, that is the reality, that is what we do. The comments are all loving, the whole universe is loving you and supporting you and waiting for you to choose freedom. I hope you stay around long enough to see the negativity you now perceive is deep love and caring, that what you may see as criticism comes from clarity, a clarity that you can choose to guide you to freedom. Love Hanle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 This week I have read a book called " Broken Open " by Lesser - about changing through difficult times and coming out of those times. She has previously been a midwife and talks about the similarities between childbirth and life changes (what she calls the 'Phoenix process'). The contractions in the uterus, the purpose of which is to widen the cervix, so that the baby be born. How these contractions in our own lives, and the pain around these changes, can be seen in the same way - delivering a new 'us'. It's something that rings true for me at the moment and in the times when the contractions hit, doing The Work goes out of the window and I try to just hold this image in mind :-) It is helping to put many changes into perspective. And Joy, she also talks about her menopause - another Phoenix process. With love, Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I think I have to just outline this - I am in the desert - with bedouins - I rented this place for a year. It's 3 months now since I moved in. Moved 8 times in 4.5 years. I am with 4 cats that keep on moving with me. Money is tight. I am hypersensitive to everything. I chose this place not knowing that this would be my situation. The sheepherders moved in a month after I did. I cannot leave the house because of burning garbage and sheep shit and urine smell. So I spend my days on the net, trying to find a job that I can work from home and between all that, maintain my sanity with making music and cleaning the house. When I do have to leave - it's for food. I am counting the minutes till I can move to a final place - my own place - where I can breathe easier and not be interfered with by pollution and harmful things to me. I don't believe in kicking milk cartons - or anything like that. I think it's stupid personally. What I like is kicking ass. Literally - so I do martial arts from time to time - and singing for salvation also does. That's it - my little life in a war zone. Thanks for the tip though - joy > > > > Unloading on others frees up your energy. Is that true? > > > > A - It may be true as in the instance where throwing a tantrum takes > > the edge off an unbearably tight feeling in the chest. It may feel > > good to displace anger ordinarily directed at self onto another, > > thereby freeing up some space within to gloat and feel smug and > > superior. It may feel empowering to unload onto another, giving them > > a part of your high and mighty knowledge and wisdom about how things > > need to be. Ultimately, I think it's not true, it's a farce, it's > > fake, it's a ploy by the ego, where for a moment you gain temporary > > strength, but in the long run, you get left by the curb, because > > after a while people get hip to your BS. > > > > TA - Unloading on others doesn't free up your energy > > Unloading on yourself frees up your energy > > Unloading on others frees up your energy > > Unloading on yourself doesn't free up your energy. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Of course it's funny. Because you're Roslyn and I'm Joy. 2 different people with 2 different POV's - and one has thinner skin than the other. It also happens that this email affected me in an adverse way. But please have a laugh. It's all good. So anyway - take care - Joy > > > > > > > > Apparently it is not true, at least not right now. It might be > > true > > > or at least more true at some time in the future. > > > > > > > > I can think of many reasons for not wanting someone else to share > > > the responsibility of doing housework. Can you? Perhaps writing > > down > > > some of those reasons would make you appreciate the freedom and > > > flexibility you currently enjoy to do housework your way. > > > > > > > > Vivian > > > > > > > > > Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? > > Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail. www.yahoo.de/mail > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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