Splenda

March 8, 1999

Oh ! What a fighter you are!!

The high bg's... over 400!! wow... doesn't that affect your eyes? Do you

have any neuropathy? I get blurry vision at bg's over 200 and have some

slight neuropathy. So the low carb diet is a godsend for me.

Since you don't want to lose weight right now, perhaps on the day before and

day of your chem you could do the low carb thing to counteract the rise it

gives you, and do the hi complex carbs on the other days?? Might be worth a

try

You say the cancer destroyed most of your pancreas? Do you still make

insulin on your own?

Meenie

Re: Splenda

>From: clerk@...

>

>In a message dated 99-03-08 08:25:15 EST, you write:

>

><< , I'm sorry you're having to do the chemo! Have you tried low

carbing

> while on it? I don't know your medical condition or if low carb would be

ok

> for you... maybe you should ask your doc or your oncologist. Meenie

>>

>

>Haven't tried low-carbing - by that I assume you mean eating as little

carbs

>as possible - I try to stick to High Complex carbs though. The oncology

>doctors have stressed maintaining my weight as is - I have lost weight -

but

>only at the times when I am allowed to and can do it *easily* as long as I

>don't have chemo - with chemo, it is important to maintain because of the

>strain it puts on the system killing good along with bad cells. Problem is

my

>cancers caused the loss of my left kidney and most of my pancreas last

year -

>thank God it was two different kinds and had not spread!! - But, now they

>found three pinpoint spots on my liver - not good - but so small they can't

>even biopsy - so chemo for me again! I feel better and stronger each week

>which is great and encouraging to the doctors, but on the day after chemo,

my

>BG starts out at almost 400 and remains just about there all day long -

>sometimes I have tested 6 times a day - I was getting so nervous about it -

>and then, I backed off because I was getting so stressed. The next day it

>drops another 100 pts and the next another 100 pts until about 4 days after

is

>just about in normal range again, but by then, it is almost time to repeat

the

>process. So, I know, and the doctors have told me, that the chemo is

causing

>the problem and I need to get my insulin adjusted which I am monitoring now

>for a few days so he can make a determination of how much more to

prescribe.

>So far, he took me off precose, so far (the only pill I was able to digest

and

>not have a side affect) and put me on humalin twice a day - 12 u in the AM

and

>16 in the PM. Now, he wants to put me on 70-30 Insulin but is waiting to

see

>what figures I give him these next two weeks.

>

>The thing is because I am feeling so good these past 6 weeks I have been on

>chemo again (do you think a new grandbaby born last Sunday has anything to

do

>with it!!?? <G>) that I think I could try to lose a little even though on

>chemo but am afraid to take any chances - can you blame me?!

>

>So I try to eat as much as I can and try to work it all in to please all my

>doctors. But for drinks which I have to consume a lot more of because of

the

>dry tissue problem with chemo, I stick to lots and lots of water and

sometimes

>an unsweetened iced tea when we are out.

>

>I have Type II diabetes and the funny thing is all my life I never even

liked

>sweets!! How's that for ironic?

>

>It's enough to drive a crazy person sane!!

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March 8, 1999

, with all your problems you will just have to try and see what works

for you. However, a carb is a carb is a carb. I have found that on a High

Protein, What some people might consider a high fat, low carb diet, I feel

better and my BG's are in better control. I also am not as hungry as on the

other diet. If you haven't yet read Dr. Bernstein's book on

Diabetes you should. While I follow Dr. Atkins diet, they are similar.

Ann S

Re: Splenda

>From: clerk@...

>

>Thanks Ann for the info on the Diet RC and the advice. I never use

aspartame.

>

>What I need is more variety to pick from because I think it's the fact that

>I'm so darn hungry all the time. It's the carb intake - I try to stick to

>salads, complex carbs and proteins, but sometimes that is not always

possible.

>I feel, too, that I need to eat more too to compensate for the effects of

the

>chemo killing the good cells along with the bad - I have managed to

maintain

>my weight - no loss or gain. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't need to

play

>both ends of the field at once - this balancing act between chemo and

diabetes

>is no fun!! On the one had they tell you EAT, EAT, EAT and on the other

hand

>- WATCH IT!!

>

>I love chinese and find that I crave it on chemo days - probably because

the

>ginger is good for nausea. It doesn't seem to do anything to my BG's - I

know

>this because I have it during the week when I level out again and my BG's

are

>not elevated that much when I eat the chicken " fried " rice. I stay away

from

>the lo-mein and egg rolls, etc as they REALLY are bad!! But, the broth

from

>WonTon soup is excellent for me. I skip the noodle part and just drink the

>broth and whatever other vegetables are in it.

>

>I've also discovered that 's Classic Greek Pitas are very good for me.

>I'm a label reader BIGTIME and skip anything that lists more than 50g of

carb

>and 0 Sugar - or at least try to! I also try to skip anything that lists

more

>than 25% fat. Now, this may seem high to some, but my nutritionist is

>concerned that I am NOT getting enough fat - because I totall have

eliminated

>ALL of it from the rest of my diet - so she has told me to deliberately

have

>some everyday. I am a little fussy about that part, but try to adhere to

what

>she says, - that's why the " fried " rice works for me.

>

>PASTA or a large amt of bread (more than one slice) - a definite no-no for

me

>- except for the Pita Bread and 100% whole grain breads.

>

>Chile Con Carne is a must have - it really brings the BG's down!!

>

><< I should have read your message all the way through. You didn't say if

you

> are type I or II. I suspect you are type II. Try lowering your carb

intake

> and getting completely off asparatame. Monitor yourself as you make the

> changes and see what works. I have had to completely leave aspartame out

of

> my diet and lower my carb intake in order to bring my BG's down below 120.

> I am grateful to have found out about splenda as it has made my life more

> bearable. >>

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March 8, 1999

Meenie,

As Of the first of the year all Diet RC Cola packages which are distributed

to the bottlers contained Splenda instead of Aspartame. Check the dates on

the bottom of your cans they are probably outdated. This is something most

people don't realize. Aspartame sweetened drinks go out of date really

quickly and the product deteriates. Splenda is much more stable. Call your

local distributor and ask them. I now have our local wall mart getting it

in. It has no aftertaste. A little sweeter than coke but then so is RC

sweeter than coke.

Ann S

Re: Splenda

>

>>From: clerk@...

>>

>>Hi All!

>>

>>I have been following this thread with great interest. I read and then

>deleted

>>an earlier post from someone who said something about Diet Rite Cola

having

>>Splenda (or at least a safer sugar) in it? Did I read it wrong? I went to

>the

>>store yesterday and looked at all the Diet Rite labels and they all said

>they

>>contained Aspartame. Right now, all I drink is water or unsweetened iced

>tea

>>and that is getting rather old.

>>

>>I need to be particularly careful right now as chemo is shooting my BG's

>all

>>over the place!! The doctor has increased my insulin, but even with

>exercise

>>and the increased dosage of insulin, the lowest it has been is 180 the

day

>>after chemo. Not bad, considering that usually the day after it was

>>approaching 400, fasting - actually all day for that matter. The good

thing

>is

>>that the chemo is making me better and stronger this time instead of

sicker

>>and weaker which they say is a very good sign for which I am truly

>thankful.

>>No side effects from the chemo at all - except a little arthritis in the

>legs

>>now and again.

>>

>>And my appetite is so good! All I want to do is eat. So, I could really

>use

>>some advice here, guys. On the one had this is great, the appetite I

>mean -

>>considering chemo and all - on the other - it is not good for my BG's.

Talk

>>about the old proverbial Rock!!

>>

>> in Port Orange FL

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March 9, 1999

Dear Ann,

Thanks for the book tip - Has Dr. Bernstein written more than one? What's the

name of the book? I do have Dr. Ornish's book and find that one helpful.

You are right - I know I have to find my own way - because some very strange

things have happened since my surgery - I can digest foods i never could

before and have developed new allergies as well. And sometimes pasta will

bother BGs and other times not - depends on when during the day I eat

particular foods and my activity levels.

In a message dated 99-03-08 16:44:33 EST, you write:

<< , with all your problems you will just have to try and see what works

for you. However, a carb is a carb is a carb. I have found that on a High

Protein, What some people might consider a high fat, low carb diet, I feel

better and my BG's are in better control. I also am not as hungry as on the

other diet. If you haven't yet read Dr. Bernstein's book on

Diabetes you should. While I follow Dr. Atkins diet, they are similar.

>>

March 9, 1999

THis sounds good to me, Bill!! I think this is where my doctor is heading -

he has already increased my dosage - I take two injections per day - and is

waiting for some BG results from me to see how much more I need to have -

right now I am on Humalin N - he wants me to go to Regular Insulin - 70/30 -

I trust the team of doctors I have implicitly - they saved my life!! The only

complaint I have is the way they govern my diet right now. One baby step at a

time, I guess.

in Port Orange, FL

(formerly from Rochester, NY, Bill!!)

In a message dated 99-03-09 01:42:00 EST, you write:

<< A diabetic on Chemo is very hard. A neighbor of mine had that problem a

few

years ago. What finally happened was that he changed to insulin and

controlled his higher BGs with the insulin using many injections a day. He

then ate more of the food that he needed to help rebuild the good cells and

finally his cancer went into remission. The last two years there has not

been any signs of a reoccurrence either. >>

March 9, 1999

Thanks Ann! I'll try to buy them today.

In a message dated 99-03-09 08:36:02 EST, you write:

<< t is called Diabetes Solution. Yes I think he has written a couple more

but this one is really good to help you understand. I Also suggest you read

Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution (the latest edition) Many diabetics use it. I

have found that by following his program they can control BG's better. I

for one discovered that with the traditional diet by ADA my BG's went

through the roof. I have them finally under control after going on Dr.

Atkins Diet. While a lot of Diabetics prefer Dr. Bernsteins book I find it

more prohibitive than Dr. Atkins. I have developed a lot of yummy recipes

using splenda which help me stay on the program. As I said each food will

be a personal think and I think that you can find a good eating plan which

you tailor for yourself. >>

March 9, 1999

It is called Diabetes Solution. Yes I think he has written a couple more