Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Grey, On the web site Puritans Pride, they advertised various Alpha Lipoic Acid, for example, one with cinnamon, in capsules or soft gel, in various mgs. What did you decide on for yourself? Also I saw listed: ACETYL L-CARNITINE 400MG W/ALPHA LIPOIC ACID 200MG up to 500mg. Is this the same as NAC? Not sure what decides what mg. one should take. I appreciate the help. May God continue to use you and your wisdom to enhance and touch the lives of others. kiss kiss, ~Ginger~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Hi I have been taking both NAC and Alpha Lipoic Acid for about three months. They seem to be helping. Not much phlegm, O2 is always low in the morning but is come up to normal faster. I am walking around faster, the plumo Dr saw me walking down the hall and thought I was getting around better. So don't know which one is helping but not going to mess with a good thing so I will continue to take both. Get a good price at Purtian.com P in Illinois jose singletary wrote: Hello , How did the Alpha Lipoic Acid work out. I ordered some today. I did two doctors today. Kidney man wants to operate by installing stint in line that comes out of one of my kidneys. Says I have a narrow place that he may be able to fix. He said (you don't look too good} and he called the lung man to set me up an appointment before he will touch me. Lung man is in same medical center so I decided to do a walk in. The lady that makes the appointments for the lung man, took one look at me and told me to sit down. She said I just called your wife and made you an appointment. She called a nurse and I got a blood gas test and another 6 min walk. Nurse told me to raise ox level when I was active. Went by the ox store and asked for 2 roll around tanks. Nurse told me to ask for whatever I needed to keep going. Boy that medicare and supplement ins is good stuff. Doctor asked me if I wanted the operation. I said what would you do. He replied, lets see what the lung man says. Lungs-Heart-Kidneys-Diabeties-Is there some point where you give up? The man that operated on my wife's eyes has had cancer and only has one lung. He is carrying a full work load. Some people don't give up. Grey PS I keep the good stuff. Use ofAlpha Lipoic Acid Hi to all the gang Has any one heard of or know anything about Alpha Lipoic Acid (LA)? I was on a web site looking for NAC and the pill I found had both NAC and this Alpha Lipoic Acid in it, so I looked up what it does. It supposed to do some good things. It helps diabetic with there sugar, which I am, so that's a good thing. It helps rats from aging; the wife calls me a rat-fink (a old car joke from the 60's) so that could be a good thing, and it also helps oxidative stress. Don't know what that is. Raises glutathions Levels 30 –70%. "Functions as a cofactor in energy production. Acts as a free radical scavenger, and helps regenerate the effects of other antioxidants." One site said, " LA has a clear advantage over NAC. NAC serves as a onetime cysteine donor, as LA has ability to service continuous supplies of cysteine a precursor for glutathione (GSH) synthesis." GSH deficiencies have been documented in COPD & IPF. "LA leads to increase activity of elastase and degradation of elastin in the lungs, a process that has been implicated in COPD." Elastase is an elastic substance in the lungs that supports their structural framework. The spot where the elastase is, is the same spot that the IPF scaring happens. So if it helps that spot it could help us. My upper chest does not expand any more so that lead me to think that degradation of my elastin is happening. Well who knows if LA will help or not but I ordered some to give it a try. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Hello Joyce, I looked at some of sites marketing Alpha Lipoic Acid and found one that claimed to have better quality stuff called L-Alpha Liptoic Acid and went for that. I just put it in my search eng and come up with several sites. Thanks for responding. It's good to have somebody to talk to. Take Care Grey Re: Use ofAlpha Lipoic Acid Grey, I had this stint in the ureter (which runs between the kidney and bladder) surgery about 15 years ago. Mine closed all the way off and the pain was incredible. Ended up in the emergency room begging to die and was put on morphine. They did the surgery and I stayed in the hospital about 2-3 days. Then had the stint removed in the docs office (no pain) after a few weeks. The interim was not pleasant but I have had no further trouble....nor do I want to. I have been put to sleep for several surgeries since diagnosis with PF years ago. One major surgery. I have always done real well. The surgeons have always consulted with my pulmonary doc. I wonder if they could use a nerve block instead for the stint surgery. Wow, you have been busy this week. No wonder you are feeling so badly. -Is there some point where you give up? No Sir! God's blessings to you and your wife. How is her eye doing? Joyce >> Hello , How did the Alpha Lipoic Acid work out. I ordered some today. I did two doctors today. Kidney man wants to operate by installing stint in line that comes out of one of my kidneys. Says I have a narrow place that he may be able to fix. He said (you don't look too good} and he called the lung man to set me up an appointment before he will touch me. Lung man is in same medical center so I decided to do a walk in. The lady that makes the appointments for the lung man, took one look at me and told me to sit down. She said I just called your wife and made you an appointment. She called a nurse and I got a blood gas test and another 6 min walk. Nurse told me to raise ox level when I was active. Went by the ox store and asked for 2 roll around tanks. Nurse told me to ask for whatever I needed to keep going. Boy that m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Joyce, Sounds like you have had PF a long time. Do you have any advice on how to outlast this stuff. Kidney Dr. went into my bladder and wherever else and the next visit they gave me a diuretic and did a scan for 40 minutes to see how the kidneys were emptying. Said I had a narrow place below the left kidney that was restricting the kidney function. Also said I would get a spinal because of health problems. Plenty of doctors. Hang in there-----Grey Re: Use ofAlpha Lipoic Acid Grey, I had this stint in the ureter (which runs between the kidney and bladder) surgery about 15 years ago. Mine closed all the way off and the pain was incredible. Ended up in the emergency room begging to die and was put on morphine. They did the surgery and I stayed in the hospital about 2-3 days. Then had the stint removed in the docs office (no pain) after a few weeks. The interim was not pleasant but I have had no further trouble....nor do I want to. I have been put to sleep for several surgeries since diagnosis with PF years ago. One major surgery. I have always done real well. The surgeons have always consulted with my pulmonary doc. I wonder if they could use a nerve block instead for the stint surgery. Wow, you have been busy this week. No wonder you are feeling so badly. -Is there some point where you give up? No Sir! God's blessings to you and your wife. How is her eye doing? Joyce >> Hello , How did the Alpha Lipoic Acid work out. I ordered some today. I did two doctors today. Kidney man wants to operate by installing stint in line that comes out of one of my kidneys. Says I have a narrow place that he may be able to fix. He said (you don't look too good} and he called the lung man to set me up an appointment before he will touch me. Lung man is in same medical center so I decided to do a walk in. The lady that makes the appointments for the lung man, took one look at me and told me to sit down. She said I just called your wife and made you an appointment. She called a nurse and I got a blood gas test and another 6 min walk. Nurse told me to raise ox level when I was active. Went by the ox store and asked for 2 roll around tanks. Nurse told me to ask for whatever I needed to keep going. Boy that m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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