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I've been following a modified vegetarian diet for 8 years now, and to my

surprise, my doctor urged me to begin eating more meats once my BG started

getting higher. I don't eat meat for a variety of reasons, although I still

ate fish and dairy. I added chicken back into my diet VERY reluctantly, but

I will never again eat beef or pork. Anyone have any good tips for adding

more protein without adding more meat to the diet? I do eat beans as well,

but as a vegetarian diet is largely a higher carbohydrate diet, it's a bit of

a problem. I also have coronary artery disease as well, and the vegetarian

diet is perfect for that, but not perfect for the diabetes!

I have started changing some habits, although when you think you've got the

best diet around as a vegetarian, it's hard to go back to eating things you

really didn't like in the first place, especially meats!

Because of this, I laughed at the Atkins Diet--I figured I would have to

starve myself, because most of it is either a meat or a meat by-product. So,

if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate it.

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> I also have coronary artery disease as well, and the vegetarian

>diet is perfect for that, but not perfect for the diabetes!

>

>Because of this, I laughed at the Atkins Diet--I figured I would have to

>starve myself, because most of it is either a meat or a meat by-product.

>

What a predicament you're in! I sure hope you can find a happy medium

there. I have to be really careful of protein intake, as protein is

<underline>extremely</underline> hard on the kidneys. And since I don't

ever want kidney problems that are so prevalent in diabetes, I eat very

little meat. And what I do eat is chicken or turkey. (You'd think

living in the Land of 10,000 Lakes, I'd eat more fish, but I don't!)

I'll be interested in the advice you get, also.

Winky

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Stay with the fish. Seafood is an excellent source of protein. So are cooked

dried peas, and grain products.

There is a relative deficiency in the amino acids lysine, tryptophan, and

methionine in plant sources of protein. A good balance can be achieved in a

vegetarian diet by mixing complementary protein sources - beans and milk,

rice and sunflower seeds, to name but two.

The body will synthesize protein only to the point at which it runs out of

adequate supplies of a vital amino acid. The remainder of the amino acids at

that point will be burned as energy or stored as fat.

Just a little comment there :-)

Re: Vegetarians

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>

>I've been following a modified vegetarian diet for 8 years now, and to my

>surprise, my doctor urged me to begin eating more meats once my BG started

>getting higher. I don't eat meat for a variety of reasons, although I

still

>ate fish and dairy. I added chicken back into my diet VERY reluctantly,

but

>I will never again eat beef or pork. Anyone have any good tips for adding

>more protein without adding more meat to the diet? I do eat beans as well,

>but as a vegetarian diet is largely a higher carbohydrate diet, it's a bit

of

>a problem. I also have coronary artery disease as well, and the vegetarian

>diet is perfect for that, but not perfect for the diabetes!

>

>I have started changing some habits, although when you think you've got the

>best diet around as a vegetarian, it's hard to go back to eating things you

>really didn't like in the first place, especially meats!

>

>Because of this, I laughed at the Atkins Diet--I figured I would have to

>starve myself, because most of it is either a meat or a meat by-product.

So,

>if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate it.

>

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Yep--TVP has been around for a VERY long time. Sometimes it tastes good,

other times not so good. But yeah, maybe I should start cooking with it

again after being away from it so long!

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My husband was on the net just the other night looking

for info on backpacking - he's a boy scout leader.

Anyways, he came across something called TVP and asked

me (like I would know) what it was. We did a search

on it and found out it is " Textured Vegetable

Protein " . It's made out of the protein part of the

soybean. It's suppose to be a replacement for ground

beef. The Diabetic Forecast Magazine (April 1999)

that the ADA sends out had a article on Tofu and it

mentions this TVP and even had a recipe for sloppy

joes made with it. Maybe this is something to look in

to??? Or maybe you have already heard of it???

(Sorry, in advance, for the plug on the ADA magazine

just happened to have a copy laying around.)

--- Hyphenate@... wrote:

From: Hyphenate@...

I've been following a modified vegetarian diet for 8

years now, and to my surprise, my doctor urged me to

begin eating more meats once my BG started getting

higher. I don't eat meat for a variety of reasons,

although I still ate fish and dairy. I added chicken

back into my diet VERY reluctantly, but I will never

again eat beef or pork. Anyone have any good tips for

adding more protein without adding more meat to the

diet?

I do eat beans as well, but as a vegetarian diet is

largely a higher carbohydrate diet, it's a bit of a

problem. I also have coronary artery disease as well,

and the vegetarian diet is perfect for that, but not

perfect for the diabetes!

I have started changing some habits, although when you

think you've got the best diet around as a vegetarian,

it's hard to go back to eating things you really

didn't like in the first place, especially meats!

Because of this, I laughed at the Atkins Diet--I

figured I would have to starve myself, because most of

it is either a meat or a meat by-product. So, if

anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate it.

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In a message dated 99-04-18 01:04:41 EDT, you write:

<< he came across something called TVP and asked me (like I would know) what

it was. We did a search on it and found out it is " Textured Vegetable

Protein " . It's made out of the protein part of the soybean. It's suppose to

be a replacement for ground beef. The Diabetic Forecast Magazine (April

1999) that the ADA sends out had a article on Tofu and it mentions this TVP

and even had a recipe for sloppy

joes made with it. Maybe this is something to look in to??? Or maybe you

have already heard of it??? (Sorry, in advance, for the plug on the ADA

magazine

just happened to have a copy laying around.) >>

I used it years ago - personally, I'd rather chew cardboard - anyone used to

eating ground beef will not be satisfied with the taste - it needs to be

highly seasoned.

But that was before they came out with ground turkey which I love - and I

haven't tried TVP ina about 10 years - actually, I haven't seen it for sale

in my area - I used to buy in up north in Rochester - I think probably from

Wegman's because that is where I shopped al the time.

I'd try it again, now though - just to say I did - I think it would be OK if

you served it en casserole someway.

in Port Orange, FL

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Hi

So glad to see so many messages from you. Keep them coming. Great

support from you for all of us.

Thanks so much for joing our group.

--- clerk@... wrote:

> From: clerk@...

>

> In a message dated 99-04-18 01:04:41 EDT, you write:

>

> << he came across something called TVP and asked me

> (like I would know) what

> it was. We did a search on it and found out it is

> " Textured Vegetable

> Protein " . It's made out of the protein part of the

> soybean. It's suppose to

> be a replacement for ground beef. The Diabetic

> Forecast Magazine (April

> 1999) that the ADA sends out had a article on Tofu

> and it mentions this TVP

> and even had a recipe for sloppy

> joes made with it. Maybe this is something to look

> in to??? Or maybe you

> have already heard of it??? (Sorry, in advance,

> for the plug on the ADA

> magazine

> just happened to have a copy laying around.) >>

>

>

> I used it years ago - personally, I'd rather chew

> cardboard - anyone used to

> eating ground beef will not be satisfied with the

> taste - it needs to be

> highly seasoned.

>

> But that was before they came out with ground turkey

> which I love - and I

> haven't tried TVP ina about 10 years - actually, I

> haven't seen it for sale

> in my area - I used to buy in up north in Rochester

> - I think probably from

> Wegman's because that is where I shopped al the

> time.

>

> I'd try it again, now though - just to say I did - I

> think it would be OK if

> you served it en casserole someway.

>

> in Port Orange, FL

>

>

>

>

>

>

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