Re: Need forOpen Lung Biopsy

[Guest guest]

Hi Arlen, I was told by my Dr. that the Biopsy you just had was an out patient surgery, with no danger of anything happening. I really haven't that much trust in him. As I already was told I have pf with the honey combing and connective tissue. My question is. Why go thru that and get the same answer? You are the first person that I noticed that mentioned that biopsy. Thanks Vonny

[Guest guest]

Hi Arlen, I was told by my Dr. that the Biopsy you just had was an out patient surgery, with no danger of anything happening. I really haven't that much trust in him. As I already was told I have pf with the honey combing and connective tissue. My question is. Why go thru that and get the same answer? You are the first person that I noticed that mentioned that biopsy. Thanks Vonny

Vonny,

It certainly isn't out-patient surgery, as its an invasive surgery right into your lung. I've got a 2" scar in my side, and a smaller round scar below it from the drainage tube put in during the surgery to drain fluids.

I've read some postings where patients were discharged the next day, and had minimal pain, but they sure must be a lot tougher than I am. Every cough was agony. I had a pushbutton to give myself painkillers, but never used it, because the agonies were brief

All my best,.......Arlen

[Guest guest]

The bronchioscopy brinds new meaning to the old saying "up your nose with a rubber hose".

Gordon

Need for"Open Lung Biopsy"

I had a bronchoscopy (?) done to analyze my shortness-of-breath, which went down thru my nose, and took a tissue sample from high in the lung. My pulmonologist said then that I had IPF, in his opinion, but wanted me to have the biopsy done. The biopsy takes a tissue sample from deep down in the lung, and he said would provide absolute confirmation of the bronchoscopy. The biopsy is the "acid test" for IPF.

I'm surprised to hear that some people don't survive the surgery. It was a little more than I was expecting, and I guess any surgery at all can be life-threatening.

All my best,......Arlen

[Guest guest]

Arlen;

You guys make me feel like superman, I really didn't find the biopsy all that bad. Although I'm not considering taking it up as a hobby.

Gordon

Re: Need for"Open Lung Biopsy"

Hi Arlen, I was told by my Dr. that the Biopsy you just had was an out patient surgery, with no danger of anything happening. I really haven't that much trust in him. As I already was told I have pf with the honey combing and connective tissue. My question is. Why go thru that and get the same answer? You are the first person that I noticed that mentioned that biopsy. Thanks Vonny

Vonny,

It certainly isn't out-patient surgery, as its an invasive surgery right into your lung. I've got a 2" scar in my side, and a smaller round scar below it from the drainage tube put in during the surgery to drain fluids.

I've read some postings where patients were discharged the next day, and had minimal pain, but they sure must be a lot tougher than I am. Every cough was agony. I had a pushbutton to give myself painkillers, but never used it, because the agonies were brief

All my best,.......Arlen

[Guest guest]

An open lung biopsy is definitely NOT outpatient surgery. Because the

samples are taken from the outside of the lung air and blood will

leak into the chest cavity. (pneumothorax or hemothorax) Either will

cause difficulty breathing and could collapse a lung, so they put in

a " chest tube (a one way valve to allow draining. You cant go home

until the lung heals enough to take the chest tube out. (usually 2-3

days. In a bronchoscopy they take the sample from the inside of the

lung so the outer wall is not breached leaking into the chest. Any

leakage would go out through the nose or mouth. I was told this would

be outpatient but a 50% chance it wouldn't show and I'd have to go

for the open biopsy anyway. Remember I'm not a doctor I just play one

on TV. Hope this helps

>

> Hi Arlen, I was told by my Dr. that the Biopsy you just had was an

out

> patient surgery, with no danger of anything happening. I really

haven't that much

> trust in him. As I already was told I have pf with the honey

combing and

> connective tissue. My question is. Why go thru that and get the

same answer? You

> are the first person that I noticed that mentioned that biopsy.

Thanks Vonny

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Arlen, I was told by my Dr. that the Biopsy you just had was an

out

> patient surgery, with no danger of anything happening. I really

haven't that much

> trust in him. As I already was told I have pf with the honey

combing and

> connective tissue. My question is. Why go thru that and get the

same answer? You

> are the first person that I noticed that mentioned that biopsy.

Thanks Vonny

>

I've not had the biopsy either & 2 of the 3 docs I've seen have said

it is not necessary. My take on this is similar to yours: why go

thru this possibly very painful & dangerous surgery unless it stands

a chance of changing the diagnosis and the treatment? From what

I've read, the lung bx may occasionally refine the dx but not change

the tx. Loss/gain comparison doesn't justify it for me. bonnie

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My lung did collapse during the lung biopsy. I did have extensive bleeding and I did have 9 days in CCU on morphine...but getting a definate diagnosis has helped the doctors help me. (up until then I was wrongly diagnosed with tuberculosis, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc.) I am 8 years out. Was given 2-4 years....but I have fought for every day! The surgeon did not expect it all to be so dramatic. So, I am not sure that they always know going in just how it will go. I was expecting overnight. So, I would suggest that if you have a biopsy planned, pack your bag with extra underwear.

Joyce (p.s. Remember I'm not a doctor I just play one > on TV ..are you really on t.v. or are you quoting of FRIENDS?)

> >> > Hi Arlen, I was told by my Dr. that the Biopsy you just had was an > out > > patient surgery, with no danger of anything happening. I really > haven't that much > > trust in him. As I already was told I have pf with the honey > combing and > > connective tissue. My question is. Why go thru that and get the > same answer? You > > are the first person that I noticed that mentioned that biopsy. > Thanks Vonny> >>

[Guest guest]

I had a up your nose with a rubber hose and that was enough for me. I guess at my age it didn't matter what was happening so long as it wasn't cancer. That lung biopsey sounds like it could go a lot of different ways. GREY

Need for"Open Lung Biopsy"

I had a bronchoscopy (?) done to analyze my shortness-of-breath, which went down thru my nose, and took a tissue sample from high in the lung. My pulmonologist said then that I had IPF, in his opinion, but wanted me to have the biopsy done. The biopsy takes a tissue sample from deep down in the lung, and he said would provide absolute confirmation of the bronchoscopy. The biopsy is the "acid test" for IPF.

I'm surprised to hear that some people don't survive the surgery. It was a little more than I was expecting, and I guess any surgery at all can be life-threatening.

All my best,......Arlen

[Guest guest]

I heard Marlon Brando had PF though.

Marlon Brando????....Alas, and that's who I always wanted to give me mouth to mouth resusitation should I ever need it. He could call me "Stella" anytime.<SIGH>.

kiss kiss

~Star-struck Ginger~

[Guest guest]

Love that guy.. HA HA He has the same hair style as my hubby..

on 3/28/06 11:24 PM, happyyellowroses at HappyYellowRoses@... wrote:

Dr. Phil ???????

> >

> > An open lung biopsy is definitely NOT outpatient surgery. Because

> the

> > samples are taken from the outside of the lung air and blood will

> > leak into the chest cavity. (pneumothorax or hemothorax) Either will

> > cause difficulty breathing and could collapse a lung, so they put in

> > a " chest tube (a one way valve to allow draining. You cant go home

> > until the lung heals enough to take the chest tube out. (usually