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Suzanne Chisum wrote:

> This new doc thinks I have a somatic disorder and should see a

> psychiatrist. Or.... as he explained it.... I am psychologically causing

> myself to have these symptoms and I am not letting myself know that I am

> doing it to myself! LOL!

>

Suzanne:

Oh how I hate it when that happens!!! That sets me furious!! I also went

through this. I was " depressed " just because they couldn't figure out what was

wrong with me, this was before they finally figured out it was Chiari. I spoke

with a doctor where I work about the " depression " label, he said they do that

when all other test results haven't panned out to anything. Makes me wanna

scream. My internist gave me a written depression test to take and actually

took my husband into another room to question him about me. They're the ones

who are nuts. See I told you this makes me crazy.

Anyway, hang in there,

Sheila

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>He was friendly. Wasn't at all concerned that the opthamologists found

>papilidema (did I get the spelling right Chip?)

No, but you were a little closer than yesterday.

papilledema

Chip

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< My internist gave me a written depression test to take and actually

> took my husband into another room to question him about me. They're the ones

> who are nuts. See I told you this makes me crazy.

>

> Anyway, hang in there,

> Sheila

>

I agree wholeheartedly!! We've been through 2 neurologists and are visting a

third next tuesday. My mom has parkinson's, and her neurologist also sent her

to see a psychiatrist because she was feeling " down " . She kept trying to tell

him that it was the new medication he had her on. He said he didn't think so,

made the appointment for her, and that was that. Mom took herself off the new

medication, went back to her old medication and her good ol' self, and canceled

the appointment with that shrink!

Wendi--NM

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In a message dated 1/22/99 6:31:32 AM Central Standard Time,

clearlycockers@... writes:

<< Guess I would have had to say to him that " ...Yes! I too am not impressed

with my Chiari Malformation as it is really messing up my life you

imbecile!... " >>

or how about.....I am not impressed with your lack of knowledge about chiari

and your damn pride which keeps you from saying I do not know but we will find

out!!! Nor by your lack of compassion and understanding or by the fact that

you are trying to make me depressed by telling me these things do not exist

when I KNOW they do!

<< Sorry -- my nerve endings are almost non-existent when it comes to some of

these " doctors! " >>

ditto that , I have one nerve left and I think these drs. do their best

to stay on it!!!

Love, hugs, and prayers, Haydee ( Nana to , 7 yrs old,

w/Spina Bifida, Hydrocephalus w/VP Shunt, ACM II,

Tethered Cord, Seizure Disorder, G-Tube Fed (totally NPO),

Swallowing Coordination Disorder, Lung Failure 3/30/97, 60 days on Life

Support, 33 days on Total Lung ByPass (ECMO), Now Humidified Oxygen

Dependent, Radical Tracheostomy w/Total Loss of Vocal Cord Use, Paralyzed

from Waist Down, 17 Surgeries,

Asthma, Severe Latex Allergy, Allergies to many Medications, All

Adhesives, and tons of other Stuff, and one crazzzzy Nana living right outside

Baton Rouge, Louisiana and such a Love of Life!

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Suzanne wrote, in part:

>BTW.... I love how they say that they " are not impressed " with things....

>We're not impressed with your Chiari Malformation, I wasn't impressed with

>your Romberg (because you didn't fall to the ground)... I wasn't impressed

>with your neurological exam.

Guess I would have had to say to him that " ...Yes! I too am not impressed

with my Chiari Malformation as it is really messing up my life you

imbecile!... "

Sorry -- my nerve endings are almost non-existent when it comes to some of

these " doctors! "

Phoenix, AZ

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Suzanne, even on the other side of the world neurologists and neurosurgeons

seem to have the same attitude. I spent the night in the er observation unit

last night and my daughter had to practically throw a paddy to get someone to

listen..They sure did then.They put a canula in and fed me some drug that

has to be administered at the rate of 1mg per minute and it finally knocked me

out. My daughter said that the sleep aponea buzzer kept going off and I

certainly got some action. I see the neuro on Friday to get the results of my

MRI so please cross your fingers he is in a good mood and I get some answers.

Enough grumps from me LOL Ann Brisbane Australia

Suzanne Chisum wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I was out neurologist shopping again today.... had an appointment with one

> who is 34... and so I had hoped that the apathy (lack of interest) that I

> have seen in most neurologists had not yet set in.

>

> He was friendly. Wasn't at all concerned that the opthamologists found

> papilidema (did I get the spelling right Chip?) which is swelling of the

> optic nerve.

>

> This new doc thinks I have a somatic disorder and should see a

> psychiatrist. Or.... as he explained it.... I am psychologically causing

> myself to have these symptoms and I am not letting myself know that I am

> doing it to myself! LOL!

>

> Why is it that it seems so difficult to find a decent neurologist? I had

> heard about the arrogance of neurosurgeons... but that is much preferrable

> to this lack of enthusiasm I have encountered with the neurologists.

>

> BTW.... I love how they say that they " are not impressed " with things....

> We're not impressed with your Chiari Malformation, I wasn't impressed with

> your Romberg (because you didn't fall to the ground)... I wasn't impressed

> with your neurological exam.

>

> Do they know how much they don't know???

>

> Peace, and cheers, and drinks are on the house (bring your own ladder),

>

> Suzanne C.

> schisum@...

>

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Well, we went to see the new neurologist yesterday.........I have never wanted

to strike a person as much as I wanted to strike him!!! I am still fuming, and

will try to stay on track here and not get off into rantings and ravings~

I have had trouble getting people to take me seriously in the past, as I am

5 foot even, 105lbs, and look about ten years younger than my true age.

However,

with my very large husband standing behind me, they usually come around!! Not

this doc. He all but called me stupid!!! There I was, armed with all sorts of

information and questions, and I got so angry with him I couldn't even speak.

I just lost it, and knew that we were not going to get anywhere.

The topic of our disagreement: Rick's syrinx. Dr. , the nsg, had told

us that the syrinx collapsed. The Neurologist said I must have misunderstood,

that just couldn't happen, and there it was plain as day on the MRI. I insisted

that that was what was said, but Rick didn't remember it. So this Neurologist

says to Rick.....(I still can't believe he had the nerve!), " See, you

understand.

She just doesn't get it. " ARRRRGH! I became pretty ineffective after that,

since

I am cursed (?) with being a female and when I get that mad, well, the tears

start flowing. Made me madder, but I just left it at that and concluded the

session.

The good news: I'm NOT crazy! Based on a recommendation from another patient

and member here, I collected all of Rick's medical records from every doctor,

and

hospital. When I was going over Dr. 's notes, there it was in black and

white: The syrinx has collapsed. So! My question is, does that really happen?

I'm feeling alot more confident in Dr. right now than anyone else, and

would like to believe what HE says. The & *!@@$ neurologist didn't have the

pre-op MRI's, so I'm thinking he didn't have anything to compare it to. I know

that the syrinx would not DISAPPEAR.

One more question, (I know, this is getting long!) the post-op MRI report said,

and I quote: " No evidence of abnormal fluid collections. " Wouldn't a syrinx

be and " abnormal fluid collection? "

Still fuming.....

Wendi--New Mexico

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