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KC,

I think that you are right. We just ammended our insurance coverage at

work, and discussed this with our agent. If I remember correctly, he

told us that we could switch insurance companies, and they cannot deny

us coverage due to pre-existing conditions (my partner also has some

medical problems.) He did tell me however, that they can charge the

maximum rate allowed to cover you. So, it sounded like you have to be

able to get coverage, but they have you by the " you know whats " as far

as what you have to pay for it.

M.

Knommoc38@... wrote:

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> Didn't they pass a law saying that people cannot be denied insurance/treatment

> based on pre-existing conditions? I thought it was made so that people with

> problems can go on to another job and be totally covered. I know enforcing

> the law is probably a lot different than making it :)

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> KC

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At 11:07 PM -0500 1/14/99, MARK73594@... wrote:

> Has anyone had problems getting medical insurance once they were diagnosed

>with Chiari.

>

Hi Mark,

I know that if you do get medical ins. they will not cover any of

your chiari related illnesses. That is what is known as a Pre-existing

condition.

You can get the ins I am pretty sure of that........but anything they can

say is caused by the chiari they will battle you for payment, no doubt!

Judy Marie

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> Mark

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wrote:

Original Article: /list/chiari/?start=10587

> Has anyone had problems getting medical insurance once they were diagnosed

> with Chiari.

>

>

>

> Mark

> We already had insurance when my husband was diagnosed and it has been

wonderful!!

$40,000 worth of medical bills, and our out-of-pocket has been $400. *SMILE*

My

question to others is: What happens when you reach the " life time limit " on

your

insurance? Where do you go from there?

Wendi--New Mexico

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Hi guys,

I thought I would address a "pre-existing condition" when insurance

in involved. Before I was disabled by this condition, I worked for

a big insurance company and did pre-existing investigations my self.

Most insurance policy's do have this clause. Most also go by these

rules. If you have a preexisting condition you must go 90 days treatment

free. This also means medication as well. If you can go 30

or 90 days (depending on there clause) they will start to pay for this

condition.

If you can't, then you have to be insured for a whole year before they

start to pay any medical claims on this condition! Hope this helps

some! Hugs Robin

Judy Marie wrote:

At 11:07 PM -0500 1/14/99, MARK73594@... wrote:

> Has anyone had problems getting medical insurance once they were diagnosed

>with Chiari.

>

Hi Mark,

I know that if you do get medical ins. they will not cover any of

your chiari related illnesses. That is what is known as a Pre-existing

condition.

You can get the ins I am pretty sure of that........but anything they can

say is caused by the chiari they will battle you for payment, no doubt!

Judy Marie

>

>

> Mark

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In a message dated 1/15/1999 10:11:46 PM Mountain Standard Time,

Knommoc38@... writes:

<< Didn't they pass a law saying that people cannot be denied

insurance/treatment

based on preexisting conditions? >>

They did -- BUT that is IF you have already been covered by insurance for a

specified amount of time -- and if you let your insurance lapse for something

like 60 days, then you start from square one and they CAN use the

" preexisting " clause. It's not perfect, but it's a step in the right

direction. When I stopped working to take care of Nina, I had to switch from

my insurance to my hubby's & they could not do the preexisting thing on my

asthma -- AND because Nina was born with the problems she has, there was no

" preexisting " cuz SHE didn't " exist " (LOL) before the problems!

TTYL

Kris

Nina's mom

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This is a good point , however from what I have read, Chiari can

also be acquired from a very bad head trauma..... hugs Robin

DSSpanos@... wrote:

I think that we have discussed this issue before. I was wondering if ACM

might not be considered a pre-existing condition under some insurance

contracts because it is a congenital condition. I know that my insurance does

not have any waiting period for congenital conditions. Might be worth a look

to see if ACM is covered that way. It could sure make it easier than waiting

a year for coverage.

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Hi All,

Just wanted to share what we have gone thru with insurance in the last

several months. First let me say that when my husband went to add me to

his insurance at work, I did not have insurance and had not for a long

time, anyway, because of the new pre-existing law they could not deny me

coverage but could defer my coverage for 18 months. The new lae did not

hepl me there. Instead of having insur. to cover everything execpt the

chiari for a year I had no insur. for 18 mo. I had to buy a one year

policy and pay the whole year in advance.

I had an MRI in Aug. Had an appointment with the neurosurgen in which he

tells me that I have basilar invagination on the same day that my

husband is told that the company he works for is closing his division.

Cool right. We had to " cobra " our coverage with he company that he left

for the two month time that the new company requires you work for them

to be added to their insurance. We were lucky the new company paid the

cobra premiums for us. It would have been about $900.00 for two months.

If you cobra the coverage the insur. company you go with must cover you

just like you have been with them all the time, because there was no

laps in coverage. If you do not cobra the coverage there is a laps and

the pre-existing clause can apply.

So the cobra part of the new law did help me this time. When I had

surgery 10 yrs ago there was no such law and when we changed insur.

companied with in the same company, they (my husbands employer) had two

companies to chosse coverage from, they tried to deny my coverage for

surgery because I went to the dr. three days after the old coverage was

droped and the new coverage was to be in effect, you know coverage ends

3/31 at 12:01am new policy begins 4/1. Policy still had to be

underwritten. Anyeay I had to take the insur. company to court to pay my

bills. They settled out of court but not for 2 yrs. And I was just

trying to recover from surgery. Thats all I have to say. Your glade

right? Sorry so long. God bless. in NC

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The more I read about the trouble some of you are having with your medical

insurance companies, I've decided that our Medicare system has a lot going

for it. Here you can either have private medical insurance or rely on the

public system. I have always had to rely on the public system because with 5

kids and a preexisting condition we couldn't afford private cover but I

can't complain about the service I have had. You just have to be patient

with thewaiting lists. LOL Ann Brisbane Australia

j Meckola wrote:

> Hi All,

> Just wanted to share what we have gone thru with insurance in the last

> several months. First let me say that when my husband went to add me to

> his insurance at work, I did not have insurance and had not for a long

> time, anyway, because of the new pre-existing law they could not deny me

> coverage but could defer my coverage for 18 months. The new lae did not

> hepl me there. Instead of having insur. to cover everything execpt the

> chiari for a year I had no insur. for 18 mo. I had to buy a one year

> policy and pay the whole year in advance.

>

> I had an MRI in Aug. Had an appointment with the neurosurgen in which he

> tells me that I have basilar invagination on the same day that my

> husband is told that the company he works for is closing his division.

> Cool right. We had to " cobra " our coverage with he company that he left

> for the two month time that the new company requires you work for them

> to be added to their insurance. We were lucky the new company paid the

> cobra premiums for us. It would have been about $900.00 for two months.

> If you cobra the coverage the insur. company you go with must cover you

> just like you have been with them all the time, because there was no

> laps in coverage. If you do not cobra the coverage there is a laps and

> the pre-existing clause can apply.

>

> So the cobra part of the new law did help me this time. When I had

> surgery 10 yrs ago there was no such law and when we changed insur.

> companied with in the same company, they (my husbands employer) had two

> companies to chosse coverage from, they tried to deny my coverage for

> surgery because I went to the dr. three days after the old coverage was

> droped and the new coverage was to be in effect, you know coverage ends

> 3/31 at 12:01am new policy begins 4/1. Policy still had to be

> underwritten. Anyeay I had to take the insur. company to court to pay my

> bills. They settled out of court but not for 2 yrs. And I was just

> trying to recover from surgery. Thats all I have to say. Your glade

> right? Sorry so long. God bless. in NC

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I have a question in reference to insurance coverage:

I am not clear what an insurance company means exactly when they say they

will not pay for treatment for any pre-existing conditions.

Since chiari is usually a " birth defect " (at least as I understand it),

then no one with chiari would be eligible for coverage.

Am I understanding this correctly?

If so, how are any of us managing to get care?

Help? I'm brain-damaged and confused!

Vikki in town

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<l03020907b2c9137e142-@[204.170.26.215]> wrote:

Original Article: /list/chiari/?start=10748

> I have a question in reference to insurance coverage:

>

> I am not clear what an insurance company means exactly when they say they

> will not pay for treatment for any pre-existing conditions.

>

> Since chiari is usually a " birth defect " (at least as I understand it),

> then no one with chiari would be eligible for coverage.

>

> Am I understanding this correctly?

>

> If so, how are any of us managing to get care?

>

> Help? I'm brain-damaged and confused!

>

> Vikki in town

>

> Vikki,

In insurance lingo.....I think " pre-existing " refers to things already

diagnosed.

Until you are diagnosed with a certain condition, they don't consider you as

having it. :-) Just my 2 cents!

Wendi--New Mexico

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