Re: For Those of Us Who are Mad and Tired

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 13 years old and severely autistic, Lennox Gestault Epilpsy,

Cognitively impaires and more.

I am so tired and it is so unfair. The CDC poisoned our kids and changed our

lives forever. EVERYTHING IS A STRUGGLE! The courts are relying on the findings

of the CDC as to whether or not autism and mercury laced vaccines are related.

The CDC did a thourough investigation of themselves and find they are not a

fault! BIG SURPRISE HUH?? Also,members of the CDC, which ran the investigation,

own large shares of stock in the vaccinations in question!!!

This is Bullshit! I am so mad I could spit nails!!I do not think we should take

this laying down! People need to Speak Up!!

I thought the bumpersticker would get noticed and get people talking.

Whew, that was a lot of mad emotions.

I want people to stand up for themselves! This is not right!

Cammy

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> I posted a GREAT bumper sticker on ebay to tell off the CDC. (The CDC can Kiss

> My @ss!)

> It makes me mad as he11 that they got away with hurting our kids and I want to

> let them know.

> Thx,

> Cammy

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I hope texas autism advocacy charges advertising fees to those who post sale

items and services.

camcat10 wrote:

>My daughter is 13 years old and severely autistic, Lennox Gestault Epilpsy,

Cognitively impaires and more.

>

>I am so tired and it is so unfair. The CDC poisoned our kids and changed our

lives forever. EVERYTHING IS A STRUGGLE! The courts are relying on the findings

of the CDC as to whether or not autism and mercury laced vaccines are related.

The CDC did a thourough investigation of themselves and find they are not a

fault! BIG SURPRISE HUH?? Also,members of the CDC, which ran the investigation,

own large shares of stock in the vaccinations in question!!!

>

>This is Bullshit! I am so mad I could spit nails!!I do not think we should take

this laying down! People need to Speak Up!!

>

>I thought the bumpersticker would get noticed and get people talking.

>

>Whew, that was a lot of mad emotions.

>

>I want people to stand up for themselves! This is not right!

>

>Cammy

>

>

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>> I posted a GREAT bumper sticker on ebay to tell off the CDC. (The CDC can

Kiss

>> My @ss!)

>> It makes me mad as he11 that they got away with hurting our kids and I want

to

>> let them know.

>> Thx,

>> Cammy

>>

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[Guest guest]

Cammy,We all feel the same way.  I get so angry sometimes!  I had the American Dream!  All our dreams were coming true and everything was falling into place.  All our hard work was finally paying off.  We were not " rich " but we were comfortable and had savings and investments.  Our farm wouldhave been paid off two years ago.

Now we are broke and deeply in debt.  Our son's immune system was damaged so he wound up in the emergency room about every two weeks for one thing or another from age fifteen months to just recently -- he is much better health wise on the AC Protocol.

I get scared every tine bill paying time rolls around.  I have to pay we can squeak by another two weeks.  We lost my salary as who was going to watch my sick child while I worked full-time?  It would have cost more than my salary.

Then when he is better, I realize if I don't teach him, he willing to get an education, so I have to home school.  Again, no pay, and we are squeaking by on one salary.  We would go ahead and sell the farm, but it needs work.  We've had to borrow against it to help our son, and we cannot even afford the repairs right now. We cannot afford to take a loss and would need enought o pay off the note and be able to have a down payment on something else.  We've had to cash in our retirement.  My husband can never retire. 

To us it appears that everything e worked for was for the drug companies and doctors.  Then every time we have to go to a hospital or docotr we fear they will take it upon themselves to vacciante our son againt our will, even though he has a lifetime medical exemption.  A doctor who knows my son's history STILL tried to talk me into giving H1 N1 when the scare was going around -- even though he has seen my son's exemption!!!!  I said, " If you shoot me in the head first! "   Now I am scared to go there.

I am so disgusted I could spit nails!  I think it will take tactics that were used in the sixties to bring about the end of the Vietnam War.  It will take moms having sit ins on the Mall in Washington and moms willing to to refuse to get up until the President listens and some of us being carted off to jail for protesting.  but I can tell you the networks are owned by the drug companies, so they wouldnot give us air time, so the public would never know.  Then who is going to care for our children while we sit?  The Supreme Court has taken away our right to sue -- that is the most disgusting part of all -- now all we have left is to sway public opinion.  We have to get enough adults who have not been affected to see this for the tragedy it is and the public must demand compensation.  The only other way would be to get enough people to refuse vaccination until this ruling is repealed and the public demands that those damaged be compensated. 

In this event, the government could declare a " national emergency " under the Patriot ACT and then all exemptions would be null and void and they would go and try to force vaccinate.  I don't think we can get enough to stop vaccinating because most believe all the fear mongering.

I am as sick of this situation as you are.  I am tired from trying to make ends meet when I should be at a time in my life when things are much easier and my mortgage is long behind me, and my husband would be able to retire in ten years, but now it will never happen.  He looks so tired, too, and I worry what we will do if something happens to him.  The life insurance we have been able t o afford will not be enough.  What will happen to my child if I ever have to put him back in public school while I go work?  and who is going to hire a woman in her mid fifties who has not worked in eleven years? (except the work I do on the farm?)  and the farm alone will not support us.

This is the first time in my life where the future scares the hell out of me.  Many of us do not have family support.  I don't my family acts as if my son's condition is no big deal, and they have never helped or even offered emotional support.  Emotional support would have helped!

I always hated being in debt, and until this happened we owed nothing except on our cars and on the farm.  I want back what we worked for.  I want my life back.  they are living in million dollar homes and driving Ferrari's off the brain cells they have destroyed.  I would give just aobut anythign to find a way for the public to see them for who they really are.  when I see their drug reps dressed in fine suits -- all I see are drug pushers and the only thing that separates them from the crack dealers downtown is the suit.

The worst is that his destroyed my faith and trust in so many people!  It is not easy for me to trust anyone anymore.  why should I when doctors don's see the truth and educators are throwing our children away?

W try to avoid prescription drugs here.  I hate to have to give those B______s a nickel.I am just as P'O'd as you.I keep thinking of us moms as " " and they are " Goliath. "   We just need to find their Achilles Heel.

Hang in there!  I have to believe God and goodness will prevail.

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There are several people who post their websites and ebay items as a permanent tag on all of their emails, such as discovery toys, avon, sock monkeys etc... I think it's brilliant! Nothing wrong with supporting members who are in the same boat. :-) We all hurt enough. As you can see, I have a tag,too..."Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."--Dr. Seuss Think Autism.Think Cure.

>My daughter is 13 years old and severely autistic, Lennox Gestault Epilpsy, Cognitively impaires and more.

>

>I am so tired and it is so unfair. The CDC poisoned our kids and changed our lives forever. EVERYTHING IS A STRUGGLE! The courts are relying on the findings of the CDC as to whether or not autism and mercury laced vaccines are related. The CDC did a thourough investigation of themselves and find they are not a fault! BIG SURPRISE HUH?? Also,members of the CDC, which ran the investigation, own large shares of stock in the vaccinations in question!!!

>

>This is Bullshit! I am so mad I could spit nails!!I do not think we should take this laying down! People need to Speak Up!!

>

>I thought the bumpersticker would get noticed and get people talking.

>

>Whew, that was a lot of mad emotions.

>

>I want people to stand up for themselves! This is not right!

>

>Cammy

>

>

>

>>

>> I posted a GREAT bumper sticker on ebay to tell off the CDC. (The CDC can Kiss

>> My @ss!)

>> It makes me mad as he11 that they got away with hurting our kids and I want to

>> let them know.

>> Thx,

>> Cammy

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[Guest guest]

OMG Haven! YOU do know EXACTLY how I feel.

I feel like I've been sentenced to never be enough and always be behind.

It's so hard to be positive when I'm being crushed every day on all fronts.

I want to rage and scream and make people SEE!

I'll pray for you and you pray for me.

We need to change Federal laws and get the support we NEED from our government!!

I don't believe in waiting with my hand out but This Is Impossible to handle

alone as a parent.

Thank you for sharing Haven, It sucks to be in Hell all alone!

Cammy

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> Cammy,

>

> We all feel the same way. I get so angry sometimes! I had the American

> Dream! All our dreams were coming true and everything was falling into

> place. All our hard work was finally paying off. We were not " rich " but we

> were comfortable and had savings and investments. Our farm wouldhave been

> paid off two years ago.

>

> Now we are broke and deeply in debt. Our son's immune system was damaged so

> he wound up in the emergency room about every two weeks for one thing or

> another from age fifteen months to just recently -- he is much better health

> wise on the AC Protocol.

>

> I get scared every tine bill paying time rolls around. I have to pay we can

> squeak by another two weeks. We lost my salary as who was going to watch my

> sick child while I worked full-time? It would have cost more than my

> salary.

>

> Then when he is better, I realize if I don't teach him, he willing to get an

> education, so I have to home school. Again, no pay, and we are squeaking by

> on one salary. We would go ahead and sell the farm, but it needs work.

> We've had to borrow against it to help our son, and we cannot even afford

> the repairs right now. We cannot afford to take a loss and would need

> enought o pay off the note and be able to have a down payment on something

> else. We've had to cash in our retirement. My husband can never retire.

>

> To us it appears that everything e worked for was for the drug companies and

> doctors. Then every time we have to go to a hospital or docotr we fear they

> will take it upon themselves to vacciante our son againt our will, even

> though he has a lifetime medical exemption. A doctor who knows my son's

> history STILL tried to talk me into giving H1 N1 when the scare was going

> around -- even though he has seen my son's exemption!!!! I said, " If you

> shoot me in the head first! " Now I am scared to go there.

>

> I am so disgusted I could spit nails! I think it will take tactics that

> were used in the sixties to bring about the end of the Vietnam War. It will

> take moms having sit ins on the Mall in Washington and moms willing to to

> refuse to get up until the President listens and some of us being carted off

> to jail for protesting. but I can tell you the networks are owned by the

> drug companies, so they wouldnot give us air time, so the public would never

> know. Then who is going to care for our children while we sit? The Supreme

> Court has taken away our right to sue -- that is the most disgusting part of

> all -- now all we have left is to sway public opinion. We have to get

> enough adults who have not been affected to see this for the tragedy it is

> and the public must demand compensation. The only other way would be to get

> enough people to refuse vaccination until this ruling is repealed and the

> public demands that those damaged be compensated.

>

> In this event, the government could declare a " national emergency " under the

> Patriot ACT and then all exemptions would be null and void and they would go

> and try to force vaccinate. I don't think we can get enough to stop

> vaccinating because most believe all the fear mongering.

>

> I am as sick of this situation as you are. I am tired from trying to make

> ends meet when I should be at a time in my life when things are much easier

> and my mortgage is long behind me, and my husband would be able to retire in

> ten years, but now it will never happen. He looks so tired, too, and I

> worry what we will do if something happens to him. The life insurance we

> have been able t o afford will not be enough. What will happen to my child

> if I ever have to put him back in public school while I go work? and who is

> going to hire a woman in her mid fifties who has not worked in eleven years?

> (except the work I do on the farm?) and the farm alone will not support us.

>

> This is the first time in my life where the future scares the hell out of

> me. Many of us do not have family support. I don't my family acts as if my

> son's condition is no big deal, and they have never helped or even offered

> emotional support. Emotional support would have helped!

>

> I always hated being in debt, and until this happened we owed nothing except

> on our cars and on the farm. I want back what we worked for. I want my

> life back. they are living in million dollar homes and driving Ferrari's

> off the brain cells they have destroyed. I would give just aobut anythign

> to find a way for the public to see them for who they really are. when I

> see their drug reps dressed in fine suits -- all I see are drug pushers and

> the only thing that separates them from the crack dealers downtown is the

> suit.

>

> The worst is that his destroyed my faith and trust in so many people! It is

> not easy for me to trust anyone anymore. why should I when doctors don's

> see the truth and educators are throwing our children away?

>

> W try to avoid prescription drugs here. I hate to have to give those

> B______s a nickel.

>

> I am just as P'O'd as you.

>

> I keep thinking of us moms as " " and they are " Goliath. " We just need

> to find their Achilles Heel.

>

> Hang in there! I have to believe God and goodness will prevail.

>

[Guest guest]

Who else cares about us but us??

Cammy

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> >> I posted a GREAT bumper sticker on ebay to tell off the CDC. (The CDC can

Kiss

> >> My @ss!)

> >> It makes me mad as he11 that they got away with hurting our kids and I want

to

> >> let them know.

> >> Thx,

> >> Cammy

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Who else cares about us but us??

Cammy

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> >> I posted a GREAT bumper sticker on ebay to tell off the CDC. (The CDC can

Kiss

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> >> My @ss!)

>

> >> It makes me mad as he11 that they got away with hurting our kids and I want

to

>

> >> let them know.

>

> >> Thx,

>

> >> Cammy

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I agree with all that has been said in this thread. It is the truth that it is the power and money of the drug companies that perpetuate this tragedy. The numbers of children with autism continue to go up, and it is so disturbing. Just recently, Tristan developed PANDAS from a strep infection. I was surprised to find that many in the medical field have researched and published findings that point to an autoimmune brain inflammation caused from antibodies to the strep strain. I hope this is step one in proving the etiology of vaccine damage and autism. They even say that any infection viral/bacterial can worsen the condition. The CDC doesn't support that hypothesis. I think it is because they see the same thing I do. It supports the vaccine/autism connection.

[Guest guest]

I just cannot understand how ANY parent can agree to vaccinate their child, knowing that the doctors and drug companies have been guaranteed immunity from litigation in the event of damage.  How can someone agree to such as this?  It boggles the mind!  If someone had told me this BEFORE I took my son in, I wouldn't have gone in.  Anyone who feels they need immunity from a drug is telling me the drug isn't safe.

People think it can't happen to them.  I wouldn't have vaccinated my child on April 7,2001, if the pediatrician hadn't lied about the ingredients, and I can't even sue her for lying to me!  Haven

[Guest guest]

I hope you have taken your son back to her and showed her what happened due to her negligence in listening to your concerns. Better yet go when it's really busy and let him tear the place up. When Matt was younger we were at a ENT. They have really neat chairs in there! Matt nearly disassembled the darn thing before he finally got to us. He was mad I told him he could try and make him better and perhaps then he'd stop destroying everything in sight. Or then there was the other time I was at Dr. Smarty Pants Neurologist. Turns out my son was so wild they brought interns in to see him. The intern turned to me after about 5 minutes and said " Is he always like this? " Noooo I said..... " This is a good day " .

Hang in there everyone there are too many of us to keep ignoring us. Just keep writing, emailing, telling your story....whatever it takes to be heard.

Trina

 

I just cannot understand how ANY parent can agree to vaccinate their child, knowing that the doctors and drug companies have been guaranteed immunity from litigation in the event of damage.  How can someone agree to such as this?  It boggles the mind!  If someone had told me this BEFORE I took my son in, I wouldn't have gone in.  Anyone who feels they need immunity from a drug is telling me the drug isn't safe.

People think it can't happen to them.  I wouldn't have vaccinated my child on April 7,2001, if the pediatrician hadn't lied about the ingredients, and I can't even sue her for lying to me!  Haven

[Guest guest]

Trina,No, I would have, but she split Texas shortly after Ethan was tentatively diagnosed at Callier.  but she knew because right after Callier told me it was autism, I called her.  I didn't know she had lied about the ingredients until then.  I was adamant he not get thimerosal and we went round and round.  I wouldn't let then give Prevnar becasue I thought that was the only one that had thimerosal in it.  But I was adamant, " No thimerosal containing vaccines, " and I asked her to tell me what was in the other shots and what were the risks of giving multiple shots, and she said, " Oh, just redness at the sight and slight fever  Give him Tylenol. "

Things changed immediately.  I called the following morning in a panic.  I won't retell that story here, but for MONTHS she put me off and would not give credit to my concerns.  He immediately lost speech.  she said, " Lots of boys lose speech at this age. "   Can you believe that?

For months I begged for help and she just kept telling me I needed to calm down and I was just an over anxious mother.  Then she was out when he got sick at age two, and that doctor said it was significant that he had stopped talking and she set us to Carlie's and they said autism.

When I called his pediatrician, I said, " I need to know the truth.  Was there thimerosal in the other shots you gave my son that day? "   And she LAUGHED this little laugh and said, " Well, yes. "   Then she proceeded to tell me that Callier's was wrong to say he had autism.  That made no sense to me.  It is what it is, but the truth was that it is toxic encephalopathy.

Anyway, shortly after this she moved away.  I did some research and found her in North Carolina.  Trina, would it be wrong to write to her and tell her what we have been through and how she failed my son.  I am a Christian and I mean this woman no harm (other than I wish I had the right to sue the hell out of her for lying).  I leave it to God to punish the wicked, but she has forgotten my son, and she destroyed all our lives.  she destroyed everything I worked so hard for, and now the remainder of our lives will always be a financial struggle.  I just want her to know what she did to my son.  I want to send a copy of the letter to the state board of medical examiners.  I want to send her a picture of my son so that she can never forget what she did.

I trusted her to stand between my son and the drug industry.  I trusted her to put my son's well being first, but she chose to further her own agenda.  She had NO right to lie to me about the ingredients in those shots!

I have often thought of writing, and at least then, she would know that the decision she made that day to lie caused immeasurable suffering.  Would it be wrong?Haven

[Guest guest]

Write a book. And she should hope she never lives next to one of us. I think a book of what people have told us and our daily struggles would be eye opening. "the lives we lead when you look away" TrinaSent from my iPad

Trina,No, I would have, but she split Texas shortly after Ethan was tentatively diagnosed at Callier. but she knew because right after Callier told me it was autism, I called her. I didn't know she had lied about the ingredients until then. I was adamant he not get thimerosal and we went round and round. I wouldn't let then give Prevnar becasue I thought that was the only one that had thimerosal in it. But I was adamant, "No thimerosal containing vaccines," and I asked her to tell me what was in the other shots and what were the risks of giving multiple shots, and she said, "Oh, just redness at the sight and slight fever Give him Tylenol."

Things changed immediately. I called the following morning in a panic. I won't retell that story here, but for MONTHS she put me off and would not give credit to my concerns. He immediately lost speech. she said, "Lots of boys lose speech at this age." Can you believe that?

For months I begged for help and she just kept telling me I needed to calm down and I was just an over anxious mother. Then she was out when he got sick at age two, and that doctor said it was significant that he had stopped talking and she set us to Carlie's and they said autism.

When I called his pediatrician, I said, "I need to know the truth. Was there thimerosal in the other shots you gave my son that day?" And she LAUGHED this little laugh and said, "Well, yes." Then she proceeded to tell me that Callier's was wrong to say he had autism. That made no sense to me. It is what it is, but the truth was that it is toxic encephalopathy.

Anyway, shortly after this she moved away. I did some research and found her in North Carolina. Trina, would it be wrong to write to her and tell her what we have been through and how she failed my son. I am a Christian and I mean this woman no harm (other than I wish I had the right to sue the hell out of her for lying). I leave it to God to punish the wicked, but she has forgotten my son, and she destroyed all our lives. she destroyed everything I worked so hard for, and now the remainder of our lives will always be a financial struggle. I just want her to know what she did to my son. I want to send a copy of the letter to the state board of medical examiners. I want to send her a picture of my son so that she can never forget what she did.

I trusted her to stand between my son and the drug industry. I trusted her to put my son's well being first, but she chose to further her own agenda. She had NO right to lie to me about the ingredients in those shots!

I have often thought of writing, and at least then, she would know that the decision she made that day to lie caused immeasurable suffering. Would it be wrong?Haven

[Guest guest]

Sunday @ 9:00 am, try to view LiveStream on Autism One website on Pandas and Autoimmunity,etc.

 

I agree with all that has been said in this thread.  It is the truth that it is the power and money of the drug companies that perpetuate this tragedy.  The numbers of children with autism continue to go up, and it is so disturbing.  Just recently, Tristan developed PANDAS from a strep infection.  I was surprised to find that many in the medical field have researched and published findings that point to an autoimmune brain inflammation caused from antibodies to the strep strain.  I hope this is step one in proving the etiology of vaccine damage and autism.  They even say that any infection viral/bacterial can worsen the condition.  The CDC doesn't support that hypothesis.  I think it is because they see the same thing I do.  It supports the vaccine/autism connection.

 

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,My son was bitten this evening by three mosquitoes.  Due to the damage to his immune system, in a matter of hours, we will be dealing with radiating staph form each bite site as his body cannot fight the bacteria the mosquitoes or any other insect inject into him when they bite.  Vaccine damage is just the little gift that just keeps on giving.

Trina, I am writing a book -- trying to squeeze it in in between all the home school stuff, housekeeping, bill paying etc... you know..but I have over fifty pages so far!  But I think when I wirte it I can't name the docotr specifically?  Chances are she can sue and win since we can't point the finger at any of those who poisoned our children.

I am just feeling really bummed tonight.  Sorry.  I get this way sometimes, and then I pick myself back up and forge ahead.Haven

[Guest guest]

I love your comments about turning your kid loose! I have one like that too!!

Now when we go in restaraunts or dr's offices they get us seated/in right away!!

My girl has NO impulse control!

I've had some parents email me about accepting things.

I'm 13 years in. I thought I had accepted things.

But it burns in my stomach when I know how restricted & impossible our lives

are.

I don't need the govt to concede their responsiblity but we need to force them

to provide the supports it takes to raise severely autistic children.

I don't breeze thru life; I count every penny; I juggle bills, I don't get

enough sleep, my child requires 24 hour assistance & on & on.

Cammy

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> > I just cannot understand how ANY parent can agree to vaccinate their child,

> > knowing that the doctors and drug companies have been guaranteed immunity

> > from litigation in the event of damage. How can someone agree to such as

> > this? It boggles the mind! If someone had told me this BEFORE I took my

> > son in, I wouldn't have gone in. Anyone who feels they need immunity from a

> > drug is telling me the drug isn't safe.

> >

> > People think it can't happen to them. I wouldn't have vaccinated my child

> > on April 7,2001, if the pediatrician hadn't lied about the ingredients, and

> > I can't even sue her for lying to me!

> >

> > Haven

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I hear you.  this was supposed to be the time of life when things got easier.  I had a therapist once say to me " things will get easier. "   BS.  come shovel some of this!And as if this isn't enough, since my father died it has been nothing but problems with the rest of the family.  They left me to do all the work, and no one is satisfied.  Everyone is just out for themselves.  it is a nightmare.  I just wish my dad were still here. so I can never count on anyone in my family to care for my son, they would just take whatever the farm would bring and dump him in an institution.  It scares me to death what is going to happen to him if something happens to me.

I DO want back all the money I had worked hard to save.  I want retirement money back.  I don't know what is going to happen to us in twenty years.  I want them to give us back what this cost us so at least we can start over.

Today I was wondering why I ever bothered to go to college or get up and go to work every day for fifteen years.  I pay my tazes on time.  I've only everhad one ticket, and I go vote, but for what?  They sell us out to big business anyway.  Democracy only works until " they " have something of yours they want, and then theyjust come and take it.  (our family farm is being Eminent domained by a foreign oil company " TransCanada " to pu a toxic tar sands pipeline right through the middle of a forest, which they will destroy.  They are going to destroy over a thousand trees.

My father worked his whole life to preserve that land.  The pipeline will leak, and the company expects the landowners to sign that they will not sue for damages.  We are getting screwed left and right.  I used to think I could retire down there and that it is not polluted, but it soon will be, and so there is just no place you can go to be truly " free " and enjoy the fruits of your labor.  As soon as you think you can, then a big company comes along, and our government protects THEM and not us.

All we get to do is keep putting one foot in front of the other, take care of our children, pray like hell, and try to hang on.  I am just feeling very disgusted tonight.

[Guest guest]

I think she can only sue if what you write is not true. I would check with a

lawyer who has experience in this area.Course, anybody can sue for anything, and

it does not mean they have a case. Unfortunately, you still have to defend

yourself. I often think of the young female doctor who injected my son. I never

knew about the ingredients in vaccines. But they lie and tell you they are

mandatory, when they are not ( exemptions allowed in Texas) I did refuse the

" new " rotavirus vaccine ( first one - before they admitted babies were dying)

because it was new and not " required " . I also insisted upon the killed polio vs

live since I had a " choice " . After Will lost speech, she just kept telling us

that boys talk later and not to worry ( we did!). Later, when I got the records,

I discovered she had written speech delay at multiple visits, but never

referrred us for testing or therapy, which might have helped him when school

rolled around. Fortunately, my mommy instincts took over when he was about three

and we were dealing with extreme hyperactivity. I started doing my own research

and figured out food additives were making that worse. We removed those and

started workign with a nutrtionist who specialized in ADHD and Autism kids. When

he was 9, we discovered he also had mito dysfucntion and the ONLY treatment is

nutritional therapy. I shudder to think how much worse his health would be if I

had not started nutritional therapy when I did.

>

> ,

>

> My son was bitten this evening by three mosquitoes. Due to the damage to

> his immune system, in a matter of hours, we will be dealing with radiating

> staph form each bite site as his body cannot fight the bacteria the

> mosquitoes or any other insect inject into him when they bite. Vaccine

> damage is just the little gift that just keeps on giving.

>

> Trina, I am writing a book -- trying to squeeze it in in between all the

> home school stuff, housekeeping, bill paying etc... you know..but I have

> over fifty pages so far! But I think when I wirte it I can't name the

> docotr specifically? Chances are she can sue and win since we can't point

> the finger at any of those who poisoned our children.

>

> I am just feeling really bummed tonight. Sorry. I get this way sometimes,

> and then I pick myself back up and forge ahead.

>

> Haven

>

[Guest guest]

Don't suppose your female pedi was on Walnut Hill Lane in Dallas?  It is just they sound so similar, and over the years I have run into two other mothers whose children regressed after going to this practice and getting shots.  I also ran into several families whose children regressed after getting the same lot number of DTaP that my son got.

Our pedi wouldn't report my son's reaction, and would never write down my concerns, but it is clear in the record that prior to that date he was rarely sick, but after it, he was sick all the time.Haven

[Guest guest]

>I hope you have taken your son back to her and showed her what happened dueto her negligence in listening to your concerns. <

The Ped who gave Tristan the many vaccines which harmed him, certainly didn't acknowledge the vaccines were in any way responsible. He told us we would have to find another doctor because he didn't know anything about autism. After that Tristan was a patient of our family doctor who we loved, and who passed away in 2007. They had a good relationship and Dr. Parchuri wrote medical exemptions for him, but they were limited. He would say "at this time" but he was respecting our wishes and he really cared. Since then a wonderful female doctor who was at the practice for a short time wrote, what we hope is a permanent exemption from his vaccine boosters. She has since moved on to Austin and has a more women issues oriented practice. She practices what she calls functional medicine.

C.

[Guest guest]

Haven,

I appreciate your candor and I am sure that many of us feel exactly as you do. I do most of the time. You mentioned that if someone had told you about vaccines.....I did tell everyone I know, young and old. These were family and friends who had known me through church and the Christian school our children attended. No one listened. I couldn't believe the disrespect I was shown, still am, when I mention vaccines. It brings out an ugly side to people. They want to trust the medical profession of which I am not a part. They say the Tristan is the only child they know of that was harmed by vaccines, IF he really was they imply. You might have been one of the few who would listen to that information, but my experience is most don't.

C.

[Guest guest]

Dear ,I would have, but I was duped years ago.  In 1987 I was talked into taking a flu shot.  I had never taken one before, but I was teaching in East Dallas in what they called " a high risk environment. "   So I gave in and took the shot.

Within a couple of hours I became deathly ill.  I ran a high fever, was sick at both ends, and became extremely weak.  I could not walk.  My boyfriend at that time had to literally carry me into the emergency room.  by that time, I had turned completely yellow from head to toe.

I distinctly remember the first words out of the attendant's mouth was, " Gee, is she normally this yellow? "   My boryfriend told them I had just received a flu shot just hours before and that before that I was fine.  Of course they said, " It couldn't be the shot. "   But when he said that, they moved me to the farthest back room.  They kept telling him that it was just coincidence, and that is what they told me too. 

Other than allergies, I was never prone to getting sick.  I hadn't had anything like the flu since I was about eight years old.  I was twenty-seven at the time.  They gave me fluids and sent me back home with him.  My boyfriend's family took care of me.  I remember during the night I had to scoot to the bathroom on my bumm as I could not stand.  My fever was at 104 or higher at times.  I had to stop halfway from being so weak, and I had tears falling as I thought for the first time in my life, " I could die from this. "

It took me a long time to feel okay again, but I developed fatigue that gets hold of me sometimes so badly.  I started having breast problems and later that year had to have a biopsy.  My thyroid started to go.  No one ever told me anything about having the right to report and adverse event.

I had never in my life been that sick and I never have been that sick again.But doctors kept telling me it had been a fluke and stupid me believed them.  Even before Ethan was vaccinated, I retold my story and they sot it down. 

After Ethan was born they wanted to vaccinate me again for rubella as they said I had no titers to it.  I refused.  God that doc was angry!  Later I found out that I have an allele inwhich no matter how many time they vaccinate me, I am just not going to hold titers to rubella.  I also found out that other mothers who have this allele later when on to have children who regressed after vaccination.  I believe Dr. McCandless's daughter is one of these.  I think I read that in her book.

But still I let her talk me into vaccinating my son, though i was adamant he not get thimerosal.  I never even considered she would lie to further her own agenda.I jsut feel stupid.  if I had known that the first meeting of DAN happened in Dallas in 2001.  If I had known of the Simpsonwood meeting.  If even one mom had come up to me and said " Beware, "   I would have high tailed it to the Internet and i would have never vaccinated my son, and I know in every fiber of my being that he would have then become who GOD had meant him to be.

He is doing well and has come a long way, but he is now eleven, and I don't know how far he can go.  We shoot for the stars, and if we only wind up on the moon.....but I will never give up.The shots also messed up Ethan's ability to regulate copper in his body.  By the time we found out, over a year had gone by, and his levels were so bad they thought he might have 's disease.  We got that ruled out, but for months he probably had high copper, and this can cause permanent brain damage.

He lost all speech immediately following the shots, and it has taken a lot of work to get speech back.  He got receptive first, then expressive, and reciprocal speech did not emerge until two years ago.I guess what I see know is an eleven year old boy who has a lot of catching up to do.  he talks, acts, and feels like a six year old, but that is okay.

He was very sick all the time after the shots.  he had two ruptured ear drums.  He has had pneumonia eight times and countless bouts of bronchitis.  They told me he has asthma and he was on a lot of steroids over the years and these made him gain a lot of weight.

If an insect would bite him, he would get staph that would spread quickly.  The bite site could be the size of a dime, and within two  hours then be the size of a grapefruit and all inflamed.  If he got six bites, then it was the same at each bite.  There is so much more he has had to deal with medically.  The chronic constipation stretched his colon, and on x-ray, a portion is frighteningly large.

But last January we started to do AC protocol, and he has been relatively healthy.  He has not needed any steroids.  he has only needed his rescue inhaler occasionally.  He was bitten by mosquitoes last night, and so far we do not see staph.  I am guardedly optimistic.  This protocol has helped him more than any other, so we are going to stick with it.

I try to tell people, too.  I do not tell them what to do, but I tell them what happened to my son.  I tell them about their true rights not to vaccinate.  I tell them to get educated, and I caution them that if anything goes wrong they will be on their own.  This wrecks families financially.

Ethan just received his three wheeled bicycle today from an organization.  he has never learned to ride a bik.  he got all anxious at first (he always does when learning new things, but he is getting the hang of it already.  Maybe someday he will graduate up to a two wheeled bike!

What part of the state are you in?  We are south of Dallas.  We had a good DO at one time who retired.  I have yet to find anyone as good as she.  She was intent on being a healer.How is Tristan doing overall?

Haven

[Guest guest]

Is that dr womack?Sent from my iPad

>I hope you have taken your son back to her and showed her what happened dueto her negligence in listening to your concerns. <

The Ped who gave Tristan the many vaccines which harmed him, certainly didn't acknowledge the vaccines were in any way responsible. He told us we would have to find another doctor because he didn't know anything about autism. After that Tristan was a patient of our family doctor who we loved, and who passed away in 2007. They had a good relationship and Dr. Parchuri wrote medical exemptions for him, but they were limited. He would say "at this time" but he was respecting our wishes and he really cared. Since then a wonderful female doctor who was at the practice for a short time wrote, what we hope is a permanent exemption from his vaccine boosters. She has since moved on to Austin and has a more women issues oriented practice. She practices what she calls functional medicine.

C.

[Guest guest]

Haven, consider getting cultured foods into your son.This will re-establish his

gut flora, and stimulate his Th1 immune function. If you don't want to make

cultured vegetables or the young coconut water kefir, you can go onto BED

website and order INNERGY. I love this drink the most. Best bet though is to

make cultured vegetables and load him with these everyday. My kids still eat at

least 1/2 cup a day. Going on 6 years! I'm dumping VSL#3 into my kids this

summer too

>

> ,

>

> My son was bitten this evening by three mosquitoes. Due to the damage to

> his immune system, in a matter of hours, we will be dealing with radiating

> staph form each bite site as his body cannot fight the bacteria the

> mosquitoes or any other insect inject into him when they bite. Vaccine

> damage is just the little gift that just keeps on giving.

>

> Trina, I am writing a book -- trying to squeeze it in in between all the

> home school stuff, housekeeping, bill paying etc... you know..but I have

> over fifty pages so far! But I think when I wirte it I can't name the

> docotr specifically? Chances are she can sue and win since we can't point

> the finger at any of those who poisoned our children.

>

> I am just feeling really bummed tonight. Sorry. I get this way sometimes,

> and then I pick myself back up and forge ahead.

>

> Haven

>

[Guest guest]

,Your advice has always intrigued me, and then I get so busy I forget to get it going.  this summer can be the perfect time.  I am finally getting a " break. "   I am laughing as I say this.  Everything has just gone to hell since I started home schooling house and farm wise, but this week I am planning on going room to room and getting rid of clutter.  I need to get organized!

We weren't sure we were going to be able to home school, and so it started rather abruptly, and I feel like I have been playing catch up ever since.  Between prepareing lessons, teaching, going to therapies and tutoring, cooking ethan's meals and all the other stuff we wives and moms do...

On top of that a couple of years ago before I had to start taking care of my mother, I was teaching riding lessons part time, and we needed that extra money.  that went away due to the added mom duties.  She has moved now, so I am supposed to start teaching again in June.  I have a lot to do around the farm too.  it is going to be a busy week.  But I know if I can catch up and clutter down and have a sense of organization, this next year is going to go better.

I found 100% coconut water in cans at WF.  Can i use this to make the Kefir?  Do I go on the BE website to learn how to culture the veggies?  I hope I can culture squash because we are going to have a bumper crop of those.  Does it do any good to culture potatoes?  bumper crop of those too.  The only other things I was able to get in the garden are lettuce and tomatoes.  But we buy organic veggies at WF.  I used to never be able to get veggies into him, but this past year he has really taken off and likes spinach, Brussels sprouts, green beans, peas, cauliflower.  He broke out in hives the last time he got broccoli so I am leery of that.

I do believe you that diet plays a consummate role in healing our children.I have seen in these last five months an absolute and noticeable improvement in his immune system with the AC Protocol (using ALA only).  After a long plateau, I know we are on the right track again, so I want to move the diet forward to an even healthier level.

What meats to you use?  We buy organic, but sometimes I think we should wean off beef and pork and stick with chicken, turkey, and lamb.Thanks for not giving up on me .Haven

[Guest guest]

Don't be silly Haven, I don't judge you...you are judging yourself. You have

always done your best and your best has been awesome. So stop explaining

everything. I think it's awesome that you are so open. And I just keep

plugging away here too. Honestly I'm almost always " too full " for the next

step. But year by year I keep adding steps that help my kids. It's nice to

revisit and get a friendly reminder on things that you've been meaning to try.

I use cabbage, beets, carrots, and garlic to make my blend.

I suppose you can use coconut water in cans, but fresh is best. I drain it from

a fresh coconut. I don't have experience with boxed or canned water. I cut

the flat bottom off of the young thai coconut, then knock a screw driver into

two of the three revealed holes.

As for cvs, basically you shred all the vegetables while your culture sits in

filtered water with a sugar to get it going. I use raw local honey as my feeder.

Then you toss the " brine " into the veggies using tongs. Then shove it all into

glass jars. I get mine from IKEA. I let them sit 4-7 days. I make several

liters at a time. I make them about every 6 weeks.

Many used to think that we needed to remove gluten and casein and now more

recently soy because the kids were allergic or sensitive. But the issue of

dietary changes and autism are deeper than this. The children have infections

and a poor functioning immune system. So diet is exactly the place to start.

It's the most challenging because the kids are like addicts and will do anything

for their fix.

Basically using body ecology diet you create an inner ecosystem where the

infections can no longer thrive. Along with biomed or homeopathy you bring

down infections/strengthen the immune system.

in this video is a mommy friend of mine. We recovered our kids together.

>

> ,

>

> Your advice has always intrigued me, and then I get so busy I forget to get

> it going. this summer can be the perfect time. I am finally getting a

> " break. " I am laughing as I say this. Everything has just gone to hell

> since I started home schooling house and farm wise, but this week I am

> planning on going room to room and getting rid of clutter. I need to get

> organized!

>

> We weren't sure we were going to be able to home school, and so it started

> rather abruptly, and I feel like I have been playing catch up ever since.

> Between prepareing lessons, teaching, going to therapies and tutoring,

> cooking ethan's meals and all the other stuff we wives and moms do...

>

> On top of that a couple of years ago before I had to start taking care of my

> mother, I was teaching riding lessons part time, and we needed that extra

> money. that went away due to the added mom duties. She has moved now, so I

> am supposed to start teaching again in June. I have a lot to do around the

> farm too. it is going to be a busy week. But I know if I can catch up and

> clutter down and have a sense of organization, this next year is going to go

> better.

>

> I found 100% coconut water in cans at WF. Can i use this to make the

> Kefir? Do I go on the BE website to learn how to culture the veggies? I

> hope I can culture squash because we are going to have a bumper crop of

> those. Does it do any good to culture potatoes? bumper crop of those too.

> The only other things I was able to get in the garden are lettuce and

> tomatoes. But we buy organic veggies at WF. I used to never be able to get

> veggies into him, but this past year he has really taken off and likes

> spinach, Brussels sprouts, green beans, peas, cauliflower. He broke out in

> hives the last time he got broccoli so I am leery of that.

>

> I do believe you that diet plays a consummate role in healing our children.

> I have seen in these last five months an absolute and noticeable improvement

> in his immune system with the AC Protocol (using ALA only). After a long

> plateau, I know we are on the right track again, so I want to move the diet

> forward to an even healthier level.

>

> What meats to you use? We buy organic, but sometimes I think we should wean

> off beef and pork and stick with chicken, turkey, and lamb.

>

> Thanks for not giving up on me .

>

> Haven

>