Re: Re: work on the work from gitoros but as a reply for for...

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hi wayne,

you said " I also join with the others in stressting that The Work will not

change anything. "

and i must add that the title of the book is " Loving What Is; Four Questions

That Can Change Your Life " .

this is my juvenile little game of splitting hairs, by the way. just

playing Devil's Advocate. just for the hell of it ; ) thank you for your

reply to

me.

jeremy

In a message dated 10/24/2006 7:18:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

satsangoz@... writes:

Hi ,

When I first started The Work I found that it do not shift much at all. The

change came when I got with someone else who asked me the questions and I had

to give answers. At that point I realised that my thinking was that just

about everything I said out aloud, wrote and thought was not true.

After that I decided to use The Work for everything I wrote in inquiry.

Shortly after a bout of intensive inquiry the truth seemed natural and my

suffering stopped. My life didn't change a lot but I had new ideas, which did

not

involve suffering, about what to do next.

I also join with the others in stressting that The Work will not change

anything.

There's a woman in Australia who worked with in the early years and

she told me that spent three years ijnquiring about her mother before she

got relief.

I hope all that helps.

Wayne

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From: gitoros <_gitoros@..._ (mailto:gitoros@...) >

To: _Loving-what-Loving-what-<WBLov_ (mailto:Loving-what-is )

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:31:37 PM

Subject: [Loving-what-Subject: [Loving-what-<WBR>i

Hi ,

i haven't read all the postings regarding your topics. So maybe this

is just a repetition.

I just share the thoughts which moved through me (while getting a

taste of your topics):

The work is a meditation.

Do you ask with your mind and let the heart respond?

Do you do it like a mental exercise?

Do you patiently wait till the heart responds?

And another thought moved through me.

The work is not meant to " fix " anything.

It is there for: if you want to know your truth.

And the next thing was:

Some topics need more than one work.

lr

> i am angry and disappointed in The Work because it " lies " to me. it

makes

> me feel worse, and i can't see through my thoughts. it makes me feel

> defective and " left out " of the happiness it promises. The Work

should work!

>

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those 4 questions changed my life.

However, the title is 4 questions THAT CAN change your life....not, THAT WILL

Vivian

[Loving-what-<WBR>i

Hi ,

i haven't read all the postings regarding your topics. So maybe this

is just a repetition.

I just share the thoughts which moved through me (while getting a

taste of your topics):

The work is a meditation.

Do you ask with your mind and let the heart respond?

Do you do it like a mental exercise?

Do you patiently wait till the heart responds?

And another thought moved through me.

The work is not meant to " fix " anything.

It is there for: if you want to know your truth.

And the next thing was:

Some topics need more than one work.

lr

> i am angry and disappointed in The Work because it " lies " to me. it

makes

> me feel worse, and i can't see through my thoughts. it makes me feel

> defective and " left out " of the happiness it promises. The Work

should work!

>

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