Re: Aetna Insurance Panel Replies

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,I do believe if you root around on Aetna's website they categorize art therapy as an experimental approach and thus do not reimburse art therapy.Frustrating, though perhaps there is room to convince them that as LCATs we are licensed psychotherapists.GailOn Jun 19, 2012, at 10:29 AM, " Prudente, LCAT, RDT" wrote:

Thank you for the responses. If NYCCAT or any other CAT organization is working to advocate for LCAT's to be credentialed by insurance companies please note this the response from Aetna. I hope that my experience can help the CAT community to advocate for more recognition as a qualified mental health care providers.

Unlike the people who have responded on the list serve, I did not received an email but a direct phone call. The Aetna representative asked called my Institute asking if I worked under any other license since they cannot credential me under the LCAT. I returned the representatives phone call and was told the same thing and, "We've been going through this a lot recently." When I pressed the Aetna representative on why they do not credential the LCAT she did not know since she was not in the credentialing department. I asked to speak to someone else in the credentialing department and was told, "There is no point, we do not credential your license." I pressed her for further contact information and was told, "I will do some internal research and get back to you."

Suffice to say, I am frustrated and do not expect a phone call back. Thank you for the responses and if anyone has any other insight it is much appreciated. It feels that despite the licensing of our profession/ "legitimizing" we are still not recognized as qualified mental health care providers.

Sincerely, Prudente, LCAT, RDT -- Prudente, LCAT, RDT Licensed Creative Arts Therapist Registered Drama Therapist

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This sounds like it needs numbers and a letter to Aetna from NYCCAT. Perhaps someone on the board could construct a letter and send it out for signatures. They need to know that we are a legitimate profession with a license clinically comparable to the LMFT and LCSW. In fact, they should WANT us, since most of us charge less than LCSW's (from what I've surveyed). If anyone on the NYCCAT board is willing to take this up, (since Hamilton could also back us...maybe?) this could create a huge change in our work as private practitioners.Board? Are you there? Tantia, MS,BC-DMT,

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,I do believe if you root around on Aetna's website they categorize art therapy as an experimental approach and thus do not reimburse art therapy.Frustrating, though perhaps there is room to convince them that as LCATs we are licensed psychotherapists.GailOn Jun 19, 2012, at 10:29 AM, " Prudente, LCAT, RDT" wrote:

Thank you for the responses. If NYCCAT or any other CAT organization is working to advocate for LCAT's to be credentialed by insurance companies please note this the response from Aetna. I hope that my experience can help the CAT community to advocate for more recognition as a qualified mental health care providers.

Unlike the people who have responded on the list serve, I did not received an email but a direct phone call. The Aetna representative asked called my Institute asking if I worked under any other license since they cannot credential me under the LCAT. I returned the representatives phone call and was told the same thing and, "We've been going through this a lot recently." When I pressed the Aetna representative on why they do not credential the LCAT she did not know since she was not in the credentialing department. I asked to speak to someone else in the credentialing department and was told, "There is no point, we do not credential your license." I pressed her for further contact information and was told, "I will do some internal research and get back to you."

Suffice to say, I am frustrated and do not expect a phone call back. Thank you for the responses and if anyone has any other insight it is much appreciated. It feels that despite the licensing of our profession/ "legitimizing" we are still not recognized as qualified mental health care providers.

Sincerely, Prudente, LCAT, RDT -- Prudente, LCAT, RDT Licensed Creative Arts Therapist Registered Drama Therapist

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Jenn, I don't think there is a NYCCAT Board any longer. Debbie Re: Aetna Insurance Panel Replies

,I do believe if you root around on Aetna's website they categorize art therapy as an experimental approach and thus do not reimburse art therapy.Frustrating, though perhaps there is room to convince them that as LCATs we are licensed psychotherapists.GailOn Jun 19, 2012, at 10:29 AM, " Prudente, LCAT, RDT" wrote:

Thank you for the responses. If NYCCAT or any other CAT organization is working to advocate for LCAT's to be credentialed by insurance companies please note this the response from Aetna. I hope that my experience can help the CAT community to advocate for more recognition as a qualified mental health care providers.

Unlike the people who have responded on the list serve, I did not received an email but a direct phone call. The Aetna representative asked called my Institute asking if I worked under any other license since they cannot credential me under the LCAT. I returned the representatives phone call and was told the same thing and, "We've been going through this a lot recently." When I pressed the Aetna representative on why they do not credential the LCAT she did not know since she was not in the credentialing department. I asked to speak to someone else in the credentialing department and was told, "There is no point, we do not credential your license." I pressed her for further contact information and was told, "I will do some internal research and get back to you."

Suffice to say, I am frustrated and do not expect a phone call back. Thank you for the responses and if anyone has any other insight it is much appreciated. It feels that despite the licensing of our profession/ "legitimizing" we are still not recognized as qualified mental health care providers.

Sincerely, Prudente, LCAT, RDT -- Prudente, LCAT, RDT Licensed Creative Arts Therapist Registered Drama Therapist

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Hi and all,From what I am aware of at this point, the NYCCAT board is not currently an active entity. A task force, independently run where professionals such as those in private practice who are personally motivated may be the best way to go and is formed based on a collective need of those who find this an important avenue for their ability to provide services. Although I have yet to go through the process, I believe there are already LCATs who have been accepted to be on Aetna's panel. I have also heard that submitting claims as an out-of-network provider is also a possibility.nne

Jenn, I don't think there is a NYCCAT Board any longer. Debbie Re: Aetna Insurance Panel Replies

,I do believe if you root around on Aetna's website they categorize art therapy as an experimental approach and thus do not reimburse art therapy.Frustrating, though perhaps there is room to convince them that as LCATs we are licensed psychotherapists.GailOn Jun 19, 2012, at 10:29 AM, " Prudente, LCAT, RDT" wrote:

Thank you for the responses. If NYCCAT or any other CAT organization is working to advocate for LCAT's to be credentialed by insurance companies please note this the response from Aetna. I hope that my experience can help the CAT community to advocate for more recognition as a qualified mental health care providers.

Unlike the people who have responded on the list serve, I did not received an email but a direct phone call. The Aetna representative asked called my Institute asking if I worked under any other license since they cannot credential me under the LCAT. I returned the representatives phone call and was told the same thing and, "We've been going through this a lot recently." When I pressed the Aetna representative on why they do not credential the LCAT she did not know since she was not in the credentialing department. I asked to speak to someone else in the credentialing department and was told, "There is no point, we do not credential your license." I pressed her for further contact information and was told, "I will do some internal research and get back to you."

Suffice to say, I am frustrated and do not expect a phone call back. Thank you for the responses and if anyone has any other insight it is much appreciated. It feels that despite the licensing of our profession/ "legitimizing" we are still not recognized as qualified mental health care providers.

Sincerely, Prudente, LCAT, RDT -- Prudente, LCAT, RDT Licensed Creative Arts Therapist Registered Drama Therapist

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